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Tea Party: There To Stay And Gain Power ?

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"Neocon" is one of those words that has taken on a whole new meaning from it's original definition. Many use it to describe anything related to George Bush or conservatives in general. Just going off memory here, but the original neo-cons were former Democrats who broke with their party because they were more hawkish than the Democratic party was becoming after the Vietnam War. They were/are much more intellectual than Palin that's why I think it's funny that she would be called one.

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I think it has become quite condensed to those who preach smaller govt. But then in the next breath say things like Obama should bomb the he11 out of Iran.

Things like that.....

Same as folks who claim too much spending yet are all for preemptive strikes on others dime. On & on it goes.

But the bottom line & getting back to the Tea Party is.... That the Tea Party is surely not Palin getting 100k to speak.

More black & white than that it does not get. Same for Beck who was all for TARP etc...

Just plain old party crashers...pup intended :)

"Neocon Palin..."

Now she's a "Neocon"? Ten bucks says the person who posted that doesn't even know what one is. :)

That's the problem with being an empty vessel. People will put anything in it they like.

Anyhow, I'm travelling in Lao this week and when I travel is about the only time I ever see TV. Seems, from what i can gather, as like the "Tea Party" which I had thought was more of a constitutionalist movement, was briefly co-opted by the heartless Libertarians and quickly in turn co-opted by a far right movement not seen in America since the John Birchers. The politics of hate seems to be a trend that's just getting started world-wide. I'll check back on it next year.

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I think the Tea Party's days are numbered, at least at being a respected force in politics. Because of many of their recent actions I think they are becoming more of a radical fringe group and more people should be treating them as such.

The Tea "Party" isn't a "Party". It is a loose coalition of independents scattered around the US that have begun to realize just how much the US Constitution is being trampled by this administration.

Many people are trying to claim it for their own but so far have really not succeeded. If it ever becomes a party, the movement will die.

Obama shoved his health bill down the throats of the American people and they are not happy about it. I have a feeling that his problems with the Tea Party - and the electorate - is just beginning.

Obama shoved his health bill down the throats of the American people and they are not happy about it. I have a feeling that his problems with the Tea Party - and the electorate - is just beginning.

Agreed.

Obama shoved his health bill down the throats of the American people and they are not happy about it. I have a feeling that his problems with the Tea Party - and the electorate - is just beginning.

Agreed.

Sorry, I don't think anything was forced on the American people. Almost all the polls done showed that most Americans wanted health care reform and many favored a public option. Fox was the only news source to disagree, surprise, surprise. Even most international news sources stated the same data, like the BBC.

Besides, the Tea Party does not represent the American people. They represent angry, fearful, isolated, middle class, white Christians. Think about, see any Blacks at their protests, Asians, Hispanics, any one besides white folks with a Midwestern or Southern speech style? They are proving this as well when they stand at the House and scream and spit on the minority public officials. They have publicly attacked Blacks, Jews and those believed by them to be gay with racial and religious slurs. There is now a nice little video of them verbally abusing a man with Parkinson's disease who was supporting a public option, they called him a freeloader. The man has a genetic disorder and the insurance companies didn't want to pay for it, so they cut him off according to his sign, is that really fair? Sounds like the America's Brown Shirts to me.

Plus all the news talk guys that support the Tea Party are calling for violence as well. A Right-wing blogger named Solly tweeted that someone should try to kill the President. After we had the Holocaust Museum shooting and then a nut job flying his plane into an IRS building. Is that really wise to call for violence? Don't forget Glenn Beck who keeps urging people to get prepared to 'do something about it' while he swings a baseball bat around convincing people that Hitler was a communist and American progressives like Teddy and FDR and Wilson helped start the Nazi movement in Germany. Which is why Americans shouldn't trust liberals, they're Nazummists! According to him Nazis, Communists and socialist are all the same bird. Really, so the whole rhetoric of the Nazis and killing communists, sending them to prison camps, was just for show? They didn't really mean it? I love it with people rewrite history to support their current goals at gaining power and influence.

