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British guys, how much trouble is starmer in?

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1 hour ago, josephbloggs said:


You are supposed to include a reputable source when you copy and paste stuff. Anyway I have no interest in discussing adult topics with you as you are simply incapable.

"You worship Charles who sniffs bike seats and married a horse. The Yanks saved your ass from Hitler. You can't play sport to save yourselves."

Run along, child.

Before I go I'll leave you with this, a certified article with facts from the independent ONS on how homicides, violent crime and knife crime are down significantly in the last year, with homicides at their lowest level since records began:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/jan/29/homicides-england-wales-lowest-level-since-records-began

You already did discuss it with me. Your childish buddies are thumbs down champs. You can talk to them. You all act 10yo to me.

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  • Or much more discerning about what is propaganda. But continue with your anti Trump diatribes, its a British tradition to dislike your boss or your betters

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1 hour ago, RayC said:

Hardly. The ''Left" are no fans of Starmer.

The "Left" loathe Starmer, and if he's forced out it will be mainly down to them.

1 hour ago, RayC said:

Hardly. The ''Left" are no fans of Starmer.

Keir Starmer's unpopularity stems from a combination of broken promises, perceived hypocrisy, and unpopular policy decisions shortly after taking office. He ran on a platform of integrity and change after 14 years of Conservative rule, but many voters feel he has failed to deliver meaningful improvements and instead implemented austerity-like measures, including cutting the winter fuel allowance and raising taxes.

Perceived dishonesty is a major factor. Starmer promised not to raise taxes on working people, yet introduced tax increases, including on National Insurance and businesses. He also backtracked on pledges like scrapping tuition fees and renationalizing key services. Critics accuse him of hypocrisy on sleaze, having condemned Conservative ethics while accepting expensive gifts and favors from donors like Lord Alli.

Policy reversals on migration and foreign affairs have further damaged his credibility. Once a defender of migrant rights, Starmer now uses rhetoric compared to Enoch Powell, framing migration as a problem. His government continues arms sales to Israel despite pledges for a rights-based foreign policy, alienating progressive voters

I love Mr Starmer a beautiful man who wants diversity, multiculturalism and transexualism to be "modernised "

The new police recruits will have some Transexuals recruited which adds Britain as a beautiful country under Starmer

In glad all those old churches are being turned into prayer halls

I also supported the Scottish prime Minister before , forget his name ,Mohammed someone a truly beautiful man with great values who purchased old churches and cemetery and turn them into prayer halls

49 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Keir Starmer's unpopularity stems from a combination of broken promises, perceived hypocrisy, and unpopular policy decisions shortly after taking office. He ran on a platform of integrity and change after 14 years of Conservative rule, but many voters feel he has failed to deliver meaningful improvements and instead implemented austerity-like measures, including cutting the winter fuel allowance and raising taxes.

Perceived dishonesty is a major factor. Starmer promised not to raise taxes on working people, yet introduced tax increases, including on National Insurance and businesses. He also backtracked on pledges like scrapping tuition fees and renationalizing key services. Critics accuse him of hypocrisy on sleaze, having condemned Conservative ethics while accepting expensive gifts and favors from donors like Lord Alli.

Policy reversals on migration and foreign affairs have further damaged his credibility. Once a defender of migrant rights, Starmer now uses rhetoric compared to Enoch Powell, framing migration as a problem. His government continues arms sales to Israel despite pledges for a rights-based foreign policy, alienating progressive voters

None of which has any bearing on your claim that, it is "a bitter pill for the left" that Starmer is (allegedly) "more hated than Trump by a mile".

As I said previously, the "Left" do not like Starmer.

58 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

The "Left" loathe Starmer, and if he's forced out it will be mainly down to them.

Labour doesn't have an equivalent to the 1922 Committee, so doesn't have a mechanism for backbenchers to force a change in leadership. Essentially, they have to ask the Party Membership for permission. Any challenger has to have the support of 20% of Labour MPs to trigger a contest. The Leader is automatically on the ballot which goes to the Unions and membership. The MPs themselves have little say.

