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Trump Complained About Epstein

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On 2/12/2026 at 11:30 PM, IsmeUno said:

So far we have tilting of windmills, Trump obsession....all kinds of weird thoughts, but a strange inability to discuss the topic matter without seeming to lose it.

It's not personal you know. We are discussing current affairs. Any chance that you can act like a civil human being whilst we are doing so?

Welcome to debating MAGA and in particular Yagoda.

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    This is hilarious. For starters, he clearly was not the first person to blow the whistle. And we know this because former Chief of Palm Beach Police Michael Reiter said that Epstein had already been a

  • Trying to make a raft out of those straws you are clutching?gathering forage for the horses?dude face it Donnie’s desperately trying to cover his ass and you are carrying water for him…..sad

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    Nothing rational to offer. Just empty insults directed at my comment and those of others.. It's remarkable how badly you have misconstrued this story and how you have nothing substantial to offer in r

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18 hours ago, Fact said:

Soliciting someone under 18 is not classified as paedophilia unless the person is under 13 years old.

Paedophile refers to an individual who experiences a persistent sexual attraction to prepubescent children, typically defined as those under the age of 13. This condition is clinically recognized as pedophilic disorder in diagnostic systems like the DSM-5 and ICD-11, which require the attraction to be present for at least six months and accompanied by distress or harmful behavior to qualify as a mental disorder. Importantly, having a sexual attraction to children is not illegal—only acting on that attraction is criminalized.

Yeah it's called Ephebophilia - a sexual interest in mid-to-late adolescents, generally ages 15 to 19 or Hebephile, being attracted to ages of, roughly, 11 to 14 years of age.

1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

I couldn't tell you, what's the average time for response to an FOI request from the bureau of prisons.? How many FOI requests have you ever filed with the government?

I couldn't tell you, because I don't know what the whistleblower testified to and, I don't know what the results of any investigation of his claims were. I do know that attorneys are permitted to bring computers, and that training of service dogs is routine and many federal institutions. Furthermore I know that special meals are regularly available under certain circumstances. I don't know anything about the rules of the institution where she was, nor do I know anything about her personal health, the requests for a special diet, what program she was eligible for, etc. So rather than just automatically assume that evil Trump is up to something, I look for information. Maybe you could find all that stuff out for us

The senators gave a reasonable windows of three weeks. How long would you think is reasonable? September until now.

I just wrote what the whistleblower testified to.

Here it is again:

Maxwell was receiving preferential treatment that included customized meals brought to her cell, private meetings with visitors (who were permitted to bring in computers), email services through the warden’s office, after-hours use of the prison gym, and access to a puppy (that was being trained as a service dog).

I hope that you can see it this time.

What are the special circumstances that allow special meals to be regularly available?

The training of service dogs may be routine, but she wasn't training one.

You earlier asked "Tell us how wonderful it is for her to go to a minimum security co-ed lockup to all all female "camp" lock up."

Key Differences:

  • Security Level: FCI Tallahassee is Low Security; FPC Bryan is Minimum Security.

  • Location/Housing: FCI Tallahassee is in Florida and features more restrictive, traditional prison housing. FPC Bryan is in Texas, with dormitory-style housing, often described as a "camp".

  • Environment: FCI Tallahassee has been criticized for poor conditions, including food service issues, while FPC Bryan is focused on rehabilitation and work programs.

  • Population: FCI Tallahassee houses a more diverse, higher-risk population, whereas FPC Bryan mostly houses non-violent offenders.

  • Movement: Inmates at FPC Bryan have more freedom to move within the facility during designated times.

FPC Bryan is considered a significantly less restrictive environment compared to the higher security, more regimented setting at FCI Tallahassee.

The low-security Federal Correctional Institution (FCI) Tallahassee is a female only prison(with an adjacent co-ed detention centre) with fencing. She moved to the minimum security Federal Prison Camp (FPC) Bryan. Little to no fencing.

Seems like an upgrade to me. How does it look to you? All for saying that she didn't see Trump do anything in front of her?

