4 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Agreed. And it's very possible and more likely that Trump actually participated with the teenagers. It's also quite likely that the same happened in Moscow, which of course was videotaped, and that explains Trump's absolute fealty to King Vlad.

Trump is very, very guilty, it's just a question of to what extent, not whether or not he's guilty.

One of the more deranged posts Ive read here since the dr Pat Pong and Thaddeus days. Take a bow sir. Oh and wipe your phone history before entering the US😅

2 hours ago, Presnock said:

If you have listened to any of the Congressional Committee interrogating Trump's justice Secretary, you would have heard comments and questions to her by committee that has reviewed those unredacted files and would have heard them say that Trump should be indicted as he also took part in the child abuse! Just saying, the hearings are open to the public and are taking place almost daily now. Just saying, these Committee members also indicate that while he may have been referenced in the files already put out to the public some 38 thousand times, in the unredacted files he is mentioned "millions" of times by the committee members. If any further indictments do come out IMHO, Trump's DOJ will try to avoid serving him so it will be up to the American citizens whether they want he to remain in office or not unless he can cancel the fall elections for Congress.

If you think about who he is as a man, and you are familiar with his business practices over the last 45 years, you realize that the man is ethically bankrupt and morally depraved, and when you combine that with the fact that he was close friends with Epstein one simply has to come to the conclusion that Trump abused many many underaged women, over the course of his lifetime.

1 minute ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

One of the more deranged posts Ive read here since the dr Pat Pong and Thaddeus days. Take a bow sir. Oh and wipe your phone history before entering the US😅

He is supposedly in the USA. He can only post such insane, deranged, disgusting, trollish drivel because he is doing on a forum hosted overseas, assuming he isnt a bot.

8 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

I dont think Trump was a policeman or had arrest power back in 2006 or whenever it was that he blew the whistle.

I guess you're going to keep on trying to promote the falsehood that Trump blew the whistle. Epstein had already been arrested when Trump spoke to the police chief. And given that he later denied he knew anything about Epstein's nefarious activities. He also later wished Ghislaine Maxwell well, refused to rule out pardoning her, and had this sex offender transferred to a low security level prison even though the police chief said Trump called her an "advocate" for Epstein and "evil". Why so protective of her?

6 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Why would Trump drop a dime on him if he was involved? Too tough for you to answer?

Why if Trump is culpable didnt Bidens DOJ indict him? Another one thats too hard for you?

Why would Trump drop a dime on him if he was involved? Answer below from the Saloon article you linked (my use of bold and underline).

Hope you can put two and two together, now! Interesting that he tries to divert attention away from Epstein, isn't it.

"Per Reiter, Trump was one of the first people to contact him after the investigation into Epstein became public knowledge. He told Reiter to focus the investigation on Maxwell, calling her “evil.”"

Why if Trump is culpable didnt Bidens DOJ indict him? This has been asked and answered so many times, and you know the answer as well as I do. But, a "diverter's" gotta do what a "diverter's" gotta do I guess.

The DOJ under Biden continued reviewing Epstein-related materials, but ongoing issues like victim reports, Maxwell's appeal, and an open grand jury limited public releases - not because of a cover-up, but to protect investigations.

So here's my question to you:

Why, if Trump is innocent of any wrongdoing wrt the Epstein files, did Ghislaine Maxwell, a convicted sex offender doing hard time serving a 20 year sentence, suddenly get transferred to Club Fed?

13 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

He is supposedly in the USA. He can only post such insane, deranged, disgusting, trollish drivel because he is doing on a forum hosted overseas, assuming he isnt a bot.

Are you saying that in the US, the land of infinet freedoms, he couldn't post those very likely scenarios?

1 minute ago, BLMFem said:

Are you saying that in the US, the land of infinet freedoms, he couldn't post those very likely scenarios?

Libel and slander are well recognized exemptions to the 1st. Just another troll comment on your part since even a 5 year old American knows that

1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

Libel and slander are well recognized exemptions to the 1st. Just another troll comment on your part since even a 5 year old American knows that

So, American 5 y/o's are smarter than Trump then. Got it!