I forgot to mention the violence that is happening right now. People have began to vandalize Democrat offices and are sending death threats to congressmen, even at their home some of this is happening. They are just sore losers who refuse to use the American system they praise so much and instead choose to turn to violence. Kinda like all those extreme Muslim types, don't ya think?

Nope, sorry the Tea Party is not America. They are fringe and getting worse. They just might become the next source of homegrown terrorism in America. I wonder if the government will be allowed to water broad them?

Nope, sorry the Tea Party is not America. They are fringe and getting worse. They just might become the next source of homegrown terrorism in America. I wonder if the government will be allowed to water broad them?

Actually you along with most have it wrong....As those who tell you you have it right are just false flagging it.

It is the government that is elected not Americans ....As such & as always it is the people not the govt that is America

Chuck described it best a few posts back....

The Tea "Party" isn't a "Party". It is a loose coalition of independents scattered around the US that have begun to realize just how much the US Constitution is being trampled by this administration.

Many people are trying to claim it for their own but so far have really not succeeded. If it ever becomes a party, the movement will die.

Believe what you will via news feeds but Chucks description it correct. The news feeds are bought & paid for.

The American people do want health reform - including me. What they don't want is Obama's plan and especially right now when the economy is in such dire straights.

As far as the negative things that you have mentioned about the Tea Party, I get the idea that is only a very tiny minority. :)

The American people do want health reform - including me. What they don't want is Obama's plan and especially right now when the economy is in such dire straights.

As far as the negative things that you have mentioned about the Tea Party, I get the idea that is only a very tiny minority. :)

Would the billions of dollars spent, and continuing to be spent, on foreign invasions and military aid to another foreign nation for it's criminal aspirations have anything to do with the dire economic straights?

Surely foreign policy should take a backseat to domestic welfare?.....Unless foregin policy is designed to boost the economy in the long run?

You are completely off topic once again. :)

Technically, and pedantically, calling a post off topic is in itself off topic. (chuck is starting to influence me....I figure fight fire with fire....if you can call pedantic technicalities "fighting").

But to respond directly.....I responded directly to your post and your only response is that I am off topic?????

Great reply UG...showing your usual pithiness (sic), lack of comprehension, and illogical perception (or lack thereof).

You are completely off topic once again. :)

Technically, and pedantically, calling a post off topic is in itself off topic. (chuck is starting to influence me....I figure fight fire with fire....if you can call pedantic technicalities "fighting").

But to respond directly.....I responded directly to your post and your only response is that I am off topic?????

Great reply UG...showing your usual pithiness (sic), lack of comprehension, and illogical perception (or lack thereof).

it has been posted countless times that the military creates many jobs and in fact helps the economy so save the broken record for a different time.

You are completely off topic once again. :D

Technically, and pedantically, calling a post off topic is in itself off topic.

I'm sure that everyone is impressed by your personal brand of "logic". :)

You are completely off topic once again. :)

Technically, and pedantically, calling a post off topic is in itself off topic. (chuck is starting to influence me....I figure fight fire with fire....if you can call pedantic technicalities "fighting").

But to respond directly.....I responded directly to your post and your only response is that I am off topic?????

Great reply UG...showing your usual pithiness (sic), lack of comprehension, and illogical perception (or lack thereof).

When you finally spell an unusual word correctly, why do you feel it necessary to write (sic) following it? :D

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/pithiness

Obama shoved his health bill down the throats of the American people and they are not happy about it. I have a feeling that his problems with the Tea Party - and the electorate - is just beginning.

Agreed.

Sorry, I don't think anything was forced on the American people. Almost all the polls done showed that most Americans wanted health care reform and many favored a public option. Fox was the only news source to disagree, surprise, surprise. Even most international news sources stated the same data, like the BBC.

Besides, the Tea Party does not represent the American people. They represent angry, fearful, isolated, middle class, white Christians. Think about, see any Blacks at their protests, Asians, Hispanics, any one besides white folks with a Midwestern or Southern speech style? They are proving this as well when they stand at the House and scream and spit on the minority public officials. They have publicly attacked Blacks, Jews and those believed by them to be gay with racial and religious slurs. There is now a nice little video of them verbally abusing a man with Parkinson's disease who was supporting a public option, they called him a freeloader. The man has a genetic disorder and the insurance companies didn't want to pay for it, so they cut him off according to his sign, is that really fair? Sounds like the America's Brown Shirts to me.

