Foreigners Joining Red-Shirts Rally

[morphem]

Isn't this what Americans always do? Get involved where not needed.

I remember some places like Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan (2x), Iraq, covert in South America.

It's in their genes, they can't seem to help it.

you forgot WWI and WWII. the bastards. the world would be so much better with france as a suburb of nazi germany, no?

yeah and the US woould be much better as a suburb of england if it was not for the french help DONKEY!!

hehe Touche

[krakatoa]

Any foreigner associating himself with the red shirted clowns should at the very least have his very simple head read and at the other end of the spectrum be put against a wall facing 10 automatic rifles.

What a bunch of "chok wow"

[animatic]

Just got off the phone with my wife's boss and he wanted me to go undercover. So I am going to get these guys names and addresses and information at the rally tomorrow morning so that they can be deported later on. Tonight he is taking me to karaoke. Ah, the good life.

and the guy is proud to be a cockroach .... i really wish you get run over by a bus ... my grand father went in buchenwald because of people like you ... i dont even have an insult strong enough to describe you

Quisling!

[MB1]

Just got off the phone with my wife's boss and he wanted me to go undercover. So I am going to get these guys names and addresses and information at the rally tomorrow morning so that they can be deported later on. Tonight he is taking me to karaoke. Ah, the good life.

and the guy is proud to be a cockroach .... i really wish you get run over by a bus ... my grand father went in buchenwald because of people like you ... i dont even have an insult strong enough to describe you

Quisling!

“Hope has returned to the hearts of scores of millions of men and women, and with that hope there burns the flame of anger against the brutal, corrupt invader. And still more fiercely burn the fires of hatred and contempt for the filthy Quislings whom he has suborned.”

Winston Churchill 26th December 1941.

[johncitizen]

Any foreigner associating himself with the red shirted clowns should at the very least have his very simple head read and at the other end of the spectrum be put against a wall facing 10 automatic rifles.

Where do I sign up?

[SiriusBlack1]

If I thought it would help their movement to get the people's voice heard again in Thai politics, I would consider dressing up in red and jumping on one of their vehicles. But I don't think it would. Too much support from foreigners makes people wonder whose interests are really being served, kind of like the scandal when Bill Clinton was found to have taken campaign contributions from Indonesia. It looks bad. I's better we stay on the sidelines.

[KireB]

Any foreigner associating himself with the red shirted clowns should at the very least have his very simple head read and at the other end of the spectrum be put against a wall facing 10 automatic rifles.

Where do I sign up?

You can sign up on Thanon Kwai Nam, number 123. Just ask any local taxi driver to take you up there. Goodluck

[morphem]

Any foreigner associating himself with the red shirted clowns should at the very least have his very simple head read and at the other end of the spectrum be put against a wall facing 10 automatic rifles.

What a bunch of "chok wow"

Any foreigner not supporting the red shirts basic demands should be sent on a 10 years visa to Burma.

Here's your post corrected Kakatoes

[hardy1943]

Let foreigners do what they want. Foreign born and foreign educated Abhisit seems to be doing just fine!

And yet he speaks Thai better than 99% of Thais.

He has 1000 times more education then the Thai.

Did you ever hear of anyone ever coming here to get an education?

I guess we all are in a way

Edited April 9, 2010 by hardy1943

[johncat1]

Just a thought But how did the different groups arrive at their chosen colour ?

Red is associated with communism and normally considered a bad political colour ( unless you are a communist )

And Yellow is associated with the King and is considered a good colour

Or did somebody's wife just select the colour because it went with her outfit that day ? :D

[lounger]

Just a thought But how did the different groups arrive at their chosen colour ?

Red is associated with communism and normally considered a bad political colour ( unless you are a communist )

And Yellow is associated with the King and is considered a good colour

Or did somebody's wife just select the colour because it went with her outfit that day ?

Red is considered lucky in China. There are many Thais with Chinese origins.....Thaksin is.

[Tanaka]

Looking at the replies of some of the longer term residents I am sure that their mental development is severely flawed or severely damaged in some way, the lack of political knowledge and indeed any conception of the corruption involved in the Thai political spectrum indicates that either a total lobotomy has been performed or it's a case of ''what the wife tells me I believe.''

Klose, a resident of Bangkok and Ubon Ratchathani, added that it was his third time at the protests and he was hoping a dissolution of Parliament would help resolve the current chasm.

"This is becoming a people's movement. The country has been divided in the last month and I am worried about the direction it is heading in," said Frank Klose, a German who has been living in Thailand for the past 20 years.

I am here to support freedom of speech, freedom of protest and corruption free elections. We should have a democracy without interference like in the US,"

However, he admitted he was not too knowledgeable about Thai politics, and mainly came in support of his Thai wife, who is a strong activist.

That Klose, is very much in the wrong place if that is what he wishes for but I suppose he was carrying the wife's lunchbox. And did not even have enough IQ to keep his mouth shut. And like the US elections are without any interference. Yeah right. But maybe depending on his definition of interference.

Edited April 9, 2010 by Tanaka

[rogerdee123]

Just a thought But how did the different groups arrive at their chosen colour ?

