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Iran Offers To Help Contain Us Oil Spill

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Iran offers to help contain US oil spill

The National Iranian Drilling Company (NIDC) has offered to assist the US in efforts to prevent an ecological disaster caused by the spreading oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico.

Following an explosion on a BP-operated oil rig in the Gulf of Mexico last month, at least 210,000 gallons (5,000 barrels) of crude oil are thought to be spilling into the water every day.

NIDC managing director Heidar Bahmani announced the firm's readiness to use its decades-long expertise to fight the oil slick, the company's public relations office told Press TV.

"Our oil industry experts in the field of drilling can contain the rig leakage in the Gulf of Mexico and prevent an ecological disaster in that part of the world," Bahmani said.

Overlooking the new US drive for slapping more UN sanctions on Iran over its civilian nuclear program, the company said that there is an urgent need for action to protect the nearby coasts from the advancing oil spill.

The governors of Alabama, Louisiana and Florida have reportedly called a state of emergency for fear of the oil slick's environmental and economic damages.

The disaster has also prompted the White House to ban oil drillings in new areas of the US coast until the British company explains the cause of the explosion that killed 11 employees and resulted in the oil spill.

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Halliburton

It’s hard to have a worse public image than Halliburton, the multinational engineering firm whose image took a beating during the first part of the Iraq War. But the company may well get slugged again over the Gulf accident, too. The latest accusation: The cement slurry Halliburton was pumping into the drill hole prior to the Horizon’s explosion may have in fact been at fault.

http://industry.bnet.com/energy/10004219/g...all-implicated/

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I must admit I did not realize how bad this leak was/is

I did not realize it was still spilling/leaking 210,000 gallons a day into the ocean.

Also did not realize the shear size of the slick is now over 2000 sq miles.

I see they will try to drill a relief well nearby but it will take 90 days to drill.

Also who can say how much pressure that will relieve.

Pretty amazing to consider along with its effects that are yet to be known.

Take them up on it. Watch them scramble when they unexpectedly have to put a plan together. :)

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Take them up on it. Watch them scramble when they unexpectedly have to put a plan together. :)

I dont know anything about whether they have the expertise they claim or not.....Seems odd to offer it if they did not have it...What would be the point?

But looking at the size of this mess & the implications......I would be more than happy to accept help from anywhere in the world if offered. Might be a good time to put other things aside?

This slick has already surpassed Valdez size on 5/1/10

It might be a task that could require worldwide cooperation.

They are all pointing fingers here & claiming BP will pay 14 billion at least before it is done.

I tend to wonder if the damage to the eco system & the fishing industry may end up beyond price.

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Take them up on it. Watch them scramble when they unexpectedly have to put a plan together. :)

I dont know anything about whether they have the expertise they claim or not.....Seems odd to offer it if they did not have it...What would be the point

They don't expect the US to take the offer. They're just scoring points.

Iran has no experience capping wells that are 5,000 feet below sea level. They might be able to handle a blowout above ground but not beneath it. How many submersibles does the Iranian navy have at their command? Do they have any experience with underwater oil well spillage?

To answer my own question, this is the only reference I could find about Iranian expertise in this area...and it took them six months to cap the well in the Persian/Arabian Gulf.

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"5. Nowruz Oil Field

Tons spilled: 260,000

On February 10, 1983, at the height of the Iran-Iraq War, an oil tanker collided with the Nowruz platform in the Persian Gulf. The slick caught fire when Iraqi planes attacked, and it took Iranian workers more than six months to cap the well. Eleven people died in the process."

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The average depth of the Persian Gulf is 115 feet with the deepest point being only some 330 feet below sea level. Capping a well at these depths hardly equates to capping one at 5,000 feet.

Ahmadinejad is posturing yet again. Why accept the help if all they will do is get in the way?

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They don't expect the US to take the offer. They're just scoring points.

Could be but if they in fact do have more expertise in this area ( do not know if they do )

Then hopefully the US will not biite off its nose to spite its face.

That aside.........I wish I had not posted that article as the 1st in this topic as it will surely take this topic down the wrong road.

