My Dad was in the Suffolk's in Palestine and Jordan1948 keeping the Arabs and Jews apart' what is it you imagine I don't understand?

48 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

The Israeli leadership were awoken at at their homes at 6 .30 AM, they traveled to HQ by 8 AM , they had begun managing the situation by 1 PM and war was officially declared soon after .

Where exactly was the delay ?

Refer article I linked above.

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

To reveal the truth of why thousands of invading terrorists were able to breach Israel’s border security on October 7 And why the security forces failed to respond immediately.

Israeli security forces DID immediately respond .

379 Israeli security forces died on the day fighting against Hamas .

That IS an immediate response

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Refer article I linked above.

Write it yourself and stop being lazy

11 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Write it yourself and stop being lazy

Let me help you with your reading:

“three [Netanyahu, Defense Minister Yoav Gallant, and IDF Chief of Staff Lt.-Gen. Herzi Halevi.] did not speak until nearly four hours into the war, by which point hundreds of Israeli hostages had already been taken, and hundreds of Israelis had been killed.”

And:

“Classified video footage of the IDF high command “pit,” which we viewed, showed that on October 7, not a single general was in the room. The midlevel officer in charge and his deputies were yelling at each other as reports of invasions flooded in. They had no overall defense plan.”

And:

“The Israeli military's top commanders did not really start to manage the nation’s defense until about 1:00 p.m, which was also around the time Netanyahu's first video to the public came out.

By that time, Hamas and Islamic Jihad had taken the overwhelming majority of the hostages, and most Israeli victims at places near the Gaza border, like Kfar Aza, Nir Oz, Beeri, and the Nova Music Festival, had already been murdered.”

There’s much more, refer:

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/politics-and-diplomacy/article-886242

6 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Let me help you with your reading:

“three [Netanyahu, Defense Minister Yoav Gallant, and IDF Chief of Staff Lt.-Gen. Herzi Halevi.] did not speak until nearly four hours into the war, by which point hundreds of Israeli hostages had already been taken, and hundreds of Israelis had been killed.”

And:

“Classified video footage of the IDF high command “pit,” which we viewed, showed that on October 7, not a single general was in the room. The midlevel officer in charge and his deputies were yelling at each other as reports of invasions flooded in. They had no overall defense plan.”

And:

“The Israeli military's top commanders did not really start to manage the nation’s defense until about 1:00 p.m, which was also around the time Netanyahu's first video to the public came out.

By that time, Hamas and Islamic Jihad had taken the overwhelming majority of the hostages, and most Israeli victims at places near the Gaza border, like Kfar Aza, Nir Oz, Beeri, and the Nova Music Festival, had already been murdered.”

There’s much more, refer:

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/politics-and-diplomacy/article-886242

:) , I did read that and parphrsed it and wrote it myself , here :

"The Israeli leadership were awoken at at their homes at 6 .30 AM, they traveled to HQ by 8 AM , they had begun managing the situation by 1 PM and war was officially declared soon after .

Where exactly was the delay ?"

So back to :

Where exactly was the delay ?"

Just now, Nick Carter icp said:

:) , I did read that and parphrsed it and wrote it myself , here :

"The Israeli leadership were awoken at at their homes at 6 .30 AM, they traveled to HQ by 8 AM , they had begun managing the situation by 1 PM and war was officially declared soon after .

Where exactly was the delay ?"

So back to :

Where exactly was the delay ?"

Refer direct quotes above.

“By that time [1pm], Hamas and Islamic Jihad had taken the overwhelming majority of the hostages, and most Israeli victims at places near the Gaza border, like Kfar Aza, Nir Oz, Beeri, and the Nova Music Festival, had already been murdered.”

27 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Write it yourself and stop being lazy

He never reads past the headline, that's where the wheels always fall off if the left

1 minute ago, Yellowtail said:

He never reads past the headline, that's where the wheels always fall off if the left

A very odd thing to say given the extracted quotes I have given.

12 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Let me help you with your reading:

“three [Netanyahu, Defense Minister Yoav Gallant, and IDF Chief of Staff Lt.-Gen. Herzi Halevi.] did not speak until nearly four hours into the war, by which point hundreds of Israeli hostages had already been taken, and hundreds of Israelis had been killed.”