Red is associated with communism and normally considered a bad political colour ( unless you are a communist )

And Yellow is associated with the King and is considered a good colour

Or did somebody's wife just select the colour because it went with her outfit that day ? :D

I guess not many here old enough to remember the "Red Gaur" ... a different set of dynamics completely .... but they came from the same geo area.

[euro82]

The U.S. Embassy has advised all Americans to stay away from those areas... I read that to include no going on stage.... That guy is nutso, mahk mahk.

I believe I read, in going thru the thread, that the guy in the picture was American, BUT the guy on stage was a Brit....

Did anyone else read that.....

Nutso's come in many forms...... maybe in some people who get carried away with posting.

yes I posted about it already before. the picture is misleading. I was there when that english teacher was on stage. It's not tthe guy on the picture. And indeed his accent sounded british to me, not american.

[LindsayBKK]

Just a thought But how did the different groups arrive at their chosen colour ?

Red is associated with communism and normally considered a bad political colour ( unless you are a communist )

And Yellow is associated with the King and is considered a good colour

Or did somebody's wife just select the colour because it went with her outfit that day ? :D

This guy has been in Thailand 15 years?

Well you do lose a few brain cells after a few years especially if you watch Thai Channels 3,5 & 7.

Maybe he thought it was an early Songran.

Just to confuse you even more Yellow shirts are starting new party for the next election.

(Thaksin ex-business partner who got ripped-off by Thaksin.)

Pink Shirts is up and running protesting against the red shirts protest.

And you also have the White Shirts with Thai flag badge for those who want peace for all.

My bf asked a red shirt what they wanted if there was a dissolution of parliament

the girl said she didn't know. ummm she thinks 'want an election'

She is asked who you vote for? She replies don't know. Just want election.

These are the smart people of the red shirts.

All that they think is Abhisit is bad but can't answer why.

By the way Thaksin does not support the K...

For the red shirts to hold up a picture when riding around in their truck is a lie.

Thaksin wants to be President of Thailand. Fact!

TV Station replays over & over Abhisit is bad but they never say why.

Propaganda is not the Thai way close the Red Shirts TV Station Down!

If the red shirts are still Central World Tomorrow it's open season

for Songran people to take action against them , water to cool them off.

Happy Songran to all )))))

[LuckyFive8888]

They (foreginers) crossed the line now didn't they?

Soon, visa restrictions, work permit restrictions, overstayed tourist crackdown, pub curfew, etc.

[elshaheen]

To some, this is just a circus to them and they want to be apart of it.

They will get their picture taken and say, "look mother, I'm a rable now!"

[SGhawker]

Didn't Americans enter the war in Europe in June 1944, way too late and only after they realized the war would be won and world divided without them... You forget who won the war while you secured your backgardn from Japs.

Sorry, this is the biggest load of bullsh*t I've ever read on here... and that's really saying something.

I'm a brit but I know my history, if it hadn't been for the US joining the allies we'd have been totally f*cked in WWII. Simple as.

Yep, you would be and almost were. And I have full respect to US, Brits, Canadians and other soldiers fallen.

But it was neither Brits or Americans but Soviets who broke down Nazis. By summer 1944 the outcome of war in Europe was clearly on their advancing side. Allies entered the war (actual entry not declaration) just in time to prevent Russians going further west and take their part in post-war map. Big politics ruled at that stage more then saving brave france.

US troops supposed to be in Europe in 1940-41 and then millions of lives would have been saved. Simple as.

Sorry for OT but I just cannot stand those self-claimed US declaration being world savior before and now.

Edited April 9, 2010 by SGhawker

[whiterussian]

Just a thought But how did the different groups arrive at their chosen colour ?

Red is associated with communism and normally considered a bad political colour ( unless you are a communist )

And Yellow is associated with the King and is considered a good colour

Or did somebody's wife just select the colour because it went with her outfit that day ?

How close you are!

[whiterussian]

Just a thought But how did the different groups arrive at their chosen colour ?

* reply deleted for fear of life and limb.

Edited April 9, 2010 by whiterussian

[anotherpeter]

Any foreigner associating himself with the red shirted clowns should at the very least have his very simple head read and at the other end of the spectrum be put against a wall facing 10 automatic rifles.

What a bunch of "chok wow"

Any foreigner not supporting the red shirts basic demands should be sent on a 10 years visa to Burma.

Here's your post corrected Kakatoes

Which basic demands are those? Bring back Thaksin?

[bkksteviejai]

I have reported all of these foreigners by name and nationality + picture to the Immigration Bureau. My wife, her sister and her brother-in-law all have fairly high up jobs there. Would be very surprised if they are not deported.

oooohhh............no one like a grass

[cdnmatt]

And again with loads of folks being hypocritical. More than likely, if this was your home country, and you knew an immigrant who lived there for 15+ years, good guy, setup a successful business, and all that jazz... I doubt you'd be saying he should keep his mouth shut, as he doesn't deserve a voice. He's lived in the country for 15+ years, so he knows about the way of life just as much as you.