The Tory system is better. MPs can force a PM out through a secret ballot, then elect a new leader. The Tory PM is PM at the pleasure of MPs (ie. he or she has to have the confidence of the Westminster MPs, who are elected by the people). The Labour PM is at the pleasure of the Labour Membership, not at the people who elected the MPs. Hence the Tories will also refer to the PM as First Among Equals (in cabinet). The last time Labour threw out one of its own leaders when PM was 1931 and Ramsey MacDonald, when the Parliamentary party opposed his cuts to the dole. MacDonald resigned as Leader, but formed a new National Government with the Liberals and Tories.

19 minutes ago, RayC said:

None of which has any bearing on your claim that, it is "a bitter pill for the left" that Starmer is (allegedly) "more hated than Trump by a mile".

As I said previously, the "Left" do not like Starmer.

Don't the left need a hero?

2 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

Keir Starmer's unpopularity stems from a combination of broken promises, perceived hypocrisy, and unpopular policy decisions shortly after taking office. He ran on a platform of integrity and change after 14 years of Conservative rule, but many voters feel he has failed to deliver meaningful improvements and instead implemented austerity-like measures, including cutting the winter fuel allowance and raising taxes.

Perceived dishonesty is a major factor. Starmer promised not to raise taxes on working people, yet introduced tax increases, including on National Insurance and businesses. He also backtracked on pledges like scrapping tuition fees and renationalizing key services. Critics accuse him of hypocrisy on sleaze, having condemned Conservative ethics while accepting expensive gifts and favors from donors like Lord Alli.

Policy reversals on migration and foreign affairs have further damaged his credibility. Once a defender of migrant rights, Starmer now uses rhetoric compared to Enoch Powell, framing migration as a problem. His government continues arms sales to Israel despite pledges for a rights-based foreign policy, alienating progressive voters


More unattributed copy and paste.

1 hour ago, Harrisfan said:

Don't the left need a hero?

Maybe but Starmer isn't and never was that man.

33 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:


More unattributed copy and paste.

Dont read it then. Only opinions.

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4 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

The UK crime rate, based on data from November 2025, is 74 crimes per 1,000 people across England, Wales, and Northern Ireland (excluding Scotland). This represents a 4.1% increase compared to the same period in 2024.

I have no idea where you found those figures but the latest report from the UK Office for National Statistics (ONS) show crime rates in England and Wales are falling, see link below. Homicide rates fell 7%, knife crime fell by 9%, similarly firearms offences by 9%. Crime rates for other offences remained much the same.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/bulletins/crimeinenglandandwales/yearendingseptember2025

17 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Dont read it then. Only opinions.


It's not your own opinion though is it, it is copy and pasted from a response to a Google AI prompt. I am not here to have a debate with Google.

Feel free to express opinions in your own words if you want to join in. Or if you are using other people's words please cite the source.

Just now, Stocky said:

I have no idea where you found those figures but the latest report from the UK Office for National Statistics (ONS) show crime rates in England and Wales are falling, see link below. Homicide rates fell 7%, knife crime fell by 9%, similarly firearms offences by 9%. Crime rates for other offences remained much the same.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/bulletins/crimeinenglandandwales/yearendingseptember2025

Exactly, that's why he never posts his sources.

Just now, josephbloggs said:


It's not your own opinion though is it, it is copy and pasted from a response to a Google AI prompt. I am not here to have a debate with Google.

Feel free to express opinions in your own words if you want to join in.

Stop reading it then.

10 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

Starmer is more hated than Trump by a mile. That's a bitter pill for the left.

It's just a matter of time before Mr. Starmer is out as Prime Minister.

His top aide just quit over the Mandelson /Epstein Scandal.

"Starmer is facing what is widely seen as the gravest crisis of his 18 months in power over his decision to send Mandelson to Washington in 2024, after files revealed the depth of the Labour veteran’s relationship with the late sex offender Epstein".

https://nypost.com/2026/02/08/world-news/uk-pm-starmers-top-aide-quits-over-mandelson-epstein-scandal/?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_campaign=nypost&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter#Echobox=1770572235

17 hours ago, RayC said:

One thing that hasn't changed from the last millennium - and if we have the same system of government, won't change in the next millennium - is that MPs of the governing party will not vote in favour of an opposition motion of 'No confidence' in their own government (party). This is as close to a political fact as anything.

