January 25, 201016 yr ...i sympathise moonrakers. This thread has been useful in making one rethink ones way of living. I can probably be more adaptive. Now if someone can tell me where i can purchase a chocolate tree, id be most grateful.
January 26, 201016 yr Author ...i sympathise moonrakers. This thread has been useful in making one rethink ones way of living. I can probably be more adaptive. Now if someone can tell me where i can purchase a chocolate tree, id be most grateful. Rethinking? Or just trendy fashion...??
January 30, 201016 yr Could you live off the grid comfortably if you needed to...?? I lived off the grid for many years. I am back on it now but still am pretty self sustained in many ways. When completely off grid I used 6v Deep cells in a series then parallel to have a decent bank. I needed to recharge every 4-6 days as the amount of photovoltaic's I had were not up to my usage. It was not a problem as I ran a generator for other things anyway every few days. Also I never inverted any power because the waste in idle... but instead went DC for lighting & television. Then LP gas for cooking, refrigeration & water heating. Some of the downside was my water system was as it is now 100% catchment. But the pumps available in DC were not the best. Now on the grid I have a nice pump/pressure tank system. But to answer your question...Yes I was very comfortable off power no problem. As I said I am on grid now but may look into a photovoltaic system & see about selling power back. Photovoltaics have come a long way since. I still am 100% on my own water & waste systems which is easy
January 30, 201016 yr What about one of those chocolate fountain thingies? Or a cheese fondue fountain thingy? Or a champagne fountain? Sort of stack them up, one by one. Yum.
January 30, 201016 yr What about one of those chocolate fountain thingies? Or a cheese fondue fountain thingy? Or a champagne fountain?Sort of stack them up, one by one. Yum. It's easy to see you have your priorities in order, Patsycat. You've got to move to the big rock candy mountains. In the big rock candy mountains there's a land that's fair and bright Where the handouts grow on bushes and you sleep out every night. Where the boxcars are all empty and the sun shines every day On the birds and bees and cigarette trees Where there's lemonade springs and the bluebird sings In the big rock candy mountains. In the big rock candy mountains you never change your socks And little streams of alcohol come trickling down the rocks. The brakemen have to tip their hats and the railroad bulls are blind There's a lake of stew and whiskey too You can paddle all around in a big canoe in the big rock candy mountains. In the big rock candy mountains the cops got wooden legs The bull dogs all got rubber teeth and the hens lay soft boiled eggs. The farmers trees are full of fruit and the barns are full of hay Oh I'm bound to go where there ain't no snow Where the rain don't fall and the wind don't blow In the big rock candy mountains.
January 30, 201016 yr don't think EGAT buys back power flying. Actually I live 9 months out of the year in a country that does buy back power. You know the 2 or 3 months a year we stay in Thailand I am always amazed how cheap electricity is though.
January 30, 201016 yr NZ buys back power if you generate your own. I've looked into this before. To set up combined wind and solar at home in the suburbs, it would take about 15 years before the savings from not paying the power company made up for the cost in setting up. Then you have maintenance: those batteries are expensive and need replacing every 10 years or so. Nice legacy for your heirs though. Effectively, any power company would buy back surplus power you generate if you remain on the grid because the meter runs backwards when you have surplus, and runs forwards (calculating your bill) when your own generation is not enough and you draw on the grid.
January 31, 201016 yr If you are lucky enough to live beside a year-round creek it's possible to put in a Pelton water wheel and generate enough electricity to run a small village. I know several fishing resorts way back in the wilderness of BC that provide their own electricity. One resort generates enough electricity for refrigerators in 5 cabins, a walk in freezing plant for hunter's game animals, a big hot tub and electric heating for all the cabins when the temperature drops below freezing. It's amazing how much electricity can be generated by even a tiny stream.
January 31, 201016 yr AND strangled a wet tea towel. Well that's another term not used down south When I was a boy I lived without Electricity, nor Gas both had been cut off No proper food, no money The sky was my roof, the footpath my mattress, cold streams for water Oh dear I have just realised that is not what you meant
February 1, 201016 yr If you are lucky enough to live beside a year-round creek it's possible to put in a Pelton water wheel and generate enough electricity to run a small village. I know several fishing resorts way back in the wilderness of BC that provide their own electricity. One resort generates enough electricity for refrigerators in 5 cabins, a walk in freezing plant for hunter's game animals, a big hot tub and electric heating for all the cabins when the temperature drops below freezing. It's amazing how much electricity can be generated by even a tiny stream. The stream needs a large fall over a short distance, ie, you need to live in a mountainous region.
February 1, 201016 yr AND strangled a wet tea towel. Well that's another term not used down south When I was a boy I lived without Electricity, nor Gas both had been cut off No proper food, no money The sky was my roof, the footpath my mattress, cold streams for water Oh dear I have just realised that is not what you meant In many ways, that would have been alot tougher than what we are talking about.