Let's tackle the things that we know. That he is lying about banning Epstein in 2007 for something we know happened in 2000. He said because it happened again. When did it happen again? In 2007? Why didn't he 'ban' him in 2006 when he spoke to the police chief and why did he single out Maxwell?

I'm happy to look at both sides of the coin, so if you have alternative scenarios that make sense, I'm all ears.

Do you not have an issue with the glaring inconsistencies?

52 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

What tracks is he covering? Again, you ignore the bottom line that the Biden justice department, with full access to all the materials, did nothing. It's not like they cared much about the facts and the law in the other indictments they laid on him.

I don't care about Biden blah blah...it's not an issue that I'm ignoring, because it's not an issue at all. Surely NOW is what is important.

It's only an 'issue' for you, as in your mind, it's political. I don't concern myself with politics.

Even if Trump himself wasn't involved with young girls (highly likely but not yet proven), he absolutely knew about Epstein being a paedo, ephebophiliac or hebephile (take your pick) -

Trump told New York magazine for a profile on Epstein in 2002.'"I've known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy," "He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side." https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c93n7yg47deo

That's back in 2002, 3 years BEFORE Epstein was charged in Florida. But here we have the usual MAGA faithful all trying to say he's completely innocent of anything to do with Epstein when it is literally coming out of his own mouth that he knew Epstein liked them 'on the younger side'.

So come on, let's here the deflections, false narratives and strawmen regarding THIS.

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Some of the Maga Trump defenses posted here remind me of the old Steely Dan album ...Pretzel Logic

You have to truly twist and turn all logic into crooked pretzel shapes to not be able or willing to accept the fact that Trump is trying everything he can think of to keep the Epstein files buried.

Whether he wants it all buried by DOJ FBI Press etc because he knows full well there are videos and photos and other evidence that even he cannot BS away. Or perhaps he is protecting some of his very wealthy friends that have him by the short curlies for who knows what other nefarious deeds and have told him if i go down I will take you with me.

Innocent people do not twist themselves into pretzels to bury evidence.

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24 minutes ago, pomchop said:

Innocent people do not twist themselves into pretzels to bury evidence.

Evidence that was readily available to the people who did not hesitate to indict trump for made up stuff, and who called him a danger to humanity.

That fact alone destroys your narrative

14 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Evidence that was readily available to the people who did not hesitate to indict trump for made up stuff, and who called him a danger to humanity.

That fact alone destroys your narrative

What fact? I read an opinion.

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26 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

What fact? I read an opinion.

you mean the fact that Bidens Doj did not indict Trump is an opinion?

None of you guys can answer that you just spin flame and deflect.

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5 minutes ago, JerryM said:

Trump's exact words to the Palm Beach Police Pg 3:

"thank goodness you' re stopping him, everyone has known he's been doing this

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/26904744-reiter-2019-fbi-interview/

Who else blew him in of all the people he knew? Bill Clinton? How about Hillary she never flew in his airplane.

You're sometimes reasonable, tell me why if there is anything on Trump why the Biden department of Justice didn't indict him? They had all the information unredacted and the power of the US government to get anyone to say what they want. They considered him to be the epitome of evil in the world. And they did nothing. Is it because they had nothing?

6 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

You're sometimes reasonable

Thank you. Your timeline re: the linked document is wrong.

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46 minutes ago, JerryM said:

Thank you. Your timeline re: the linked document is wrong.

What does the timeline have to do with the two questions I raised

5 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Who else blew him in of all the people he knew? Bill Clinton? How about Hillary she never flew in his airplane.

You're sometimes reasonable, tell me why if there is anything on Trump why the Biden department of Justice didn't indict him? They had all the information unredacted and the power of the US government to get anyone to say what they want. They considered him to be the epitome of evil in the world. And they did nothing. Is it because they had nothing?

Exactly! If the far left had anything on him, 2020 -2024 would of reared it up, . They threw the kitchen sink at him , , tried to kill him, take him off the ballot, the lefty's indicted him 4x. The left manufactures a crisis , they never let it go to waste. No one does propaganda better then the far left. Fact of the matter as all of the lefty's hero's are being Epsteined, Trump is clean

If they had anything on him they would of leaked the creme of de creme.

