dave111223 Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 Note that there is no real point or moral to this story other than it being an interesting story. It is a commonly accepted fact at our condo building that the overnight security guards get wasted while on the job. The security company has been changed numerous times but this seems to be a continuing motif. Well last night was much the same as any other night. It was 4am and the security guard was downstairs drinking beer with some men who live in the building. The other men asked the security guard to go into the mini mart (located downstairs in the building) to get 4 more beers. Security guards goes in and says the "The guys outside want 5 more beers, they will pay you later". Security guard walks out with 5 beers and continues drinking. The time came to pay the bill for these remaining beers and the women who owns the mini mart requested payment for 5 beers. The guys said they had only asked for 4, and would only pay for 4. At which point a "discussion" ensued as to who was to pay for the final beer. The women in the store apparently wasn't happy with the outcome for this "discussion" and threatened to report the security guard. The security then decided that instead of paying for his beer he would try to punch the woman out, but in his drunken stupor missed and she ran into the building and got away. The security guard then turned his attention to the mini mart, which was locked, and started smashing all the plate glass doors/windows in. This took him awhile as he wasn't able to find a satisfactory tool for the job; finally he found a big metal chair and put it through the door. The whole thing was caught on video cameras that we have downstairs, and apparently the police he still looking for the security guard. The security company has offer to come up with the kingly sum of 3,000 baht to pay for damagers It is an interested situation when the people 'Protecting' you are more dangerous than the criminal. Anyways; comments or similar stories welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAWP Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 What do you expect if the job carries no requirement at all besides being able to dress yourself? And besides...how many people would volontary pay the higher fee to a security firm it would entail to have properly educated and trained security guards of high standard? The old saying 'you get what you pay for' is true for both security guards and chinese toys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave111223 Posted October 2, 2007 Author Share Posted October 2, 2007 What do you expect if the job carries no requirement at all besides being able to dress yourself?And besides...how many people would volontary pay the higher fee to a security firm it would entail to have properly educated and trained security guards of high standard? The old saying 'you get what you pay for' is true for both security guards and chinese toys. Exactly but i think this goes beyond "you get what you pay for". I would expect the guy to: - Do nothing - Show up late - Get Drunk - Not show up at all - Allow the building to be burglarized Vandalizing the property he is being paid to project didn't make my expected list of bad outcomes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAWP Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 You are correct. Not sure what the response to that should be...mai pen rai? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meemiathai Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 I am sure doctors and engineers in Myanmar or North Korea would be queuing for these high paid jobs in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamianMavis Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 We should not criticise and judge based on our "alien" values. Just because we do not understand doesn't make it wrong. This is their country and we have no right to second guess their actions. Remember we are just visitors here. Damian Mavis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meemiathai Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 We should not criticise and judge based on our "alien" values. Just because we do not understand doesn't make it wrong. This is their country and we have no right to second guess their actions. Remember we are just visitors here.Damian Mavis It seems you have learned a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meemiathai Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 Oh just curious, how many pounds does a security guard earn in the UK? What qualifications do they need? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkangorito Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 We should not criticise and judge based on our "alien" values. Just because we do not understand doesn't make it wrong. This is their country and we have no right to second guess their actions. Remember we are just visitors here.Damian Mavis This is a joke, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkangorito Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 We should not criticise and judge based on our "alien" values. Just because we do not understand doesn't make it wrong. This is their country and we have no right to second guess their actions. Remember we are just visitors here.Damian Mavis This is a joke, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkangorito Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 We should not criticise and judge based on our "alien" values. Just because we do not understand doesn't make it wrong. This is their country and we have no right to second guess their actions. Remember we are just visitors here.Damian Mavis This is a joke, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkangorito Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 Sorry about the triple posting...the internet was doing strange things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Clifton Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 4 guys couldn't chip in for 1 lousy beer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nidge Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 Oh just curious, how many pounds does a security guard earn in the UK? What qualifications do they need? I was a security guard about 15 years ago after leaving the military. All the guys i was working with were retired ex army. We worked an 84 hour week for 2.50 per hour. Thankfully i found something better after a very short time but others struggled on this wage for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plachon Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 One would also expect the richest man in Thailand who made it to up to PM, to be able to control his urge to dip his fingers in the till, generally trash the place with his cronies and avoid killing over 2,500 of his fellow citizens in the process; but no, irresponsibility knows no boundaries it seems. A thought just occured to me that maybe the traffic cop who had a bad day at work and turned all the lights to green and then danced in the middle of the ensuing pile up, got redeployed as Dave's security guard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prakanong Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 I am sure doctors and engineers in Myanmar or North Korea would be queuing for these high paid jobs in Thailand. How much does a Dr get in Burma? Now you have me interested so will ask my pal over lunch today who is a Dr from Burma but works in Singapore. He will gt a lot more now of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thai_narak Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 if this incident happened in the Philippines many people will die and get injured, security guards there are loaded with guns and shotguns... but then again, they are trained and will never do such a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suszzy Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 We should not criticise and judge based on our "alien" values. Just because we do not understand doesn't make it wrong. This is their country and we have no right to second guess their actions. Remember we are just visitors here.Damian Mavis nice one..!