Shearer Takes Control At Newcastle

[MSingh]

I thought it was Holloway with the bouncebackability. . .

Anyway the cartoon army just get more of a running joke everyday - they employ a totally unqualified and untrained manager and all of a sudden in the eyes of the media they are world beaters!

Hopefully Chelsea will give them a thrashing at the weekend and we can then put them even deeper into the bottom 3 the following week. Then hopefully they slip out the trapdoor and into administration - I really have grown a deep seated hatred with all the 'too big to be relegated', 'the premiership needs newcastle' and whatever other cliched crap is being rolled out.

I'll be over the moon if your Mob stay up at their expense & i tell you what, THIS is the weekend that you must get your first Away win Mr Tech, without a doubt...

[StevieH]

I thought it was Holloway with the bouncebackability. . .

Anyway the cartoon army just get more of a running joke everyday - they employ a totally unqualified and untrained manager and all of a sudden in the eyes of the media they are world beaters!

Hopefully Chelsea will give them a thrashing at the weekend and we can then put them even deeper into the bottom 3 the following week. Then hopefully they slip out the trapdoor and into administration - I really have grown a deep seated hatred with all the 'too big to be relegated', 'the premiership needs newcastle' and whatever other cliched crap is being rolled out.

it was dowie apparently: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?...uncebackability

think holloway was the one about an away draw being like pulling a girl at a club, succeeding in getting her back to yours only to wake up next morning and find she wasn't really the looker you thought she was the night before.

[MSingh]

I thought it was Holloway with the bouncebackability. . .

Anyway the cartoon army just get more of a running joke everyday - they employ a totally unqualified and untrained manager and all of a sudden in the eyes of the media they are world beaters!

Hopefully Chelsea will give them a thrashing at the weekend and we can then put them even deeper into the bottom 3 the following week. Then hopefully they slip out the trapdoor and into administration - I really have grown a deep seated hatred with all the 'too big to be relegated', 'the premiership needs newcastle' and whatever other cliched crap is being rolled out.

it was dowie apparently: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?...uncebackability

think holloway was the one about an away draw being like pulling a girl at a club, succeeding in getting her back to yours only to wake up next morning and find she wasn't really the looker you thought she was the night before.

Holloway's done some absolute classic's down the Years....

[mrtoad]

it's actually a really shithouse move by shearer this, he can't lose. they go down, he joined them too late etc and he walks away. if they stay up he's the second coming of the lord. where was he when they really wanted him, post-keegan?

Yes, my thought exactly. He can't lose on this one, but he will certainly enhance his reputation if he can make a fight of it. The only person that is going to benefit from this appointment is Alan Shearer.

[technocracy]

I'll be over the moon if your Mob stay up at their expense & i tell you what, THIS is the weekend that you must get your first Away win Mr Tech, without a doubt...

I am EXTREMELY positive we'll get that elusive away win this weekend!

[sanmiguel]

they employ a totally unqualified and untrained manager and all of a sudden in the eyes of the media they are world beaters!

And you think some formal qualification from UEFA makes the blindest bit off difference?

20 years involvement in a pro football isnt a bad grounding, besides Cloughy only had 10, in your world he wouldnt have got a start.

Who said they were world beaters, or did you just make that up all by your self?

Edited April 2, 2009 by sanmiguel

[sanmiguel]

it's actually a really shithouse move by shearer this, he can't lose. they go down, he joined them too late etc and he walks away. if they stay up he's the second coming of the lord. where was he when they really wanted him, post-keegan?

After Keegan left Ashley put the club up for sale, hardly the best time to take your first managerial role, but dont let that minor fact get in the way of your inside knowledge.

How can you questions Alan Shearers loyalty not 1 sane Newcastle fan thought it would be wise for anyone to take the job under this current regime when they were up for sale ............. do you ring talksports by any chance?

Yes, my thought exactly. He can't lose on this one, but he will certainly enhance his reputation if he can make a fight of it. The only person that is going to benefit from this appointment is Alan Shearer.