Forgot to add the leak of his Tax returns, someone is serving time for that now.

Can you imagine how deranged someone could be to join the IRS with the soul purpose of being a leaker.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/irs-leaker-sought-consultant-role-express-purpose-releasing-trumps-tax-returns-doj-says

7 hours ago, Yagoda said:

What does the timeline have to do with the two questions I raised

The topic heading and the first sentence OP:

Trump Complained About Epstein. Looks like he was the first one to do so. So it makes one wonder how he could be guilty of anything if he was the one complaining about it.

From the linked above FBI document:

TRUMP called the PBPD to tell him "thank goodness you're stopping him". TRUMP was one of the very first people to call when people found out that they were investigating EPSTEIN.

So the query: "Why would then-citizen Trump blow the whistle on Epstein if he had any real association with him?" is wrong. Trump did not blow the whistle on Epstein.

The 2 questions you asked do not relate to the topic heading.

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15 hours ago, IsmeUno said:

The senators gave a reasonable windows of three weeks. How long would you think is reasonable

No idea I've never made an foi request. There are attorneys that specialize in that, perhaps you should ask them

4 hours ago, JerryM said:

the query: "Why would then-citizen Trump blow the whistle on Epstein if he had any real association with him?" is wrong. Trump did not blow the whistle on Epstein.

You're evaluation of the timeline doesn't change the validity of the question which was raised in response to the certainty that Trump is a pedophile raised by your buds. Why would Trump give himself exposure by contacting law enforcement?

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15 hours ago, IsmeUno said:

. I don't concern myself with politics.

Yeah that's obvious LOL

9 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

raised by your buds.

So ask them.

26 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

. Why would Trump give himself exposure by contacting law enforcement?

From the FBI doc linked:

TRUMP was one of the very first people to call when people found out that they were investigating EPSTEIN.

NB So he was one of the very first but not the only.

BTW

Remarks by President Trump Before Marine One Departure

Issued on: July 12, 2019

Q Two questions, please. With regard to Jeffrey Epstein, did you have any suspicions that he was molesting young women, underaged women?

THE PRESIDENT: No, I had no idea. I had no idea. I haven’t spoken to him in many, many years. But I had — I didn’t have no idea.

https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-marine-one-departure-52/

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3 hours ago, JerryM said:

From the FBI doc linked:

TRUMP was one of the very first people to call when people found out that they were investigating EPSTEIN.

NB So he was one of the very first but not the only.

BTW

Remarks by President Trump Before Marine One Departure

Issued on: July 12, 2019

Q Two questions, please. With regard to Jeffrey Epstein, did you have any suspicions that he was molesting young women, underaged women?

THE PRESIDENT: No, I had no idea. I had no idea. I haven’t spoken to him in many, many years. But I had — I didn’t have no idea.

https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-marine-one-departure-52/

And off the cuff remark that is the usual Trump word salad? Got it.

Again, do you think if there was anything there, the Biden administration would have done something about it?

38 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

And off the cuff remark that is the usual Trump word salad? Got it.

Pg 5 this topic:

(JerryM) To me this is the most significant outcome so far on the Epstein files: Trump has (figuratively) sworn on a stack of bibles that he NEVER flew on Epstein's jet. The flight logs go to show that Trump has no problem making a false statement and, maybe in his various litigations, that should be stipulated.

AI Gemini on the Trump v WSJ/Murdoch suit:

Current Status (February 2026)

As of early 2026, the lawsuit is still winding through federal court in Florida. While the Epstein estate produced the physical book to Congress, Trump’s team continues to argue that the specific entry attributed to him was planted or forged long ago.

NB Given the above remark, Trump saying he never wrote the Epstein birthday bok entry may be questioned just because he has shown including this one that he has no problem what is proven true.

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https://aseannow.com/topic/1384979-trumpdoj-desperately-block-epstein-files-release/page/3/

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59 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Again, do you think if there was anything there, the Biden administration would have done something about it?

