Thai Court Approves Arrest Warrant Against Thaksin On Terrorism Charge

[NanaFoods]

not so easy to catch the tweety when he has his grumpy granny

Wow.

This Robert Amsterdam fellow is either extremely stupid, or an obscene liar. My guess is the latter.

"no knowledge of Thaksin funding the Red Shirts".

Yeah, nice way to build credibility, slimeball.

I must say, the Al-Jazeera reporter did a decent job calling him out on his BS.

When cornered, he changed the subject to something irrelevant.

Edited May 20, 2010 by ChefHeat

[BKK-Bangkapi]

Robert Amsterdam must also be include on the terrorist list for his involvement with Thaksin and his blatatnt terrorism.

Hey Bobby A. your client is toast.

Call off your PM specialists, no matter how much lies they spout on the net,

the evidence is gonna way out pace your wildest efforts.

Wow, you guys are getting more and more ridiculous. You don't see the lawyers of Pinochet, Saddam Hussein or Milosevic put on terrorist lists either, and those people did much worse. Just shows that a lot of people talking here don't know a whole lot about anything. Sorry, that's the truth. Lawyers represent the client in legal matters, they don't necessarily support the actions of the client.

Since Mr. Amsterdam only represents his client and is reportedly in Thailand to voice in person his client's view on the situation, I think it would be a good idea for displeased Bangkok residents (Thai and expats alike) to pay him a visit and to strongly object in person to his disputable statements, with a demand in abstentia to pass the message. People preferring emails: #removed per forum rules#

Edited May 20, 2010 by cdnvic
removed email

[souvenirdeparis]

MCOT: French authorities are seeking to prevent Thaksin from speaking out in Paris on political crisis in Thailand: newspaper Le Figaro

back to your box in Montenegro!

I've just read le Figaro. There's nothing about that. Not even in the breaking news.

it was in the breaking news and I posted it here and messed my com & lost it never mind.

Because he immediately left for London so I've read ( where i read that I forgot)

His speech in Paris is due on the 31st.

I guess the real reason was a warning to leave because of the possible terrorism conviction; Sarko would be so utterly clueless as to how to handle this.

[BKK-Bangkapi]

...meanwhile Turkish air-force is bombing Kurds rebels and no one on CNN, at EU parliament, from HRW or whatever Amnesty NGO is advising restraint (even though last I checked neither Istambul nor Ankara were burning). I hope everything will be settled properly and we won't have to read in 20 years from now news like "For the 3rd consecutive day Thai air-force successfully bombed several rebel bases in the People's Republic of Lanna"...

[BKK-Bangkapi]

...Which makes me think that NGO read in thai with the proper pronunciation describes quite well some of these organizations)

Seriously, I think that whatever action to keep Thailand united needs full support now.

[KMUTT]

France trying to gag Thaksin

PARIS - FRENCH authorities are seeking to prevent former Thai premier Thaksin Shinawatra from speaking out in Paris on the political crisis in his homeland, the newspaper Le Figaro reported on Thursday.

For More See: http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/S...ory_529109.html

which contains:

Organisers confirmed that the event organised by the little-known Centre of Political and Foreign Affairs was still expected to go ahead, but added that the fugitive former leader had temporarily left Paris for London.

Has the UK lifted its visa revocation for him to enter there?

[timekeeper]

Thaksin calling for political dialogue

By The Nation

Ex-premier Thaksin Shinawatra has called for "a new political dialogue that is fair and equal before the law for all Thai citizens" in order to move passed the anger and outrage.

Thaksin issued his statement in a press release of the law firm Amsterdam and Peroff distributed by PRNewswire in Hong Kong on Thursday.

"Today Thailand is mourning. I join all Thai patriots in their immediate call for calm, order and non-violence, and fully condemn the actions of those who acted with opportunism and impunity to cause reckless damage to Bangkok, which is completely alien to the cause of the protest movement," he said in the statement.

He blamed "state violence and human rights abuses" for the loss of life.

He was critical of the government for using the term "terrorism" against the red-shirt leaders. He also voiced concern for political persecution.

He denied his involvement with "any illegal or violent activities in the Kingdom of Thailand".

