orang37 Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 (edited) you, giant, orange, sun, sinking, aflame redder as you go drown behind Doi Suthep, making way: for night's stars to hide in haze future's rice in the Ping's valley calling to the Nagas: "give rain," future's blood on Bangkok Sois, barbed wire around the rainbow we're all here: Thai and Farang, on the edge of instincts' abyss, happiness sometimes a curse, unhappiness at times, blessing love songs still sung say love's easy: yet, we refuse surrender Edited April 19, 2010 by orang37 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiPauly Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotlost Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 You really need to lay off smoking that shyt o37. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinnieTheKhwai Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 Suan Prung Hospital is Da PLACE!!! I'm SO overthere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyh Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 This heat really gets to you doesn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mapguy Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 Au contraire! Well put, orang friend! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgriffith Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 A little poetry Never hurt Anyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinnieTheKhwai Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 Roses are Red Violents are Blue Some Poems Rhyme And others don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwish Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 thought ur poem was great made me sign up to forum so I could reply! Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maejo Man Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 Roses are RedViolents are Blue Some Poems Rhyme And others don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eek Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 I always appreciate your threads Orang. Never mind the ones who dont appreciate your brilliant mind! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doppa Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 albums are red albums are blue but in africa albums are black read that in a kids book that got handed down to me as a youngun, guess some people may be offended nowadays. here was me expecting a marvellous sunset photo, anyway 37 what were you doing on the west side of the bank, mmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMX Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 (edited) love songs still sung say love's easy: yet, we refuse surrender And so to REM sleep, one hopes. I'm interested in concluding lines: Not the money, then. Edited April 19, 2010 by CMX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMX Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 The problem for ‘37 Is that his poem didn’t rhyme. Not that such would deaden Comprehending it every time. But for some, a verse that’s blank Cannot mean within its words. They’ll suggest that the thing stank (Lest it be thought they’re all nerds). So if we refuse to drink From the poet’s prime reflections It isn’t that we think – It’s our thinking imperfections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eek Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 you, giant, orange, sun, sinking,aflame redder as you go drown behind Doi Suthep, making way: for night's stars to hide in haze future's rice in the Ping's valley calling to the Nagas: "give rain," future's blood on Bangkok Sois, barbed wire around the rainbow we're all here: Thai and Farang, on the edge of instincts' abyss, happiness sometimes a curse, unhappiness at times, blessing love songs still sung say love's easy: yet, we refuse surrender "unhappiness at times, blessing" Why Orang? Do you mean that sometimes we need to experience unhappiness, to appreciate happiness, or something else? Would be great if you would elaborate on that part. Tnx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orang37 Posted April 19, 2010 Author Share Posted April 19, 2010 "unhappiness at times, blessing" Why Orang? Do you mean that sometimes we need to experience unhappiness, to appreciate happiness, or something else? Sawasdee Khrup Khun Eek, Well, we're only the poets, the deliveryboys for the Muse; I'm afraid the best we can do is to quote Rebbi Nachman of Breslau and, later, Uman, who said, somewhere in the late 18th. or early 19th. century : "Who is a 'whole person' ? : a person who has a 'broken' heart." My human is not Jewish by birth, or "faith," but found this saying very powerful, and later, at 2am in an internet cafe in a guest house Chiang Mai, many years later, finally met, by serendipity (how else ?), a visiting professor from Israel; when asked to explain the meaning of "broken" ... in the translation of the original my human had read ... he said it meant a heart that was "contrite, humbled, imbued with the awareness of mortality, and stood 'naked before God' in awe and wonder, regretting the things he sholuld be ashamed of, but forgiving himself, and asking God's forgiveness." So how do you get a "broken heart" ? Well, chances are ... life ... will ... give you more than one ? Who has not "had one" ? If you have not had one yet, we rejoice in your blessed state, and yet we can't forget one awaits you. When you've had a few (broken hearts) does every moment become more "precious" ? So the answer is : we don't know what it means. best, ~o:37; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave2 Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 doppa. re ..... here was me expecting a marvellous sunset photo, not marvelous i know .... but will this one from the day before do ? enjoy ... dave2 : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackr Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 Never mind the ones who dont appreciate your brilliant mind! Well it's certainly better than anything I could do on the poetry front, but if you want to show us something truly worth appreciating how about a picture of a beautiful sunset, which is what I was expecting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasseru Posted April 20, 2010 Share Posted April 20, 2010 Viewed from the west bank of the Ping? That seems odd. Lovely poem, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinnieTheKhwai Posted April 20, 2010 Share Posted April 20, 2010 Viewed from the west bank of the Ping? That seems odd. Lovely poem, though. Why is that odd? The North or South bank, that would be odd. (Assume it's a condo on Charoen Prathet Rd.