Panther On The Loose In Chumphon

[koto]

Worried that the panther might attack village children, Mr Thawee called in the livestock department to hunt it down.

I wonder why experts from the zoo aren't called in

Because the zoos of Thailand do not have experts. TMost asian zoos are horrible places for animals. Perhaps what you meant were some of the very skilled, competent professionals found at some of the Thai wildlife refuge and rehab centers. The Thais that work these places are some of the kindest and gentlest souls around and they also know what they are doing. Unfortunately approaching them might prove to be an embarrassment for the implicated ministry.

True story, a few years ago, we used to take children to Nong Nooch Village, Pattaya, to see the beautiful gardens of flora and funa, then on to see the animals, we would see their living conditions some so, so, and many, pure hel_l, we quit going there for that reason, we all talked about how bad some of these poor animals must have been, to be put through this kind of living hel_l, to be in such a small cage, no place to run or hide and humans yelling and poking things at them and their stuck, in a cage just big enough to turn around in.

we had also sent this information in the local papers.

I often have wondered if anybody else complained, I'm happy for this poor hungry beautiful animal he/she is going to be put down, fighting for his/her life, opposed to the "not life" If caught, being striped of it's natural rights, chased out of it's home by humans, then caged!

Let it go down running and fighting for it's life and hope he/she makes it back to his/her home to die.

ONE RANDOM ACT OF KINDNESS AT A TIME, "LET HIM/HER, DIE FIGHTING FOR HIS/HER, RIGHT TO LIVE" NOT CAGED, LIVE ANOTHER MONTH, OR IF REALLY UNLUCKY, YEARS, OF FEAR AND LIVING hel_l.................. RUN MY FRIEND, RUN.

Maybe Nong Nooch Village has improved, we sure hope so, maybe we will go back, maybe!

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Edited January 11, 2010 by koto

[ignoramus]

Gee, a black panther in SE Asia eh. Always thought they were indigenous to S America, but then I've been wrong once before, about something or other, but then maybe I'm wrong about that too . No mention of a missing BP from a LOS zoo I notice, or missed. Here in Oz we've had a BP for, oh, decades. Bloody thing is elephant-sized I hear tell.

[PawyiLee]

It's in Chumporn so :Why just don't call some Isaan people, as they are well known to easy catch and eat everthing with four legs (except tables and chairs) !

My Isaan wife got a kick out of your post, and agrees that it is true of her generation, but not of the kids coming up today.

[canuckamuck]

They could get my father in law to catch it. He has caught quite a few leopards in his day, mind you they are the clouded leopards which are considerable smaller than what is being described in the news. I hear he caught another one this year. Unfortunately it is considered free food in his village.

I would be offended, but what chance do critters have in this country, I am surprised they still have rats.

He catches those too by the way.

[serpentine]

Black Panther from where? Are they native here? There are so often stories of big cats in strange places, like rural Victoria Australia. They are so agile and stealthy that they can adapt, and I think they are more active at night so very hard to see.

I hope they don't kill it. There must be some environmental conservation people in Chumporn area who can supervise the capture.

[witsawakorn]

Worried that the panther might attack village children, Mr Thawee called in the livestock department to hunt it down.

I wonder why experts from the zoo aren't called in

what experts from what zoo.??

They could try Khao Khieow open zoo in Chonburi it looked quite well run the last time I was there presumably not by accident

[OzMick]

The Thai army participated in the American war in Vietnam under the name of "The Royal Thai Black Panther Division".

http://www.history.army.mil/books/vietnam/allied/ch02.htm

Off topic, I know. The more interesting thing is that Ho Chi Minh donated a clock tower to Nakhon Phanom for R&R services to NVA troops while those troops were were serving. They had 39(?) KIA.

[exalll]

For all those posing the question, yes, "black panthers" are native to Thailand. Actually, there is no such species as a "black panther". In S. America the name is used to describe a dark form of the jaguar; in Asia and Africa, the same name is used to describe a dark form of a leopard. The photo at the beginning of this thread (which someone from ThaiVisa presmably took from the Wikipedia entry), is apparently a jaguar.