It just happened to be a article I saw a link to while reading a forum today.

That in turn got me to look at the current state of the spill/leak. Like I said I had no idea it was flowing at this rate.

This is now a sizable problem/threat top many things.

I am a bit surprised that such drilling is allowed with no recourse or system in place for such problems.

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Iran has no experience capping wells that are 5,000 feet below sea level.

Going down the wrong road....

He said....

NIDC managing director Heidar Bahmani announced the firm's readiness to use its decades-long expertise to fight the oil slick, the company's public relations office told Press TV.

"Our oil industry experts in the field of drilling can contain the rig leakage in the Gulf of Mexico and prevent an ecological disaster in that part of the world," Bahmani said.

I took that to mean they are offering help in containment.

Of course NONE seem to have any expertise in capping a well 5000' down. Which is probably why NONE should be allowed to create a well at that depth till such technology is present.

Too bad we don't have any underground nukes left after taking down the WTC 9 years ago. They could surely close that hole, no problem.

Iran has no experience capping wells that are 5,000 feet below sea level.

Going down the wrong road....

He said....

NIDC managing director Heidar Bahmani announced the firm's readiness to use its decades-long expertise to fight the oil slick, the company's public relations office told Press TV.

"Our oil industry experts in the field of drilling can contain the rig leakage in the Gulf of Mexico and prevent an ecological disaster in that part of the world," Bahmani said.

I took that to mean they are offering help in containment.

Of course NONE seem to have any expertise in capping a well 5000' down. Which is probably why NONE should be allowed to create a well at that depth till such technology is present.

Capping the well is containment. Iran cannot do it. Only the British and the US have the kind of expertise necessary to solve the problem.

Why are we drilling wells at 5,000 feet? Because all US Administrations of both parties since Reagan have virtually stopped new drilling for oil in the US and Alaska. Why not go after the shale oil? It ain't 5,000 feet below sea level if you have a blowout.

Iran has no experience capping wells that are 5,000 feet below sea level.

Going down the wrong road....

He said....

NIDC managing director Heidar Bahmani announced the firm's readiness to use its decades-long expertise to fight the oil slick, the company's public relations office told Press TV.

"Our oil industry experts in the field of drilling can contain the rig leakage in the Gulf of Mexico and prevent an ecological disaster in that part of the world," Bahmani said.

I took that to mean they are offering help in containment.

Of course NONE seem to have any expertise in capping a well 5000' down. Which is probably why NONE should be allowed to create a well at that depth till such technology is present.

They thought they had the technology, unfortunately in this case, it didn't work correctly.

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Why not go after the shale oil? It ain't 5,000 feet below sea level if you have a blowout.

Yes I read an article about that a few years ago.

A company had done all the ground work to do so & right when they were ready to go

the price was suddenly so much lower on oil that it made it unfeasible & they lost their backing.

Very controlled.

Capping the well is containment. Iran cannot do it. Only the British and the US have the kind of expertise necessary to solve the problem.

Again from the article in the OP

expertise to fight the oil slick....contain the rig leakage in the Gulf of Mexico and prevent an ecological disaster

I mean take this down that road if you want but, I would prefer to look at the problem & not turn it into another anti anything thread. Having the worlds/any country willing to help/resources all jump on this would not be a bad thing in my mind :)

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They thought they had the technology, unfortunately in this case, it didn't work correctly.

What was that technology? Have a link?

I would be interested to look at it.

I have seen some interesting ideas today on TV here that they are proposing.

But these things have never been tested or used before so they are not sure if it will help or hinder.

Looking at it from a layman's view... I can only wonder & marvel at the magnitude & what it would take to recover that oil from the water.

They thought they had the technology, unfortunately in this case, it didn't work correctly.

What was that technology? Have a link?

I would be interested to look at it.

I have seen some interesting ideas today on TV here that they are proposing.

But these things have never been tested or used before so they are not sure if it will help or hinder.

Looking at it from a layman's view... I can only wonder & marvel at the magnitude & what it would take to recover that oil from the water.

