Is the Tea Party there to stay and gain power ?

PALIN WARNS DEMS THEY ARE RUNNING OUT OF TIME AND REPUBLICANS OF PRIMARY CHALLENGES

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/

LaoPo

February 7, 2010

Palin Assails Obama at Tea Party Meeting

By KATE ZERNIKE

NASHVILLE – As Sarah Palin left the stage at the inaugural National Tea Party Convention here Saturday night, the crowd erupted into chants of “Run Sarah Run!”

“I think you like her!” said Judson Phillips, the chief organizer of the convention, when the ovation finally stopped and people had stepped down from the chairs where they had been standing and waving flags.

Ms. Palin gave the Tea Party crowd exactly what they wanted to hear, declaring the primacy of the Tenth Amendment in limiting government powers, complaining about the bailouts and the “generational theft” of rising deficits, and urging the audience to back conservative challengers in contested primaries.

“America is ready for another revolution!” she told the crowd, prompting the first of several standing ovations.

The speech was closely watched as a potential signal of Ms. Palin’s political future and the extent to which the convention would embrace her. But Ms. Palin, while aligning herself firmly with the Tea Party, nevertheless urged the 1,100 delegates who had gathered in a hotel ballroom not to let the movement be defined by any one leader.

“This is about the people, and it’s bigger than any one king or queen of a tea party, and it’s a lot bigger than any charismatic guy with a teleprompter,” she said.

That was just one of several digs at President Obama. “How’s that hopey-changey thing workin’ out for you?” she asked at one point. She blasted him for rising deficits, “apologizing for America” in speeches in other countries, and for allowing the so-called Christmas bomber to board a plane headed for the United States, saying he was weak on the war on terrorism.

“To win that war, we need a commander in chief, not a professor of law,” she declared.

Ms. Palin gave little hint to her political plans when Mr. Phillips, the organizer, prodded her in a brief question-and-answer period after her 40-minute speech. She said she would support those candidates who “understand free market principles” and “personal responsibility.”

Without saying which candidates she would support, she said she would campaign for conservative challengers in some Republican primaries.

“This is how we’re going to find the cream of the crop to face a challenger in the general,” she said. “Let’s not be afraid of contested primaries.”

When he asked her about the “two words that scare liberals: President Palin,” she demurred, smiling and looking to the side of the stage where she said her youngest daughter, Piper, was watching.

And pressed about the relationship between the Republican Party and the Tea Party movement, and whether the latter should become a third party, Ms. Palin suggested the two should be compatible.

“The Republican Party would be really smart to start trying to absorb as much of the Tea Party movement as possible,” she said. “This is a beautiful movement because it is shaping the way politics are conducted. You’ve got both party machines running scared.”

The convention had gathered here to try to turn the activism of the Tea Party rallies over the last year into actual political power. Her speech was the keynote event of the convention, and the big draw for many of the 600 people who had paid $549 to attend – another 500, organizers said, paid $349 just to see for her speech alone.

The convention had been a pretty sedate affair until the Palin speech, with delegates sitting through panel discussions about how to effect changes in primary elections and how to use new technology to Tea Party advantage. But by the time she took the stage after the closing dinner Saturday night, convention-goers were hungry for the red meat.

They had begun lining up outside the ballroom three hours before the speech, breaking out at one point into “God Bless America.” As Judson Phillips, the chief convention organizer, warmed up the crowd for her speech, it erupted in chants of “USA! USA!” They raised a toast to Ronald Reagan, whose 99th birthday would have been Saturday. (“To Ronnie,” said one woman wearing sequins at the back of the room.)

When Andrew Breitbart, the founder of BigGovernment.com, introduced Ms. Palin by describing her as “the first person to tell us about the death panel,” the crowd cheered.

Ms. Palin’s fee for speaking was reported to be $100,000, and she was criticized by some Tea Party activists for taking a fee, much as the convention itself was criticized for charging a ticket price that is too high for tea partiers who consider themselves fiscal conservatives. But Mr. Phillips, the founder of Tea Party Nation, the social networking site that sponsored the convention, refused to talk about how much she was paid.

