2 minutes ago, Schoggibueb said:

Glaciers in the Alps and around the world are retreating faster and faster. The consequences of melting glaciers are being felt not only in Switzerland, but all over the planet.

Since 1850, the volume of Alpine glaciers has decreased by about 60%. What is surprising, however, is the rate at which the Alpine “giants” and glaciers in all regions of the planet are shrinking.

Since the pre-industrial era, the temperature in Switzerland has risen by more than 2°C, twice the world average. At this rate, half of the approximately 1,500 Alpine glaciers – including the majestic Aletsch Glacier, a UNESCO World Heritage Site – will disappear by 2050. And if nothing is done to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, all glaciers in Switzerland and Europe could melt almost completely by the end of the century.

What are the consequences of melting glaciers?

Glaciers provide fresh water to more than two billion people.

Their retreat caused by global warming threatens the water supply of downstream communities, particularly in Asia and Latin America, and has negative repercussions for agriculture and hydropower production. Melting glaciers increase the risk of landslides and floods and contribute to sea level rise.

The Antarctic Ice Sheet (land ice) has shown a more dramatic reversal. A 2025 study analyzing satellite gravimetry data found the ice sheet gained 108 gigatons of mass per year between 2021 and 2023, a historic turnaround from a previous loss rate of 142 gigatons per year.

Two studies published this year by the same team of researchers show that islands in the Federated States of Micronesia and the Gilbert Islands in the Republic of Kiribati have expanded their areas since the 1940s. The research is the latest in a line of studies demonstrating that not all low-lying islands are doomed to drown.

What are the consequences of melting glaciers?

3 minutes ago, Schoggibueb said:

Glaciers provide fresh water to more than two billion people.

so instead of carping on about something natural over which we have no control at all, why don,t these concerned "experts" come up with a plan to simply collect the water as the glaciers melt , It might involve something as mind blowingly hi tec as digging out a reservoir or two? All the unemployed lefties ,asylum fraudsters, other assorted criminals could be forced into some sort of chain-gang to dig it out by hand, obviously the climate change activists, driven by fear , would volunteer willingly ( to save the planet )

3 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

based on common sense

If you bothered to look back you can see that I have already addressed the fact that potentially the AMOC collapse could be only decades away.

14 hours ago, Bandersnatch said:

You claimed it's unlikely yet offered no scientific evidence to support your assumptions.

Scientific Consensus: There is high confidence that the AMOC is weakening, but low-to-medium confidence regarding the precise temperature threshold at which it becomes irreversible.

Confidence Interval (Risk Range): 1.4°C to 8.0°C (1.5°C was already breached in 2024)

"The authors find that AMOC collapse and Amazon dieback would likely be the first components to tip. This could be in the next 15 years and 50 years, respectively, depending on the scenario, they find"

https://www.eco-business.com/news/every-01c-of-overshoot-above-15c-increases-risk-of-crossing-tipping-points/

Regarding your joking comment that you had "noticed my thermometer has risen a few degrees"

The tropics is particularly vulnerable to temperature rises due to the fact that it's already very hot and humid to start with.

The heat index is a measure of how hot it actually feels to the human body when relative humidity is combined with the air temperature.

As the temperature rises above body temperature and humidity rises the body's ability to cool itself through sweating starts to breakdown leading to heatstroke and eventually death.

This might all be a big joke to you, but death through heatstroke is an increasing problem for people who have to work outside in the sun where I live.

9 minutes ago, Bandersnatch said:

The tropics is particularly vulnerable to temperature rises due to the fact that it's already very hot and humid to start with.

In Thailand, this is the coldest winter I've ever experienced.

1 minute ago, BritManToo said:

In Thailand, this is the coldest winter I've ever experienced.

You can see from the graph that there is natural variation year to year but the trend is clearly upwards

Just now, Bandersnatch said:

This might all be a big joke to you, but death through heatstroke is an increasing problem for people who have to work outside in the sun where I live.

Have you chosen to live somewhere hotter than the rest of us, not very good planning for somebody so well informed, where did it all go wrong lol

people working outside in the sun know when to take a break and to drink sufficient water or at least they should do , So how many deaths have been caused by heat stroke in the past 12 months "where you live" ?

1 minute ago, Bday Prang said:

Have you chosen to live somewhere hotter than the rest of us, not very good planning for somebody so well informed, where did it all go wrong lol

I live in the country where people don't work in air-conditioned offices but out in the full sun.

As for my lack of planning, I designed and built my house specifically for this climate.