Given this, and the actual fact that this government has a current Commons majority of 168, a motion of 'No confidence' has no chance of succeeding. A Labour loss in the forthcoming by-election, which reduces the majority by one, will make no practical difference; a vote of 'No confidence' will still not succeed.

One other fact is as @brewsterbudgen says, "The only thing (this Labour government) "have to" do, is call an election before their 5-year term is up in 2029" i.e. it is up to this government when it calls an election in the next +/-3 years and no one else.

It really is as simply as that

UK is in decline, in a state it has never been befor. Daily protests, mass stabbings and crime, homelessness, rising taxes, free speech silenced, dictorial nazi police force, sleaze and lies everyday and lets not forget, that majority they have; was won in one of the lowest voter turnouts in history. I have noticed many Labour supporters keep on quoting exactly the same as you, maybe because it's all they can hold on to. Time will tell

39 minutes ago, baansgr said:

UK is in decline, in a state it has never been befor. Daily protests, mass stabbings and crime, homelessness, rising taxes, free speech silenced, dictorial nazi police force, sleaze and lies everyday and lets not forget, that majority they have; was won in one of the lowest voter turnouts in history. I have noticed many Labour supporters keep on quoting exactly the same as you, maybe because it's all they can hold on to. Time will tell

The irony of the Yanks saving them from Hitler invading to being invaded by crims and muslims.

Both the UK and France should be run by Germany. The Brit Royals are Germans anyway plus Germans know how to build stuff and run economies.

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1 minute ago, Harrisfan said:

The irony of the Yanks saving them from Hitler invading to being invaded by crims and muslims.

Well I agree partially with you Harrisfan, the debt we owe to all those brave Americans that fought and died in WW2 can never be forgotten, plus the help with resources in the Atlantic but your history is slightly wrong. Germany tried to invade UK in summer 1940 but due to the valiant efforts of the RAF and the wonders of Radar was repulsed. UK stood alone till June 1941 when another of our allies Russia entered the war which was 6 months befor USA did. In fact, what the outcome would of been if USA hadn't is open to debate,

German connections began in 1714 when George I, an Elector of Hanover (in modern-day Germany), became King of Great Britain after the death of Queen Anne. His descendants, including Queen Victoria, married German royals, notably Prince Albert of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, which solidified the German ties.

1 minute ago, baansgr said:

Well I agree partially with you Harrisfan, the debt we owe to all those brave Americans that fought and died in WW2 can never be forgotten, plus the help with resources in the Atlantic but your history is slightly wrong. Germany tried to invade UK in summer 1940 but due to the valiant efforts of the RAF and the wonders of Radar was repulsed. UK stood alone till June 1941 when another of our allies Russia entered the war which was 6 months befor USA did. In fact, what the outcome would of been if USA hadn't is open to debate,

Yes Russians killed the most Nazis but the Yanks supplied them with goods under Lend Lease. They also supplied the poms. Lend Lease was the turning point in ww2. The Nazis had so many tanks the allies needed the Yank supplies.

4 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Yes Russians killed the most Nazis but the Yanks supplied them with goods under Lend Lease. They also supplied the poms. Lend Lease was the turning point in ww2. The Nazis had so many tanks the allies needed the Yank supplies.

Good to here a Skippy's thoughts on WW2 😊

Just now, baansgr said:

Good to here a Skippy's thoughts on WW2 😊

Love ww2 history. Yanks won wars then. Havent won since. Vietnam and Korean wars were strange. Eisenhower was a legend and best President last century. That's a real leader not a nancy boy or a talker.

Dictators like Starmer never resign. McSweeny was thrown under a bus to avoid Starmer taking any responsibility. Sickening.

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2 minutes ago, henryford1958 said:

Dictators like Starmer never resign. McSweeny was thrown under a bus to avoid Starmer taking any responsibility. Sickening.

Dictator Starmer? Get some perspective please.

59 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Dictator Starmer? Get some perspective please.

He flip flops on issues

A weak man

37 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

He flip flops on issues

A weak man

Yes, I wish he'd show more backbone.

8 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Yes, I wish he'd show more backbone.

Neville Chamberlain like person.

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