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How Did Wikileaks Miss This?

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All the hype over Wikileaks and the biggest scandal story to come out in

months - maybe years - was released by the US Military themsleves - as usual.

-------------Confession Video: US Soldier Describes Thrill Kill of Innocent Afghans

Corporal, 22, Tells How His 'Crazy' Sergeant Allegedly Murdered For Kicks,

Collected Body Parts

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/us-soldier-describes-thrill-kill-innocent-civilians-afghanistan/story?id=11732681

How did Wilkileaks miss it?

Why should they pick up on anything that is not suppressed? Your questions and post seems to imply that you think Wikileaks is all about making points against the US military. It's not. Wikileaks is all about opening suppressed information for public scrutiny.

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My point is Wikileaks is all hype. Just trying to secure funding from George Soros most likely.

This atrocity is months old and it is DISGUSTING. Some psycho becomes a seargant and does stuff like this. One thing I thought strange though, they talk about being on drugs all the time. They were smoking hashish. It must have been laced with something if they wanted to do this kill and take body part souvenirs.

if its all hype why did they (govt from various countries)shut it down/ or try to?

but i do agree that the atrocity mentioned in the op is disgusting

why should people/govt/corporations get away from their misdeeds?

Harcourt is right...wiki is not meant to pick up every sensational event. There are many that already exist to do that...Which is in fact how you found the info more or less. But instead wiki is for suppressed info. Which is not the same as what your calling hype.

Even Time magazine said the following which seems like common sense when looking at any wiki type information..

Savvy web users, of course, know that public wikis are never trusted for their authenticity for the simple reason that anyone can post or edit them. Instead they're viewed as a first step in the research process. And if Wikileaks is used with a healthy dose of skepticism, it could become as important a journalistic tool as the Freedom of Information Act.

As for the atrocity along with others being disgusting...yes agreed

But also many times foot soldiers are not what you would call the cream of the crop of humanity. I remember not long ago many judges would give undesirable young men the choice of jail or military service in the hopes it would straighten them out.

As for drugs possibly being a cause...who knows but it did remind me of an article I read a year ago...It detailed how soldiers in Iraq & Afghanistan are now treated for PTSD while still in the field. Getting a jump on it so to speak...Which sounds pretty odd when you consider the implications of unstable folks carrying weapons.

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Harcourt is right...wiki is not meant to pick up every sensational event.

Yet there was a mountain of investor-attracting hype this summer over their big leak and everyone agreed that the news was old (al Qeada in Pakistan?!). WL just named names and put a lot of people in danger. That isn't what they are supposed to do - publically at least.

There are many that already exist to do that...Which is in fact how you found the info more or less. But instead wiki is for suppressed info. Which is not the same as what your calling hype.

You're right. I found this news piece on the first site to dig things up - The Drudge Report. And the news story itself ran on ABC News so while it should be common knowledge to many back in the USA, I doubt many outside the USA had heard about it.

Today's news on Wikileaks.

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German criticises WikiLeaks chief as authoritarian

Sep 27 03:31 PM US/Eastern

WikiLeaks' representative in Germany has quit the organisation, criticising the founder of the whistleblower website as being authoritarian, in an interview with Der Spiegel published Monday.

"Julian Assange reacted to the smallest criticism by accusing me of being disobedient and disloyal towards the project," Daniel Schmitt was quoted as saying in an interview posted on the German weekly's website.

"Four weeks ago he suspended me in acting as the judge, jury and executioner at the same time," added Schmitt, 32, who Der Spiegel described as the second most well-known person in the organisation.

He said their dispute centred on technical issues stemming from the website's growth that have gone unaddressed.

"We've grown at a crazy pace these past months and we have an incredible need to become more professional and transparent in all areas," said Schmitt.

He said no one in WikiLeaks's inner circle approved of his suspension, but that apparently doesn't matter.

"WikiLeaks has a structural problem. I don't want to take responsibility for it any longer, that's why I've quit the project.

Created in 2006, WikiLeaks first gained widespread notoriety with the release of a graphic video of a US military Apache helicopter strike in Baghdad in 2007 that killed two Reuters employees and a number of other people.

In July it published nearly 77,000 classified US military documents on the war in Afghanistan on July 23, and intends to publish another 15,000, provoking the wrath of the Pentagon.