He can lose because he is a Newcastle fan and will be gutted if they go down, and if he keeps them up which Hughton wont be able to manage then the fans will win ..... again a perfect bit of talksport esq football chat from you.

Its people such as most on here, and the southern press that seem to like to make up <deleted> Messiah, quotes, no one from Newcastle comes out with sh7t like that.

And Dowies his mate from when they were at Southampton, maybe no ones has called into talksport to inform you nepotism is rife in football.

If i was in Ashleys position on March 31st 2009 and was about to have 50 million wiped of the value of my football club i'd do exactly as he has this time, i'm not too sure how anyone on here can say anything other then its the best thing he could have done.

Edited April 2, 2009 by sanmiguel

[technocracy]

they employ a totally unqualified and untrained manager and all of a sudden in the eyes of the media they are world beaters!

And you think some formal qualification from UEFA makes the blindest bit off difference?

20 years involvement in a pro football isnt a bad grounding, besides Cloughy only had 10, in your world he wouldnt have got a start.

Who said they were world beaters, or did you just make that up all by your self?

No but inreality there is actual things called 'qualification requirements' for managing in the Premier League - something which yet ANOTHER cartoon army manager doesn't have. No one appears to have mentioned if the Premier League have given him clearance to manage the club.

World beaters - sorry slighty saracastic that should be England beaters . . suddenly the media on my fronts are expecting that they'll beat Chelsea and easily then beat us (Stoke) the following week and onward to safety they go! So in the space of a day a team of under performing, over paided renegades have sudden been united and will waltz up the league - be serious!

[bkkjames]

it's actually a really shithouse move by shearer this, he can't lose. they go down, he joined them too late etc and he walks away. if they stay up he's the second coming of the lord. where was he when they really wanted him, post-keegan?

After Keegan left Ashley put the club up for sale, hardly the best time to take your first managerial role, but dont let that minor fact get in the way of your inside knowledge.

How can you questions Alan Shearers loyalty not 1 sane Newcastle fan thought it would be wise for anyone to take the job under this current regime when they were up for sale ............. do you ring talksports by any chance?

Yes, my thought exactly. He can't lose on this one, but he will certainly enhance his reputation if he can make a fight of it. The only person that is going to benefit from this appointment is Alan Shearer.

He can lose because he is a Newcastle fan and will be gutted if they go down, and if he keeps them up which Hughton wont be able to manage then the fans will win ..... again a perfect bit of talksport esq football chat from you.

Its people such as most on here, and the southern press that seem to like to make up <deleted> Messiah, quotes, no one from Newcastle comes out with sh7t like that.

And Dowies his mate from when they were at Southampton, maybe no ones has called into talksport to inform you nepotism is rife in football.

If i was in Ashleys position on March 31st 2009 and was about to have 50 million wiped of the value of my football club i'd do exactly as he has this time, i'm not too sure how anyone on here can say anything other then its the best thing he could have done.

Time will tell if he can save it. Problem is as I see it, the injury list Castle has won't get any better with him in charge. Alot of people are saying they will give Chelsea a run this weekend. Well they will surely come out gangbusters, if Chelsea manage to hold them off for the first 20 mins, then I don't see you getting anything out of the game.

[patklang]

Unless this whole thing is one big April Fools Joke, he's brang in Ex Charlton Manager Iain Dowie to his Coaching Staff, honestly...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/t...ted/7975700.stm

Ay up Khun Singh

If this is true,could be bad news for Stoke City,because Shearer could bring some positive things to the Toon.Having said that somebody mentioned 6 points for Newcastle due to their bad run in and that was being positive.We dont have a scary run in but hope we dont need one point going into the last match with Arsenal away.Think we will be safe by then,and attack Arsenal as we owe them a good kicking for their lies when we played them at home and kicked their ass.

[patklang]

they employ a totally unqualified and untrained manager and all of a sudden in the eyes of the media they are world beaters!

And you think some formal qualification from UEFA makes the blindest bit off difference?

20 years involvement in a pro football isnt a bad grounding, besides Cloughy only had 10, in your world he wouldnt have got a start.