And:

“Classified video footage of the IDF high command “pit,” which we viewed, showed that on October 7, not a single general was in the room. The midlevel officer in charge and his deputies were yelling at each other as reports of invasions flooded in. They had no overall defense plan.”

And:

“The Israeli military's top commanders did not really start to manage the nation’s defense until about 1:00 p.m, which was also around the time Netanyahu's first video to the public came out.

By that time, Hamas and Islamic Jihad had taken the overwhelming majority of the hostages, and most Israeli victims at places near the Gaza border, like Kfar Aza, Nir Oz, Beeri, and the Nova Music Festival, had already been murdered.”

There’s much more, refer:

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/politics-and-diplomacy/article-886242

It appears that you are more critical of Israel than Hamas concerning the events of January 6. It’s striking how some Europeans seem to still harbor resentment towards Jews over the Holocaust.

4 minutes ago, Fact said:

It appears that you are more critical of Israel than Hamas concerning the events of January 6. It’s striking how some Europeans seem to still harbor resentment towards Jews over the Holocaust.

I’m not sure how you come to that conclusion.

I have clearly stated that Hamas are guilty of the heinous terrorist attack of Oct 7.

A point I have repeated twice in this thread and which is consistent with my comments since October 7 on Hamas’ culpability for that heinous terrorist attack.

I’m really not sure what your comment regarding ‘some Europeans seeming to hold resentment towards Jews over the Holocaust’ is referring to.

I can’t think of any European I know who that would apply to.

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I’m not sure how you come to that conclusion.

I have clearly stated that Hamas are guilty of the heinous terrorist attack of Oct 7.

A point I have repeated twice in this thread and which is consistent with my comments since October 7 on Hamas’ culpability for that heinous terrorist attack.

I’m really not sure what your comment regarding ‘some Europeans seeming to hold resentment towards Jews over the Holocaust’.

I can’t think of any European I know who that would apply to.

You devote nearly all your time attacking Israel in the context of January 6th.

1 minute ago, Fact said:

You devote nearly all your time attacking Israel in the context of January 6th.

Are you getting your dates mixed up and if so are you losing track of time?

13 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Refer direct quotes above.

“By that time [1pm], Hamas and Islamic Jihad had taken the overwhelming majority of the hostages, and most Israeli victims at places near the Gaza border, like Kfar Aza, Nir Oz, Beeri, and the Nova Music Festival, had already been murdered.”

Yes, that happened at 6 .30 AM .

The Israeli leadership were asleep .

They had to wake up, shower, eat and travel to H.Q.

Then get info about the situation and decide what to do .

1 PM is a reasonable time for a response

2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Yes, that happened at 6 .30 AM .

The Israeli leadership were asleep .

They had to wake up, shower, eat and travel to H.Q.

Then get info about the situation and decide what to do .

1 PM is a reasonable time for a response

Maybe someone has questions to answer:

“Only months into the war would IDF intelligence inform Halevi that it had intercepted Hamas's "Walls of Jericho" mass-invasion plan more than a year before, since mid-level officials had dismissed it as a fantasy.”

Which puts this in a bad light:

“Classified video footage of the IDF high command“pit,” which we viewed, showed that on October 7, not a single general was in the room. The midlevel officer in charge and his deputies were yelling at each other as reports of invasions flooded in. They had no overall defense plan.”

6 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Maybe someone has questions to answer:

“Only months into the war would IDF intelligence inform Halevi that it had intercepted Hamas's "Walls of Jericho" mass-invasion plan more than a year before, since mid-level officials had dismissed it as a fantasy.”

Israel had been receiving similar reports of an imminent invasion since 2018 , along with many other reports .

Israel had tanks and about 500 military personal located there to deal with it

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Israel had been receiving similar reports of an imminent invasion since 2018 , along with many other reports .

Israel had tanks and about 500 military personal located there to deal with it

And yet, as stated above.

There was no plan.

The need for a full and open inquiry is clear.

7 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

And yet, as stated above.

There was no plan.

The need for a full and open inquiry is clear.

Why is it yours or any one else's business ?

Its a private issue for Israel ?

its an internal security issue for Israel .

Should every Country face International enquires about their own defence procedure or JUST Israel .