“I’ll simply say this: when you get a speaker of the caliber of Governor Palin, it’s not done on the basis of a handshake,” he said. He added that there had been a confidentiality clause in the contract organizers signed with Ms. Palin. “Contractually I’m not allowed to talk about it,” he said. “I promised I wouldn’t do it.”

And Ms. Palin said she would make no apologies for taking money and turning it back, she said, to conservative causes, though she has not specified which ones she will donate to.

“I will live, I will die for the people of America,” she said. “This party that we call the Tea Party, this movement, as I say, is the future of politics in America.”

By: The New York Times

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/07/us/polit...lin.html?ref=us

LaoPo

I have sympathy for some of the conservative movement, but running Ms Palin in a major election would be absolute idiocy.

^^^^

But, apart from Mrs. Palin, will the Tea Party come out of it's shell and grow into a serious party and possibly challenge the Democrats and Republicans in the future ?

I sense a growing anti "Washington" movement, sick and tired of the old networks from both sides or am I wrong?

LaoPo

Actually it is looking more & more like the Tea party is sadly being hijacked

Actually it is looking more & more like the Tea party is sadly being hijacked

You mean by Palin ?

LaoPo

Actually it is looking more & more like the Tea party is sadly being hijacked

You mean by Palin ?

LaoPo

Yes Palin is a part of the hijacking but in general it is the whole Republican party.

They would like to turn it into their movement yet it never was.

They have tried to feed on the anger of We The People but...We have not forgotten that the left wing & the right wing both belong to the same useless bird.

These pictures are from before they started their hijacking.....

It is the culmination of the Tea party Express that went across America.

The finale was at the capital.

Funny too that day Zobama left town during the protest...He flew out over it in the Marine One Helicopter.

Later the press secretary when asked what Zobama thought of it said....

The president was not aware there was a demonstration going on....

You tell me could you fly over this in a copter & not notice it?

They later tried to claim it was a small turn out & that the Tea party was just pumping up the numbers.

Yet DC Police who have vast experience estimating crowd size also agreed on the rough figures.

But that aside these pictures speak for themselves. They are from the 9-12-09 Tea Party

Lastly here is a link that explains some of the hijacking going on &their tactics to steal the name by using their registered name "Tea Party Nation" & steal the spotlight for themselves. We The People are not so ignorant...At least most of us

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0210/...ml#commentsform

I sense a growing anti "Washington" movement, sick and tired of the old networks from both sides or am I wrong?

LaoPo

Our leadership sucks from both sides of the aisle.

I was watching a little of the Tea Party convention and someone was saying that Palin wasn't really one of them because right after her speech she was off to campaign for some Republican who isn't a favorite of the Tea Partiers who are more Constitutionalists than Republican or Democrat.

I'd like to see them come out and support candidates from different parties as long as that candidate believes the way they do. If they end up getting hijacked by the Republicans then everything will stay the same.

I sense a growing anti "Washington" movement, sick and tired of the old networks from both sides or am I wrong?

LaoPo

Our leadership sucks from both sides of the aisle.

I was watching a little of the Tea Party convention and someone was saying that Palin wasn't really one of them because right after her speech she was off to campaign for some Republican who isn't a favorite of the Tea Partiers who are more Constitutionalists than Republican or Democrat.

I'd like to see them come out and support candidates from different parties as long as that candidate believes the way they do. If they end up getting hijacked by the Republicans then everything will stay the same.

I think you could be right.

The Tea Party is not a "party" as such, but a movement. I imagine it has named iteself after the famous "Boston tea party"...a rebellious act....and as such is suggesting a move away from the norm.

I respect and like your attitude insofar as you can see that an ecclectic approach is probably the way forward.

Take the best from both sides and consolidate them into a winning formula

I'd like to see them come out and support candidates from different parties as long as that candidate believes the way they do. If they end up getting hijacked by the Republicans then everything will stay the same.

The Tea Party is not a "party" as such, but a movement. I imagine it has named itself after the famous "Boston tea party"...a rebellious act....and as such is suggesting a move away from the norm.