I was talking about the leak, if the blowout preventer had worked properly, we wouldn't have had such a massive leak, then slick. Correct? Also, as I understood it, their procedure for injection of the "cement", my friends referred to it as "Mud" I believe, may have been a factor.

It would be good if some of the experienced offshore guys would give their opinion.

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I was talking about the leak, if the blowout preventer had worked properly, we wouldn't have had such a massive leak, then slick. Correct? Also, as I understood it, their procedure for injection of the "cement", my friends referred to it as "Mud" I believe, may have been a factor.

Yeah they call it slurry...But then so do we in construction....Just a fine sandy cement used for patching, gap filling etc..

The 2nd post in this thread had a link about that slurry may have been a cause...

Actually that other thread I started is a good read.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Mother-Gushe...ea-t361947.html

They also talk about the cement & how it would have been better poured a week or so beforehand. Makes sense.

I mean take this down that road if you want but, I would prefer to look at the problem & not turn it into another anti anything thread. Having the worlds/any country willing to help/resources all jump on this would not be a bad thing in my mind :)

If Iran wants to donate money to help with the cleanup, then take it to the bank. Take all the money they are willing to donate.

Oh yes...they are offering their expertise, not money. I think their expertise has already been covered here. They have capped one underwater spill and that was at less than 100 meters depth. This leakage is at over 15 times the depth they have ever even drilled in.

I'm not bashing Iran at all. I lived there five years and thoroughly enjoyed most of my time there. The last part of 1978 and early 1979 wasn't a lot of fun but we still managed to get our weekend foursomes together for a round.

I say again, Ahmadinejad was posturing, knowing full well there was nothing he could do to help.

Post #5 depicts the directional procedure that will probably be required . That is if, they cannot find a way to clear the rams of the pipe and then close the well in. Both approaches will probably go on simultaneously,

From the info that is being slowly released, it appears Halliburton had cemented the production casing in place and the rig was laying down the drill pipe used to drill the well. Thus the high number of personal near the rig floor when it blew. With the oil and gas coming back via the bottom of the casing and the very recent (cement job), that is a real possible source of the problem. When you look at possible causes, Halliburton will be coming under close questioning. Once the well has been killed and put back into a normal state, surveys can/will be run to determine if this was the underlying factor. If I were holding Hallibuton stock, it may be a good time to sell. That is just an opinion based on what I surmise happened during their part of the cementing work.

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With the oil and gas coming back via the bottom of the casing and the very recent (cement job), that is a real possible source of the problem. When you look at possible causes, Halliburton will be coming under close questioning. Once the well has been killed and put back into a normal state, surveys can/will be run to determine if this was the underlying factor. If I were holding Hallibuton stock, it may be a good time to sell. That is just an opinion based on what I surmise happened during their part of the cementing work.

That is what I also got from reading various articles. Seems a shoddy cement job with trapped air possibly caused the failure.

Yes also agree their stock may tumble. I never really realized how big they are & how many things they have their fingers in.

Also interesting the DOD was called in right away & there was some talk of them helping/taking over? Yet they have no expertise as compared to the oil companies.

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I think their expertise has already been covered here.

What ever you want Chuck :)

The expertise covered here was your post? On a unrelated subject. Forget it...The original topic/article clearly stated they wanted to help contain the SLICK. It never claimed they wanted to STOP/CAP the leak/well

Thanks for your opinion I am 100% sure I understand it. Yes Iran does not have the expertise to cap a well at 5000' depth.

Not surprising as nobody else does either.

Which is why NONE have offered to CAP any wells.

The Iranians offer to help confine the spill, clean up etc is nice but doubt if there is room for them. Now if the had offered to put out the fire and cap the escaping hydrocarbon, great. The Iranian solution for the latter case as imagined by a gathering of Olies.

We have sand, lots of sand , load many, many barges with sand

Make daisy chain of barges and tow to site of blowout. Many, many personal will have accommodations on sand

Upon arrival, issue shovels to personal and push sand barges toward blowout

Final instructions, shovel sand faster.

I think their expertise has already been covered here.

