Financial Crisis

[midas]

I wouldn't be propping up alleged rapist Assange as the white knight to set against Corzine. Both should be in the dock.

Corzine set up people who lost hundreds of millions, Assange was set up by two hired bitches!

Assange is a nasty piece of work. Don't buy the spin.

can you please elucidate ?

[midas]

He has been accused of rape and sexual assault. In Sweden.

He can defend himself in court. Interesting that some who consider themselves 'progressive' will jettison their sexual politics when it suits them.

Bitches and whores eh?

of course you are entitled to your opinion but the investigative journalists at

four Corners ( this is a highly acclaimed documentary program in Australia

equivalent to the British panorama)have been to Sweden, USA and UK and have come up with a

case which would tend to support that is indeed a set up yoshiwara?

http://www.abc.net.a.../19/3549280.htm

Edited August 20, 2012 by midas

[Naam]

I wouldn't be propping up alleged rapist Assange as the white knight to set against Corzine. Both should be in the dock.

Corzine set up people who lost hundreds of millions, Assange was set up by two hired bitches!

Assange is a nasty piece of work. Don't buy the spin.

i don't "buy" anything. this planet needs many more Assanges, albeit less stupid ones.

[canuckoverseas]

He has been accused of rape and sexual assault. In Sweden.

He can defend himself in court. Interesting that some who consider themselves 'progressive' will jettison their sexual politics when it suits them.

Bitches and whores eh?

The girls didn't accuse him of rape, rather that there was an issue with the condom and that they wanted assange to have an HIV test. Mind you, this all happened at a later date, after the girls seemed to enjoy their time with assange, cooking him food and otherwise treating him nicely, and not running to the nearest police station. This is hardly a capital crime worthy of extradition from another country. The first judge dismissed the case, which was later reinstated by a new judge. The whole thing is a wash.

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[yoshiwara]

He has been accused of rape and sexual assault. In Sweden.

He can defend himself in court. Interesting that some who consider themselves 'progressive' will jettison their sexual politics when it suits them.

Bitches and whores eh?

The girls didn't accuse him of rape, rather that there was an issue with the condom and that they wanted assange to have an HIV test. Mind you, this all happened at a later date, after the girls seemed to enjoy their time with assange, cooking him food and otherwise treating him nicely, and not running to the nearest police station. This is hardly a capital crime worthy of extradition from another country. The first judge dismissed the case, which was later reinstated by a new judge. The whole thing is a wash.

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The above just more of the spin BS. Both UK and Swedish courts have ruled that there is a case to answer. The opportunist argument that there isn't is just political expediency. From you and the rag bag of Assange supporters.

The judges said: "It is clear that the allegation is that he had sexual intercourse with her when she was not in a position to consent and so he could not have had any reasonable belief that she did."

The court also rejected Mr Assange's assertion that the descriptions of the offences were not a fair and accurate description of the conduct alleged against him.

They added: "This is self evidently not a case relating to a trivial offence, but to serious sexual offences.

"Assuming proportionality is a requirement, it is difficult to see what real scope there is for the [appeal] argument in circumstances where a Swedish Court of Appeal has taken the view, as part of Swedish procedure, that an arrest is necessary."

Edited August 21, 2012 by yoshiwara

[BlackJack]

He has been accused of rape and sexual assault. In Sweden.

He can defend himself in court. Interesting that some who consider themselves 'progressive' will jettison their sexual politics when it suits them.

Bitches and whores eh?

The girls didn't accuse him of rape, rather that there was an issue with the condom and that they wanted assange to have an HIV test. Mind you, this all happened at a later date, after the girls seemed to enjoy their time with assange, cooking him food and otherwise treating him nicely, and not running to the nearest police station. This is hardly a capital crime worthy of extradition from another country. The first judge dismissed the case, which was later reinstated by a new judge. The whole thing is a wash.

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The above just more of the spin BS. Both UK and Swedish courts have ruled that there is a case to answer. The opportunist argument that there isn't is just political expediency. From you and the rag bag of Assange supporters.

The judges said: "It is clear that the allegation is that he had sexual intercourse with her when she was not in a position to consent and so he could not have had any reasonable belief that she did."