Are you treating Israel differently to every other Country ?

4 hours ago, placnx said:

Your information is wildly incorrect. Wikipedia says that the Jewish population of Gaza was 150, with 80 living in Gaza City:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Gaza#:~:text=In%20the%201945%20village%20survey,Col.

Wikepedia is wrong , British madate data , UN records and israeli records say otherwise,, Have you ever been to israel or gaza or any where in ME ,, I have lived in Egypt and Israel, worked in GAZA , jordan and lebanon and most of ME ,, what one reads in Western media is often wildly inaccurate ,, The Jordanians, Egyptians and Lebanese hate the Palestinians ... Saudi and Iraq also hate them they are only welcome in QATAR or as cheap labour in the Gulf emirates but they are despised ....I havealso worked with a lot of great Palestinian techs in the offshore industry ,, they hate the PLO nand HAMAS but are terrified of them ,,, many used to work in Israel too until HAMAS broke the peace ,, what many people dont know is that 25% of palestinian Arabs used to be Christian but were forcably converted or had to flee,,

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Off topic post and the reply has been removed.

2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Maybe someone has questions to answer:

“Only months into the war would IDF intelligence inform Halevi that it had intercepted Hamas's "Walls of Jericho" mass-invasion plan more than a year before, since mid-level officials had dismissed it as a fantasy.”

Which puts this in a bad light:

“Classified video footage of the IDF high command“pit,” which we viewed, showed that on October 7, not a single general was in the room. The midlevel officer in charge and his deputies were yelling at each other as reports of invasions flooded in. They had no overall defense plan.”

Israel can stop hundreds of cruise missiles from Iran yet can't stop guys breaking out of a concentration camp in pickups and paragliders.

It's obvious that the terrorist Israeli cabinet were looking for an excuse to flatten 95% of Gazan houses, cultural centres, universities, hospitals, mosques, schools, churches AND kill 25,000 children and almost get away with it as the a Western media censor the truth.

2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The need for a full and open inquiry is clear.

And NOT by the complicit USA .

On 2/10/2026 at 6:45 PM, Yagoda said:

Tell that to the civilians of Dresden, Hiroshima, London, Joburg, Hanoi, Lenningrad, and so many others. You start wars, you risk it all.

The Palestinians didn’t start this war. The UN actually set up the conditions of the war by giving about half of Palestine to the Jews in 1947. The Jews (now called "Israelis”) then started the war by increasing their claim on the land from about 50% to now about 95% over the past 70 years. And how did they do that? By military actions, which are now increasingly seen by the general public as despicable anti-Semitic genocide.

3 hours ago, WDSmart said:

The Palestinians didn’t start this war. The UN actually set up the conditions of the war by giving about half of Palestine to the Jews in 1947. The Jews (now called "Israelis”) then started the war by increasing their claim on the land from about 50% to now about 95% over the past 70 years. And how did they do that? By military actions, which are now increasingly seen by the general public as despicable anti-Semitic genocide.

Got it. The Arabs didnt attack in 1948. I was the fault of the Jews, of course. Those pesky greedy jews

34 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Got it. The Arabs didnt attack in 1948. I was the fault of the Jews, of course. Those pesky greedy jews

Here's a good article for you to read... 1948 Palestine war - Wikipedia

1 minute ago, WDSmart said:

Here's a good article for you to read... 1948 Palestine war - Wikipedia

I dont read Wikipedia except for science stuff. Too much propaganda. There are things called books, read some.

6 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

I dont read Wikipedia except for science stuf

"Wikipedia" and "science stuff" is an oxymoron!

Just now, scottiejohn said:

"Wikipedia" and "science stuff" is an oxymoron!

Off topic. Start one and Ill be happy to again, as always, prove that you have nothing.

9 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

I dont read Wikipedia except for science stuff. Too much propaganda. There are things called books, read some.

I read Wikipedia except for the science stuff. Too many interpretations. I know there are things called books. I’ve written and published ten of them.

13 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

I read Wikipedia except for the science stuff. Too many interpretations. I know there are things called books. I’ve written and published ten of them.

Sure give us the titles. Dick and Jane Go to Thailand?

So you are saying a Wikipedia article on Trump is less "interpretive" than an article on Cat Behavior?