What ever you want Chuck :)

The expertise covered here was your post? On a unrelated subject. Forget it...The original topic/article clearly stated they wanted to help contain the SLICK. It never claimed they wanted to STOP/CAP the leak/well

Thanks for your opinion I am 100% sure I understand it. Yes Iran does not have the expertise to cap a well at 5000' depth.

Not surprising as nobody else does either.

Which is why NONE have offered to CAP any wells.

Just thought you might like to see something found on the link site you posted. :D

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ABOUT US

Press TV takes revolutionary steps as the first Iranian international news network, broadcasting in English on a round-the-clock basis.

Our global Tehran-based headquarters is staffed with outstanding Iranian and foreign media professionals.

Press TV is extensively networked with bureaus located in the world's most strategic cities.

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Here's the link:

http://www.presstv.com/aboutus.aspx

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Just thought you might like to see something found on the link site you posted. :)

Yes the about section. And of course that in your mind makes it all irrelevant.

To be valid news It has to be a right wing US news based site like Faux News right? :D

Listen Chucky I have tried since post #8 to steer this away from yet another political opinion & on to the main subject of

the Gulf Spill.

I even went so far as to start a new thread on it. Your like a bull in a China shop when it comes to this stuff.

You like to call conspiracy theorist on many yet your the 1st to run in with this type of rhetoric. Gasp..! :D

A Site with Iranian and foreign media professionals.

I have said it before & here it is one last time from post #8 for you to absorb..........

I wish I had not posted that article as the 1st in this topic as it will surely take this topic down the wrong road.

It just happened to be a article I saw a link to while reading a forum today.

That aside.....hopefully for the last time.....I really hope this event in the gulf will not be a marker & looked back on as the first step in a chain of further damaging events.

Hurricane season is about to start here in the US & this slick & much more yet to come out of that leak has devastating potential.

Just thought you might like to see something found on the link site you posted. :)

Yes the about section. And of course that in your mind makes it all irrelevant.

To be valid news It has to be a right wing US news based site like Faux News right? :D

Listen Chucky I have tried since post #8 to steer this away from yet another political opinion & on to the main subject of

the Gulf Spill.

I even went so far as to start a new thread on it. Your like a bull in a China shop when it comes to this stuff.

You like to call conspiracy theorist on many yet your the 1st to run in with this type of rhetoric. Gasp..! :D

A Site with Iranian and foreign media professionals.

I have said it before & here it is one last time from post #8 for you to absorb..........

I wish I had not posted that article as the 1st in this topic as it will surely take this topic down the wrong road.

It just happened to be a article I saw a link to while reading a forum today.

That aside.....hopefully for the last time.....I really hope this event in the gulf will not be a marker & looked back on as the first step in a chain of further damaging events.

Hurricane season is about to start here in the US & this slick & much more yet to come out of that leak has devastating potential.

Flying:

You might want to look at the title YOU gave this thread..."Iran Offers To Help Contain Us Oil Spill".

Since you seem to be supporting Iran's involvement in containing the "slick", it becomes incumbent on those that might disagree with your stance to question it.

I would have questioned it if you had said Bangladesh, Greece, Switzerland or Afghanistan had offered help. The fact you said it was Iran became pertinent when you put it in the lead. The only consideration I had at the time was they couldn't do the job, therefore all of Ahmadinejad's gracious offers were nothing but political posturing. I would have said the same thing if any of the four countries listed above had offered their help. Your thread isn't about the spill, it is about Iran's involvement in the spill.

I did not take the thread off topic. If anybody did, it was you.

Your further defense of the site you used was somewhat inane. You say it is..."A Site with Iranian and foreign media professionals."

You might have added..."yet the content is controlled by the Government of Iran."

I seldom post any link from Fox News as I know the liberals on this board would never believe it. I have also never posted a link from a GOI controlled web site.

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Flying:

You might want to look at the title YOU gave this thread..."Iran Offers To Help Contain Us Oil Spill".

Ok Chuck I am going to stop reading right there & after this stop responding to your silliness....

I gave no title to the thread....Those pesky terrorist you see under your bed did...

I just linked it & did not flavor it....

It was the title of the article not my thread....

