18 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

I don't pay anything but I spoil her to death, it's OK she's young and beautiful, deserves it.

Totally agree. Spoil her to death - same reasons as you.

15 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

That's over $2000 Australian dollars , expensive party

I've spent more than that on a long weekend in Bangkok, excluding the 4 star hotel bill.

10 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

Why should I pay for my wife?

Silly pathetic view of partnership.

My wife got access to all my assets.

For me your question is shocking and at the same time disgusting coming from ancient times without any respect for your wife as being equal with equal rights.

It's a shame

THe wording salary is offensive to some. I easily can get past it though and not lose it. So how much of your assets does your wife use a month is what he was getting at but as Rocky does, he stirred the pot a little :)

I give my girlfriend 4,000 THB every week when she goes to the market; what she does with the rest is up to her.

I cover most, though not all, of the other expenses.

We’ve been together for 16 years now and things are still going well, she has 8 Rai of land where she grows a variety of crops

21 hours ago, Rockyroad said:

Do you pay a monthly salary to your partner?

21 hours ago, Rockyroad said:

Do you pay a monthly salary to your partner?

My partner get;s an equal share of the profits in our company....but my wife get's no salary but gets free accomodation and food and as much rice as she can eat and gets to sleep with the boss and she's happy with that.

21 hours ago, Rockyroad said:

Do you pay a monthly salary to your partner?

20 minutes ago, Andyfez said:

Totally agree. Spoil her to death - same reasons as you.

A friend did the same to his wife, 100k a month, properties, etc etc, she's now divorcing him for 30m+ baht, what did she contribute? mostly just opened her legs

Nothing except the power and wifi.

She is a teacher and has her own income.

My wife and myself have our own bank accounts, I have my money and she has hers, that's not to say that sometimes she spends some of her own money on me and me on her. It has worked well for 20 years now.

Good post/question. But I'd rather see what goes to her family.

For us, my wife gets a bank transfer just to have paper money, scan pay, etc.

She has a Chase Sapphire, and she can purchase whatever she needs.

We share the wealth responsibly.

I don't pay my wife. We have had a joint bank account for 40 years, supplemented every month by my pension payment, from which we withdraw money as and when we need it to pay bills, buy food etc.

My wife pays me to leave

18 hours ago, Rockyroad said:

Western women usually steal as much as possible. Hookers are cheaper.

Misogyny oozes out of every thread of this type.

"Western women", noted in a disparaging manner, is code for "failed back home, but Thai women are clever enough to see my value that those 'feministas' couldn't see. Plus I show them who's boss and keep them in line."

LOL!

If you failed with women "back home" then you're a chump in Thailand, whether you know it or not.

Didn't anybody ever work with successful woman back home? Back on the trading floor, I paid my female secretary $200K a year in salary and bonus. Even though her hubby worked for Goldman Sachs, she had no need to beg him for anything. The non-clerical women in my firm all made 7 figures in USD. Their partners or lovers were not in any danger of being scammed. Of course, they had expectations of the men they would consider as partners. They wanted an equal, not a patriarch or paymaster.

There are precious few female members in this Forum, but I suspect the ones who are here (e.g., mod Sheryl) roll their eyes seeing the constant misogyny and faux Alpha male-ness so many try to project.

Hard to believe as it may be for many here, there is no one size fits all, either of women---Western or Thai---or of men. Some women are manipulative and some are not. Some women are quite successful without any male's help. Thai women, as well as Western women, run the gamut of self-driven successes to manipulative scammers. Yes, it's tougher for a female in Thailand to reach the same career heights and income as a woman in the West, but in a relative sense many Thai women can be as independent and self-reliant as any so-called 'feminista'. They, too, want an equal, not a master.

It's more a reflection of the male in a relationship if he either gets scammed or proudly boasts of "keeping her in her place". Plus, if a man was a success, whatever amount he might shell out to make life as comfortable as possible for his partner in Thailand is a pittance.

A true relationship is a partnership. Nobody has to work to maintain control over something where both people should treat the other as an equal, perhaps adjusting as need be for life's inherent unfairness (place and manner of birth).

Just sit back and enjoy each other's company, and don't waste time trying to get the upper hand.

8 minutes ago, Wingate said:

I paid my female secretary $200K a year in salary and bonus. Even though her hubby worked for Goldman Sachs, she had no need to beg him for anything. The non-clerical women in my firm all made 7 figures in USD.

Why choose to live in a $hithole like Thailand?

19 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

I really doubt most expats "pay" their wives or girlfriends a salary. If you want to pay, there's a dedicated entertainment industry.

