blanket statement is the uncle of carpet bomber isn't it.

All Iraqi's are terrorists. Carpet bomb the bastards...

A blanket statement cannot be true for some and false for others. It's an oxymoron of terms.

It's like stating that everybody in the world is male.

Oh, the 'oversimplification'.

blanket statement is the uncle of carpet bomber isn't it.

All Iraqi's are terrorists. Carpet bomb the bastards...

I read this in isolation and had not got a clue what you were on about...

Is blanket muncher the aunt of carpet muncher?

Fine.

'All religious people are morons.'

Not my opinion, but often repeated.

And as such, as we stated above, it must be valid to use.

I'm not spiritual

I can be.

But i dont drink too much spirits anymore. Beer or wine i'm ok. :D

Fine.

'All religious people are morons.'

Not my opinion, but often repeated.

And as such, as we stated above, it must be valid to use.

Ah, here lieth the rub.

Some religious people are morons! Some aren't!

im an agnostic, a tooth fairy agnostic !

im an agnostic, a tooth fairy agnostic !

Oh yeah? Well I had some major dental work done last week. Where were you when I needed you???

im an agnostic, a tooth fairy agnostic !

Oh yeah? Well I had some major dental work done last week. Where were you when I needed you???

let me guess, a holy tooth ?

555 sorry, my bad

by the way suegha, with all the replies so far I think you have yet to answer

how would you answer your question ?

by the way suegha, with all the replies so far I think you have yet to answer

how would you answer your question ?

Of course, I believe I'm a spiritual person, however, I'm holding on to my post until I think the thread is exhausted!

So you'll just have to wait and see!!!

by the way suegha, with all the replies so far I think you have yet to answer

how would you answer your question ?

Of course, I believe I'm a spiritual person, however, I'm holding on to my post until I think the thread is exhausted!

So you'll just have to wait and see!!!

er, why are you waiting until the thread is exhausted ?

tlw ?

by the way suegha, with all the replies so far I think you have yet to answer

how would you answer your question ?

Of course, I believe I'm a spiritual person, however, I'm holding on to my post until I think the thread is exhausted!

So you'll just have to wait and see!!!

er, why are you waiting until the thread is exhausted ?

tlw ?

As in, no more posters posting on it. I didn't mean it was tired!

by the way suegha, with all the replies so far I think you have yet to answer

how would you answer your question ?

Of course, I believe I'm a spiritual person, however, I'm holding on to my post until I think the thread is exhausted!

So you'll just have to wait and see!!!

er, why are you waiting until the thread is exhausted ?

tlw ?

As in, no more posters posting on it. I didn't mean it was tired!

hmmm.

ok then, why are you waiting until there are no more posters posting on the thread before you make your post ?

just curious.

Just to read all the responses and then decide what to post, some I'll choose to mention, some I won't! Then hopefully it will 'open' up the thread again...

I wrote a reply but it crashed out before I posted it so I wasn't sure if it was an omen or not

I was born into a nominally Christian (Church of England) family and christened as such simply because that was the thing to do in those days. Neither of my parents had any desire to go to church but occassionally (Christmas and Easter) we would be dressed in our "Sunday best" and dragged kicking and screaming of to church, not for any religious purpose but again because it was what people did then.

I was sent to boarding school which was a Christian and part of my education was religious studies. None of us took it seriously, less we be tagged as "church mice" which was a death sentence even for the kids who came from ministary families.

I left/ran away from home shortly before I was 15 and headed up into the top end of Australia. I worked in droving camps and got a job shooting wild cattle/buffalo/camels/horses/pigs/goats/cats and god knows what else until I joined the Army at 17 and 3 days (minimum age is 17) At induction I had to write a Next of Kin and Religion on the form. I forged a fake NOK and asked if I could put Nil Religion (NR) after a bit of a discussion as to why it was ok'd. It causes comment throughout my career because it was unusual and the fake NOK came back to haunt me when they needed to actually contact the person

In my 15 years of service I travelled to many countries including Afganistan, Middle East, Southern Africa, Somalia, and Thailand. I met and worked with people who were Muslim, Christian, Jewish, Buddhist, and Agnostic/Atheist. I met people who had the most amazing sense of religious enlightenment who clearly understood their purpose in life. I met non believers who were just as well adjusted. I met some religious zealots who I didn't trust as far as I could throw them and I met some right self righteous ar_eholes from all styles and breeds.