[TPI]

Worried that the panther might attack village children, Mr Thawee called in the livestock department to hunt it down.

I wonder why experts from the zoo aren't called in

Because the zoos of Thailand do not have experts. TMost asian zoos are horrible places for animals. Perhaps what you meant were some of the very skilled, competent professionals found at some of the Thai wildlife refuge and rehab centers. The Thais that work these places are some of the kindest and gentlest souls around and they also know what they are doing. Unfortunately approaching them might prove to be an embarrassment for the implicated ministry.

True story, a few years ago, we used to take children to Nong Nooch Village, Pattaya, to see the beautiful gardens of flora and funa, then on to see the animals, we would see their living conditions some so, so, and many, pure hel_l, we quit going there for that reason, we all talked about how bad some of these poor animals must have been, to be put through this kind of living hel_l, to be in such a small cage, no place to run or hide and humans yelling and poking things at them and their stuck, in a cage just big enough to turn around in.

we had also sent this information in the local papers.

I often have wondered if anybody else complained, I'm happy for this poor hungry beautiful animal he/she is going to be put down, fighting for his/her life, opposed to the "not life" If caught, being striped of it's natural rights, chased out of it's home by humans, then caged!

Let it go down running and fighting for it's life and hope he/she makes it back to his/her home to die.

ONE RANDOM ACT OF KINDNESS AT A TIME, "LET HIM/HER, DIE FIGHTING FOR HIS/HER, RIGHT TO LIVE" NOT CAGED, LIVE ANOTHER MONTH, OR IF REALLY UNLUCKY, YEARS, OF FEAR AND LIVING hel_l.................. RUN MY FRIEND, RUN.

Maybe Nong Nooch Village has improved, we sure hope so, maybe we will go back, maybe!

They need to put the director's of the zoo's into the animal cages for a week or two, Phrae horticultural compoud has the most disgusting zoo in the world...let's hope we can get a leopard in there to eat a staff member or three!

[khundon]

I was running like hel_l down the soi and a guy came out of the 7/11 and ran alongside me.

He said "why is everyone running" I said "there is a huge, wild Panther on the loose".

He said to me "which way did it go?"

I said "well you don't think I'm chasing it, do you?"

[NTGuy]

I thought that after Eldridge Cleaver died, Black Panthers went extinct!

[whitedog]

I have a good idea, why not round up some of the people that are the cause of the stray dogs and let them go pet the nice kitty

[koto]

They could get my father in law to catch it. He has caught quite a few leopards in his day, mind you they are the clouded leopards which are considerable smaller than what is being described in the news. I hear he caught another one this year. Unfortunately it is considered free food in his village.

I would be offended, but what chance do critters have in this country, I am surprised they still have rats.

He catches those too by the way.

Rats that live in the bush, rice patties, are good to eat, it is the storm drain and city rats that can be a problem, and of course how and where one is raised, in the bush you don't go to Lotus, you live off of the land, the way it was, still is in many places, you know back to basics, which we will all, wish that we knew how to, sooner then later, many rats in the rice patties, you nail-em, cook-em and get back to work, or they eat your cow (rice) a little fire a little salt and chow down, not for the city slicker, you can take the kid out of the city, but it's not easy to take the city out of the kid.

[Igor]

Yes, after much speculation and searching I believe they found it not far from where it went missing, dead in a drain - so what chance would the zoo people have of ever finding a highly mobile panther.

That's sad. I was in Kabul when the zoo had an escape of three monkeys. Don't know what breed. They temporarily took refuge in a huge mulberry tree outside our office. Great fun watching the zookeepers trying to catch them with hand nets!

Eventually, they jumped to another tree and out of our sight. I heard they finally caught two of them. Never heard what happened to the last one.