Iran offers to help contain US oil spill

Mon, 03 May 2010 13:29:49 GMT

See for yourself...... http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=1253...ctionid=3510203

You did read the original??? I tend to doubt it as you have posted irrelevant crap ever since your 1st post on this thread about how *They* (The National Iranian Drilling Company (NIDC) cant cap it...although the article never mentioned *they* (The National Iranian Drilling Company (NIDC) ever claimed that ... Only you injected that along with more blah blah blah about how they cant cap a well 5k down......etc etc etc

The name Ahmadinejad only mentioned by you as it was never in the article.....But then what fun would it be for you without it eh?

Then you went on & on with that for 2 or 3 posts & then the old....Oh-Oh look it is a terrorist web site ...cant trust Iranian and foreign media professionals. blah blah blah :) & basically high jacked the thread once again...So keep it...enjoy it :D

Dont let the oil spill take up any space in your mind & keep up the good work keeping the world safe from Terror... Your Junior G-man decoder ring is in the mail :D

Flying:

You might want to look at the title YOU gave this thread..."Iran Offers To Help Contain Us Oil Spill".

Ok Chuck I am going to stop reading right there & after this stop responding to your silliness....

I gave no title to the thread....Those pesky terrorist you see under your bed did...

I just linked it & did not flavor it....

It was the title of the article not my thread....

Iran offers to help contain US oil spill

Mon, 03 May 2010 13:29:49 GMT

See for yourself...... http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=1253...ctionid=3510203

You did read the original??? I tend to doubt it as you have posted irrelevant crap ever since your 1st post on this thread about how *They* (The National Iranian Drilling Company (NIDC) cant cap it...although the article never mentioned *they* (The National Iranian Drilling Company (NIDC) ever claimed that ... Only you injected that along with more blah blah blah about how they cant cap a well 5k down......etc etc etc

The name Ahmadinejad only mentioned by you as it was never in the article.....But then what fun would it be for you without it eh?

Then you went on & on with that for 2 or 3 posts & then the old....Oh-Oh look it is a terrorist web site ...cant trust Iranian and foreign media professionals. blah blah blah :) & basically high jacked the thread once again...So keep it...enjoy it :D

Dont let the oil spill take up any space in your mind & keep up the good work keeping the world safe from Terror... Your Junior G-man decoder ring is in the mail :D

Since you claim you never gave a title to the thread, how did it ever get posted? I have never been able to start a thread without providing a title for it. Forum rules and all that. Hmmmm. Special rules for special folks? :D

You have already admitted your mistake by starting another thread about the same subject so why not take the liberal way out and ask the mods to close this one? :D

I anxiously await my Junior G-Man Decoder ring. :D

The name Ahmadinejad only mentioned by you as it was never in the article... But then what fun would it be for you without it eh?

keywords to get the resident christian 700Club members defenders of the realm rednecks :) going are (to list a few not according to priorities):

-Islam

-Mullahs

-Muslims

-Burqas

-Ayrabs

-Palestinians

-Desert

-Camels

-Middle East

-Hamas

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keywords to get the resident christian 700Club members defenders of the realm rednecks :) going are

Well they may very well be 700 clubbers but, they cannot be defenders of the realm due to their desertion of the realm long ago....

Which is why they now do the paper tiger dance so often. You know glory days & all that :D

keywords to get the resident christian 700Club members defenders of the realm rednecks :) going are

Well they may very well be 700 clubbers but, they cannot be defenders of the realm due to their desertion of the realm long ago... Which is why they now do the paper tiger dance so often. You know glory days & all that :D

we will not tell them that the glory days are a thing of the past. let them be happy by telling them:

Pat Robertson will bless them. the american eagle will come down hard on the chinese yuan if Taiwan is attacked. the mullahs will be bombed back to stone age and the triangled area Tehran, Ghoum, Bandar Abbas will be a huge parking lot. citizens of the Greatest Nation on Earth™ will soon fill up their cars with free gasoline from Iraq and conquered Venezuela. all caves in which al-Qaeda and any remaining Taleban are hiding are already full of smoke. senate and congress will move to the capital Yerushalayim of the 51st state and pax americana will rule and pacify the world.

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