"I fully reject the allegations� which underscore the fact that this heroic and inspiring grassroots movement is autonomous and independent from myself," he said, calling for:

"All sides to take a step back and consider the possibility of the political solutions and not to fall victim to the provocations from those who benefit from Thailand falling into lawlessness."

if he is not involved, why does he see himself as qualified to comment?

methinks though protesteth too mut.......

Edited May 21, 2010 by timekeeper

[Thaihog]

MODS... when are you going to change the header to this topic as it's not factually correct.....

[KMUTT]

Robert Amsterdam must also be include on the terrorist list for his involvement with Thaksin and his blatant terrorism.

Hey Bobby A. your client is toast.

Call off your PM specialists, no matter how much lies they spout on the net,

the evidence is gonna way out pace your wildest efforts.

Wow, you guys are getting more and more ridiculous. You don't see the lawyers of Pinochet, Saddam Hussein or Milosevic put on terrorist lists either, and those people did much worse. Just shows that a lot of people talking here don't know a whole lot about anything. Sorry, that's the truth. Lawyers represent the client in legal matters, they don't necessarily support the actions of the client.

Since Mr. Amsterdam only represents his client and is reportedly in Thailand to voice in person his client's view on the situation, I think it would be a good idea for displeased Bangkok residents (Thai and expats alike) to pay him a visit and to strongly object in person to his disputable statements, with a demand in abstentia to pass the message.

Too late... he's already left Thailand in a "harrowing escape"

Lawyer Recounts Harrowing Escape From Bangkok

May 20, 2010

Robert Amsterdam is no stranger to dangerous assignments, so the client he's recently gone to work for puts Amsterdam back in familiar territory.

The Bronx-born international defense lawyer, best known for representing jailed Russian businessman Mikhail Khodorkovsky, was retained earlier this month by former Thai Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra via supporters of the telecom billionaire.

The assignment put Amsterdam in the middle of Bangkok for three days just as Thai troops were stepping up their crackdown on Thaksin's Red Shirt supporters, creating some anxious moments for him.

"I just got out of Bangkok where I was in the Red Shirt compound," Amsterdam says by phone from Hong Kong.

"I did not know if I would get out. The whole fuc_king thing is just a terrible tragedy."

Amsterdam says Thaksin is being unfairly vilified.

"These people are risking their lives and the government is trying to portray Thaksin as some kind of terrorist that they should go arrest, because he's the most popular man in Thailand," he says.

"Thaksin was popularly elected on a number of occasions, unlike some of the individuals currently in power."

Thaksin was deposed in a bloodless military coup in September 2006. The four years that followed have seen political paralysis seize Thailand with protests beginning to gain new momentum last month.

Thaksin's foes accuse him of being the most corrupt politician in Thailand, and efforts to go after his assets originally led him to retain Baker Botts to fight the seizures.

The firm is no longer representing Thaksin, who remains in exile. (Michael Goldberg, chair of the firm's international arbitration and dispute resolution practice, handled the assignment for Baker Botts but didn't immediately respond to a request for comment.)

Meanwhile, the civil unrest currently roiling central Bangkok led current Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva to declare a government holiday between May 17 and May 21. That in turn forced the temporary closures of the offices of several international law firms.

Out-of-office e-mail responses from several partners at firms with offices in Bangkok indicated that Baker & McKenzie, Herbert Smith, Linklaters, and Mayer Brown have all closed their doors until the situation calms down. None of the partners contacted immediately responded to the messages.

As for Amsterdam, he's trying to muster international support for the Red Shirt cause after the group's leaders turned themselves in to avoid more casualties.

Amsterdam says he was with the leaders in their compound drafting a platform that contains pledges to avoid violence and to negotiate unconditionally. (Amsterdam's personal blog chronicles some of his other experiences on the ground in Bangkok, as does this op-ed he wrote about the Red Shirts for The Australian.)

Amsterdam says he flew to Hong Kong early Wednesday (EST) with several of Thaksin's Thai lawyers because "we could no longer function in Bangkok."