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikethevigoman Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 4 guys couldn't chip in for 1 lousy beer? Probably 4 scotsmen ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 Well, I understand that Blackwater Security in Iraq has had to fire quite a number of their guards, perhaps you'd like one of these rabid creatures from the shallow end of the gene pool guarding your condo!! That said, security guards here are a less than efficient lot. I've known people who have worked for security companies and they do have their hands full. The best one I heard of was a guard who was watching a Mercedes dealership. He was alone--or pretty much alone--got quite drunk, stole a brand new Mercedes from the shop, drove it through the dealership window and proceed to go for a ride hitting multiple vehicles in the process! Wouldn't you hate to be his supervisor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xyborg Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 <br />We should not criticise and judge based on our "alien" values. Just because we do not understand doesn't make it wrong. This is their country and we have no right to second guess their actions. Remember we are just visitors here.<br /><br />Damian Mavis<br /><br /><br />nice one..!! <img src="style_emoticons/default/wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="wink.gif" /><br /><br /><br /><br />We should not criticise and judge based on our "alien" values. Just because we do not understand doesn't make it wrong. This is their country and we have no right to second guess their actions. Remember we are just visitors here. Yes he should have given her a good kicking too. Quite rightly women are second class citizens in Thailand as well as many other countries. (sarcasm) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 Part of the point is that it's probably not a good idea to argue with drunks, although I must say, most drunks I know pay for their alcohol--otherwise, they won't get to get drunk there again!! In this case the security guard (and his friends) are both not very good drunks and not very smart ones either. Apparently this is a dangerous combination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmart Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 "Thai Security" seems to be rather an oxymoron in quite a few cases. They are usually the facilitators of most organized moo baan burglaries, and certainly the people the cops round up first... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naka Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 We should not criticise and judge based on our "alien" values. Just because we do not understand doesn't make it wrong. This is their country and we have no right to second guess their actions. Remember we are just visitors here.Damian Mavis Very strange comments ! What Alien Values ... Pray tell. Naka. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointofview Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 We should not criticise and judge based on our "alien" values. Just because we do not understand doesn't make it wrong. This is their country and we have no right to second guess their actions. Remember we are just visitors here.Damian Mavis Very strange comments ! What Alien Values ... Pray tell. Naka. As i see it the security buisiness in LOS is just a way of taking money from residents in return for an otherewise unemployable thia in a uniform. If anything happens on my estate/village you can bet for sure it would be something to do with the security gaurd. I couldnt guess wht mr mavis is on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pampal Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 When I was younger and living in Los Angeles, I worked as a security guard at the Packard Bell plant in Chatsworth for $5.50 an hour. Not really a living wage, and most of my fellow rent a cops were retired people who mostly slept on the job (graveyard shift 12 am-8 am). No one there could care less if someone made off with the factory and everything within. It is true that "you get what you pay for". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkangorito Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 We should not criticise and judge based on our "alien" values. Just because we do not understand doesn't make it wrong. This is their country and we have no right to second guess their actions. Remember we are just visitors here.Damian Mavis I couldnt guess wht mr mavis is on Mind altering chemicals perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awk Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 We should not criticise and judge based on our "alien" values. Just because we do not understand doesn't make it wrong. This is their country and we have no right to second guess their actions. Remember we are just visitors here.Damian Mavis I couldnt guess wht mr mavis is on Mind altering chemicals perhaps? Not knowing Mavis, apart from noticing some of his posts since he seems to share a similar fitness interest to mine, I think it would be a pretty safe bet, for those who need it spelled out, that it was a rather amusing paragraph of sarcasm. To understand that one also has to notice the brigade here that, all to frequently, eagerly speak up about how "if you don't like it here, go home!", in response to whatever well deserving or non-deserving complaint a poster would venture to put forward regarding <something> thai. A thai killed your hamster? Thai bank stole your money? Well, you don't like that, you go home! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DP25 Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 The guards in my current apartment building don't drink. They're all older guys, and I've only seen any of them drink on New Years. Old apartment block though, the guards were drinking almost every night. They were quite friendly and sometimes I'd have a whiskey or a beer with them. However, often I'd come back around 3 or 4 am, and the guard would be totally passed out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamianMavis Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 (edited) We should not criticise and judge based on our "alien" values. Just because we do not understand doesn't make it wrong. This is their country and we have no right to second guess their actions. Remember we are just visitors here.Damian Mavis I couldnt guess wht mr mavis is on Mind altering chemicals perhaps? Not knowing Mavis, apart from noticing some of his posts since he seems to share a similar fitness interest to mine, I think it would be a pretty safe bet, for those who need it spelled out, that it was a rather amusing paragraph of sarcasm. To understand that one also has to notice the brigade here that, all to frequently, eagerly speak up about how "if you don't like it here, go home!", in response to whatever well deserving or non-deserving complaint a poster would venture to put forward regarding <something> thai. A thai killed your hamster? Thai bank stole your money? Well, you don't like that, you go home! BINGO! Damian Mavis Edited October 3, 2007 by DamianMavis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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