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Middle East Israel pushing for Iran conflict

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Does anyone here actually think a US war on Iran is in American interests? If so, how?

I say the common denominator in these wars is Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu is well known to have caused the Iraq war because of their WMD cheesy

Israel is the aggressor, taking all the land and want it all, due to their religious fanaticism.

The Israel lobby will get what it wants, despite 85% of Americans against a war. Stand up and fight , make America great again, cut all financial ties with Israel.

When and if an operation begins, Israel will want the US to go for broke,’ says Rob Geist Pinfold, international security expert at King’s College London

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/israel-pushing-for-iran-conflict-while-relying-on-us-power-experts/3839001

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United States of America with Israel as head of state.

2 hours ago, JimCM said:

Does anyone here actually think a US war on Iran is in American interests? If so, how?

I say the common denominator in these wars is Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu is well known to have caused the Iraq war because of their WMD cheesy

Israel is the aggressor, taking all the land and want it all, due to their religious fanaticism.

The Israel lobby will get what it wants, despite 85% of Americans against a war. Stand up and fight , make America great again, cut all financial ties with Israel.

When and if an operation begins, Israel will want the US to go for broke,’ says Rob Geist Pinfold, international security expert at King’s College London

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/israel-pushing-for-iran-conflict-while-relying-on-us-power-experts/3839001

More deception :

Link goes to :

Poverty is decreasing in Southeastern Turkey.

The poverty rate in the Southeastern Anatolia Region decreased by 2.2 percentage points year-on-year as of 2010, and was determined to be 11.5 percent.

3 hours ago, JimCM said:

Does anyone here actually think a US war on Iran is in American interests?

Absolutely not. I don't think an undeclared war of aggression by the US against any other country is in America's interests. However, it is in the interests of US billionaires who make bank by stealing the natural resources of the conquered country, and indirectly it benefits the politicians who get bankrolled by the billionaire class to keep the war economy rolling forever. Does it benefit Americans like you and me? Nope. Well, unless you hold a lot of share in the corporation stealing the resources that is - or - had access to insider trading data like most of Congress.

As the Jews are our masters, it matters not whether its good for anyone other than them

11 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:

It's time for America to completely cut ties with Israel.

Why? We are doing quite well under their rule

2 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Why? We are doing quite well under their rule

Who is we?

1 hour ago, JBChiangRai said:

Who is we?

The world

On 2/26/2026 at 4:18 PM, JimCM said:

Does anyone here actually think a US war on Iran is in American interests? If so, how?

Of course it's in American interests:

  1. Iran is developing long range missiles with the aspiration of being able to reach America too. Just a matter of time.

  2. Iran with nuclear weapons and long range missiles is a threat to the entire civilized world, not just Israel.

  3. The Iranian people don't want radical Islam. Tens of thousands of protestors have died in the last couple of months because they are fed up with being crushed under a totalitarian regime that violates human rights and morality every day.

  4. Removing radical Islam from Iran and replacing it with a normal goverment will not only liberate the majority of Iranians - it will also completely change the entire region. No more support for Houthi terrorists in Yemen, no more support for Hezbollah terrorists in Lebanon, no more support for terrorists in Syria (although most are gone now that Assad is out). I will bring stability and prosperity for the entire region, including US allies - which will benefit America greatly in the long run.

  5. Removing the radical Islamist regime from Iran will discourage radical Islamists in the US (and Europe). We are already at war - war with radical Islam - they have been conquering Europe by numbers. They aren't victims or refugees - they are there to conquer. At this point countries no longer have the ability to hide their heads in the sand - the conquerers aren't at the gates - they're already inside.

  6. Israel not only makes some of the best defensive weapons (anti-missile, anti-mortar, etc) in the world - it also one of the only countries in the world where they were actually able to test them under live, real conditions. That kind of knowledge is priceless, and it all goes into American defenses eventually. Israel gets the missiles - America gets the spoils.

  7. If Israel didn't exist Iran wouldn't just behave quietly. They would be going after other targets: American bases, allies, Europe, and anyone who doesn't fit their radical view of Islam. They don't chant "death to Israel" - they chant "death to Israel (the little devil) and America (the big devil)". Their goal isn't to only destroy Israel - it's to destroy Israel as a proxy of America - and then when they can go for America.

  8. Speak to any Iranian who isn't in Iran - nearly 100% of them hate the Islamist regime and wish to see it gone. The regime and radical Islam are EVIL and crushing them would benefit the entire world - not just America.

Did I mention radical Islam is evil? Are you even American?

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1 hour ago, PingRoundTheWorld said:

Of course it's in American interests:

  1. Iran is developing long range missiles with the aspiration of being able to reach America too. Just a matter of time.

  2. Iran with nuclear weapons and long range missiles is a threat to the entire civilized world, not just Israel.

  3. The Iranian people don't want radical Islam. Tens of thousands of protestors have died in the last couple of months because they are fed up with being crushed under a totalitarian regime that violates human rights and morality every day.

  4. Removing radical Islam from Iran and replacing it with a normal goverment will not only liberate the majority of Iranians - it will also completely change the entire region. No more support for Houthi terrorists in Yemen, no more support for Hezbollah terrorists in Lebanon, no more support for terrorists in Syria (although most are gone now that Assad is out). I will bring stability and prosperity for the entire region, including US allies - which will benefit America greatly in the long run.