Plus all the news talk guys that support the Tea Party are calling for violence as well. A Right-wing blogger named Solly tweeted that someone should try to kill the President. After we had the Holocaust Museum shooting and then a nut job flying his plane into an IRS building. Is that really wise to call for violence? Don't forget Glenn Beck who keeps urging people to get prepared to 'do something about it' while he swings a baseball bat around convincing people that Hitler was a communist and American progressives like Teddy and FDR and Wilson helped start the Nazi movement in Germany. Which is why Americans shouldn't trust liberals, they're Nazummists! According to him Nazis, Communists and socialist are all the same bird. Really, so the whole rhetoric of the Nazis and killing communists, sending them to prison camps, was just for show? They didn't really mean it? I love it with people rewrite history to support their current goals at gaining power and influence.

I forgot to mention the violence that is happening right now. People have began to vandalize Democrat offices and are sending death threats to congressmen, even at their home some of this is happening. They are just sore losers who refuse to use the American system they praise so much and instead choose to turn to violence. Kinda like all those extreme Muslim types, don't ya think?

Nope, sorry the Tea Party is not America. They are fringe and getting worse. They just might become the next source of homegrown terrorism in America. I wonder if the government will be allowed to water broad them?

Mr. BeBop:

I will provide only the links that prove your statement about the majority of American wanting health care reform as proposed and passed by the Democrats. You may then decide whether you have made a serious misstatement or not.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_con...lth_care_reform

http://abcnews.go.com/PollingUnit/Politics...tory?id=9593912

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/17/a...o_n_502439.html

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405...2429438938.html

http://realclearpolitics.blogs.time.com/20...oppose-hc-bill/

http://www.gallup.com/poll/126521/Favor-Op...hcare-Plan.aspx

Of those links provided above, only The Huffington Post gives the nod to health care reform by a 46 to 45% poll. The remainder of the polls state more Americans do NOT want the health care reform as proposed, and ultimately passed.

The rest of your post doesn't really deserve a response.

Nope, sorry the Tea Party is not America. They are fringe and getting worse. They just might become the next source of homegrown terrorism in America. I wonder if the government will be allowed to water broad them?

Actually you along with most have it wrong....As those who tell you you have it right are just false flagging it.

It is the government that is elected not Americans ....As such & as always it is the people not the govt that is America

Chuck described it best a few posts back....

The Tea "Party" isn't a "Party". It is a loose coalition of independents scattered around the US that have begun to realize just how much the US Constitution is being trampled by this administration.

Many people are trying to claim it for their own but so far have really not succeeded. If it ever becomes a party, the movement will die.

Believe what you will via news feeds but Chucks description it correct. The news feeds are bought & paid for.

I never said that they were a real political party, they are commonly referred to as the Tea Party, which is why I included Party. Other than that point it is unclear to me what you are trying to say. The demographics of the Tea Party doesn't include the complete view of the American population. Even they make that clear by suggesting that those who support the health care changes are just welfare users, which means minorities, who are not represented in the Tea Party.

You are completely off topic once again. :)

Technically, and pedantically, calling a post off topic is in itself off topic. (chuck is starting to influence me....I figure fight fire with fire....if you can call pedantic technicalities "fighting").

But to respond directly.....I responded directly to your post and your only response is that I am off topic?????

Great reply UG...showing your usual pithiness (sic), lack of comprehension, and illogical perception (or lack thereof).

I don't think he is off topic. As you just stated UG, because of the economy now is not a good time for the reform. Republicans have claimed it's too expensive, yet they are approving nuclear missile systems overhauls and increasing military aid to countries help us fight the war of terror. So, those other things are so much more expensive, why can't some money be used for health care reform, regardless of what kind of reform.