"The [Thai] government is going to use these protests as a pretext to try to go after my client, because they are just deathly afraid of him," Amsterdam says. "Now we are going to investigate and document the absolutely extra-legal behavior of the Thai government and military."

Amsterdam says the Obama administration has been "incredibly quiet" about what is unfolding in Thailand.

"The writing is on the wall that this [Thai] government is not long for this earth," Amsterdam adds. "Abhisit has to resign and they have to call for elections."

http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1202458483076

[whybother]

Amsterdam says he flew to Hong Kong early Wednesday (EST) with several of Thaksin's Thai lawyers because "we could no longer function in Bangkok."

That's because his client's minions were burning the place down.

[KMUTT]

The Bronx-born international defense lawyer, best known for representing jailed Russian businessman Mikhail Khodorkovsky, was retained earlier this month by former Thai Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra via supporters of the telecom billionaire.

The poverty-stricken rice farmers of Issan paid for the retainer of this overpriced windbag so he can defend a billionaire fugitive???

[Tony Clifton]

he was in france last week end buying a louis vuitton bag for his daughter...

call sarkozy...

I am still not convinced he will be convicted or even arrested. They seem to be throwing out arrest warrants here and there.

Now Arisman has been arrested and transferred to Border Control Police (or something like that). We have seen just how inactive the police have been recently. Why wasn't he transferred to the military camp at Hua Hin together with the other leaders? I am sure he'll e out on bail tomorrow and out of the country within hours.

Edit Just seen that it's Naresuan border patrol police camp in Phetchburi

Had he kept his mouth shut and left Thailand alone he probably would have spent the rest of his life quietly abroad after fleeing and jumping bail following the CHina Olympics.

True to himself, Thaksin never gets enough power and control so he went nuts on terrorism and chaos at home while sitting in other countries, tst tst tst.

You will see the biggest trials ever in Thailand.

The PPP dissolution and 7 hour long verdict will be a joke compared to these new trials.

Unfortunately, the Thaksin related bombs will never stop, they haven`t since 2003. He still has plenty of his red blind money hungry zombies infecting the country.

Edited May 21, 2010 by Tony Clifton

[atyclb]

Sure hope the curfew is lifted soon so some of the tv posters can shift their literary and scholarly masterpieces to a more apt forum, that of beer and go go bars, and AA.

[timekeeper]

Robert Amsterdam must also be include on the terrorist list for his involvement with Thaksin and his blatant terrorism.

Hey Bobby A. your client is toast.

Call off your PM specialists, no matter how much lies they spout on the net,

the evidence is gonna way out pace your wildest efforts.

Wow, you guys are getting more and more ridiculous. You don't see the lawyers of Pinochet, Saddam Hussein or Milosevic put on terrorist lists either, and those people did much worse. Just shows that a lot of people talking here don't know a whole lot about anything. Sorry, that's the truth. Lawyers represent the client in legal matters, they don't necessarily support the actions of the client.

Since Mr. Amsterdam only represents his client and is reportedly in Thailand to voice in person his client's view on the situation, I think it would be a good idea for displeased Bangkok residents (Thai and expats alike) to pay him a visit and to strongly object in person to his disputable statements, with a demand in abstentia to pass the message.

Too late... he's already left Thailand in a "harrowing escape"

Lawyer Recounts Harrowing Escape From Bangkok

May 20, 2010

Robert Amsterdam is no stranger to dangerous assignments, so the client he's recently gone to work for puts Amsterdam back in familiar territory.

The Bronx-born international defense lawyer, best known for representing jailed Russian businessman Mikhail Khodorkovsky, was retained earlier this month by former Thai Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra via supporters of the telecom billionaire.

The assignment put Amsterdam in the middle of Bangkok for three days just as Thai troops were stepping up their crackdown on Thaksin's Red Shirt supporters, creating some anxious moments for him.

"I just got out of Bangkok where I was in the Red Shirt compound," Amsterdam says by phone from Hong Kong.

"I did not know if I would get out. The whole fuc_king thing is just a terrible tragedy."

Amsterdam says Thaksin is being unfairly vilified.

"These people are risking their lives and the government is trying to portray Thaksin as some kind of terrorist that they should go arrest, because he's the most popular man in Thailand," he says.

