27 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

Name me one technology that does not pollute...

the printing press ? I mean surely your books are not part of the alleged problem

6 hours ago, digger70 said:

Believe that or not .up to you. Just my opinion .

Way too many opinions in this discussion.

Just my opinion.

Every year "professionals" predict house prices and stock markets and get it woefully wrong.

Yet we are ment to trust climate predictions as if they're meaningful.

59 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

Name me one technology that does not pollute...

i was under the impression that only stuff from the west pollutes, and anything made in china is totally benign Is that not true ?

3 hours ago, digger70 said:

Fact, It takes time to change it can take Thousands of years , So what you are saying doesn't mean Anything.

It's taken mankind about 300 years to change the carbon dioxide content of the atmosphere by 53% , when it was stable for the previous 10,000 years.

Do you have a problem with reading comprehension as well?

18 minutes ago, sidjameson said:

Every year "professionals" predict house prices and stock markets and get it woefully wrong.

Yet we are ment to trust climate predictions as if they're meaningful.

Economics is not a science. It's a grab bag of opinions, based on various analyses of human psychology.

The laws of thermodynamics are science. Good luck trying to beat them.

17 minutes ago, sidjameson said:

Every year "professionals" predict house prices and stock markets and get it woefully wrong.

17 minutes ago, sidjameson said:

Yet we are ment to trust climate predictions as if they're meaningful.

Stock markets bounce about in your selected time frame of a year but predicting temperature change and therefore climate change over decades is much more trustworthy.

I am waiting for the Global Cooling that was from my Generation. Until then, I will ignore all scientists.

3 hours ago, Red Forever said:

Is it purely coincidental that the deniers all seem to have bigoted far right views on all AN topics on other pages?

about as coincidental as all the bed wetting, self flagellating, lefties, virtue signalling to each other on every thread, Many of whom have obviously never ever set foot in Thailand and wouldn't last 5 minutes here if they did

28 minutes ago, Bandersnatch said:

Stock markets bounce about in your selected time frame of a year but predicting temperature change and therefore climate change over decades is much more trustworthy.

Do you have any idea why they do not just chart the actual temperature change?

On 2/15/2026 at 6:22 PM, bannork said:

Scientists are warning that Earth may be dangerously close to entering an irreversible “hothouse” climate state, according to a new analysis that finds key climate systems are nearer to collapse than previously believed.

The study, published in One Earth, focuses on climate “tipping points” — critical systems that can abruptly shift once global temperatures cross certain thresholds. These include the Greenland and West Antarctic ice sheets, the Amazon rainforest, Arctic sea ice, permafrost, and major ocean circulation systems such as the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation (AMOC).

Researchers warn that destabilization in one system can trigger cascading effects elsewhere. For example, melting ice reduces Earth’s ability to reflect sunlight, accelerating warming, while thawing permafrost and dying forests release greenhouse gases that trap additional heat. Together, these feedback loops could lock the planet into a self-reinforcing “hothouse Earth” trajectory marked by extreme warming and long-term sea level rise — even if human emissions are later reduced.

The warning comes as global temperatures have exceeded 1.5°C above pre-industrial levels for 12 consecutive months. Data from Copernicus Climate Change Service indicates that 2025 will mark the first three-year period in which average global temperatures surpassed the 1.5°C threshold. While the Paris Agreement defines this limit over a 20-year average, scientists say sustained short-term breaches suggest the long-term threshold may already be near or exceeded.

Lead author William Ripple said Earth’s climate stability over the past 11,000 years enabled agriculture and complex societies, but that stability is now rapidly eroding. Co-author Christopher Wolf added that current temperatures may be the highest in at least 125,000 years, with atmospheric carbon dioxide levels above 420 parts per million — the highest in millions of years.

The researchers stress that while preventing a hothouse Earth remains possible, delays greatly increase the risk of irreversible climate outcomes.

Key Takeaways

• Scientists warn Earth may be nearing irreversible climate tipping points.