Simple, the Republicans as well as the Democrats work for these companies, not the American people. The Republicans have no problem letting people know that, they barely cover up their lies and paper trails. The Democrats are a bit more careful about it, but they, make the same deals. Forgot, his name but one Democrat left his office a few months back and went to work for the lobbyists he worked closely with while in office. So, they aren't going to spend money on healthcare because the lobbyists don't want them too, but they will spend money on newer nukes and middle east wars because the industrial military complex makes money off of it.

So, if money is a main concern I think Harcourt is off topic.

Obama shoved his health bill down the throats of the American people and they are not happy about it. I have a feeling that his problems with the Tea Party - and the electorate - is just beginning.

Agreed.

Sorry, I don't think anything was forced on the American people. Almost all the polls done showed that most Americans wanted health care reform and many favored a public option. Fox was the only news source to disagree, surprise, surprise. Even most international news sources stated the same data, like the BBC.

Besides, the Tea Party does not represent the American people. They represent angry, fearful, isolated, middle class, white Christians. Think about, see any Blacks at their protests, Asians, Hispanics, any one besides white folks with a Midwestern or Southern speech style? They are proving this as well when they stand at the House and scream and spit on the minority public officials. They have publicly attacked Blacks, Jews and those believed by them to be gay with racial and religious slurs. There is now a nice little video of them verbally abusing a man with Parkinson's disease who was supporting a public option, they called him a freeloader. The man has a genetic disorder and the insurance companies didn't want to pay for it, so they cut him off according to his sign, is that really fair? Sounds like the America's Brown Shirts to me.

Plus all the news talk guys that support the Tea Party are calling for violence as well. A Right-wing blogger named Solly tweeted that someone should try to kill the President. After we had the Holocaust Museum shooting and then a nut job flying his plane into an IRS building. Is that really wise to call for violence? Don't forget Glenn Beck who keeps urging people to get prepared to 'do something about it' while he swings a baseball bat around convincing people that Hitler was a communist and American progressives like Teddy and FDR and Wilson helped start the Nazi movement in Germany. Which is why Americans shouldn't trust liberals, they're Nazummists! According to him Nazis, Communists and socialist are all the same bird. Really, so the whole rhetoric of the Nazis and killing communists, sending them to prison camps, was just for show? They didn't really mean it? I love it with people rewrite history to support their current goals at gaining power and influence.

I forgot to mention the violence that is happening right now. People have began to vandalize Democrat offices and are sending death threats to congressmen, even at their home some of this is happening. They are just sore losers who refuse to use the American system they praise so much and instead choose to turn to violence. Kinda like all those extreme Muslim types, don't ya think?

Nope, sorry the Tea Party is not America. They are fringe and getting worse. They just might become the next source of homegrown terrorism in America. I wonder if the government will be allowed to water broad them?

Mr. BeBop:

I will provide only the links that prove your statement about the majority of American wanting health care reform as proposed and passed by the Democrats. You may then decide whether you have made a serious misstatement or not.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_con...lth_care_reform

http://abcnews.go.com/PollingUnit/Politics...tory?id=9593912

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/17/a...o_n_502439.html

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405...2429438938.html

http://realclearpolitics.blogs.time.com/20...oppose-hc-bill/

http://www.gallup.com/poll/126521/Favor-Op...hcare-Plan.aspx

Of those links provided above, only The Huffington Post gives the nod to health care reform by a 46 to 45% poll. The remainder of the polls state more Americans do NOT want the health care reform as proposed, and ultimately passed.

The rest of your post doesn't really deserve a response.

What the polls here are not showing is how many feel that the new bill is a sell out, which is why they are opposed. Many feel betrayed by Obama and not just those on the right, but many on the left as well. Me personally, I am not surprised that nothing has worked to the advantage of the people, regardless of what side they are on. These people don't work for us they are corporate employees looking after the bottom line as their lobbyist minders draw it for them.

Now, I am sorry you think that they rest of my post does not deserve response. I am sad that people screaming nigger at other people over politics doesn't deserve to be addressed in your eyes. I can only assume that you refuse to believe that this has occurred or you have no problem with it, another sad factor if so.

You are completely off topic once again. :)

Technically, and pedantically, calling a post off topic is in itself off topic. (chuck is starting to influence me....I figure fight fire with fire....if you can call pedantic technicalities "fighting").