Take the best from both sides and consolidate them into a winning formula

Agreed

Problem is as always the candidates with the powers that be behind them ( both right & left as seen by their highest campaign contributors) is the ones that the people see & hear.

The others are rendered mute by being shut out.

Is it any wonder that Ron Paul when running for President on the libertarian ticket was not invited to the debates?

Yes the Tea Party movement is named after the Boston Tea Party & as such it is a mockery for someone like Palin to try to ride its coat tails.

It is encouraging that most of us realize that neither side is "right", but, that with most people, one side tends to match our views more than the other. Maybe there is hope to make things better after all.

It is encouraging that most of us realize that neither side is "right", but, that with most people, one side tends to match our views more than the other. Maybe there is hope to make things better after all.

This emphasises one of the arguments against the broadest sense of the ideal of democracy.

I sense a growing anti "Washington" movement, sick and tired of the old networks from both sides or am I wrong?

LaoPo

Our leadership sucks from both sides of the aisle.

I was watching a little of the Tea Party convention and someone was saying that Palin wasn't really one of them because right after her speech she was off to campaign for some Republican who isn't a favorite of the Tea Partiers who are more Constitutionalists than Republican or Democrat.

I'd like to see them come out and support candidates from different parties as long as that candidate believes the way they do. If they end up getting hijacked by the Republicans then everything will stay the same.

I was surprised to see Palin was there at all and was even paid $ 100,000 to speech.......but why on earth would the Tea Party ask and pay for Palin ? Isn't that asking for the devil to be in your midst and embrace him/her ?

Personally I would welcome to see some new fresh blood in the Republican & Democratic steered US politics, and the Tea Party could bring that change although I was amazed about the aggressiveness by some of TP's members (one woman shouted that all democrats had to be killed )

But, all-in-all, something IS happening....but is it there to stay ?

LaoPo

I was surprised to see Palin was there at all and was even paid $ 100,000 to speech.......but why on earth would the Tea Party ask and pay for Palin ? Isn't that asking for the devil to be in your midst and embrace him/her ?

I have to agree. The woman has nothing going for her other than she is mildly attractive and she is very right wing. Haven't we learned our lesson about electing candidates that are just not qualified?

I was surprised to see Palin was there at all and was even paid $ 100,000 to speech.......but why on earth would the Tea Party ask and pay for Palin ? Isn't that asking for the devil to be in your midst and embrace him/her ?

I have to agree. The woman has nothing going for her other than she is mildly attractive and she is very right wing. Haven't we learned our lesson about electing candidates that are just not qualified?

That woman is dangerously stupid. I would like to think that would be apparent to anyone but I've been wrong before.

I was surprised to see Palin was there at all and was even paid $ 100,000 to speech.......but why on earth would the Tea Party ask and pay for Palin ? Isn't that asking for the devil to be in your midst and embrace him/her ?

I have to agree. The woman has nothing going for her other than she is mildly attractive and she is very right wing. Haven't we learned our lesson about electing candidates that are just not qualified?

That woman is dangerously stupid. I would like to think that would be apparent to anyone but I've been wrong before.

As the article stated Palin & the folks who hired her are not the true Tea Party...

I agree with LB & as such always thought the only reason the right brought her onto the campaign is they wanted to lose.They knew what was coming & wanted to give the election to the left knowing it was a no win situation to take office at this time.

There is no way...( I would hope) that the republican party or any party would be that stupid. They had other women with a brain to choose from if, they truly wanted a woman to counter Clinton votes. Instead they brought in someone they had to literally dress & school on basics such as the wars both current & previous, foreign policy & sadly they seemed to neglect geography

Palin =

Palin is good news for Democrats

SARAH Palin hogged the headlines, but it was still a good weekend for Barack Obama - because Sarah Palin hogged the headlines.

A poll taken late last week gave the hockey mom from Wasilla a five-point lead over the next most popular contender for the 2012 Republican nomination - Mitt Romney, a former Massachusetts governor. Her speech to the Tea Party convention in Nashville, Tennessee, was covered by every network and newspaper from the liberal mainstream media that the Tea Party movement affects to despise.