[Godders]

:Can it be the same black panther, I wonder, everybody kept seeing in England when I was a youngster? Sightings were made all over the country. Packs of farmers roamed around with shotguns, fearing for their livestock. The beast's carcass was never found. Could it have stowed away, perhaps, on some merchantman and headed for warmer climes? Hope it doesn't go scuba diving off Pattaya. . .

[guruofvinyl]

Went to Capture it with shotguns and machete's

Thai style to "capture" endangered species...

But hasn't the army and police ordered some millions of rubber bullets? Hope they don't mix them up...

While staying at my wife's land south of Ranong, a member of the family captured a fairly rare fairly endangered animal--a pangolin which is sort of an armored animal like an armadillo in the US. So I was excited and interested in this creature. When I asked the family what it was, the answer I got was "200 baht a kilo". This is Thai peasant mentality.

[mike404045]

a black panther on the lose geeeeez they always got great news stories on the thaivisa forum!

me too, didnt know that thailand had them here!?

[Brewsta]

Worried that the panther might attack village children, Mr Thawee called in the livestock department to hunt it down.

I wonder why experts from the zoo aren't called in

How about the Chiang Mai Night Safari personal.They'll have that dead in 24 hours.

Send it to my village outside ChiangMai - result: Soi Dogs 1 Panther 0

Seriously though, hope that it get smart and runs back to the hills.

[bushwacker]

Don't know why, but that term "crack down" always invokes an image of some fat buraeucrat re-ensconcing himself in his chair. The crack in his butt is the only crack that goes down...

new crackdown on street dogs?

It will go down as the only crack down to actually achive anything

hahahahahaha.....hihihihihihi (thanks for the morning laugh.... now i am ready for the day)

[ScubaBuddha]

Here in Oz we've had a BP for, oh, decades. Bloody thing is elephant-sized I hear tell.

Black Panther from where? Are they native here? There are so often stories of big cats in strange places, like rural Victoria Australia.

According to Wiki, US soldiers brought black panthers to Australia as mascots during WWII and they escaped.

Edited January 12, 2010 by ScubaBuddha

[ScubaBuddha]

I have a good idea, why not round up some of the people that are the cause of the stray dogs and let them go pet the nice kitty

The cause of the stray dogs is the Buddhist belief in reincarnation, thus euthanizing them like we do in the west is not an option. //Deleted by admin//

[mark5335]

They could get my father in law to catch it. He has caught quite a few leopards in his day, mind you they are the clouded leopards which are considerable smaller than what is being described in the news. I hear he caught another one this year. Unfortunately it is considered free food in his village.

I would be offended, but what chance do critters have in this country, I am surprised they still have rats.

He catches those too by the way.

Rats that live in the bush, rice patties, are good to eat, it is the storm drain and city rats that can be a problem, and of course how and where one is raised, in the bush you don't go to Lotus, you live off of the land, the way it was, still is in many places, you know back to basics, which we will all, wish that we knew how to, sooner then later, many rats in the rice patties, you nail-em, cook-em and get back to work, or they eat your cow (rice) a little fire a little salt and chow down, not for the city slicker, you can take the kid out of the city, but it's not easy to take the city out of the kid.

Although off topic, on a recent roadtrip between Bangkok and Chiangmai, I saw signs by the road (the National Highway) advertising these ricefield rats for sale (for eating). Also saw signs advertsing bats for sale.

[ScubaBuddha]

I have a good idea, why not round up some of the people that are the cause of the stray dogs and let them go pet the nice kitty

The cause of the stray dogs is the Buddhist belief in reincarnation, thus euthanizing them like we do in the west is not an option. //Deleted by admin//

I am offended at the presumption I made a racist comment. I was merely pointing out that whitedogs comments didn't make sense once you realize that it is a Buddhist principal to not kill animals, and therefore "rounding up those responsible" becomes a nonsensical statement. My 100% satirical comment was taken way out of context by admin. I was mocking the author of the quoted text to illustrate their misunderstanding around the cause of so many stray dogs by stating an absurdity. It was in NO WAY a racist comment or meant to offend anyone. (Except for maybe whitedog just a little) If it did, I apologize.