BTW, when are you going to answer this question, or is it too hard for you?

Why, if Trump is innocent of any wrongdoing wrt the Epstein files, did Ghislaine Maxwell, a convicted sex offender doing hard time serving a 20 year sentence, suddenly get transferred to Club Fed?

3 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

So, American 5 y/o's are smarter than Trump then. Got it!

BTW, when are you going to answer this question, or is it too hard for you?

Why, if Trump is innocent of any wrongdoing wrt the Epstein files, did Ghislaine Maxwell, a convicted sex offender doing hard time serving a 20 year sentence, suddenly get transferred to Club Fed?

1. Your first point about 5-year-olds makes no sense but is rather typical.

2. As to your second question, you have to ask the bureau of prisons as they do the assigning. In many cases it's not just question of the crime one was convicted of but the personal circumstances of the offender in terms of institutional security. You of course are unable to demonstrate any misconduct on anyone's part in terms of her assignment to a particular prison.

3 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

1. Your first point about 5-year-olds makes no sense but is rather typical.

2. As to your second question, you have to ask the bureau of prisons as they do the assigning. In many cases it's not just question of the crime one was convicted of but the personal circumstances of the offender in terms of institutional security. You of course are unable to demonstrate any misconduct on anyone's part in terms of her assignment to a particular prison.

Suuure, because Trump had absolutely nothing to do with the astounding move of a sex offender doing hard time in a real prison to Club Fed,

a federal vacation camp.😂

Oh my, just when I thought it couldn't get any lamer, along comes Yagoda and completely blows that assumption out of the water!

40 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

Suuure, because Trump had absolutely nothing to do with the astounding move of a sex offender doing hard time in a real prison to Club Fed,

a federal vacation camp.😂

You have nothing. But its OK, enjoy your fantasy land.

PS There is no "Club Fed". Prison is prison.

1 hour ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

I dont think Trump was a policeman or had arrest power back in 2006 or whenever it was that he blew the whistle.

Trump did not blow the whistle, as Epstein had already been arrested. Why didn't Trump report it before that?

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

If you think about who he is as a man, and you are familiar with his business practices over the last 45 years, you realize that the man is ethically bankrupt and morally depraved, and when you combine that with the fact that he was close friends with Epstein one simply has to come to the conclusion that Trump abused many many underaged women, over the course of his lifetime.

I don't like Trump, and see him for what he actually is, no bias involved, but without proof no one knows what Trump did with anyone under aged.

Of course he's immoral, a misogynist and a cheater, but there are countless men like him and they still won't go as low as a pedophile. Epstein was definitely one, and there's no telling who else was involved until the truth comes out, but it's quite a stretch going from an immoral character to preying on children. Of course there's a possibility Trump went along with the Epstein behavior, and it would be logical to alienate himself from Epstein after he was charged, especially in his position, but again.

Trump has a chance to help our country, and others, and his ego might ruin things, but best to stick to the truth in any event. I have friends who are cheaters, but I'm not,even though we're close. Who you hang around with can influence your thinking, IF you allow it to.

1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

Libel and slander are well recognized exemptions to the 1st. Just another troll comment on your part since even a 5 year old American knows that

They would also know that there's a much higher bar for public figures. Of course, if that public figure is a notoriously litigious President with virtually unlimited funds, that does change the calculations

1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

1. Your first point about 5-year-olds makes no sense but is rather typical.

2. As to your second question, you have to ask the bureau of prisons as they do the assigning. In many cases it's not just question of the crime one was convicted of but the personal circumstances of the offender in terms of institutional security. You of course are unable to demonstrate any misconduct on anyone's part in terms of her assignment to a particular prison.

I recognise dodgy Todd Blanche's actual words in your reply.

It's interesting to note that Alex Acosta, who was the U.S. attorney who decided not to prosecute Epstein after Florida negotiated an original extraordinary sweetheart deal for Trump, was the Secretary of Labor for 2 years during Trump's first term.