"Thaksin was popularly elected on a number of occasions, unlike some of the individuals currently in power."

Thaksin was deposed in a bloodless military coup in September 2006. The four years that followed have seen political paralysis seize Thailand with protests beginning to gain new momentum last month.

Thaksin's foes accuse him of being the most corrupt politician in Thailand, and efforts to go after his assets originally led him to retain Baker Botts to fight the seizures.

The firm is no longer representing Thaksin, who remains in exile. (Michael Goldberg, chair of the firm's international arbitration and dispute resolution practice, handled the assignment for Baker Botts but didn't immediately respond to a request for comment.)

Meanwhile, the civil unrest currently roiling central Bangkok led current Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva to declare a government holiday between May 17 and May 21. That in turn forced the temporary closures of the offices of several international law firms.

Out-of-office e-mail responses from several partners at firms with offices in Bangkok indicated that Baker & McKenzie, Herbert Smith, Linklaters, and Mayer Brown have all closed their doors until the situation calms down. None of the partners contacted immediately responded to the messages.

As for Amsterdam, he's trying to muster international support for the Red Shirt cause after the group's leaders turned themselves in to avoid more casualties.

Amsterdam says he was with the leaders in their compound drafting a platform that contains pledges to avoid violence and to negotiate unconditionally. (Amsterdam's personal blog chronicles some of his other experiences on the ground in Bangkok, as does this op-ed he wrote about the Red Shirts for The Australian.)

Amsterdam says he flew to Hong Kong early Wednesday (EST) with several of Thaksin's Thai lawyers because "we could no longer function in Bangkok."

"The [Thai] government is going to use these protests as a pretext to try to go after my client, because they are just deathly afraid of him," Amsterdam says. "Now we are going to investigate and document the absolutely extra-legal behavior of the Thai government and military."

Amsterdam says the Obama administration has been "incredibly quiet" about what is unfolding in Thailand.

"The writing is on the wall that this [Thai] government is not long for this earth," Amsterdam adds. "Abhisit has to resign and they have to call for elections."

http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1202458483076

the Lawyer and the Liar, good bedfellows..........

[animatic]

Here's one for the Pussy.

Shoppers attacked by a Red mob as they try to leave........ Fill in the dots.

Ahh, such brave & peaceful Red Shirts.

There were shoppers at Central World yesterday? You're joking, right?

The army declared the area a "Live Firing Zone". What were they doing "shopping"?

Since Central World was closed for more than a month due to the protests, they were most likely looters. Surely not shoppers.

Ok, I have deleted the ref to CWP.

Now what?

You may have deleted the reference to "Central World Plaza", but the video title on the YouTube website still says that "2 shoppers were attacked at Central World Plaza". I'm sorry, but something is clearly wrong. If they were attacked at Central World Plaza, which is what it seems like from the video. What were they doing there? The area was a "Live Firing Zone". If they came out of Central World Plaza, which is what it seems from the video, I'm sorry to say they were LOOTERS, not shoppers, and were most likely beaten up for that reason. I don't support beating up people, don't get me wrong, but these guys apparently walked out of Central World Plaza, according to the guy that shot the video. And Central World Plaza wasn't open for shopping for over a month. So what were they doing there? Shopping? While the stores were closed? I'd call that looting, sorry.

This was weeks ago. Someone on the forum knows the guy

who decked the red shirt who came to search his girlfriends purse.

He thought he was attacking his woman and dropped the guy.

Then all his buddies came in.... a mess.

This was a perfect example of redshirts thinking they are a law unto themselves,

and why letting them win was never on the table.

[globo]

Money can be used for city infrastucture. Improved storm sewers. Wastewater treatment plants along the Klong San Sap. New energy efficient cleaner public Buses. New concept for electric Tuk Tuks is a situation where yu already have a workforce inplace. Clear sidewalks for Pedestrian movement. More parks and thorough fares for people to move about the city on foot or by bicycle. Roof drains from businesses to stretch out to curb and gutter rather than on top of sidewalks and peoples heads.