Same goes for farangs in Thailand. If someone has been here for 15+ years, why such a huge uproar because he decided to pick a political affiliation? That's just simply stupid, and a prime example of why many farangs who live in Thailand for too long end up fuc_ked in the head.

[britmaveric]

^TIT and like most 3rd world countries involving yourself in protests like this or the yellows could end you up in jail or worse. I suppose if you are willing to take that risk then so be it, but don't cry foul when something bad happens.

Edited April 9, 2010 by britmaveric

[on-on]

And again with loads of folks being hypocritical. More than likely, if this was your home country, and you knew an immigrant who lived there for 15+ years, good guy, setup a successful business, and all that jazz... I doubt you'd be saying he should keep his mouth shut, as he doesn't deserve a voice. He's lived in the country for 15+ years, so he knows about the way of life just as much as you.

Same goes for farangs in Thailand. If someone has been here for 15+ years, why such a huge uproar because he decided to pick a political affiliation? That's just simply stupid, and a prime example of why many farangs who live in Thailand for too long end up fuc_ked in the head.

I agree with the principle and I hope Thailand - hel_l, most of Asia - gets there someday, but most of this continent has a century of multicultural education headed its way like a freight train. Until ethnicity isn't tied to nationality it's probably better for all farangs if no farangs rock the boat too much. That being said, I'm a Westerner and I can't really take pot shots at a guy who has lived here and has citizenship and is participating in the political process of his country. If these protesters are just teachers on work visas or sex pensioners, though, that's another matter. In most of the West we wouldn't take too kindly to a bunch of non-citizen work visa recipients showing up at political rallies and making speeches about internal political affairs. If they're citizens, or have PR and are on the way to being citizens then it seems to me they've got as much right as anyone else to be up there (annoying as it may be to have farang faces associated with Thai politics). Simply marrying someone and buying property and running a business and spending ten years somewhere doesn't count as citizenship anywhere I've ever heard of, though. It's a substantial commitment, but citizenship is not the same as "living somewhere." It involves acculturation, education, accepting some form of social contract and the rest.

[yoshiwara]

Any foreigner associating himself with the red shirted clowns should at the very least have his very simple head read and at the other end of the spectrum be put against a wall facing 10 automatic rifles.

What a bunch of "chok wow"

Any foreigner not supporting the red shirts basic demands should be sent on a 10 years visa to Burma.

Here's your post corrected Kakatoes

No doubt the foreigners in some contributors minds should be put up against the wall together with the gays who are so disliked by the bigot Thaksin.

When such reds talk about the class war, they are usually commentating as petty bourgeois elements full of their own bravado.

In truth they are more brown shirt than red shirt, more national socialist in spirit.

The spirit of revenge led by Thaksin.

And his bully boys.

[cdnmatt]

^TIT and like most 3rd world countries

Why do people keep insisting Thailand is a 3rd world country? It's not at all. The poorest areas of Thailand are in the villages of Issan, correct? I currently live in Issan, and am out in the village at least one day a week selling food at mama's restaurant to give her the day off. It's definitely poor and everything, but hardly 3rd world conditions. Zimbabwe, Somalia, Ethiopia, and Nigeria are 3rd world countries. Not Thailand. Electricity (and even cell phone coverage), education, and government services are available everywhere in the country.

involving yourself in protests like this or the yellows could end you up in jail or worse.

Not really. How many times have you heard of a farang being thrown in jail for attending a protest. Never, right? Thailand loves its tourism, so I very highly doubt they'll sentence a farang to prison for merely attending a protest and shaking a red clapper around. Worse case scenario, farang draws attention to himself, and gets the shit kicked out of him by people on the street. Nothing to do with the government or police.

Actually, there was one case I remember where some lady was saying not-so-nice things about the King, and she ended up jail. That wasn't because she was at the protest though.

Edited April 9, 2010 by cdnmatt

[britmaveric]

^difference being at a protest and actually protesting. Just look at the lad who was speaking on stage at the red demo the other night? I mean if that isnt crossing the line I don't know what is. However like I said - if you are willing to accept the consequences then so be it.

[on-on]

^TIT and like most 3rd world countries

Why do people keep insisting Thailand is a 3rd world country? It's not at all. The poorest areas of Thailand are in the villages of Issan, correct? I currently live in Issan, and am out in the village at least one day a week selling food at mama's restaurant to give her the day off. It's definitely poor and everything, but hardly 3rd world conditions. Zimbabwe, Somalia, Ethiopia, and Nigeria are 3rd world countries. Not Thailand. Electricity (and even cell phone coverage), education, and government services are available everywhere in the country.

Third world is an outdated term, it doesn't apply anymore. The current terminology is developing country, developed country and a couple of others. They're all specific classifications based on HDI and what not. It's not a feeling, it's empirical insofar as things of this nature can be empirical.

[sjaak327]

^difference being at a protest and actually protesting. Just look at the lad who was speaking on stage at the red demo the other night? I mean if that isnt crossing the line I don't know what is. However like I said - if you are willing to accept the consequences then so be it.

In a normal democracy and with a proper justice system, the guy speaking on stage hasn't crossed any line at all. Now if the same applies in Thailand is another question alltogether..