"Still, the congressional committee's investigators are expected to press Acosta on a number of fronts, particularly on his decision to enter into plea negotiations in the summer of 2007, while a 60-count draft federal indictment against Epstein was gathering dust in the office of the lead prosecutor on the case. The negotiations and resulting plea deal also occurred, according to the OPR report, while the FBI and Acosta's prosecutors were still investigating the case and identifying new victims in other jurisdictions. The deal was also signed before the FBI or prosecutors had made any concerted effort to try to gain the cooperation of Epstein's alleged co-conspirators, according to the report."

https://abcnews.com/Politics/alex-acosta-former-us-attorney-negotiated-epsteins-plea/story?id=125731737

7 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

I recognise dodgy Todd Blanche's actual words in your reply.

You can feel free to dispute instead of just spewing more nonsense

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

If you think about who he is as a man, and you are familiar with his business practices over the last 45 years, you realize that the man is ethically bankrupt and morally depraved, and when you combine that with the fact that he was close friends with Epstein one simply has to come to the conclusion that Trump abused many many underaged women, over the course of his lifetime.

I totally agree with your assessment. Today I learned from the public hearings, upon assuming the presidency this time he had the DOJ drop the office that monitors cryptocurrency activity and as we know, from reporting he has garnered 1.5 BILLION USD in this past year with cryptocurrency dealings! Also, from a different hearing, Melania was invited to the SCOTUS hearing about 1.2 billion US dollar properties that had been frozen by the court previously. They read out before beginning the questions, amounts and dates of transfers of those frozen accounts and noting that she signed for each one. She the report stated was shocked! She said that DJT and his lawyers told her it was okay to sign for those actions! Now I learned from the same public source, Ivanka was visited by the FBI who requested and took her passport. Interesting one can learn from public videos of government activities. The congressional hearings are televised for the public's awareness of the lack of secrecy involved in blatant violations of the US Constitution.

7 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

You can feel free to dispute instead of just spewing more nonsense

I just did. Todd Blanche is Donald Trump's former criminal attorney in the Stormy Daniels case. That's the Deputy AG...a bit of a joke in itself.

Now to your assertion that the Bureau Of Prisons suddenly deciding within a week of Todd Blanche's meeting with Ghislane Maxwell, that she was was transferred to a minimum-security, women-only, federal prison camp in Bryan, Texas, that houses mainly nonviolent offenders and white collar crooks.

Furthermore, according to the bureau's designation policy, Maxwell appears ineligible to be housed at a minimum-security prison camp because she is a convicted sex offender.

When the transfer was first reported in August, the Bureau of Prisons refused to explain the reason for the move, which Epstein abuse survivors protested. So I filed a Freedom of Information Act request with the BOP asking for information related to this relocation. Specifically:

All records mentioning or referencing Maxwell’s transfer to Federal Prison Camp Byran. This includes emails, memoranda, transfer orders, phone messages, texts, electronic chats, and any other communications, whether internal to BOP or between BOP personnel and any other governmental or nongovernmental personnel.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2026/01/mother-jones-sues-bureau-of-prisons-ghislaine-maxwell-records-epstein-trump-todd-blanche/

To date, crickets...

They aren't backing up your version of events. Their own policy speaks against transferring her to that prison. It seems someone must have used their influence for that to happen.

22 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

So I filed a Freedom of Information Act request with the BOP asking for information related to this relocation. Specifically:

You filed an FOI request? Well let us know the response then.

8 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

You filed an FOI request? Well let us know the response then.

I already told you....crickets. You aren't interested in the truth, are you?

1 minute ago, IsmeUno said:

I already told you....crickets. You aren't interested in the truth, are you?

Let us know when you get a formal response.