31 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Two studies published this year by the same team of researchers show that islands in the Federated States of Micronesia and the Gilbert Islands in the Republic of Kiribati have expanded their areas since the 1940s. The research is the latest in a line of studies demonstrating that not all low-lying islands are doomed to drown.

You have a bad habit of misrepresentation. The increase in land mass has been achieved primarily through land reclamation. The reality is that multiple islands have been lost. https://theconversation.com/sea-level-rise-has-claimed-five-whole-islands-in-the-pacific-first-scientific-evidence-58511 Prior to this report, Nahlapenlohd, a couple of kilometres south of Pohnpei Island in Micronesia was lost.

1 minute ago, Patong2021 said:

You have a bad habit of misrepresentation. The increase in land mass has been achieved primarily through land reclamation. The reality is that multiple islands have been lost. https://theconversation.com/sea-level-rise-has-claimed-five-whole-islands-in-the-pacific-first-scientific-evidence-58511 Prior to this report, Nahlapenlohd, a couple of kilometres south of Pohnpei Island in Micronesia was lost.

primary driver of this growth is sediment from healthy coral reefs, which waves continuously deposit onto islands. This natural process allows islands to rebuild and expand, countering erosion from rising seas. A 2021 study of 221 atolls across the Pacific and Indian Oceans found a 6.1% increase in total land area between 2000 and 2017, although this gain was partly due to artificial land reclamation in places like the Maldives and the South China Sea

23 minutes ago, Bandersnatch said:

You can see from the graph that there is natural variation year to year but the trend is clearly upwards

Good. Its too cold.

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

https://www.johnlocke.org/climate-alarmists-like-luxury-beachfront-property/

Apparently climate alarmists like beachfront properties.

https://www.propublica.org/article/obama-and-the-beach-house-loopholes

Obama's beach house, doesn't look 10m above water to me as @Patong2021 claimed.

That's nice, except that is not where the Obama's will live. The actual home is set back from the ocean. The original home built in 1960, on the ocean, and previously owned by Jim Nabors has been demolished. The natural setback was 5 meters. Work was carried out in the 1960's and later to protect the area from high water and to raise the elevation. If you ever watched Magnum PI, you will have seen the actual home elevation because this is the house that was used for the "Robin's Nest". A new home has been erected, farther back from the ocean and on higher land. The total location is 3 acres. The photo you posted is on work being done to the general estate in respect to the building of day use beach shelters, swimming pool, parking, security measures and revisions to land stabilization work that had already been done 50 years prior. This was all reported in the local news.

Just now, Patong2021 said:

That's nice, except that is not where the Obama's will live. The actual home is set back from the ocean. The original home built in 1960, on the ocean, and previously owned by Jim Nabors has been demolished. The natural setback was 5 meters. Work was carried out in the 1960's and later to protect the area from high water and to raise the elevation. If you ever watched Magnum PI, you will have seen the actual home elevation because this is the house that was used for the "Robin's Nest". A new home has been erected, farther back from the ocean and on higher land. The total location is 3 acres. The photo you posted is on work being done to the general estate in respect to the building of day use beach shelters, swimming pool, parking, security measures and revisions to land stabilization work that had already been done 50 years prior. This was all reported in the local news.

Do you recycle plastic bags?

19 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

primary driver of this growth is sediment from healthy coral reefs, which waves continuously deposit onto islands. This natural process allows islands to rebuild and expand, countering erosion from rising seas. A 2021 study of 221 atolls across the Pacific and Indian Oceans found a 6.1% increase in total land area between 2000 and 2017, although this gain was partly due to artificial land reclamation in places like the Maldives and the South China Sea

You are all over the place throwing out all sorts of out of context claims and hoping that no one will notice.

Yes, several coral reefs and atolls have expanded. One of the major reasons is because the Chinese have been building up multiple locations as it expands its military presence. In the case of the Micronesian islands, which is what you initially referenced, the land expansion is primarily through land reclamation projects.

In respect to the small amounts of land mass growth, it is not viable land because it is made up of sediments and debris that can just as easily be washed away in a large typhoon. The stark reality is that as the sea levels increase, the availability of clean non salt water decreases and as that happens, vegetation dies.

The carbon footprint of wealthy individuals, including those with progressive political views, is significantly higher than that of the average person due to lifestyle choices and investments.

• Lifestyle emissions: Even self-identified "green" individuals among the wealthy contribute disproportionately to carbon emissions. Their high consumption—such as frequent air travel, large homes, private jets, and luxury yachts—drives emissions far beyond those of the global average. For example, the average billionaire emits a million times more greenhouse gases annually than a person in the poorest 90% of the world’s population.

2 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Do you recycle plastic bags?