Her attack on Obama's record on national security was taken seriously by pundits, who agree terrorists do not deserve due process in the US courts, but her support for radical conservative challengers in Republican primary elections will have sent shivers down many a spine in the party's national leadership.

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A serious Palin run for the White House is now a real possibility, not just the fantasy of a disaffected minority.

That should please Obama's staff and supporters immensely, because Palin represents nothing but trouble for the Republicans, for two main reasons.

First, she has already shown she can split the conservative vote and thereby lose seats to the Democrats by backing hard-right candidates over moderates favoured by the Republican high command.

Second, no potential Republican presidential nominee is guaranteed to send independent voters flocking back to the Democrats more than Palin.

More here

Edit: the liberal mainstream media is the expression used by the Murdoch journo, not the opinion of the poster.

I don't mean to insult our cousins across the pond but if the UK equivalent of Sarah Palin ever came within a 1000 miles of being elected in the UK I'd die of shame.

I don't mean to insult our cousins across the pond but if the UK equivalent of Sarah Palin ever came within a 1000 miles of being elected in the UK I'd die of shame.

:D

Sadly we use to say the same.

But we have been killed here so often & still each new one is worse than the last.

I'm not a Palin fan but I just want to remind everyone that while she may not be the sharpest tool in the shed, the guy who is the supposed genius won the election and he's mucking things up pretty good so far.

I'll take common sense and integrity over an Ivy League degree any day. Now, we just need to find a politician with the common sense and integrity. Yeah, good luck with that.

No arguing with that.

I'm not a Palin fan but I just want to remind everyone that while she may not be the sharpest tool in the shed, the guy who is the supposed genius won the election and he's mucking things up pretty good so far.

I'll take common sense and integrity over an Ivy League degree any day. Now, we just need to find a politician with the common sense and integrity. Yeah, good luck with that.

I never thought he was a genius & I feel many also knew that he was not. Also most knew that he was a short timer with no real world experience.

The only reason he got in was a slick campaign....well actually pretty standard...You know promise the world.

But his mantra of hope & change & yes we can....I figure that swayed the majority sick of what they had & where they were headed. Funny too that they are now headed in the same direction at an even faster clip.

Sadly the majority still could not see the man/men behind the curtain & believed the rhetoric.

I too would welcome common sense but I am not sure it is actually allowed by TPTB after they get their person elected.

Sometimes I wonder if even the candidate knows that going in.... or if they really believe they will actually have any more say in what they want to do than what is allowed by TPTB

I'm not a Palin fan but I just want to remind everyone that while she may not be the sharpest tool in the shed, the guy who is the supposed genius won the election and he's mucking things up pretty good so far.

I'll take common sense and integrity over an Ivy League degree any day. Now, we just need to find a politician with the common sense and integrity. Yeah, good luck with that.

No argument....but an Ivy League degree...any decent education.... would be a bonus.

I get an impression that Obama has integrity and common sense.

There is an old quote/saying......there is method in his madness.

I am not saying he is committing madness......but it would be good to keep in mind that aphorism when looking at the actions of an intelligent and educated man.

We are not privvy to all the information and expert advice upon which he makes his decisions.

I never thought he was a genius & I feel many also knew that he was not.

He may not be a genius, but he is darn clever. Too bad it does not seem to be working for him now.

I never thought he was a genius & I feel many also knew that he was not.

He may not be a genius, but he is darn clever. Too bad it does not seem to be working for him now.

I guess it is one thing to talk the talk but another to walk the walk

Sad thing about voting for the lesser of two evils is it only amounts to kicking the can further down the road none (should) want to travel.

I'm not a Palin fan but I just want to remind everyone that while she may not be the sharpest tool in the shed, the guy who is the supposed genius won the election and he's mucking things up pretty good so far.

I'll take common sense and integrity over an Ivy League degree any day. Now, we just need to find a politician with the common sense and integrity. Yeah, good luck with that.

No argument....but an Ivy League degree...any decent education.... would be a bonus.

I get an impression that Obama has integrity and common sense.