Who said they were world beaters, or did you just make that up all by your self?

No but inreality there is actual things called 'qualification requirements' for managing in the Premier League - something which yet ANOTHER cartoon army manager doesn't have. No one appears to have mentioned if the Premier League have given him clearance to manage the club.

World beaters - sorry slighty saracastic that should be England beaters . . suddenly the media on my fronts are expecting that they'll beat Chelsea and easily then beat us (Stoke) the following week and onward to safety they go! So in the space of a day a team of under performing, over paided renegades have sudden been united and will waltz up the league - be serious!

Typical Stokie,always in the real world hehehehe.

GOARRRRRRRRN STOKE

WELCOME TO THE BEAR PIT THIS IS GONNA HURT

[StevieH]

After Keegan left Ashley put the club up for sale, hardly the best time to take your first managerial role, but dont let that minor fact get in the way of your inside knowledge.

How can you questions Alan Shearers loyalty not 1 sane Newcastle fan thought it would be wise for anyone to take the job under this current regime when they were up for sale ............. do you ring talksports by any chance?

the club is still up for sale now. i've never met many sane newcastle fans, just mostly deluded ones. and i've never even listened to talksport as it goes let alone rung it.

[technocracy]

i've never met many sane newcastle fans, just mostly deluded ones.

Very oddly that's my experience of N'castle fans also!

[samuibeachcomber]

8 games is not long to save newcastle........................but watch out chelsea!

[bkkjames]

i've never met many sane newcastle fans, just mostly deluded ones.

Very oddly that's my experience of N'castle fans also!

I would probably be the same if I supported that circus too!

[sanmiguel]

No one appears to have mentioned if the Premier League have given him clearance to manage the club.

You can work in the Premier League for less then 3 months without qualitifcation, he does have 2 of the 3 needed. When Roeder took over Shearer worked as his assistant and they went on that unbelieveable run which saw them qualify for Europe.

suddenly the media on my fronts are expecting that they'll beat Chelsea and easily then beat us (Stoke) the following week and onward to safety they go! So in the space of a day a team of under performing, over paided renegades have sudden been united and will waltz up the league - be serious!

The press make up stories to sell papers, but beating Stoke fcuken City is hardly beyond the realms of fantasy, Or do you now blame Newcastle fans for what the media writes. Before Shearer arrived they were already resigned to relegation, all this has done is give them a bit of optimism as the players now have someone that will guide the team.

As Joe Kinnear who was brought in as temporary manager until the end of the season is now according to the club going to be returning to his position as manager in pre season shows Ashley still cant be straight with people, with the current regime (not including Shearer) in place if they did manage to stay up this year theyd be relegation certs next.

Most of these insane Newcastle fans dont exclusively want a geordie manager they wanted one that was competent, but they do think that one good thing about Shearer returning was that he'd only return if the club was to be run properly ....... also to blow another of these media myths you take as gospel they dont want 11 geordies in the team just 11 good players, the Geordie that is Shola Ameobi is despised by all.

[technocracy]

but beating Stoke fcuken City is hardly beyond the realms of fantasy

Well considering only Chelsea, Man Utd and Everton have done it this season at the Britannia - it's more of a long shot than you think!

Oh also you failed to beat us at your place also. . .

keep on having those fantasies .. .. like being 'big club' - one who haven't won a single major honours in 40 years .. . .

[sanmiguel]

but beating Stoke fcuken City is hardly beyond the realms of fantasy

Well considering only Chelsea, Man Utd and Everton have done it this season at the Britannia - it's more of a long shot than you think!

Oh also you failed to beat us at your place also. . .

keep on having those fantasies .. .. like being 'big club' - one who haven't won a single major honours in 40 years .. . .

OK so ive shown youre totally wrong and offer opinions similar to that of those fools who call in talksport and 5 live, and you retort with the usual predictable youre not a big club line.

If they arent a significant club how have they made front pages of national newspapers on the day that Obama came to town, and why are they always in the top 10-20 of the richest clubs in Europe even when they arent in Europe if theyre so small.