[GungaDin]

animatic: This was weeks ago. Someone on the forum knows the guy

who decked the red shirt who came to search his girlfriends purse.

He thought he was attacking his woman and dropped the guy.

Then all his buddies came in.... a mess.

This was a perfect example of redshirts thinking they are a law unto themselves,

and why letting them win was never on the table.

Thank you.

[siampolee]

Lawyer representing key Red leader Suporn Atthawong tells police client to surrender after govt lift emergency decree enforcement

They still are of the mindset that everything has got to be their way alone.

Has this thug actually noticed it is over or is he buying time to ''flee from the scene'' using the money he forgot to pay to the protesters ?

[Artisi]

I thought this thread was entitled -

" Thai Court Approves Arrest Warrant Against Thaksin On Terrorism Charge "

So why all the cr_ap about everything other than Thaksin and the Arrest Warrant?

[Samuian]

I thought this thread was entitled -

" Thai Court Approves Arrest Warrant Against Thaksin On Terrorism Charge "

So why all the cr_ap about everything other than Thaksin and the Arrest Warrant?

I wonder if he will be showing for the press conference in Paris - which is supposedly scheduled...

or will instead Robert Amsterdam read his clients plea of innocence?

[animatic]

I think we can calmly wait till next week and let more pieces fall together.

A little more time and paper trail checking and he can be well and truly trussed up for the world to see.

The main links in the chain are now in official hands. But better an airtight case than a rushed one.

Edited May 21, 2010 by animatic

[Democrat]

Too late... he's already left Thailand in a "harrowing escape"

Lawyer Recounts Harrowing Escape From Bangkok

May 20, 2010

Robert Amsterdam is no stranger to dangerous assignments, so the client he's recently gone to work for puts Amsterdam back in familiar territory.

The Bronx-born international defense lawyer, best known for representing jailed Russian businessman Mikhail Khodorkovsky, was retained earlier this month by former Thai Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra via supporters of the telecom billionaire.

The assignment put Amsterdam in the middle of Bangkok for three days just as Thai troops were stepping up their crackdown on Thaksin's Red Shirt supporters, creating some anxious moments for him.

"I just got out of Bangkok where I was in the Red Shirt compound," Amsterdam says by phone from Hong Kong.

"I did not know if I would get out. The whole fuc_king thing is just a terrible tragedy."

Amsterdam says Thaksin is being unfairly vilified.

"These people are risking their lives and the government is trying to portray Thaksin as some kind of terrorist that they should go arrest, because he's the most popular man in Thailand," he says.

"Thaksin was popularly elected on a number of occasions, unlike some of the individuals currently in power."

Thaksin was deposed in a bloodless military coup in September 2006. The four years that followed have seen political paralysis seize Thailand with protests beginning to gain new momentum last month.

Thaksin's foes accuse him of being the most corrupt politician in Thailand, and efforts to go after his assets originally led him to retain Baker Botts to fight the seizures.

The firm is no longer representing Thaksin, who remains in exile. (Michael Goldberg, chair of the firm's international arbitration and dispute resolution practice, handled the assignment for Baker Botts but didn't immediately respond to a request for comment.)

Meanwhile, the civil unrest currently roiling central Bangkok led current Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva to declare a government holiday between May 17 and May 21. That in turn forced the temporary closures of the offices of several international law firms.

Out-of-office e-mail responses from several partners at firms with offices in Bangkok indicated that Baker & McKenzie, Herbert Smith, Linklaters, and Mayer Brown have all closed their doors until the situation calms down. None of the partners contacted immediately responded to the messages.

As for Amsterdam, he's trying to muster international support for the Red Shirt cause after the group's leaders turned themselves in to avoid more casualties.

Amsterdam says he was with the leaders in their compound drafting a platform that contains pledges to avoid violence and to negotiate unconditionally. (Amsterdam's personal blog chronicles some of his other experiences on the ground in Bangkok, as does this op-ed he wrote about the Red Shirts for The Australian.)

Amsterdam says he flew to Hong Kong early Wednesday (EST) with several of Thaksin's Thai lawyers because "we could no longer function in Bangkok."