The court also rejected Mr Assange's assertion that the descriptions of the offences were not a fair and accurate description of the conduct alleged against him.

They added: "This is self evidently not a case relating to a trivial offence, but to serious sexual offences.

"Assuming proportionality is a requirement, it is difficult to see what real scope there is for the [appeal] argument in circumstances where a Swedish Court of Appeal has taken the view, as part of Swedish procedure, that an arrest is necessary."

the position she was in was such that her face was in the pillow and Mr Assange did not hear her or he mistook the chook noises as enjoyment and therefore consent.

therefore there is no case to answer

[mania]

Recently on al-jazeera they replayed one of the leaked videos.

It was one where a US attack helicopter shot a bunch of Reuters camera men & then shot the

van with children inside when they stopped to help the wounded.

Pretty graphic footage & the conversations recorded with what the soldiers were saying before during & after the shooting

was pretty terrible.

My question is this, what has become of these war crimes?

On the other end we have what seems to be a girl friend,

since she slept with Assange many more times than once & never cried foul till this other leak occurred

It is also noted he is not wanted for questioning of rape but questioning of "sex by surprise" or "unexpected sex".

I have to admit I have never heard such nonsense terminology before. But it is fitting for this nonsense charge.

All the while we have documented footage of unjustified murder & none seem to worried about that.

This world is a very strange place these days.

[Naam]

He has been accused of rape and sexual assault. In Sweden.

He can defend himself in court. Interesting that some who consider themselves 'progressive' will jettison their sexual politics when it suits them.

Bitches and whores eh?

The girls didn't accuse him of rape, rather that there was an issue with the condom and that they wanted assange to have an HIV test. Mind you, this all happened at a later date, after the girls seemed to enjoy their time with assange, cooking him food and otherwise treating him nicely, and not running to the nearest police station. This is hardly a capital crime worthy of extradition from another country. The first judge dismissed the case, which was later reinstated by a new judge. The whole thing is a wash.

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The above just more of the spin BS. Both UK and Swedish courts have ruled that there is a case to answer. The opportunist argument that there isn't is just political expediency. From you and the rag bag of Assange supporters.

The judges said: "It is clear that the allegation is that he had sexual intercourse with her when she was not in a position to consent and so he could not have had any reasonable belief that she did."

The court also rejected Mr Assange's assertion that the descriptions of the offences were not a fair and accurate description of the conduct alleged against him.

They added: "This is self evidently not a case relating to a trivial offence, but to serious sexual offences.

"Assuming proportionality is a requirement, it is difficult to see what real scope there is for the [appeal] argument in circumstances where a Swedish Court of Appeal has taken the view, as part of Swedish procedure, that an arrest is necessary."

the position she was in was such that her face was in the pillow and Mr Assange did not hear her or he mistook the chook noises as enjoyment and therefore consent.

therefore there is no case to answer

and because there is no case we might go back discussing the global financial crisis

[mccw]

another one bites the dust

CIF the french lender is getting taken over by the government.

reteurs

[yoshiwara]

He has been accused of rape and sexual assault. In Sweden.

He can defend himself in court. Interesting that some who consider themselves 'progressive' will jettison their sexual politics when it suits them.

Bitches and whores eh?

The girls didn't accuse him of rape, rather that there was an issue with the condom and that they wanted assange to have an HIV test. Mind you, this all happened at a later date, after the girls seemed to enjoy their time with assange, cooking him food and otherwise treating him nicely, and not running to the nearest police station. This is hardly a capital crime worthy of extradition from another country. The first judge dismissed the case, which was later reinstated by a new judge. The whole thing is a wash.

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The above just more of the spin BS. Both UK and Swedish courts have ruled that there is a case to answer. The opportunist argument that there isn't is just political expediency. From you and the rag bag of Assange supporters.

The judges said: "It is clear that the allegation is that he had sexual intercourse with her when she was not in a position to consent and so he could not have had any reasonable belief that she did."

The court also rejected Mr Assange's assertion that the descriptions of the offences were not a fair and accurate description of the conduct alleged against him.

They added: "This is self evidently not a case relating to a trivial offence, but to serious sexual offences.