February 1, 201016 yr It's certainly far more dangerous to live in a city with no means of support than sleep alone in the wild.
February 1, 201016 yr That depends on what you are used to. A bag lady type would be far better off sleeping on the street than out in the jungle.
February 1, 201016 yr Maybe she's past the stage of caring what happens to her, or, in the jungle of the city she's one of the wild animals.
February 1, 201016 yr Maybe she's past the stage of caring what happens to her, or, in the jungle of the city she's one of the wild animals. In Africa they used to send the elderly out in the veldt to be eaten by the heinas and jackals. In the Arctic regions they sent the elderly out in the snow to freeze to death. Considering the report I just read about a bunch of Burmese hill tribe people being shot and killed by slave traders (or possibly police) it doesn't seem we have progressed too much.
February 2, 201016 yr Maybe she's past the stage of caring what happens to her, or, in the jungle of the city she's one of the wild animals. In Africa they used to send the elderly out in the veldt to be eaten by the heinas and jackals. In the Arctic regions they sent the elderly out in the snow to freeze to death. Considering the report I just read about a bunch of Burmese hill tribe people being shot and killed by slave traders (or possibly police) it doesn't seem we have progressed too much. These are the perfect right wing societies Ian, the savings on welfare payments are of enormous benefit to the taxpayer. Why should the lazy and incompetent be supported by the rest of us? (Or those silly enough to entrust their pension schemes to the wrong hands).
February 2, 201016 yr Maybe she's past the stage of caring what happens to her, or, in the jungle of the city she's one of the wild animals. In Africa they used to send the elderly out in the veldt to be eaten by the heinas and jackals. In the Arctic regions they sent the elderly out in the snow to freeze to death. Considering the report I just read about a bunch of Burmese hill tribe people being shot and killed by slave traders (or possibly police) it doesn't seem we have progressed too much. These are the perfect right wing societies Ian, the savings on welfare payments are of enormous benefit to the taxpayer. Why should the lazy and incompetent be supported by the rest of us? (Or those silly enough to entrust their pension schemes to the wrong hands). They could be lefties too man. Hyenas and jackals have been unfairly stereotyped and discriminated against for centuries and they need to eat too!
February 2, 201016 yr Maybe she's past the stage of caring what happens to her, or, in the jungle of the city she's one of the wild animals. In Africa they used to send the elderly out in the veldt to be eaten by the heinas and jackals. In the Arctic regions they sent the elderly out in the snow to freeze to death. Considering the report I just read about a bunch of Burmese hill tribe people being shot and killed by slave traders (or possibly police) it doesn't seem we have progressed too much. These are the perfect right wing societies Ian, the savings on welfare payments are of enormous benefit to the taxpayer. Why should the lazy and incompetent be supported by the rest of us? (Or those silly enough to entrust their pension schemes to the wrong hands). They could be lefties too man. Hyenas and jackals have been unfairly stereotyped and discriminated against for centuries and they need to eat too! No, I think it describes fascisim. As we're now witnessing however, it is possible to place liberal or progressive labels on what is essentially fascist behaviour.
February 2, 201016 yr I once ate frozen Pizza, It sort of defrosts in your mouth if you give it time. I have also considered dropping my Thai Elderly Inlaws off in the Mountains , remote Mountains So yes, I could live off the Grid. With or without Modern Technology. Its relatively easy with modern Technology these days, I've toyed with Solar, Inverters etc. in the past. You can keep all your home comforts . Or are we talking about going back to the stone age ? . I do sometimes admire my neighbours though and there ability to live off the land, foraging for food etc. Their only modern technology being a Battery powered radio and a couple of flourescent tubes which can easily be dispensed with .
February 3, 201016 yr Frozen peas are great, they sort of dissolve in your mouth with this great fresh pea flavour.
February 3, 201016 yr Frozen peas are great, they sort of dissolve in your mouth with this great fresh pea flavour. Yeah, thats the sort of thing. ...... thats what I'm talking about..... real survival stuff. .................... especially after an Hangover
February 3, 201016 yr When my stepdaughter got married she started buy some clothes in KMart and Target. We were so proud of her.
February 3, 201016 yr When my stepdaughter got married she started buy some clothes in KMart and Target. We were so proud of her. We'll OK Scea. ........ I think......... ................... Ahhh. Got it ............. INDEPENDENCE
February 3, 201016 yr No, living out side the grid jubby. Doing it HARD You're not suggesting I'd take a thread off topic are you?
February 3, 201016 yr No, living out side the grid jubby. Doing it HARDYou're not suggesting I'd take a thread off topic are you? K-Mart, Target , never been , different Continental Shelf . I'll have to take your word for it . Premark or Netto equivelents perhaps. It appears the ops up and left with so many questions left unanswered . What can we do but wander around aimlessly
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