• Sustained warming above 1.5°C raises risk of cascading system collapse.

• Acting now is far easier than reversing a future “hothouse” climate.

Scientists warn of risk of Earth becoming irreversible 'hothouse'

Did Mr Trump already responded to this study ?

38 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Do you have any idea why they do not just chart the actual temperature change?

here is another graph from 1961

8 minutes ago, oustaristocrats said:

Did Mr Trump already responded to this study ?

Yes

the Endangerment Finding defied science.

https://justthenews.com/nation/states/center-square/climate-and-energy-experts-praise-trumps-endangerment-finding-repeal

On 2/15/2026 at 7:11 PM, Bday Prang said:

I have a "bag for life"

Well...

Far better a bag for life than a bag for a wife.

This is not "news", of course.

Once again, I will mention Tim Lenton who is the foremost researcher doing important work on Tipping Points.

Everybody likes Tim.

If it's irreversible, does that mean governments will stop bullying us into switching to useless heat pumps and EVs now?

What's the point if it's irreversible now? 🤷‍♂️

42 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Well...

Far better a bag for life than a bag for a wife.

Could be one and the same?

1 hour ago, nauseus said:

Could be one and the same?

I meant: Far better a bag for life than a bag for a wife for life.

the tipping point to the far right

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GCnN5GJXYAExdi5?format=jpg&name=small

12 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Do you have any idea why they do not just chart the actual temperature change?

The current geological age dominated by human influence is called the Anthropocene and scientists are more interested in charting temperature anomalies since industrialization - the "hockey stick". There has been temperature changes before but what is different today is the unprecedented speed of warming.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_surface_temperature

13 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Arithmetic

One can argue it pollutes, but then one would also have to argue everything pollutes.

The way I understand it, "arithmetic" is an approach to technology, not a technology by itself.

And, yes, I say again, "All technologies pollute," I mean that, but am talking specifically about "energy technologies,” such as nuclear reactors, solar panels, windmills, tidal turbines, etc. They all cost more energy to create, operate, and dispose of than they ever produce.

13 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

the printing press ? I mean surely your books are not part of the alleged problem

Yes, printing my books and almost EVERYTHING I do is part of the problem. Why do I say that? Because all HUMANS are the problem, and I am a human.

13 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

i was under the impression that only stuff from the west pollutes, and anything made in china is totally benign Is that not true ?

That's not true. All technologies pollute, and technologies are made by humans - all humans.

6 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

That's not true. All technologies pollute, and technologies are made by humans - all humans.

Talk about missing sarcasm. Are you even real ? very sus.

2 minutes ago, blaze master said:

Talk about missing sarcasm. Are you even real ? very sus.

I notice and understand your sarcasm. I just believe this topic is very important, and I want to steer the conversation back to the real problems.

Just now, WDSmart said:

I notice and understand your sarcasm. I just believe this topic is very important, and I want to steer the conversation back to the real problems.

My sarcasm ? Good grief.. its not me its you.

Wow.

34 minutes ago, blaze master said:

My sarcasm ? Good grief.. its not me its you.

Wow.

That’s the best piece of sarcasm I’ve ever read on these forums! 😄Thanks!

48 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

The way I understand it, "arithmetic" is an approach to technology, not a technology by itself.

I think your understanding is incorrect.

48 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

And, yes, I say again, "All technologies pollute," I mean that, but am talking specifically about "energy technologies,” such as nuclear reactors, solar panels, windmills, tidal turbines, etc.

If you meant all energy technologies pollute, you should have said that.

48 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

They all cost more energy to create, operate, and dispose of than they ever produce.

You may believe this, but everything in your statement above is false.

1 hour ago, Bandersnatch said:

The current geological age dominated by human influence is called the Anthropocene and scientists are more interested in charting temperature anomalies since industrialization - the "hockey stick". There has been temperature changes before but what is different today is the unprecedented speed of warming.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_surface_temperature

That does not answer my question, but thanks.

16 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

But you are not a scientist.

Lefties know everything!