"Assuming proportionality is a requirement, it is difficult to see what real scope there is for the [appeal] argument in circumstances where a Swedish Court of Appeal has taken the view, as part of Swedish procedure, that an arrest is necessary."

the position she was in was such that her face was in the pillow and Mr Assange did not hear her or he mistook the chook noises as enjoyment and therefore consent.

therefore there is no case to answer

Let him argue whatever he wants in court. There is a case to answer and that has been decided by both the Swedish and UK courts. It is quite illuminating that when it comes to sexual politics the so-called left will drop their own knickers when it suits them. As far as they (and several contributors above) are concerned a case to answer is 100% disposable in their minds as crimes of a lesser importance. Reading the evasions a sight to behold.

[Naam]

another one bites the dust

CIF the french lender is getting taken over by the government.

reteurs

the problem is that most of the time, as in the case of CIF, there is no dust biting. Monsieur le président Hollande steps in, his hands in the pockets of the French taxpayer, et voilà... ça y est!

the CEO resigns, the French government will ask him to forego severance payments but... a shit he will do and most probably asking for his contractual golden handshake, a fistful million €URos

Edited September 2, 2012 by Naam

[midas]

they could have done this all along

Norway writes down 90% of populations mortgage debt. Why not here?

In 1997, Norway instituted Debt Forgiveness and “Wrote Down” 90% of the Countries Mortgage Debt.

It’s been done, documented, and completely hidden from the World, through the World Media, until 19 April 2012.

Complete and Total Censorship of anything Debt Forgiveness Related, World Wide.

http://www.oneworldchronicle.com/?p=5203

[yoshiwara]

they could have done this all along

Norway writes down 90% of populations mortgage debt. Why not here?

In 1997, Norway instituted Debt Forgiveness and “Wrote Down” 90% of the Countries Mortgage Debt.

It’s been done, documented, and completely hidden from the World, through the World Media, until 19 April 2012.

Complete and Total Censorship of anything Debt Forgiveness Related, World Wide.

http://www.oneworldc...cle.com/?p=5203

No such thing as 'forgiving debt'. It just gets shifted somewhere else. However the first in the queue to buy such a proposal would be Greece.

[manarak]

they could have done this all along

Norway writes down 90% of populations mortgage debt. Why not here?

In 1997, Norway instituted Debt Forgiveness and “Wrote Down” 90% of the Countries Mortgage Debt.

It’s been done, documented, and completely hidden from the World, through the World Media, until 19 April 2012.

Complete and Total Censorship of anything Debt Forgiveness Related, World Wide.

http://www.oneworldc...cle.com/?p=5203

It found that countries, like Ireland, that saw house prices and household borrowing skyrocket, saw a longer than average period of recession after the bursting of the housing bubble.

A large part of this protracted recession it said is due to households trying to reduce their debt levels, which in turn leads to less spending in the economy, driving the recession deeper and further.

“Because debt is acting as a brake on economic growth, it is important to unstick the brake” said the report’s author Daniel Leigh.

hihihihihi

it's like in Sritanja Hospital in Nonthaburi (mental hospital).

"heavy debt is a break on growth"

hear hear

but what was previous growth fuelled with? oh yeah, DEBT!

These idiots are now close enough to close their (il)logic circle.

First give free money to everyone through debt and create big growth with that, then when growth comes to a stop, erase the debt, create new debt, rinse & repeat as needed.

But who pays?

Those who get shafted are those who pay their bills and honor their debts.

[Naam]

they could have done this all along

Norway writes down 90% of populations mortgage debt. Why not here?

In 1997, Norway instituted Debt Forgiveness and “Wrote Down” 90% of the Countries Mortgage Debt.

It’s been done, documented, and completely hidden from the World, through the World Media, until 19 April 2012.

Complete and Total Censorship of anything Debt Forgiveness Related, World Wide.

http://www.oneworldc...cle.com/?p=5203

sorry Midas, that's absolute nonsense. yesterday the comment of a Norwegian friend was "how much Portwine in your bloodstream?"

[midas]

they could have done this all along

Norway writes down 90% of populations mortgage debt. Why not here?

In 1997, Norway instituted Debt Forgiveness and “Wrote Down” 90% of the Countries Mortgage Debt.

It’s been done, documented, and completely hidden from the World, through the World Media, until 19 April 2012.