Is England football team a small insignificant team in global terms as they havent won anything for 40 odd years?

Last time i visited Stoke your fans were quite happy to hit old men and kids your fans still so brave? if we do go down you scabs will soon follow.

[rixalex]

Shearer is great for what he symbolizes and what he achieved, but where's the charisma, where's the heart on the sleeve passion? Can you see him giving half-time speeches that really fire up the players with his quiet monotone delivery?

I guess Eriksson is proof that it can be done, but whether Shearer can pull it off on his first management job seems to me a long shot.

Wonder where you'd be now had you stuck with big Sam?

[technocracy]

but beating Stoke fcuken City is hardly beyond the realms of fantasy

You've shown me I am totally wrong?!? Where exactly?

Front pages of newspapers. . .oooooooooh

Richest?! As far as I was aware they are closer to administration than most Premier League clubs

Football is about success and not winning any major honours is quite an important yardstick of measurement!

You keep going on about Talksport and 5 Live - but come out with the above quote - sound much like something the people you are trying to label as listeners of these stations would say.

I have never listened to Talksport and haven't listened to 5Live for probably 5 years.

[sanmiguel]

Football is about success

Most Stoke fans think this way which is why your grounds gone from over half empty to full in a couple of years.

and not winning any major honours is quite an important yardstick of measurement!

Im of the opinion Newcastle will probably win <deleted> all in my life and im only 33, but theyve certainly got the potential to reach this yardstick without someone elses money ala Chelsea, Blackburn, ManCity style.

You keep going on about Talksport and 5 Live - but come out with the above quote - sound much like something the people you are trying to label as listeners of these stations would say.

How can commenting that beating Stoke is not beyond the realms of fantasy be sheeple like thinking?

I have never listened to Talksport and haven't listened to 5Live for probably 5 years.

I dont usually listen to these stations, but April 1st i was driving for 12 hours and listened to people on these stations who support ManU, Liverpool, Stoke or whatever football team coming out with some absolute <deleted> comments about a club and a city theyve probably never been to and certainly know nothing about, but they think theyve a grand vision after reading a couple of columns by middle class journalist, who are new breed footy fans that work for southern based media and by watching voxpox comments on SkySports from muppets outside the ground.

Me personally i couldnt give such insight into anyone elses franchise as i know <deleted> all about them, and care even less.

Edited April 3, 2009 by sanmiguel

[sanmiguel]

Shearer is great for what he symbolizes and what he achieved, but where's the charisma, where's the heart on the sleeve passion? Can you see him giving half-time speeches that really fire up the players with his quiet monotone delivery?

He was England captain aswell as Newcastle captain and constantly lead on the pitch and allegedly the dressing room throughout his career, i think thats the least of his worries for being a successful manager.

Wonder where you'd be now had you stuck with big Sam?

The Championship.

[rixalex]

Wonder where you'd be now had you stuck with big Sam?

The Championship.

Don't agree that Sam would have done a worse job than you've done without him, but it's your club and if this thread is anything to go by, you aren't interested in the opinion of anyone whose opinion doesn't match yours.

[sanmiguel]

Wonder where you'd be now had you stuck with big Sam?

The Championship.

Don't agree that Sam would have done a worse job than you've done without him, but it's your club and if this thread is anything to go by, you aren't interested in the opinion of anyone whose opinion doesn't match yours.

Well if it wasnt crap like Shearer cant lose he's only doing it for himself, Shearer cant inspire a dressing room, if he really wanted to help he should have come when Keegan left, and people retorting media drivel tales about Newcastle supporters views etc etc... its pretty difficult to agree with this and i believe in my horrible manner ive explained why this is wrong.

Under Sam Allardyce Newcastle could have been relegated last year, they really were that bad under him, at best Newcastle would be going through a slightly better season then they are now, realistically theyd very possibly been relegated last season or this under him.