I remember reading this NY Times article -- via Gemini AI:

Gemini said

A report by The New York Times (published in early 2024 and echoed in post-election retrospectives) detailed a significant miscalculation within Merrick Garland’s Department of Justice regarding Donald Trump’s political future.

According to these reports, the DOJ’s slow pace in initiating investigations into the former president was partly rooted in a belief that he was a fading political figure.

Key Findings from the NYT Report:

The "Fading Figure" Theory: Senior officials within the DOJ, and reportedly Attorney General Merrick Garland himself, initially viewed Trump as a "spent political force" after the January 6 Capitol riot. They believed he would naturally retreat from the spotlight, which contributed to a cautious, methodical approach that avoided early, direct investigations into Trump himself.

The 2024 Surprise: The DOJ was reportedly caught off guard by the speed and intensity with which Trump consolidated GOP support and reclaimed his status as the presumptive nominee. By the time Special Counsel Jack Smith was appointed in late 2022, the political calendar was already colliding with the legal one.

I see now as the grifter wants his name plastered on everything they are in future calling all the Epstein files the new name is now the Trump-Epstein files.

4 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Why would Trump give himself exposure by contacting law enforcement?


Why would he contact law enforcement if he had something to hide?
That’s a false dilemma and a non sequitur.

You’ve never heard of damage control — or controlling the narrative?

In politics, whoever owns the narrative owns the game.

Powerful people get ahead of exposure.
If you know you’ll be named, you cooperate early and later say, ‘I helped.’
That’s strategy, not innocence.

Contacting law enforcement doesn’t erase associations.
It’s optics, not virtue.

Same pattern with the Epstein Transparency Act.
It was veto-proof.
His signature changed nothing.
Yet Bondi still calls him ‘the most transparent president in the nation’s history.’

In reality, signing what you can’t stop isn’t transparency — it’s pure spin.

‘He wouldn’t expose himself’ isn’t proof. It doesn’t follow.

The realization that Trump and Epstein were foes, and that nothing untoward was discovered in the files sbout him(unlike democrats and prominent member of the liberal douche illuminati) seems to be severely triggering for the irrational hate crew.

Oh well, straight onto the next bs anti Trump narrative. No time to waste.

3 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Again, do you think if there was anything there, the Biden administration would have done something about it?


That’s argument from ignorance. Government inaction isn’t proof of absence — or exoneration.

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10 minutes ago, candide said:

It's been a MAGA hoax to smear Dems for years, until after February 2025, and you and other MAGAs, such as Riclag, relayed it! 🤣🤣🤣

It's so funny to see Trump having a taste of his own medecine!

No idea what you are blathering on about. The files have been an unmitigated disaster for Democrats and the liberal douche illuminati. End of

12 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

No idea what you are blathering on about. The files have been an unmitigated disaster for Democrats and the liberal douche illuminati. End of

Quote: "No idea what you are blathering on about". 🤣🤣🤣

5 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

The realization that Trump and Epstein were foes, and that nothing untoward was discovered in the files sbout him(unlike democrats and prominent member of the liberal douche illuminati) seems to be severely triggering for the irrational hate crew.

Oh well, straight onto the next bs anti Trump narrative. No time to waste.

5 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

The realization that Trump and Epstein were foes,

Realization of foes, So much so that during the Michael Cohen hearing the Dem Stacey Plaskett who participated at the hearing was getting tips(questioning tips) in real time from her benefactor Epstein.

How quickly that fell silent with the Get Trump mob of Domestic & International leftist media outlets.

google ai overview:

"Yes, Representative Stacey Plaskett (D-USVI) received campaign contributions from convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, as well as his associates, according to Federal Election Commission (FEC) records and court documents".

And...

7 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

The realization that Trump and Epstein were foes, and that nothing untoward was discovered in the files sbout him(unlike democrats and prominent member of the liberal douche illuminati) seems to be severely triggering for the irrational hate crew.

Oh well, straight onto the next bs anti Trump narrative. No time to waste.

When did they become foes? They were best friends at one time. Your constant spinning of the facts just makes you seem weird.

Why not just speak the truth and let the cards fall as they should? They had a falling out in 2004. Prior to that, they were close.

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