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Was The Election Stolen?

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The Definitive Answer for all who continue to beat this dead horse!

From Salon...not known to support Bush in any way, shape or form... :o

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Folks standing in line in Ohio waiting to vote.

Was the election stolen?

The system is clearly broken. But there is no evidence that Bush won because of voter fraud.

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By Farhad Manjoo

Nov. 10, 2004 | Election Day 2004, like all national elections, saw its share of glitches, ineptitude, fraud, and intimidation. The Election Incident Reporting System,

https://voteprotect.org/index.php?

a national database of election irregularities compiled by volunteers working with various voting-rights groups, lists 30,000 such incidents for 2004. They range from the tragic (a voter who "didn't know how to read") to the alarming ("Two African-American voters were arrested at the polling place before they had the opportunity to vote").

There's little question that the American election is a mess, and needs to be cleaned up. But even if this particular election wasn't perfect, it was still most likely good enough for us to have faith in the results. Salon has examined some of the most popular Kerry-actually-won theories currently making the rounds online, and none of them hold up under rigorous scrutiny.

Check it out, boys, at www.salon.com and let's move on to a more fruitful topic? :D

No, the election wasn't stolen. Just a few thousand more souls around the world by the hand of the re-elected retard and his gang of Creationist thugs.

Not sure if I mentioned this, when George jr. was asked about if he believed in the theory of evolution, he replied, "I'm still on the fence on that one."

We should start a new thread devoted to all the brilliant quotes spewed from that tool's mouth.

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No matter how you cut it boys, the alternative to Dubya was far, far worse. :o

No matter how you cut it boys, the alternative to Dubya was far, far worse. :o

Braize the Man!

We could have had Cheney, prob'ly will have for the next 8 years after the current term.

(Don't even have to vote for him either, as long as das glorious guv'mint keep control of these lovely, programmable voting machines!)

Braize the Man!

Hey, can't wait for some REAL strong policies to be introduced.

Braize the Man!

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You think Bush is bad? Wait 'till 08 and we put Oliver North up for the highest elected office in the land. It's a shame Cheney's heart probably won't allow him to run or he would be a good candidate too but Ollie knows how to deal with those Commies! :o

Anyhow, as your denial is totally manifested in full-blown fashion, here's a little reminder of how it went down - the election that is... :D

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National Results

= State not yet called = State called for Bush = State called for Kerry

Candidate Electoral States Won Vote % Votes

Bush

286 31 51% 60,480,957

Kerry

252 20 48% 57,123,038

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Boon

I heard Jeb Bush will be running in 2008. Any truth to that?

No truth to it Padkapow. Jeb doesn't even want to run for Govenor of Florida again - he's sick of Politics.

There's a strong movement afoot to change the law to allow Arnie to run though. If the Consitution were to be amended to allow foreign-born folks to be President, Arnie would win - no problem.

I think he'd be good too... :o

Thanks Boon

I like Arnie to but I not in favor of changing the constitution.

It could open the door for some unsavory characters and I think we have enough already.

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Anybody but Hillary in 08'!

mbkudu! We agree on something after all! :o

Indeed, something about her repulses me. She epitomizes the cold, farang woman that most of us here shirk from. If Bill only had enough sense to ditch her and come on over to the LOS; we'd find him a good one.

If the Dems nominate her; it's all over for them, in a hand basket, done.

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Hillery (Hildebeast) is the representative of the Liberal Elite that the majority of Americans shrink from.

CONTEMPT

George Will notes how disdain for the judgment of average Americans has become a dominant theme in "progressive" thinking, to the point that some Democrats "relish interpreting the party's defeat as validation." Will connects this phenomenon to the culture of victim hood under which liberals implement their pet projects (or power grab) by positing an infantile American public.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6478819/site/newsweek/

I agree and perhaps the deepest urge of many liberals is to prove their intellectual and moral superiority. One of the ways they accomplish this is by eschewing obvious explanations for misconduct -- greed, cruelty, or (in extreme cases) evil -- as too simplistic. Liberals would rather identify "root causes," as if the basic motivations just mentioned are insufficiently rooted. And the root causes that satisfy liberals generally turn out to be flaws in America and its policies. Such liberals thus are able to trash the American public coming and going, as too simple-minded to focus on root causes and, ultimately, as the root cause itself.