Complete and Total Censorship of anything Debt Forgiveness Related, World Wide.

http://www.oneworldc...cle.com/?p=5203

sorry Midas, that's absolute nonsense. yesterday the comment of a Norwegian friend was "how much Portwine in your bloodstream?"

I have no idea who your " Norwegian friend " is or his economic credentials?

All I know is this is what Steve Keen Has been advocating for a long time and he makes more sense than all the other so-called economists put together

Economist Steve Keen is one of the few economists to have predicted the global financial crisis and now he says we are already in a Great Depression. He says the way to escape it is to bankrupt the banks, nationalize the financial system and pay off people's debt. He admits what he is advocating is radical but says it is time governments gave money to debtors to pay down debt instead of to creditors such as banks who have held onto it

http://geraldcelente...steve-keen.html

Edited September 3, 2012 by midas

[Naam]

they could have done this all along

Norway writes down 90% of populations mortgage debt. Why not here?

In 1997, Norway instituted Debt Forgiveness and “Wrote Down” 90% of the Countries Mortgage Debt.

It’s been done, documented, and completely hidden from the World, through the World Media, until 19 April 2012.

Complete and Total Censorship of anything Debt Forgiveness Related, World Wide.

http://www.oneworldc...cle.com/?p=5203

sorry Midas, that's absolute nonsense. yesterday the comment of a Norwegian friend was "how much Portwine in your bloodstream?"

I have no idea who your " Norwegian friend " is or his economic credentials?

All I know is this is what Steve Keen Has been advocating for a long time and he makes more sense than all the other so-called economists put together

Economist Steve Keen is one of the few economists to have predicted the global financial crisis and now he says we are already in a Great Depression. He says the way to escape it is to bankrupt the banks, nationalize the financial system and pay off people's debt. He admits what he is advocating is radical but says it is time governments gave money to debtors to pay down debt instead of to creditors such as banks who have held onto it

http://geraldcelente...steve-keen.html

my Norwegian friend lives (surprise!) in Norway, "owns" a home in a suburb of Oslo which he bought in 1989 and has still 7 years to go till the mortgage is paid back to own his home free and clear. i'm sure he does not care who Steve Keen is and what Steve Keen thinks.

personally i think that anybody who advcocates that a nation/country pays off his citizens debt is a clownish dreamer and not an economist. to arrive at that conclusion only simple logic and common sense is required.

[Naam]

It’s been done, documented...

where is it documented?

[midas]

sorry Midas, that's absolute nonsense. yesterday the comment of a Norwegian friend was "how much Portwine in your bloodstream?"

I have no idea who your " Norwegian friend " is or his economic credentials?

All I know is this is what Steve Keen Has been advocating for a long time and he makes more sense than all the other so-called economists put together

Economist Steve Keen is one of the few economists to have predicted the global financial crisis and now he says we are already in a Great Depression. He says the way to escape it is to bankrupt the banks, nationalize the financial system and pay off people's debt. He admits what he is advocating is radical but says it is time governments gave money to debtors to pay down debt instead of to creditors such as banks who have held onto it

http://geraldcelente...steve-keen.html

my Norwegian friend lives (surprise!) in Norway, "owns" a home in a suburb of Oslo which he bought in 1989 and has still 7 years to go till the mortgage is paid back to own his home free and clear. i'm sure he does not care who Steve Keen is and what Steve Keen thinks.

personally i think that anybody who advcocates that a nation/country pays off his citizens debt is a clownish dreamer and not an economist. to arrive at that conclusion only simple logic and common sense is required.

no more of a clownish dreamer than those who believe the status quo can be maintained indefinitely

[Naam]

no more of a clownish dreamer than those who believe the status quo can be maintained indefinitely

do you know somebody who believes that and if yes will it verify the "Norway mortgage fairy tale"?