But to respond directly.....I responded directly to your post and your only response is that I am off topic?????

Great reply UG...showing your usual pithiness (sic), lack of comprehension, and illogical perception (or lack thereof).

When you finally spell an unusual word correctly, why do you feel it necessary to write (sic) following it? :D

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/pithiness

:D. I had already made my point that UG's one-liners are not pithy because they are never meaningfull, thus, in using "(sic)" I was alluding to the error of the use of "pithy" and that it was a quoted word.

Sic adv. Thus; so. Used to indicate that a quoted passage, especially one containing an error or unconventional spelling, has been retained in its original form or written intentionally.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/sic

Your attempt to pull me up with misuse has backfired and only goes to show your own limited vocab....again. Why do you never point out your cohorts spelling mistakes?

Nope, sorry the Tea Party is not America. They are fringe and getting worse. They just might become the next source of homegrown terrorism in America. I wonder if the government will be allowed to water broad them?

Other than that point it is unclear to me what you are trying to say.

Let me say it clearly then....

When you said...........

Nope, sorry the Tea Party is not America. They are fringe and getting worse. They just might become the next source of homegrown terrorism in America.

You are way off base...

Home grown terrorism? More like America's constitutional guards.

But again if you are attributing the real/original tea party movement with the high jacked ones....the false flag news feeds would have you believe are the tea party then your confused from the start.

Obama shoved his health bill down the throats of the American people and they are not happy about it. I have a feeling that his problems with the Tea Party - and the electorate - is just beginning.

Agreed.

Sorry, I don't think anything was forced on the American people. Almost all the polls done showed that most Americans wanted health care reform and many favored a public option. Fox was the only news source to disagree, surprise, surprise. Even most international news sources stated the same data, like the BBC.

Besides, the Tea Party does not represent the American people. They represent angry, fearful, isolated, middle class, white Christians. Think about, see any Blacks at their protests, Asians, Hispanics, any one besides white folks with a Midwestern or Southern speech style? They are proving this as well when they stand at the House and scream and spit on the minority public officials. They have publicly attacked Blacks, Jews and those believed by them to be gay with racial and religious slurs. There is now a nice little video of them verbally abusing a man with Parkinson's disease who was supporting a public option, they called him a freeloader. The man has a genetic disorder and the insurance companies didn't want to pay for it, so they cut him off according to his sign, is that really fair? Sounds like the America's Brown Shirts to me.

Plus all the news talk guys that support the Tea Party are calling for violence as well. A Right-wing blogger named Solly tweeted that someone should try to kill the President. After we had the Holocaust Museum shooting and then a nut job flying his plane into an IRS building. Is that really wise to call for violence? Don't forget Glenn Beck who keeps urging people to get prepared to 'do something about it' while he swings a baseball bat around convincing people that Hitler was a communist and American progressives like Teddy and FDR and Wilson helped start the Nazi movement in Germany. Which is why Americans shouldn't trust liberals, they're Nazummists! According to him Nazis, Communists and socialist are all the same bird. Really, so the whole rhetoric of the Nazis and killing communists, sending them to prison camps, was just for show? They didn't really mean it? I love it with people rewrite history to support their current goals at gaining power and influence.

I forgot to mention the violence that is happening right now. People have began to vandalize Democrat offices and are sending death threats to congressmen, even at their home some of this is happening. They are just sore losers who refuse to use the American system they praise so much and instead choose to turn to violence. Kinda like all those extreme Muslim types, don't ya think?

Nope, sorry the Tea Party is not America. They are fringe and getting worse. They just might become the next source of homegrown terrorism in America. I wonder if the government will be allowed to water broad them?

Mr. BeBop:

I will provide only the links that prove your statement about the majority of American wanting health care reform as proposed and passed by the Democrats. You may then decide whether you have made a serious misstatement or not.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_con...lth_care_reform

http://abcnews.go.com/PollingUnit/Politics...tory?id=9593912

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/17/a...o_n_502439.html

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405...2429438938.html

http://realclearpolitics.blogs.time.com/20...oppose-hc-bill/

http://www.gallup.com/poll/126521/Favor-Op...hcare-Plan.aspx

Of those links provided above, only The Huffington Post gives the nod to health care reform by a 46 to 45% poll. The remainder of the polls state more Americans do NOT want the health care reform as proposed, and ultimately passed.