I have been coming to Thailand since 1978 and it has always made an impact on me. Sometimes I see Buddhism as a burdon especially on the poor who are tied to it by a ruling class. Other times I see it as their saviour and the mechanism by which they cope with their life. After a number of years I decided that for some reason I couldn't explain that despite its imperfections and anomolies it was a faith that I felt in tune. I started to study it actively and when I went back to Australia continued to do so. About 6 years ago I studied at Wat Umong in Chiang Mai and then at another one to learn about meditation and more about Buddhism. I discovered that I have absolutely no talent for Pali or Sanskrit. I am hopeless at chanting and can't remember the words used in dedications etc. After I went back to Oz I continued my studies at a Buddhist centre in Sydney and it bothered me not a wit that it wasn't Thai but actually Nepalese. Different but still the same. I wrote to the Abbot in Wat Umong and asked him if I could take up robes for three months. He refused because not becuase the didn't want me to do it or thought I wasn't serious but simply because the Wat was becoming a drop in centre for people who wanted to get a "taste" of Buddhism. The farung monks were becoming less monk and more "tourist officers". One of the farung monks there suggested that I may like to do my ordination at a smaller, less farung oriented monastry in Chiang Mai or Chiang Rai. Then I asked if I could be a forest monk. This is usually something done by experienced monks and very rarely by farung. Initially they said that it would be too difficult because of cultural and language difficulties. Then one of the mountain monks offered to be my guide and I agreed. I came back to Thailand and spent 5 months in the mountains eating one meal a day about every two days. It was difficult and absolutely one of the most amazing things I have done in my life. It changed my perspective of Buddhism and Thailand. When it was time for me to go back to Oz it surprised my training monk. We had never spoken about the date I was to go back and he assumed that I would stay.

I am not a particularly religious person but surprisingly a lot of monks aren't either, but I have a strong sense of spirituality and they most definitely do. I rarely talk or even mention my time as a monk and I think most people on this board assume I am Christian. I am not but I enjoy learning from people who make a considered view of their beliefs irrespective of what those beliefs are. I get a great deal of pleasure out of mine and I think that any religion or faith that adds to your sense of purpose is a benefit. Any person whether they are a practicing, non practicing, believer or not who understands their own morals and lives their life accordingly is in my humble opinion a very fortunate person.

CB

It really bugs me to read 'farung' and having to think 'he probably mean farang'.

I wrote a reply but it crashed out before I posted it so I wasn't sure if it was an omen or not

I was born into a nominally Christian (Church of England) family and christened as such simply because that was the thing to do in those days. Neither of my parents had any desire to go to church but occassionally (Christmas and Easter) we would be dressed in our "Sunday best" and dragged kicking and screaming of to church, not for any religious purpose but again because it was what people did then.

I was sent to boarding school which was a Christian and part of my education was religious studies. None of us took it seriously, less we be tagged as "church mice" which was a death sentence even for the kids who came from ministary families.

I left/ran away from home shortly before I was 15 and headed up into the top end of Australia. I worked in droving camps and got a job shooting wild cattle/buffalo/camels/horses/pigs/goats/cats and god knows what else until I joined the Army at 17 and 3 days (minimum age is 17) At induction I had to write a Next of Kin and Religion on the form. I forged a fake NOK and asked if I could put Nil Religion (NR) after a bit of a discussion as to why it was ok'd. It causes comment throughout my career because it was unusual and the fake NOK came back to haunt me when they needed to actually contact the person

In my 15 years of service I travelled to many countries including Afganistan, Middle East, Southern Africa, Somalia, and Thailand. I met and worked with people who were Muslim, Christian, Jewish, Buddhist, and Agnostic/Atheist. I met people who had the most amazing sense of religious enlightenment who clearly understood their purpose in life. I met non believers who were just as well adjusted. I met some religious zealots who I didn't trust as far as I could throw them and I met some right self righteous ar_eholes from all styles and breeds.