You are aware of how inmates are classified, right? You are further aware of the low number of female sex offenders in Federal Prison, right? So that sort of hurts your argument that reclassification is rare. You are well aware that lawyers seek reclassificiation on a regular basis for their clients right, and there are even services that advocate for changes? What points would you have given her for classification purposes. By my count, she could be less than 7

Enjoy tilting at windmills. You dont care about the truth, you only care about your all encompassing Trump hate. I can only imagine how much time you have on your hands. A lot of this stuff reminds me of flat earthers. I hope you find some meaning.

For those who care, here are the rules for classification

https://www.bop.gov/policy/progstat/5100_008cn.pdf

Any good lawyer makes sure that classification is favourable to their client

35 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Let us know when you get a formal response.

You are aware of how inmates are classified, right? You are further aware of the low number of female sex offenders in Federal Prison, right? So that sort of hurts your argument that reclassification is rare. You are well aware that lawyers seek reclassificiation on a regular basis for their clients right, and there are even services that advocate for changes? What points would you have given her for classification purposes. By my count, she could be less than 7

Enjoy tilting at windmills. You dont care about the truth, you only care about your all encompassing Trump hate. I can only imagine how much time you have on your hands. A lot of this stuff reminds me of flat earthers. I hope you find some meaning.

Trump hate? So any other view than your own is classified as hate? That seems somewhat deranged, doesn't it? Are there only absolutes and extremes in your world?

I don't understand your questions. Why not provide explanations? Explain your perspective. Mine is that is surely is not a coincidence that it happened a week after meeting Todd Blanche. What is yours?

Are you suggesting that a deal was not done with Trump's blessing to get her moved? That it just all happened at the same time?

Is this me being hateful by the simple act of analysing information? Is the imagined hate merely only existing in your mind and body?

9 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

Mine is that is surely is not a coincidence that it happened a week after meeting Todd Blanche. What is yours?

Are you suggesting that a deal was not done with Trump's blessing to get her moved? That it just all happened at the same time?

I never really gave it much thought since I used to do reclassifications and know how they work. I assume her lawyer put together a cogent case for her reclassification, like all lawyers do. There are even judicial remedies available.

Keep in mind that she is in a Prison. Tell us how wonderful it is for her to go to a minimum security co-ed lockup to all all female "camp" lock up. She getting caviar and silk sheets now? You do know the difference in the various facilities right?

I dont obsess over Maxwell. She was convicted and got locked up. Fabulous, I hope she enjoys pooping on a stainless toilet. If she would have had anything meaty against Trump, her lawyers would have used it to keep her out of the can or get a sentencing break in the first place, even if the DOJ refused to listen.

Now go out and tilt windmills, nothing anyone ever points out to a Trump obsessive makes a difference. Maybe your time would be more usefully spent for advocating for the victims of illegal alien sex crimes who seem to be forgotten in all the silly brouhaha over where a 60 year old lady will probably die.

9 hours ago, Presnock said:

If you have listened to any of the Congressional Committee interrogating Trump's justice Secretary, you would have heard comments and questions to her by committee that has reviewed those unredacted files and would have heard them say that Trump should be indicted as he also took part in the child abuse! Just saying, the hearings are open to the public and are taking place almost daily now. Just saying, these Committee members also indicate that while he may have been referenced in the files already put out to the public some 38 thousand times, in the unredacted files he is mentioned "millions" of times by the committee members. If any further indictments do come out IMHO, Trump's DOJ will try to avoid serving him so it will be up to the American citizens whether they want he to remain in office or not unless he can cancel the fall elections for Congress.

There is nothing in the public files that would be useful in a court of law against Trump. I challenge you to prove me wrong.

3 minutes ago, Fact said:

There is nothing in the public files that would be useful in a court of law against Trump. I challenge you to prove me wrong.

Given the number of redactions and the disagreement with your statement from those who have seen unredacted versions, there is no way either that you can prove you're right. So what is your point?

Trump said he had no idea that Epstein was a pedophile, now it appears he did know.

This makes Trump a liar.

2 hours ago, Fact said:

There is nothing in the public files that would be useful in a court of law against Trump. I challenge you to prove me wrong.

They cant. They work only with spin and innuendo. Its like the Kennedy assassination redux

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