The rest of your post doesn't really deserve a response.

Here Chuck, watch the second video down with Eric Cantor and tell me that the violence nature of the Tea Party isn't worth addressing.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/20100325/ts_ynews/ynews_ts1335

Nope, sorry the Tea Party is not America. They are fringe and getting worse. They just might become the next source of homegrown terrorism in America. I wonder if the government will be allowed to water broad them?

Other than that point it is unclear to me what you are trying to say.

Let me say it clearly then....

When you said...........

Nope, sorry the Tea Party is not America. They are fringe and getting worse. They just might become the next source of homegrown terrorism in America.

You are way off base...

Home grown terrorism? More like America's constitutional guards.

But again if you are attributing the real/original tea party movement with the high jacked ones....the false flag news feeds would have you believe are the tea party then your confused from the start.

The link I gave Chuck, you watch it too. Shooting bullets through people's windows because a bill passed you didn't like is not guarding the constitution, it's terrorizing people. Flying planes into government buildings like that nut job in Texas because you don't like big government is not protecting the constitution, it's a terror tactic. Sorry, but Tea baggers are a growing threat to America.

Other than that point it is unclear to me what you are trying to say.

Let me say it clearly then....

When you said...........

Nope, sorry the Tea Party is not America. They are fringe and getting worse. They just might become the next source of homegrown terrorism in America.

You are way off base...

Home grown terrorism? More like America's constitutional guards.

But again if you are attributing the real/original tea party movement with the high jacked ones....the false flag news feeds would have you believe are the tea party then your confused from the start.

The link I gave Chuck, you watch it too. Shooting bullets through people's windows because a bill passed you didn't like is not guarding the constitution, it's terrorizing people. Flying planes into government buildings like that nut job in Texas because you don't like big government is not protecting the constitution, it's a terror tactic. Sorry, but Tea baggers are a growing threat to America.

How do you know the out-of-line Tea "baggers" are not SEIU employees trying to give the movement a bad name? How do you know the threats are not coming from AFL-CIO members attempting to harm the Republican Party? It has happened before.

The Tea Party movement is not a threat to America or the Constitution. It is a threat to those politicians that seem to feel they can go against the will of the American people and face no recourse. Washington is the system that is broken and out of control, not the people.

I had already seen your link. Did you watch the interview segment between Bill O'Reilly and Congressman Weiner? If you did, then perhaps you can tell me who Weiner claimed is going to determine compliance with the unconstitutional requirement that all citizens purchase health care. Is it the IRS, Capitol Police, HHS Inspectors, Secret Service? Precisely what answer did Weiner provide?

Edit in: I just noticed you wanted me to watch the Cantor statement. I have now watched it. What's your point? He is from the opposition party and has condemned the incidents. Why isn't this good?

I am sad that people screaming nigger at other people over politics doesn't deserve to be addressed in your eyes. I can only assume that you refuse to believe that this has occurred or you have no problem with it, another sad factor if so.

Your assumption would be incorrect, as are most of your so-called facts.

It is precisely because of inflammatory remarks such as this that causes me to choose not to respond.

It is still my choice to determine what I wish to address in your posts.

Edit in: Just for your information, the man, Joseph Stack, that flew his plane into the IRS building in Austin was a registered Democrat.

The link I gave Chuck, you watch it too. Shooting bullets through people's windows because a bill passed you didn't like is not guarding the constitution, it's terrorizing people. Flying planes into government buildings like that nut job in Texas because you don't like big government is not protecting the constitution, it's a terror tactic. Sorry, but Tea baggers are a growing threat to America.

How do you know the out-of-line Tea "baggers" are not SEIU employees trying to give the movement a bad name? How do you know the threats are not coming from AFL-CIO members attempting to harm the Republican Party? It has happened before.

The Tea Party movement is not a threat to America or the Constitution. It is a threat to those politicians that seem to feel they can go against the will of the American people and face no recourse. Washington is the system that is broken and out of control, not the people.