I have been coming to Thailand since 1978 and it has always made an impact on me. Sometimes I see Buddhism as a burdon especially on the poor who are tied to it by a ruling class. Other times I see it as their saviour and the mechanism by which they cope with their life. After a number of years I decided that for some reason I couldn't explain that despite its imperfections and anomolies it was a faith that I felt in tune. I started to study it actively and when I went back to Australia continued to do so. About 6 years ago I studied at Wat Umong in Chiang Mai and then at another one to learn about meditation and more about Buddhism. I discovered that I have absolutely no talent for Pali or Sanskrit. I am hopeless at chanting and can't remember the words used in dedications etc. After I went back to Oz I continued my studies at a Buddhist centre in Sydney and it bothered me not a wit that it wasn't Thai but actually Nepalese. Different but still the same. I wrote to the Abbot in Wat Umong and asked him if I could take up robes for three months. He refused because not becuase the didn't want me to do it or thought I wasn't serious but simply because the Wat was becoming a drop in centre for people who wanted to get a "taste" of Buddhism. The farung monks were becoming less monk and more "tourist officers". One of the farung monks there suggested that I may like to do my ordination at a smaller, less farung oriented monastry in Chiang Mai or Chiang Rai. Then I asked if I could be a forest monk. This is usually something done by experienced monks and very rarely by farung. Initially they said that it would be too difficult because of cultural and language difficulties. Then one of the mountain monks offered to be my guide and I agreed. I came back to Thailand and spent 5 months in the mountains eating one meal a day about every two days. It was difficult and absolutely one of the most amazing things I have done in my life. It changed my perspective of Buddhism and Thailand. When it was time for me to go back to Oz it surprised my training monk. We had never spoken about the date I was to go back and he assumed that I would stay.

I am not a particularly religious person but surprisingly a lot of monks aren't either, but I have a strong sense of spirituality and they most definitely do. I rarely talk or even mention my time as a monk and I think most people on this board assume I am Christian. I am not but I enjoy learning from people who make a considered view of their beliefs irrespective of what those beliefs are. I get a great deal of pleasure out of mine and I think that any religion or faith that adds to your sense of purpose is a benefit. Any person whether they are a practicing, non practicing, believer or not who understands their own morals and lives their life accordingly is in my humble opinion a very fortunate person.

CB

You know I think you're a cool guy CB, and it's because of posts like this. I wish we could meet (maybe one day, God willing, we will) and we could discuss our beliefs over a beer!

It really bugs me to read 'farung' and having to think 'he probably mean farang'.

If it bugs you then you should learn to read it as ฝรั่ง or perhaps avoid reading it at all.

CB

I wrote a reply but it crashed out before I posted it so I wasn't sure if it was an omen or not

<snip>

I am not a particularly religious person but surprisingly a lot of monks aren't either, but I have a strong sense of spirituality and they most definitely do. I rarely talk or even mention my time as a monk and I think most people on this board assume I am Christian. I am not but I enjoy learning from people who make a considered view of their beliefs irrespective of what those beliefs are. I get a great deal of pleasure out of mine and I think that any religion or faith that adds to your sense of purpose is a benefit. Any person whether they are a practicing, non practicing, believer or not who understands their own morals and lives their life accordingly is in my humble opinion a very fortunate person.

CB

You know I think you're a cool guy CB, and it's because of posts like this. I wish we could meet (maybe one day, God willing, we will) and we could discuss our beliefs over a beer!

Thankyou, normally I avoid putting up things like this because I think that my personal beliefs are my personal beliefs but I was happy to put in my two tuppence worth to the thread. You know you are always welcome in Chiang Mai, there will always be room at the inn that is Casa Crowboy for you. Would be happy to share a beer and talk to you about any number of subjects including our belefs.

regards

CB

Now that would be good. The same applies if you ever find yourself in the 'Pool'!

It really bugs me to read 'farung' and having to think 'he probably mean farang'.

If it bugs you then you should learn to read it as ฝรั่ง or perhaps avoid reading it at all.

CB

That wouldn't help since everyone around here where I live say farang. (Or the lazy falang.)

It really bugs me to read 'farung' and having to think 'he probably mean farang'.

If it bugs you then you should learn to read it as ฝรั่ง or perhaps avoid reading it at all.

CB

That wouldn't help since everyone around here where I live say farang. (Or the lazy falang.)