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eek Posted April 20, 2010 Share Posted April 20, 2010 Ahh..Orang seems like the sentimental romantic type.. too few of those around imo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasseru Posted April 20, 2010 Share Posted April 20, 2010 (edited) Viewed from the west bank of the Ping? That seems odd. Lovely poem, though. Why is that odd? The North or South bank, that would be odd. (Assume it's a condo on Charoen Prathet Rd.) Just odd in the sense that if you are watching the sunset behind Doi Suthep from the west bank of the Ping river, the river is not in your field of vision at all, so it would be no different from being anywhere else, that's all. Edited April 20, 2010 by Rasseru Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apetley Posted April 20, 2010 Share Posted April 20, 2010 A little poetryNever hurt Anyone Tell Wilfred Owen that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgriffith Posted April 20, 2010 Share Posted April 20, 2010 Roses are RedViolents are Blue Some Poems Rhyme And others don't. Violents are Red wanke_rs are Pink A Spell Check In Time Wouldn't Hurt, I Would Think (Sorry about Wilfred Owen. He died at the age my son is now, 25). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsieurHulot Posted April 20, 2010 Share Posted April 20, 2010 Viewed from the west bank of the Ping? That seems odd. Lovely poem, though. Why is that odd? The North or South bank, that would be odd. (Assume it's a condo on Charoen Prathet Rd.) Just odd in the sense that if you are watching the sunset behind Doi Suthep from the west bank of the Ping river, the river is not in your field of vision at all, so it would be no different from being anywhere else, that's all. Still sharp, even after all those years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orang37 Posted April 21, 2010 Author Share Posted April 21, 2010 (edited) A little poetryNever hurt Anyone Tell Wilfred Owen that. Sawasdee Khrup, Khun McGriffith and Khun Apetley, If you are in the "Dead Poets' Society," please ask Sylvia Plath about that, too. Khun Apetley; what a lovely name ! best, ~o/37; Edited April 21, 2010 by orang37 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orang37 Posted April 21, 2010 Author Share Posted April 21, 2010 Viewed from the west bank of the Ping? That seems odd. Lovely poem, though. Why is that odd? The North or South bank, that would be odd. (Assume it's a condo on Charoen Prathet Rd.) Just odd in the sense that if you are watching the sunset behind Doi Suthep from the west bank of the Ping river, the river is not in your field of vision at all, so it would be no different from being anywhere else, that's all. Still sharp, even after all those years. Sawasdee Khrup, Khun Rasseru, and Khun M. Hulot, Well, we would never speak "bluntly" to such fine young blades as you, but a little "honing," we think is in order here. There is nothing in the poem that implies the author/viewer is looking at the River, or can see the river. But, of course, you are free to project onto any poem anything you like best, ~o:37; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsieurHulot Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 As far as I am concerned, Orang37, I disagree with your last words: "we refuse surrender". As a Frenchman, I like to keep my options open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasseru Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 Sawasdee Khrup, Khun Rasseru, and Khun M. Hulot,Well, we would never speak "bluntly" to such fine young blades as you, but a little "honing," we think is in order here. There is nothing in the poem that implies the author/viewer is looking at the River, or can see the river. But, of course, you are free to project onto any poem anything you like best, ~o:37; Sawadee khrap, k. orang37, You may speak as directly and honestly to me as you like, whenever you like. I am sorry if my earlier observation offended you in any way, as your message above suggests to me it might have. There was no such intention behind it. I understand - and understood - perfectly well that, as you point out, there is nothing in your fine poem that implies that the poet is looking at the river or can see it, and I was not projecting anything of the kind, or indeed anything at all. On the contrary, I just found it odd, and still do, that a specific mention was made in the title of the post to something that seemed to me to have about it an air of significance in relation to the poem but, as I thought about it, at the same time seemed like it could have in fact no relation to the poem or the perspective of the poem. That mention caught my attention, and puzzled me briefly, and on that basis I offered my observation. Again, without any intention of offending. Best wishes, particularly with regard to your sleep, which I hope is better now than it was a few days ago. Rasseru Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiangMai2 Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 As far as I am concerned, Orang37, I disagree with your last words: "we refuse surrender". As a Frenchman, I like to keep my options open. http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/text/victories.html Always makes me smile ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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