  5. Removing the radical Islamist regime from Iran will discourage radical Islamists in the US (and Europe). We are already at war - war with radical Islam - they have been conquering Europe by numbers. They aren't victims or refugees - they are there to conquer. At this point countries no longer have the ability to hide their heads in the sand - the conquerers aren't at the gates - they're already inside.

  6. Israel not only makes some of the best defensive weapons (anti-missile, anti-mortar, etc) in the world - it also one of the only countries in the world where they were actually able to test them under live, real conditions. That kind of knowledge is priceless, and it all goes into American defenses eventually. Israel gets the missiles - America gets the spoils.

  7. If Israel didn't exist Iran wouldn't just behave quietly. They would be going after other targets: American bases, allies, Europe, and anyone who doesn't fit their radical view of Islam. They don't chant "death to Israel" - they chant "death to Israel (the little devil) and America (the big devil)". Their goal isn't to only destroy Israel - it's to destroy Israel as a proxy of America - and then when they can go for America.

  8. Speak to any Iranian who isn't in Iran - nearly 100% of them hate the Islamist regime and wish to see it gone. The regime and radical Islam are EVIL and crushing them would benefit the entire world - not just America.

Did I mention radical Islam is evil? Are you even American?

This post is built on fear, exaggeration, and several demonstrably false claims.

First - Iran has not started a war in over 200 years. That is a historical fact. The last offensive war initiated by Persia was in the early 19th century. Since 1979, Iran has engaged in proxy conflicts and regional meddling - yes - but it has not launched an invasion of another country. Contrast that with the United States’ record in Iraq in 2003.

And that brings us to the second major issue: the idea that regime change brings “stability.”

The last time the U.S. removed a Middle Eastern government by force - in the 2003 invasion of Iraq - it destabilized the entire region. That war:

  • Cost the United States an estimated $7 trillion

  • Cost thousands of American lives

  • Led directly to the formation of Islamic State (ISIS)

  • Strengthened Al-Qaeda in Iraq before it morphed into ISIS

We were told Iraq had WMDs. It didn’t.
We were told regime change would bring democracy and peace. It didn’t.
We were told it would weaken extremism. It fueled it.

Now the same argument is being recycled.

Third - the claim that “tens of thousands of protestors have died in the last couple of months” is simply not supported by credible reporting. Iran has brutally suppressed protests, yes - and hundreds have been killed in past crackdowns - but “tens of thousands in the last couple of months” is not grounded in verified evidence. Exaggeration weakens the case.

Fourth - “Iran is developing long-range missiles to reach America.”
Iran does have missile programs. It does not currently possess an operational ICBM capable of striking the continental United States. Intelligence agencies have assessed that capability as aspirational, not imminent. There is a difference between monitoring a threat and declaring war over a hypothetical future capability.

Fifth - the idea that removing the Iranian government would magically end regional militancy ignores reality. The power vacuum after Saddam Hussein is precisely what allowed ISIS to flourish. Collapsing the Iranian state - a country of 90+ million people - would likely produce:

  • Civil war

  • Refugee waves dwarfing Syria

  • Competing militias

  • Regional spillover conflict

History shows that destabilization often empowers radicals, not moderates.

Sixth - the claim that “they are conquering Europe by numbers” is demographic fear rhetoric, not strategic analysis. Immigration debates are legitimate policy discussions. Framing civilians and refugees as invaders is political messaging, not security intelligence.

Seventh - the assertion that nearly “100% of Iranians abroad hate the regime” is anecdotal and unverifiable. The Iranian diaspora is diverse. Many oppose the regime. Some support it. Others are politically disengaged. Absolutes like “100%” are propaganda language.

Now - is the Iranian regime authoritarian? Yes.
Does it suppress dissent? Yes.
Does it fund proxy groups? Yes.

But none of that automatically makes full-scale war or regime change in America’s strategic interest.

The question isn’t whether the regime is repressive. The question is:

Would overthrowing it by force make America safer?

Based on Iraq, the answer is far from obvious.

Strategic policy should be based on:

  • Verified intelligence

  • Cost-benefit analysis

  • Long-term consequences

  • Historical precedent

Not slogans like “radical Islam is evil” or “are you even American?”

Serious national security decisions require seriousness - not emotional escalation.

America’s interests are not served by repeating the most expensive foreign policy mistake of the 21st century.

8 hours ago, Yagoda said:

The world

Oh! I didn't realise you speak for the world. Who nominated you?

16 hours ago, JimCM said:

Iran has not started a war in over 200 years

Thanks for the laugh - I needed that!

16 hours ago, JimCM said:

Since 1979, Iran has engaged in proxy conflicts and regional meddling - yes

Tens of thousands of missiles and mortars fired at Israel directly funded and supported but Iran is not "regional meddling" - it's war through proxies. The Houthis would do nothing without Iran support (they wouldn't exist), Hezbollah would do nothing without Iran, etc. It's ridiculous to suggest that Iran hasn't started a war when they've been funding warfare in the entire middle east for decades.

16 hours ago, JimCM said:

Contrast that with the United States

Stop right there- your beef isn't with common sense or what is right - your beef is with the United States. As we speak the US and Israel are finally attacking the Iranian regime (not people), and the exiled Shah's son is fully endorsing it. The Iranian people are endorsing it. The only people NOT endorsing it are radical Muslims who are butthurt that Islam is not going to take over the world, after all!

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