Those of us who can read it can also pronounce it correctly. However this is not part of the thread and consequently off topic. If you wish to continue a debate on the translitteration of Thai into English then take it to Thai Language forum.

CB

It really bugs me to read 'farung' and having to think 'he probably mean farang'.

If it bugs you then you should learn to read it as ฝรั่ง or perhaps avoid reading it at all.

CB

That wouldn't help since everyone around here where I live say farang. (Or the lazy falang.)

Those of us who can read it can also pronounce it correctly. However this is not part of the thread and consequently off topic. If you wish to continue a debate on the translitteration of Thai into English then take it to Thai Language forum.

CB

OR I WILL BAN YOU FOR LIFE AND MAYBE EVEN LONGER BECAUSE I AM BULL GOOSE MODERATOR...

It really bugs me to read 'farung' and having to think 'he probably mean farang'.

If it bugs you then you should learn to read it as ฝรั่ง or perhaps avoid reading it at all.

CB

That wouldn't help since everyone around here where I live say farang. (Or the lazy falang.)

Those of us who can read it can also pronounce it correctly. However this is not part of the thread and consequently off topic. If you wish to continue a debate on the translitteration of Thai into English then take it to Thai Language forum.

CB

OR I WILL BAN YOU FOR LIFE AND MAYBE EVEN LONGER BECAUSE I AM BULL GOOSE MODERATOR...

Not at all, I am merely trying to turn this thread back to what it is actually about which is "Are you spiritual?" If TAWP wishes to discuss the different translitteration methods used in Thailand then the Thai Language forum is the appropriate place and people such as Meadish Sweetball and Sabai Jai would be happy to answer his questions.

CB

if the OP (seugha) wanted to stimulate discussion in the thread he is referring to in the OP, he should have at least contributed his thoughts on the matter by now, and responded to some of the questions brought up by others - like clarifying the terms he used in his OP...

IMO

as it stands now, the thread has been dead for 4 days and moved halfway onto the second page...

OR I WILL BAN YOU FOR LIFE AND MAYBE EVEN LONGER BECAUSE I AM BULL GOOSE MODERATOR...

Not at all, I am merely trying to turn this thread back to what it is actually about which is "Are you spiritual?" If TAWP wishes to discuss the different translitteration methods used in Thailand then the Thai Language forum is the appropriate place and people such as Meadish Sweetball and Sabai Jai would be happy to answer his questions.

CB

See the laughing smiley-guy?

OR I WILL BAN YOU FOR LIFE AND MAYBE EVEN LONGER BECAUSE I AM BULL GOOSE MODERATOR...

Not at all, I am merely trying to turn this thread back to what it is actually about which is "Are you spiritual?" If TAWP wishes to discuss the different translitteration methods used in Thailand then the Thai Language forum is the appropriate place and people such as Meadish Sweetball and Sabai Jai would be happy to answer his questions.

CB

See the laughing smiley-guy?

Yes I did but I wanted to reiterate the point in case it was missed by anyone else

CB

if the OP (seugha) wanted to stimulate discussion in the thread he is referring to in the OP, he should have at least contributed his thoughts on the matter by now, and responded to some of the questions brought up by others - like clarifying the terms he used in his OP...

IMO

as it stands now, the thread has been dead for 4 days and moved halfway onto the second page...

Well, if you read this thread you'd think I wanted stimulate discussion on the 'other' thread, ie not this one!

I have, however, read this one with interest, and yes, I am surprised that this one is still going...

if the OP (seugha) wanted to stimulate discussion in the thread he is referring to in the OP, he should have at least contributed his thoughts on the matter by now, and responded to some of the questions brought up by others - like clarifying the terms he used in his OP...

IMO

as it stands now, the thread has been dead for 4 days and moved halfway onto the second page...

Well, if you read this thread you'd think I wanted stimulate discussion on the 'other' thread, ie not this one!

I have, however, read this one with interest, and yes, I am surprised that this one is still going...

so why not request to the mods that this thread be closed ? What purpose would you like to achieve by keeping it going ?

the "other" thread has been dead for 4 days.

if you really wanted to stimulate it, I think you should have participated in it a little more, instead of being active in a thread which was merely an announcement.

I agree with you Grover, I just have not had time to 'compose' my relpy to the other thread.

As for closing this one, that's up to the mods...