"The [Thai] government is going to use these protests as a pretext to try to go after my client, because they are just deathly afraid of him," Amsterdam says. "Now we are going to investigate and document the absolutely extra-legal behavior of the Thai government and military."

Amsterdam says the Obama administration has been "incredibly quiet" about what is unfolding in Thailand.

"The writing is on the wall that this [Thai] government is not long for this earth," Amsterdam adds. "Abhisit has to resign and they have to call for elections."

http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1202458483076

the Lawyer and the Liar, good bedfellows..........

You took my line The lawyer, the liar T, the liar A, the Liar the other T, the liar the other A, and the judges, would make very good bedfellows....

If they thought they could nail him they would have an arrest warrant a long time ago. So it was approved and then rescinded. They are being very careful the world is watching. They will need concrete proof. Statements from people will mean nothing as people can be bribed.

[siampolee]

As for Amsterdam, he's trying to muster international support for the Red Shirt cause after the group's leaders turned themselves in to avoid more casualties.

Amsterdam says he was with the leaders in their compound drafting a platform that contains pledges to avoid violence and to negotiate unconditionally. (Amsterdam's personal blog chronicles some of his other experiences on the ground in Bangkok, as does this op-ed he wrote about the Red Shirts for The Australian.)

Another money driven farang terrorist .

The assignment put Amsterdam in the middle of Bangkok for three days just as Thai troops were stepping up their crackdown on Thaksin's Red Shirt supporters, creating some anxious moments for him.

Wow, a three day expert wonderful.

"The writing is on the wall that this [Thai] government is not long for this earth," Amsterdam adds. "Abhisit has to resign and they have to call for elections."

Looks and sounds like Thaksin the puppet master has his hands up Amsterdams anus and is manipulating him.

"Thaksin was popularly elected on a number of occasions, unlike some of the individuals currently in power."

Those election outcomes were based on large purple pieces of paper and large grey coloured pieces of paper and that rather well known Abba song

''Money Money Money It's The rich Mans Tool''

Edited May 21, 2010 by siampolee

[animatic]

You can see the eye balls roll with every word he speaks.

Financial colonscopy....

Edited May 21, 2010 by animatic

[wayfarer108]

How very sad that most of the people participating in this thread actually believe all the propaganda. This is not about Thaksin. Yes, he is a figurehead because at the beginning of this fight he was the only one who stood forward and had money to support a movement. But it has become much bigger than Thaksin - but the government (and this is where you people are so stupid) is still using him because they want to tarnish him. The government knows how popular he is in the north and Isaan and want to diminish his power.

This is about democracy and equal rights. Not Thaksin. You stupid stupid people.

I believe you are the gullible one if you believe this is about democracy and equal rights.

[kxfield]

Bin Laden has just applied for a Montenegro passport, as the British authorities (or apparently any other E.U. authority)cannot arrest anyone, even terrorists who have such a passport. Leastways that is the crap the U.K. is giving out after taking no action against Thaksin who has recently arrived in the U.K. )

[jitenshaman]

Amsterdam says he was with the leaders in their compound drafting a platform that contains pledges to avoid violence and to negotiate unconditionally. (Amsterdam's personal blog chronicles some of his other experiences on the ground in Bangkok, as does this op-ed he wrote about the Red Shirts for The Australian.)

Somehow it seems that the nonviolence pledge had a burn everything to the ground clause substituted. But I am sure Mr. Amsterdam knows nothing about that, maybe there was just an error made in translation.

[clown]

It looks like we have all been duped by Thai politics. The red shirt leaders are not in jail. They're on holiday. These photos were taken yesterday:

[Thai at Heart]

It looks like we have all been duped by Thai politics. The red shirt leaders are not in jail. They're on holiday. These photos were taken yesterday:

Oh my lord. If those dates are correct, I wonder quite how much egg someone is going to have on his face explaining that one away.

Thai law enforcement at it's finest. Wait, they will probably request they want to visit the London Olympics early, but they promise to come back once the whole thing has finished.

Edited May 21, 2010 by Thai at Heart

[clown]

Thai Politics at its finest. My guess is that they are holding something in their hands against PM Abhisit.

Meet the new puppetmasters.