Yes, I bought our house 37 years ago. We have no vehicles. Although my wife was working, I paid for everything while I was working. Since I've retired, my wife has been the principal breadwinner and is making a Western wage every month. Now she's taking the weight, working sometimes 12 hours a day, seven days a week.

This shift occurred gradually but she told me I would never be without good red wine!

No vehicles? Are you Amish?

25 minutes ago, Celsius said:

Why choose to live in a $hithole like Thailand?

Do you ever post something that is not a troll? Lets look back a couple of months, not only living but investing in a $hithole.

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I'll be back in Thailand by the end of 2027. I will be fulfilling my lifelong dream of opening a 7/11 franchise. The real win though? No more stressing about getting old as a foreigner and getting denied health insurance. Once I’m in the system I’ll actually have proper social security coverage.

This is a great idea that will keep us busy while still having a comfortable life with our savings.

I assume you mean how much do you live on. I would say enough to have a very comfortable live.

1 hour ago, emptypockets said:

I've spent more than that on a long weekend in Bangkok, excluding the 4 star hotel bill.

I think you mean you have wasted more in a weekend.

13 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

See? I've never lied, but you can't accept that fact. You have never met me and know nothing how I am in person. My girlfriend is likely a lot smarter than you as she's college educated, and is happy she has a man that treats her better than anyone has before.

You forget I'm retired but yes, when i return I will also work to keep busy. No one here knows anything about you so you could be a lunatic that's escaped from an institution back home, and travels from village to village here without a visa. Evidence is needed or we can all do what you do. Assume.

Even though you and I disagree on a lot of topics, you have repeatedly shown yourself to be reasonable, very level-headed, highly intelligent and your posts are very well thought out. I think we need to smply ignore the nonsense on here and we need to ignore the posters who just spew hatred and vitriol, simply because they wake up on the wrong side of the bed every morning, and have not been able to find any level of contentment in their lives.

Edited 21 hours ago21 hr by spidermike007

34 minutes ago, Celsius said:

Why choose to live in a $hithole like Thailand?

This is an entirely subjective topic, of course. But some of us live very good lives here. Some of us have been fortunate enough to find an outstanding woman, who is delightful to be around, on a daily basis, always has our back, and is fun, smart, and lovely. For me, that likelihood of finding that back in the US, would be very low. So, that is a big factor for me. The second factor is just the quality of life. Sure, I miss alot of the culture back home. The theatre, independent film (which I can download here with no issues at all, and a super fast 1.5 gbps fiber optic connection, at under 1000 baht per month!), stand up comedy, live jazz, etc. But I have a lovely home that I rent, for about 10% of what I would pay in California, I live very well on an income which is not huge, have access to great health care, at a tiny fraction of what it costs in the US, and do not have to put up with alot of the aggravation that I had to when I lived back there.

It is a very personal choice. I have friends who seem to be dropping like flies. I could be dead next year. You just don't know. I am not extravagant, but I live very, very well. A nice house, a new car every few years, new motorbikes for my gal and I every few years, a great art collection, plenty of good wine in the wine cooler, a new 77" OLED TV, a world class home theatre, plenty of international travel, etc. For me, it is a great lifestyle, that I could only dream of in the US. Well worth the expense and very easy to justify. Life is way too short.

I have never been a person of extreme thrift. To each his own.

I used to have more issues than I do now. I worked on my attitude, which was getting in the way of appreciating Thailand for what it is, and was clouding my experience here. Used to stress over stupid stuff, as you can see from some of my past posts. Used to allow the politics to make me angry. Now it is not something I take seriously, just something I comment on, without anger or an emotional investment. Now, I just tend to laugh it off. Spent some real time back in the US recently, and it allowed some clarity and perspective, that I am very grateful for. Now, I just chuckle at most of the nonsense. Water off a duck's back, so to speak.

27 minutes ago, marin said:

Do you ever post something that is not a troll? Lets look back a couple of months, not only living but investing in a $hithole.

I missed that post.

He's part of the "angry ghosts of thailand" club.

When guys move back home, it doesn't compare to their life in Thailand so they become bitter and angry on forums.

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

Even though you and I disagree on a lot of topics, you have repeatedly shown yourself to be reasonable, very level-headed, highly intelligent and your posts are very well thought out. I think we need to smply ignore the nonsense on here and we need to ignore the posters who just spew hatred and vitriol, simply because they wake up on the wrong side of the bed every morning, and have not been able to find any level of contentment in their lives.