[midas]

It’s been done, documented...

where is it documented?

http://truedemocracyparty.net/2012/04/case-for-mortgage-debt-forgiveness/

[midas]

no more of a clownish dreamer than those who believe the status quo can be maintained indefinitely

do you know somebody who believes that and if yes will it verify the "Norway mortgage fairy tale"?

it's not a fairytale

http://www.rte.ie/news/av/2012/0419/media-3261751.html#

[Naam]

no more of a clownish dreamer than those who believe the status quo can be maintained indefinitely

do you know somebody who believes that and if yes will it verify the "Norway mortgage fairy tale"?

it's not a fairytale

http://www.rte.ie/ne...a-3261751.html#

look at the distorted details and realise it's not only a fairy tale but a bullshitting fairy tale (documented).

here's the beef:

-One of the speakers today will be a lawyer from Norway. It suffered a similar housing and personal debt crisis in the early 1990s and brought in legislation to include mortgage arrears in out of court debt settlements.

-ALLOWING people to write-down some of their mortgage debts was advocated yesterday as a way to deal with the housing and personal debt crisis.

-“By 1993, house prices were down between 50 and 70 per cent. It was more or less the same type of problem you are facing here now.”

Bringing in a debt settlement act that year, to a country with a high rate of home ownership, Norway made the case for including mortgage debt in its new personal insolvency laws.

[midas]

a pretty bleak picture of the euro zone from two American newspapers

Fears Rising, Spaniards Pull Out Their Cash and Get Out of Spain

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/04/business/global/money-and-people-leave-spain-as-economic-gloom-deepens.html?_r=3&pagewanted=1&seid=auto&smid=tw-nytimes

Bulgaria Shelves Plans to Join Ailing Euro Bloc

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390443759504577629323056333022.html?mod=WSJEurope_hpp_MIDDLETopStories

[manarak]

a pretty bleak picture of the euro zone from two American newspapers

Fears Rising, Spaniards Pull Out Their Cash and Get Out of Spain

http://www.nytimes.c...smid=tw-nytimes

Bulgaria Shelves Plans to Join Ailing Euro Bloc

http://online.wsj.co...IDDLETopStories

Is that the news that causes a new spike in gold right now?

[yoshiwara]

no more of a clownish dreamer than those who believe the status quo can be maintained indefinitely

do you know somebody who believes that and if yes will it verify the "Norway mortgage fairy tale"?

it's not a fairytale

http://www.rte.ie/ne...a-3261751.html#

It is if the best reference you can come up with is from some uber-right-wing website

[KeyserSoze01]

they could have done this all along

Norway writes down 90% of populations mortgage debt. Why not here?

In 1997, Norway instituted Debt Forgiveness and “Wrote Down” 90% of the Countries Mortgage Debt.

It’s been done, documented, and completely hidden from the World, through the World Media, until 19 April 2012.

Complete and Total Censorship of anything Debt Forgiveness Related, World Wide.

http://www.oneworldc...cle.com/?p=5203

sorry Midas, that's absolute nonsense. yesterday the comment of a Norwegian friend was "how much Portwine in your bloodstream?"

I have no idea who your " Norwegian friend " is or his economic credentials?

All I know is this is what Steve Keen Has been advocating for a long time and he makes more sense than all the other so-called economists put together

http://geraldcelente...steve-keen.html

my Norwegian friend lives (surprise!) in Norway, "owns" a home in a suburb of Oslo which he bought in 1989 and has still 7 years to go till the mortgage is paid back to own his home free and clear. i'm sure he does not care who Steve Keen is and what Steve Keen thinks.

personally i think that anybody who advcocates that a nation/country pays off his citizens debt is a clownish dreamer and not an economist. to arrive at that conclusion only simple logic and common sense is required.

Sounds a bit like Obama pandering to the lowest common denominator to get re-elected.

Can you say "socialism" with a capital S.

[KeyserSoze01]

I just noticed that the Steve Keen reference is on the Gerald Celente website. The most vocal advocate of financial armageddon in 2008. In other words, the emperor has not clothes, zero credibility and is a laughing stock at this point. Anyone that puts faith in anything that this man reports or advocates falls in the same boat.

[midas]

I just noticed that the Steve Keen reference is on the Gerald Celente website. The most vocal advocate of financial armageddon in 2008. In other words, the emperor has not clothes, zero credibility and is a laughing stock at this point. Anyone that puts faith in anything that this man reports or advocates falls in the same boat.

but Gerald Celente has been correct on so many occasions?

[yoshiwara]

Gerald Celente is the the type of fruitcake who appears as a guest on fruitcake presenter Glenn Beck's show.

Which he does.