No. Repurposed, yes, but eventually gets burned with the rest of the trash.

Scientist can state all they want. Personally don't believe in MMGW/CC, as human input is so miniscule, not worth the notice or mentioning. Just a money / profits / tax grab, no more, not less IMHO

Apparently most don't believe it or care either. As never seen so much plastic use, since the effort to reduce it, just prior to the scamdemic, when use of skyrocketed, and doesn't appear to been reduced since.

The carbon footprint of wealthy individuals, including those with progressive political views, is significantly higher than that of the average person due to lifestyle choices and investments.

• Lifestyle emissions: Even self-identified "green" individuals among the wealthy contribute disproportionately to carbon emissions. Their high consumption—such as frequent air travel, large homes, private jets, and luxury yachts—drives emissions far beyond those of the global average. For example, the average billionaire emits a million times more greenhouse gases annually than a person in the poorest 90% of the world’s population.

  25 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

  This natural process allows islands to rebuild and expand, countering erosion from rising seas.

  Its natural though lol

Just now, KhunLA said:

No. Repurposed, yes, but eventually gets burned with the rest of the trash.

Scientist can state all they want. Personally don't believe in MMGW/CC, as human input is so miniscule, not worth the notice or mentioning. Just a money / profits / tax grab, no more, not less IMHO

I just laugh at these poor lefties. Rich lefties do whatever they want. The only ones too dumb to realise its a scam are poor lefties.

3 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

You are all over the place throwing out all sorts of out of context claims and hoping that no one will notice.

Yes, several coral reefs and atolls have expanded. One of the major reasons is because the Chinese have been building up multiple locations as it expands its military presence. In the case of the Micronesian islands, which is what you initially referenced, the land expansion is primarily through land reclamation projects.

In respect to the small amounts of land mass growth, it is not viable land because it is made up of sediments and debris that can just as easily be washed away in a large typhoon. The stark reality is that as the sea levels increase, the availability of clean non salt water decreases and as that happens, vegetation dies.

Buddy I read 100 reports after 2005. Its a political scam. Has nothing to do with the environment.

Rich lefties pump out endless co2 lol

1 minute ago, Harrisfan said:

Buddy I read 100 reports after 2005. Its a political scam. Has nothing to do with the environment.

Rich lefties pump out endless co2 lol

The amount of CO2 in the atmosphere is so minimal, and even more miniscule, is the amount humans add to it. The numbers are laughable, along with the thought of any need to reduce it.

Actually, suicidal to reduce CO2 ... from AI ...

Ignorance of those pushing less CO2 ... EXPOSED ...

2 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

The amount of CO2 in the atmosphere is so minimal, and even more miniscule, is the amount humans add to it. The numbers are laughable, along with the thought of any need to reduce it.

Actually, suicidal to reduce CO2 ... from AI ...

Ignorance of those pushing less CO2 ... EXPOSED ...

Yep lefties don't even know lol

Humans are so hopeless even Greta gave up. She's a heroine among us.

Some on here must have children & grandchildren. <deleted> 'em, eh?

3 hours ago, Bandersnatch said:

I live in the country where people don't work in air-conditioned offices but out in the full sun.

what country would that be ? Palestine?

10 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

3 non "earth science people" with unfettered access to the truth , who's position in life enables them to rise above the b/s and who have the intelligence to see straight through it

You forgot to mention that they are reptiles… 🙄

9 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

Former President Obama sold the home in martha's vineyard. It was above the high watermark and was not in a high risk flood zone. His home in Hawaii is a good 10 meters above the high water mark and is set back from the ocean.

Why are you making reference to him? It has no relevance.

Yes, the Ozone layer has started to repair itself. It is because of the worldwide ban on CFC and other ozone destroying chemicals. This proves that there ar positive outcomes when people behave responsibly. There was a time when lead was added to gasoline. Now that it has been removed, the recovery in the environment has been fantastic, and human phyysical health has improved remarkably. I suppose you are against the removal of lead from petrol too?

It’s too late, the lead has done its work on him and his ilk

5 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Humans are so hopeless even Greta gave up. She's a heroine among us.

Some on here must have children & grandchildren. <deleted> 'em, eh?

Sad brain washing. Greta is a halfwit.

1 minute ago, HighPriority said:

It’s too late, the lead has done its work on him and his ilk

Too late to unbrainwash old lefties.

8 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

Do you recycle plastic bags?

Ahh, look its deflection time.

You really are pissweak.

Just now, HighPriority said:

Ahh, look its deflection time.

You really are pissweak.

Another poor lefty who got conned.

Go choke on your cherries.