Oh please...stop it. Every now and then, you make a post that shows quite clearly that you do not have a clue. 😊

8 hours ago, Hummin said:

Everything is in your head, your mind, and your imagination.

Switzerland–Colombia is on now. Take a break.

Now the game is over, are you ready to tell all why you posted the pic or will you deflect and run away again?

That kind of behaviour to me, is one of a spineless coward. Take ownership of your behaviour.

1 hour ago, EVENKEEL said:

No vehicles? Are you Amish?

Elephant & buffalo under the house. Fundamental evangelical Buddhist Zionist.

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

Even though you and I disagree on a lot of topics, you have repeatedly shown yourself to be reasonable, very level-headed, highly intelligent and your posts are very well thought out. I think we need to smply ignore the nonsense on here and we need to ignore the posters who just spew hatred and vitriol, simply because they wake up on the wrong side of the bed every morning, and have not been able to find any level of contentment in their lives.

Agree. This is why I won't engage with them any longer and piss off other members who see topics go sideways because of their disorders. My bad for wasting mine and others time on those certifiable.

They'll never understand how they actually are, which is the main reason you just bypass their sociopathy and concentrate on normal members. One didn't even understand what I meant earlier and doesn't realize it sailed over his head.

They only want to drag people down to their level, which is a dark place to go. Not swift enough to see the joke's on them, and that others here realize where they came from as soon as they were called out. Both impaired from childhood, their only defense is deflections and gaslighting, and it's failed them all along, as now everyone knows.

Wait now for the inevitable deflections, thumbs down and cut and paste insults.

Edited 19 hours ago19 hr by fredwiggy

14 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Agree. This is why I won't engage with them any longer and piss off other members who see topics go sideways because of their disorders. My bad for wasting mine and others time on those certifiable.

They'll never understand how they actually are, which is the main reason you just bypass their sociopathy and concentrate on normal members. One didn't even understand what I meant earlier and doesn't realize it sailed over his head.

They only want to drag people down to their level, which is a dark place to go. Not swift enough to see the joke's on them, and that others here realize where they came from as soon as they were called out. Both impaired from childhood, their only defense is deflections and gaslighting, and it's failed them all along, as now everyone knows.

Wait now for the inevitable deflections, thumbs down and cut and paste insults.

Is this an example of you not attacking other posters?

2 hours ago, Celsius said:

Why choose to live in a $hithole like Thailand?

Because it's better than living in Serbia?

1 minute ago, BritManToo said:

Is this an example of you not attacking other posters?

3 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Not one to talk.

29 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

More deflection from the sneaky creepy dude. You aren't protecting anyone as I already know the truth. You aren't man enough to tell the truth. Always changing the subject, deflecting or playing the victim.

Tell why you posted the pic.

I am not answering your baits, or your attempts to frame the topic around me or anyone else you want to connect me to.

Your attempts at the psychological frame are weak and very easy to read. Everyone sees the pattern in every thread you appear in, so why keep pretending this is about honest debate?

57 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

Now the game is over, are you ready to tell all why you posted the pic or will you deflect and run away again?

That kind of behaviour to me, is one of a spineless coward. Take ownership of your behaviour.

Why do you believe the picture has any other meaning than me cutting some roses and picking some cherries in the garden?

It was a moment of positivity, something beautiful, with no hidden meaning. But even that gets twisted into something negative.

New day, new possibility.

29 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Agree. This is why I won't engage with them any longer and piss off other members who see topics go sideways because of their disorders. My bad for wasting mine and others time on those certifiable.

They'll never understand how they actually are, which is the main reason you just bypass their sociopathy and concentrate on normal members. One didn't even understand what I meant earlier and doesn't realize it sailed over his head.

They only want to drag people down to their level, which is a dark place to go. Not swift enough to see the joke's on them, and that others here realize where they came from as soon as they were called out. Both impaired from childhood, their only defense is deflections and gaslighting, and it's failed them all along, as now everyone knows.

Wait now for the inevitable deflections, thumbs down and cut and paste insults.

Read some buddhism books. You will benefit. Good luck.

3 minutes ago, Hummin said:

I am not answering your baits, or your attempts to frame the topic around me or anyone else you want to connect me to.

Your attempts at the psychological frame are weak and very easy to read. Everyone sees the pattern in every thread you appear in, so why keep pretending this is about honest debate?

Why do you believe the picture has any other meaning than me cutting some roses and picking some cherries in the garden?

It was a moment of positivity, something beautiful, with no hidden meaning. But even that gets twisted into something negative.

New day, new possibility.

Gardening is good for you. Get in touch with nature.