In September rape allegations were made in Sweden against Assange, 39, who has called them part of a "smear campaign" aimed at discrediting WikiLeaks.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.cd0ab416a2c7901c0abb23f392c5057d.931&show_article=1

Harcourt is right...wiki is not meant to pick up every sensational event.

Yet there was a mountain of investor-attracting hype this summer over their big leak and everyone agreed that the news was old (al Qeada in Pakistan?!). WL just named names and put a lot of people in danger. That isn't what they are supposed to do - publically at least.

There are many that already exist to do that...Which is in fact how you found the info more or less. But instead wiki is for suppressed info. Which is not the same as what your calling hype.

You're right. I found this news piece on the first site to dig things up - The Drudge Report. And the news story itself ran on ABC News so while it should be common knowledge to many back in the USA, I doubt many outside the USA had heard about it.

Sorry I see my terminology was off...What I meant was wikileaks is specific in its purpose..

Which is a different purpose than say wikipedia and I'm sure you understand that.

I should not have used the word wiki as I did. In that I did not mean to imply that the leak about war crimes was not sensational too. It was suppressed though or attempted to be covered up. It is not for you or I to say that the news was old or trivial. That I am sure is not how the victims families viewed it.

Criminal is criminal...If such acts are to be condoned on the basis that it may put their employers in danger......Well we may as well throw in the towel as none will be able to tell who the truly bad guys are.

While it is disgusting etc lets look at the other side of this and try to see why some of these guys lose it

I am not nor have been in the Military so i am only saying this from an outside standpoint and I am sure some x military will comment.

We send our young guys and gals into war and expect them to act like normal non military personel, we put them in situations where they are exposed to horrific scenes of mutilation mental anguish torture etc, they see things we will never ever see in our lifetime, they experience there fellow comrades, and friends blown up, and killed, they see body parts death and destruction until they are desensitized to it, but we still hold them to our own set of morals, when we have put them in a position where those morals are not upheld.

The mental anguish they must experience in this type of situation is something NON ONE who has not been in that situation can comment on

It must be extremely hard to handle and will breed hatred for those inflicting it upon them and of course some will need to vent there frustrations and some will lose there mind losing the real reality of life when engulfed in so much death and destruction.

There are obvious loose canons but then again I believe there is a lot of mental damage also inflicted on our troops and when there tour is over they are expected to fit right back into society and sometimes this is just not the reality of it.

We don't do enough for our troops when they leave the war zone to help them handle what they have experienced

You know in a way I am not surprised.....

When I was young I had a job at a large drug type store. ( Like CVS/Walgreen type )

I remember talking with the pharmacists & was surprised how much money they made.

But working there I couldn't help but notice. I saw the pharmacist over & over greet the usual customers.....Hello Mrs x how are you today....Well you know my such & such is bad & on & on & on.... kind of depressing I would think

Now if this is what the pharmacists get I imagine a doctor is the same or worse. Unless your a obstetrician & bringing in more new life than your seeing out it must be tough.

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The occupation with the highest suicide rate.

http://www.psycholog...st-suicide-rate

You know in a way I am not surprised.....

When I was young I had a job at a large drug type store. ( Like CVS/Walgreen type )

I remember talking with the pharmacists & was surprised how much money they made.

But working there I couldn't help but notice. I saw the pharmacist over & over greet the usual customers.....Hello Mrs x how are you today....Well you know my such & such is bad & on & on & on.... kind of depressing I would think

Now if this is what the pharmacists get I imagine a doctor is the same or worse. Unless your a obstetrician & bringing in more new life than your seeing out it must be tough.

My parents slowly died in the hospital of cnacer. My dad was in ICU for 6 weeks and after that Mom had me sign a DNR a year later when she went in so she lasted only one week. I remember wondering how these doctors/nurses could stand that day in and day out, watching people die and watching their grieving families just about each and every hour of their shift.

My parents slowly died in the hospital of cnacer. My dad was in ICU for 6 weeks and after that Mom had me sign a DNR a year later when she went in so she lasted only one week. I remember wondering how these doctors/nurses could stand that day in and day out, watching people die and watching their grieving families just about each and every hour of their shift.

Sorry to hear that about your parents. Not an easy time for you either I'm sure.

Yes, I agree about the doctors. Not easy to resolve I imagine.

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