Edited January 12, 2010 by ScubaBuddha

[makri]

black panthers are actually jaguars with a gene error, making it black instead of spotted. they are indigenous to south america, so it's probably an escaped animal from a zoo or kicked out because of boredom from a private owner.

no respect from the thais as to being a beautiful or endangered species, as with all animals here, just food or trophy that must be killed as soon as possible.

[Wildliferescue]

This story came out a few times in this area, last time just over a year ago. We had a wildlife rescue team go out there yesterday but we have seen zero proof of the existence of this leopard. It is indeed a pity that experts are not asked to help, we came without invitation and the livestock dep followed us everywhere, so worried we would find it before they did...

[midasthailand]

Here in Oz we've had a BP for, oh, decades. Bloody thing is elephant-sized I hear tell.

Black Panther from where? Are they native here? There are so often stories of big cats in strange places, like rural Victoria Australia.

According to Wiki, US soldiers brought black panthers to Australia as mascots during WWII and they escaped.

And you actually believe that?????

[ignoramus]

Oh good heavens midasthailand, of course I don't believe it. I'm having a bloody laugh at the believers. That pic of the BP is a pic of an old BP. I have seen many pics of them and one in the flesh, and this baby is not a young puss. If it existed in Thailand (that is, out of its S American natural domicile) or anywhere else I can assure you it would have been sighted loooong before this. Besides the pic is way too good to be the pic of the animal being discussed.

We have people here in Oz calling talkback radio every couple of years or so saying they have seen such an animal. But then we also have thousands of feral cats, some of which are apparently quite large.

I don't believe in UFO's or black panthers (outside S America). Somehow they are always BLACK panthers...what ever happened to leopards? Or snow leopards?

(If this BP exists I would ask what it eats. Not baby elephants or people, so far. So what?) A good giggle this.

[ignoramus]

Oh good heavens, I forgot about ScubaBuddha's comment. Good old Wikipedia eh. Maaaate, it ain't Brittanica now is it. Anyone can contribute to it, don't you know. Anyone at all. You need to think for just a few seconds about the logistics involved for anyone, let alone an ordinary US serviceman, in bringing a big cat to any location on a war-time ship. Australia is a long way from anywhere; the cat would require a large cage (i.e. sufficient for movement); permission from the hierarchy; loads of frozen red meat (scarce in war-time) or live meat (goats etc). Nah maaate bloody ridiculous concept. So Wiki said this did it. One word will suffice:- crap.

[ScubaBuddha]

Here in Oz we've had a BP for, oh, decades. Bloody thing is elephant-sized I hear tell.

Black Panther from where? Are they native here? There are so often stories of big cats in strange places, like rural Victoria Australia.

According to Wiki, US soldiers brought black panthers to Australia as mascots during WWII and they escaped.

And you actually believe that?????

I was suspicious, but anything is possible.

[ScubaBuddha]

Oh good heavens midasthailand, of course I don't believe it. I'm having a bloody laugh at the believers. That pic of the BP is a pic of an old BP. I have seen many pics of them and one in the flesh, and this baby is not a young puss. If it existed in Thailand (that is, out of its S American natural domicile) or anywhere else I can assure you it would have been sighted loooong before this. Besides the pic is way too good to be the pic of the animal being discussed.

We have people here in Oz calling talkback radio every couple of years or so saying they have seen such an animal. But then we also have thousands of feral cats, some of which are apparently quite large.

I don't believe in UFO's or black panthers (outside S America). Somehow they are always BLACK panthers...what ever happened to leopards? Or snow leopards?

(If this BP exists I would ask what it eats. Not baby elephants or people, so far. So what?) A good giggle this.

I'm pretty sure your the only one that thought the picture shown was intended to be of the actual animal being discussed.

All anyone really knows is someone saw a really big black cat. There are many credible online sources which state black leopards are present in Mayanmar. As already mentioned, its plausible one could cross the boarder near Chumphon.