President Bush can be viewed as the representative of this cartoon version of the public. No public figure seems less inclined to worry about the things liberals deem root causes, and few public figures have more vigorously pursued the kinds of policies that constitute the alleged root causes of our woes. No wonder they hate him. :o

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Hillary Sets Up Shop

There has been a growing buzz that Clinton is not wholly satisfied that she can run for the presidency as a U.S. Senator, and junior Senator at that. Lord knows it didn't work out so well for John Kerry.

But Clinton would find running for governor of New York to be perhaps a far greater challenge than some inside the Beltway might think, though with some potential, long-term upside.

"Her campaign would have to address the 'Will she run for president in two years?' question everywhere she goes, and she would have to answer it more honestly than her husband did back in '90," says a former President Clinton staffer. "That said, six years as governor of New York and then running for President certainly gives you everything you'd want for a résumé. There is a ton of political calculation there, but it would be awfully ballsy to pull off, and I'm not sure even the Clintons think that far ahead."

http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=7393

Man, you've taken it too far. I haven't got anything against her politics, well maybe some things, she just seems like a cold, snarling, humorless wench. I think the term 'hard on' has not been in her vocabulary for some time. :o

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Man, you've taken it too far. I haven't got anything against her politics, well maybe some things, she just seems like a cold, snarling, humorless wench. I think the term 'hard on' has not been in her vocabulary for some time. :D

Taken what too far? :D

Perhaps one could look at her in the following light - married to Blow-Job Bill who tries to screw every female on the planet - you might be a bitter old hag too.

Her Politics are of a Socialistic nature. Rather abhorrent unless you're from Scandinavia and parts of Europe where you're used to those high taxes and big government making decisions for you... :o

"A little patience, and we shall see the reign of witches pass over, their spells dissolve, and the people, recovering their true sight, restore their government to its true principles. It is true that in the meantime we are suffering deeply in spirit, and incurring the horrors of a war and long oppressions of enormous public debt... If the game runs sometimes against us at home we must have patience till luck turns, and then we shall have an opportunity of winning back the principles we have lost, for this is a game where principles are at stake."

- Thomas Jefferson in 1798 after passage of the Alien and Sedition Act -

Indeed, something about her repulses me. She epitomizes the cold, farang woman that most of us here shirk from. If Bill only had enough sense to ditch her and come on over to the LOS; we'd find him a good one.

If the Dems nominate her; it's all over for them, in a hand basket, done.

She would not expect you to compare her to the nubile lasses over here. If she were to run for president, I should imagine her cold, hard image would be a positive virtue in that context. After all, I voted for Maggie Thatcher, but would be first out of bed the other side if she was ever to try to jump in!

The politician at the top of the shitpile needs to be something of a hard b'stard. They would nopt get there if they were not!

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"A little patience, and we shall see the reign of witches pass over, their spells dissolve, and the people, recovering their true sight, restore their government to its true principles. It is true that in the meantime we are suffering deeply in spirit, and incurring the horrors of a war and long oppressions of enormous public debt... If the game runs sometimes against us at home we must have patience till luck turns, and then we shall have an opportunity of winning back the principles we have lost, for this is a game where principles are at stake."

- Thomas Jefferson in 1798 after passage of the Alien and Sedition Act -

Right...and what, pray tell, does the Thomas Jefferson quote have to do with the price of tea in China?

If you're attempting to draw some flimsy parallel to modern times and the War on Terror - it's a miss... :o

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Indeed, something about her repulses me. She epitomizes the cold, farang woman that most of us here shirk from. If Bill only had enough sense to ditch her and come on over to the LOS; we'd find him a good one.

If the Dems nominate her; it's all over for them, in a hand basket, done.

She would not expect you to compare her to the nubile lasses over here. If she were to run for president, I should imagine her cold, hard image would be a positive virtue in that context. After all, I voted for Maggie Thatcher, but would be first out of bed the other side if she was ever to try to jump in!

The politician at the top of the shitpile needs to be something of a hard b'stard. They would nopt get there if they were not!

Well good on you, p1p! Voting for Maggie was the right thing to do.

Between her and Ronald Reagan - what a team!