There is an old quote/saying......there is method in his madness.

I am not saying he is committing madness......but it would be good to keep in mind that aphorism when looking at the actions of an intelligent and educated man.

We are not privvy to all the information and expert advice upon which he makes his decisions.

It's strange you seem to think an Ivy League degree is such a bonus. GWB has a Bachelor's Degree from Yale and an MBA from Harvard.

I don't recall you giving GWB the same benefit of the doubt you are giving Obama.

I'm not a Palin fan but I just want to remind everyone that while she may not be the sharpest tool in the shed, the guy who is the supposed genius won the election and he's mucking things up pretty good so far.

I'll take common sense and integrity over an Ivy League degree any day. Now, we just need to find a politician with the common sense and integrity. Yeah, good luck with that.

No argument....but an Ivy League degree...any decent education.... would be a bonus.

I get an impression that Obama has integrity and common sense.

There is an old quote/saying......there is method in his madness.

I am not saying he is committing madness......but it would be good to keep in mind that aphorism when looking at the actions of an intelligent and educated man.

We are not privvy to all the information and expert advice upon which he makes his decisions.

It's strange you seem to think an Ivy League degree is such a bonus. GWB has a Bachelor's Degree from Yale and an MBA from Harvard.

I don't recall you giving GWB the same benefit of the doubt you are giving Obama.

You still lurking in this forum?....oh well.....some of us have pride....

You don't recall me giving the village idiot any benefit of the doubt because he removed all doubt by his own words and actions.

I thought this would have been self-evident.

Let me offer my take on the subject of this thread, the Tea Party.

The Tea Party will never develop into a formal "Party" but will remain a strong influence in future elections. It is estimated some 40% of the electorate are independents and not affiliated with either party and, as shown in the recent Massachusetts Senatorial election, will vote for the candidate rather than the party. If this 40% is not affiliated with either party, it seems highly unlikely they will join a third party.

Tea Partiers have already seen through the transparancy of Obama and his administration of strong armed Chicago politicians and, in my humble opinion, will vote accordingly in 2012.

The recent convention was nothing to get excited about. It was a money raising scheme dreamed up by a Nashville lawyer.

Here is a link that better describes the movement than the Huffington Post.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20100208/us_time/08599196072600

When it comes to Palin, she is simply a foil that seems to infuriate all Democrats, much as Rush Limbaugh. What I am surprised at is the vitriole thrown at her by the liberals when she, clearly, will not be a player in the upcoming election in 2012. They truly seem terrified of her and do nothing but help her with their attacks.

She will hang around and be a voice for conservatism but I don't see her ever running for national office again. Perhaps Senator from Alaska, but certainly not one of the top two spots.

You have all been rewarded with my opinions.

I'm not a Palin fan but I just want to remind everyone that while she may not be the sharpest tool in the shed, the guy who is the supposed genius won the election and he's mucking things up pretty good so far.

I'll take common sense and integrity over an Ivy League degree any day. Now, we just need to find a politician with the common sense and integrity. Yeah, good luck with that.

No argument....but an Ivy League degree...any decent education.... would be a bonus.

I get an impression that Obama has integrity and common sense.

There is an old quote/saying......there is method in his madness.

I am not saying he is committing madness......but it would be good to keep in mind that aphorism when looking at the actions of an intelligent and educated man.

We are not privvy to all the information and expert advice upon which he makes his decisions.

It's strange you seem to think an Ivy League degree is such a bonus. GWB has a Bachelor's Degree from Yale and an MBA from Harvard.

I don't recall you giving GWB the same benefit of the doubt you are giving Obama.

You still lurking in this forum?....oh well.....some of us have pride....

You don't recall me giving the village idiot any benefit of the doubt because he removed all doubt by his own words and actions.

I thought this would have been self-evident.

You haven't been banned yet?

Who died and left you in charge? I will post anytime and on any subject I wish and defy you to tell me otherwise.

The only pride you have shown is to clean up your spelling by either using your new Thesaurus or Spell Check. At least your posts now have a degree of professionalism that was not exhibited before.