I had already seen your link. Did you watch the interview segment between Bill O'Reilly and Congressman Weiner? If you did, then perhaps you can tell me who Weiner claimed is going to determine compliance with the unconstitutional requirement that all citizens purchase health care. Is it the IRS, Capitol Police, HHS Inspectors, Secret Service? Precisely what answer did Weiner provide?

Edit in: I just noticed you wanted me to watch the Cantor statement. I have now watched it. What's your point? He is from the opposition party and has condemned the incidents. Why isn't this good?

You said their violent nature wasn't worth discussing, yet it seems a Republican feels he should make a statement against the same thing you said you wouldn't address. So, it seems a much bigger issue. It seems that the violent actions and statements need to be addressed and people warned that the law still applies too them.

Yes, I watched the interview between O'Reilly and Wiener and neither seemed to be willing to listen to the other. Typical American politics, who knows who had a better point, they were to busy yelling at each other, which I might add O'Reilly does quite often. Wiener however said that the lack of insurance was not being criminalized, therefore it seemed to me to be a tax issue, like a lot of other things. It's over what one can claim and not claim on tax forms, what is a deductible and what isn't. There is no crime here.

I am sad that people screaming nigger at other people over politics doesn't deserve to be addressed in your eyes. I can only assume that you refuse to believe that this has occurred or you have no problem with it, another sad factor if so.

Your assumption would be incorrect, as are most of your so-called facts.

It is precisely because of inflammatory remarks such as this that causes me to choose not to respond.

It is still my choice to determine what I wish to address in your posts.

Edit in: Just for your information, the man, Joseph Stack, that flew his plane into the IRS building in Austin was a registered Democrat.

Yeah and in his internet posts or his blog whatever he claimed he was a libertarian. Do you know what party the Holocaust shooter was a member of?

As far as facts, they have video of it. It's all over the place. You want me to find some for you? Just check YouTube if you guys still get it in Thailand. I was told it came back awhile ago, but never know. Anyway, there are so many videos that defend and attack the Tea Party over racism and other ugly issues. I for one have seen to many that show people I feel are racist. My Grandfather, though I love him very much, is a Tea Party supporter, as are many of his friends. All NRA card carrying Republicans. Each one of them refuse to refer to Obama as the President, but instead as a no account %&$^%, yes, that word. Judge Sotomayor according to them is a illegal W^*%&k, who cheated our God given system. I know for a fact that many may watch their tongues when cameras are around but somewhere somehow they slip, like my Grandfather and his friends who believe that Obama is a godless, yet Muslim, and attending a church, who is a Nazi commie socialist. None of that makes sense, yet that is what comes out of these mens mouths. Just watch Beck, my Grandfather loves that man and says he is telling the truth! What truth? The whole Nazi thing I explained earlier, his different version of history.

I am sorry Chuck, but you are in Thailand. I am in the midwest, in Kansas, where I had a customer of mine tell me he has stocked up his guns and can't wait for the N&(*^*r to come get them. I know these Tea Party folks personally and I fear what they might do out of their fear. Believe me they aren't protecting America or it's constitution, most don't even know enough American history outside what their church or Glenn Beck has told them.

I hope I don't sound nasty, I don't mean nor want to be. I am deeply concerned however at what I hear real Tea Party people tell me, and when I see some of it mirrored in the news I fear things will get out of control. hel_l man, they are already shooting out windows, how long until they start aiming at people?

most don't even know enough American history outside what their church or Glenn Beck has told them.

I hope I don't sound nasty, I don't mean nor want to be. I am deeply concerned however at what I hear real Tea Party people tell me, and when I see some of it mirrored in the news I fear things will get out of control. hel_l man, they are already shooting out windows, how long until they start aiming at people?

Yeah seeing this post of yours confirms my suspicion that you are deluded....not in a bad way mind you

But you have been duped along with others into believing those folks are the original Tea Party

All your seeing is the hijackers

But your in the mid west so good luck to you...That area could get a bit hairy

Because by your own description you have some real nut cases near by eh? But again they are not the real deal as in tea party

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