But its all down to Mike Ashley employing his mates from the casino, who brought in such wonderful players like Ignacio Gonzalez, Xisco behind Keegans back, the ironic thing is the only new player worth his salt ie Bassong who cost 500k was one of Keegans finds.

[technocracy]

The only thing I have to add to this thread is that all Stoke fans would like to thank the shambles on tyne for is selling us big Abdy Faye for 2.5mil . . . ta muchly!

[Spit the Dog]

The press make up stories to sell papers, but beating Stoke fcuken City is hardly beyond the realms of fantasy, Or do you now blame Newcastle fans for what the media writes. Before Shearer arrived they were already resigned to relegation, all this has done is give them a bit of optimism as the players now have someone that will guide the team.

As Joe Kinnear who was brought in as temporary manager until the end of the season is now according to the club going to be returning to his position as manager in pre season shows Ashley still cant be straight with people, with the current regime (not including Shearer) in place if they did manage to stay up this year theyd be relegation certs next.

Most of these insane Newcastle fans dont exclusively want a geordie manager they wanted one that was competent, but they do think that one good thing about Shearer returning was that he'd only return if the club was to be run properly ....... also to blow another of these media myths you take as gospel they dont want 11 geordies in the team just 11 good players, the Geordie that is Shola Ameobi is despised by all.

You've made some good points sanmiguel. Appointing Shearer has made most Toon fans a bit more optimistic. I now rate Newcastle's chances of staying up as 50/50 with Shearer whereas before I rated them as 5/95 with Hughton in charge.

No matter which league Newcastle are in next season, Joe Kinnear should not be in charge. He's too old and is not somebody that should be trusted with the long term future of the club.

And yes Sheila Ameobi is <deleted>!

The only thing I have to add to this thread is that all Stoke fans would like to thank the shambles on tyne for is selling us big Abdy Faye for 2.5mil . . . ta muchly!

I would have kept big Abdy Faye. I was surprised when Newcastle sold him to Stoke. He was big and strong and I would rather have him than that big blouse Colloccini. On the other hand Bassong has been a great find at 500,000. I'm probably biased but I think he has the potential to be a world class player. I just hope that he can remain focused and doesn't end up at Wigan like his mate N'Zogbia.

[StevieH]

Wonder where you'd be now had you stuck with big Sam?

The Championship.

Don't agree that Sam would have done a worse job than you've done without him, but it's your club and if this thread is anything to go by, you aren't interested in the opinion of anyone whose opinion doesn't match yours.

agree, i think that newcastle would have been far better off now if they'd persisted with allardyce.

[Spit the Dog]

Wonder where you'd be now had you stuck with big Sam?

The Championship.

Don't agree that Sam would have done a worse job than you've done without him, but it's your club and if this thread is anything to go by, you aren't interested in the opinion of anyone whose opinion doesn't match yours.

agree, i think that newcastle would have been far better off now if they'd persisted with allardyce.

In all fairness, Sam should have been given more time. We'll never know now where NUFC would be now if they persisted with Allardyce. His best signing was probably Habib Beye. His worst, well chose between Rozenhal, Smith, Geremi, Cacapa, Barton or the permanently injured Viduka.

In my opinion he wasn't the answer. The football played under Allardyce was complete dross. But in saying that, it's still dross now.

Let's hope that Shearer can change that.

[sanmiguel]

Wonder where you'd be now had you stuck with big Sam?

The Championship.

Don't agree that Sam would have done a worse job than you've done without him, but it's your club and if this thread is anything to go by, you aren't interested in the opinion of anyone whose opinion doesn't match yours.

agree, i think that newcastle would have been far better off now if they'd persisted with allardyce.

Allardyce coule very possible have walked aswell as i couldnt see someone like this letting Dennis Wise dictate which players he bought and selling players such as Milner against his will, he also said upon buying players such as Rozenhal Cacapa they were all he could afford and were a risk.

[ThaiPauly]

Not a good start...nor did they play very well, although Owen's "Goal" was over the line, but Chelsea could have scored more.

They won at a cantour...with other sides around them picking up points they are in deep do-do's now