Don't forget who was there for you during the Falklands! :o

Indeed, something about her repulses me. She epitomizes the cold, farang woman that most of us here shirk from. If Bill only had enough sense to ditch her and come on over to the LOS; we'd find him a good one.

If the Dems nominate her; it's all over for them, in a hand basket, done.

She would not expect you to compare her to the nubile lasses over here. If she were to run for president, I should imagine her cold, hard image would be a positive virtue in that context. After all, I voted for Maggie Thatcher, but would be first out of bed the other side if she was ever to try to jump in!

The politician at the top of the shitpile needs to be something of a hard b'stard. They would nopt get there if they were not!

Wasn't old Maggie the one who made a mint peddling dope to London street kids?

The point here is that if she is nominated by the Democrat party it will be their folly. She is disliked by too many Americans.

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Is this how it feels, fellas?

Mass-Hysteria Time

Following Black Tuesday — Nov. 2 — Europe goes nuts.

President Bush's reelection has released a burst of mass hysteria in much of the world. It's a fascinating phenomenon. Hundreds of millions of people are convinced of the wickedness and stupidity of Americans and their president. The mood must have been similar when Peter the Hermit was whipping up the Popular Crusade in the Dark Ages, and later when the Albigensian heretics, or the Levellers of the English civil war, were drumming the idea of apocalypse into the heads of audiences eager to believe it.

http://www.nationalreview.com/issue/prycej...00411180820.asp

Back during the Crusades most common people could not read, so they had no idea they were getting ###### in the @@@ until it happened. Now there are nice things like the internet so most people, if they have half a brain, know <deleted> is going on. Then again there are people who still vote for imbeciles because they can relate to them.

Is this how it feels, fellas?

Mass-Hysteria Time

Following Black Tuesday — Nov. 2 — Europe goes nuts.

President Bush's reelection has released a burst of mass hysteria in much of the world. It's a fascinating phenomenon. Hundreds of millions of people are convinced of the wickedness and stupidity of Americans and their president. The mood must have been similar when Peter the Hermit was whipping up the Popular Crusade in the Dark Ages, and later when the Albigensian heretics, or the Levellers of the English civil war, were drumming the idea of apocalypse into the heads of audiences eager to believe it.

http://www.nationalreview.com/issue/prycej...00411180820.asp

I have changed my mind about gun control.

I think you should allow everyone in the US to have their own, personal nuclear weapons so they can nuke away all the Evil and Greed lurking out there behind the TV dinners in Suburbia. Since any lame-ass argument apparently will work on the public, I will start an organisation called NNA, National Nukes Association, and explain to people how important it is for everyone to have personal nukes. After all, if it is in order to form a militia and overthrow an unjust government that people should be allowed to carry arms, they need nukes. Anything else would not work against the present regime.

Buy the T-shirt.

Is this how it feels, fellas?

Mass-Hysteria Time

Following Black Tuesday — Nov. 2 — Europe goes nuts.

President Bush's reelection has released a burst of mass hysteria in much of the world. It's a fascinating phenomenon. Hundreds of millions of people are convinced of the wickedness and stupidity of Americans and their president. The mood must have been similar when Peter the Hermit was whipping up the Popular Crusade in the Dark Ages, and later when the Albigensian heretics, or the Levellers of the English civil war, were drumming the idea of apocalypse into the heads of audiences eager to believe it.

http://www.nationalreview.com/issue/prycej...00411180820.asp

I have changed my mind about gun control.

I think you should allow everyone in the US to have their own, personal nuclear weapons so they can nuke away all the Evil and Greed lurking out there behind the TV dinners in Suburbia. Since any lame-ass argument apparently will work on the public, I will start an organisation called NNA, National Nukes Association, and explain to people how important it is for everyone to have personal nukes. After all, if it is in order to form a militia and overthrow an unjust government that people should be allowed to carry arms, they need nukes. Anything else would not work against the present regime.

Buy the T-shirt.

Can I be treasurer? But can I suggest a small name change to PNA, Personal Nukes Association. Less likely to cause any kind of misunderstanding, especially when the "Personal" nuke is brought into operation.

We could have a quiet word with Kim and Khan to supply us!

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Well, now y'all know how it felt when Clinton was elected in '92 & again in '96.

This too shall pass... :o:D:D

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