Abduction Of My Daughter, By My Thai Wife

[scott1999]

went to see my daughter yesterday, wow what a very brave girl she is , after 16 months of being lied to , she still found it in her heart to give her dad a cuddle, i am so very proud of her,

i am so sorry for not posting more, but when the mother appealed her own agreement made on the 24th of Jan this year, my heart sank , she had only made the agreement so she could sell the condo i had agreed would be hers, in the settlement, anyway sorry, sorry, sorry.

Now for the better news, the appeal has been seen at the appeals court and they, in their wisdom, have sent it straight back to juvenile with their judgement and thoughts on this matter, now the appeal was all about the mother was sick , she did not know what was going on, that I was in cohorts with the judge and her lawyer, and that the juvenile court did not take due diligence with the case , even though we had 9 hearings. I am told my case is the longest in juvenile history, so i feel much more positive now, thank you to my very good friend Micheal for turning the tide , after 4 hearing i was getting a good bashing from the mothers lawyer and the court, then in came Micheal and he on his own turned the tide, I will always thank you for taking the time to come to the aid of someone in need of help , me, anyway 25th of july is the court date, i promise to update more often, and Michael will write the whole story when it has finished. There are lots of things even Michael did not know, as we walked slowly but surely, in the name of what is best for my child, and justice,

Edited June 4, 2012 by Scott

[Mario2008]

Glad to see you are still standing. Unfortunate that it takes so long, but don't worry, when they start accusing a judge it usually means no good for them. Judges don't like it to be played with.

[scott1999]

Glad to see you are still standing. Unfortunate that it takes so long, but don't worry, when they start accusing a judge it usually means no good for them. Judges don't like it to be played with.

thanks for your support Mario

me and Michael are taking bets, i think the mother will not show on the 25th july, Michael thinks she will, well in 47 days time we will know who won the bet

[scott1999]

Glad to see you are still standing. Unfortunate that it takes so long, but don't worry, when they start accusing a judge it usually means no good for them. Judges don't like it to be played with.

thanks for your support Mario

me and Michael are taking bets, i think the mother will not show on the 25th july, Michael thinks she will, well in 47 days time we will know who won the bet

update

A mile stone 39 days to go , looking like the mother will not show on the day and just appeal to supreme court, good luck to her in that matter, if the appeal court have thrown it out it in supersonic speed, i can see no reason for the supreme court to see it any different.

anyway just a short update,

[scott1999]

hi micheal ,

its very complicated but here goes, i am in thailand my daughter is in thailand my ex is in england, my daughter is being abused on a daily bases by the exs family who are denying the return of my daughter to me , re thai law, is if one parent is out of the country then the child must be with the other parent, they are holding on to her hoping for a paid day, not going to happen, the mother has no interest in my daughter as the proof of here going back to england after she made the juvenile court agreement on the 24th of jan , then she appealed her own agreement to try and get more money from me, anyway the court today went crazy when the mother was a no show, ie the appeal was thrown out, now the court is trying to help me stop the mother appealing to the supreme court, good day today , one more step closer, thanks for your support my friends,

my great friend micheal was again the star of the court, putting the ex wifes new lawyer in his place more then once, evil bottom feeder.

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[Mario2008]

Looks like everything is going well. Congratulations and keep fait.

If she is in England, when there is a court order she might be be prosecuted in the UK for non-compliance/emdangering the child. The possibility of being expelled from the UK could be used to presurre her. But wait till there is a final court decision. Now you have an interest in her not showing up in court and staying abroad.

[scott1999]

here is a draft of a letter i will translate to thai and send to my daughter Dnee Scott's present school, the school of course has been lied to over and over again by the mother and by Dnee's half sisters Ann 30 years old and Mod 24 years old, but the lies are becoming transparent now. please anyone chip in if you have any advice for me re the letter, the letter is designed to show the school how much the mothers side have lied and the pressure my daughter has been under to lie for them, and of course show the PAS

after the agreement dated 24th jan 2012

1 went to the land office at lam luk ka 1st feb , mother said she would not come because she did not have a lawyer. soon after the mother did not come to Dnee's new school, by appointment.

2 around the same time i had a phone call from Dnee , she was screaming at me, she said (mummy has to go back to England because mummy has to find the money to pay for my schooling). i said i do not understand Dnee as mummy can sell her condo soon, so she can stay here in Thailand?

3 soon after me and my lawyer went to the land office and found out Phimpha had sold the condo 88/194 on the 10 of February. i had also found out she was trying to sell Dnee's condo to the man she was renting it to, for 850,000 if he moved quickly.

4 Had a phone call on the 19th of feb, from the Phimpha she was very drunk and screaming at me and laughing at the same time, saying she was off to England tomorrow and that she had won, she said she only went to the court on the 24th so she could sell condo 88/194. She said all men are stupid and that she had beat them all. She said she will never let me be with Dnee again. and put the phone down laughing. To this date she is still in England.

5 went to see Dnee in march and she was happy and said she can go to England when she is 19, i said yes, and we had a cuddle and i went back to work, the next week i went to Dnee's school she was crying i said what's the matter, she said (mummy said i can go to England only if i do not speak to you) she also said ( mummy said that i have to call papa father, from now on) thats Mods father, i was shocked and worried for my daughter heath as she was very very unset, so i left. i have only spoken to dnee once since, on the 25th july by telephone for 2 minutes.

6 went to Dnee school on the 10th of April for the sign out papers as promised to me, by the school, only to find Mod waiting, we had a meeting with the principle and after Mod crying and shouting that Dnee is frightened of me. the principle refused to hand over the papers, so I left.

7 in may made missing persons report at Lam lu ka police station. Also the police wrote a letter to Ann to ask her to contact the police so she could tell us where my Daughter was. As of the date of this letter she has not contacted the police or me. since the Kidnapping of my daughter 12th september 2010 Ann have not spoken to me at all. Apart from telling the Judge on the 24th of jan, that if the mother was out of the country, then it was up to Dnee who she stayed with. The judge explained to her that, (no if the mother is out of the country then it's up to the father) Ann has disregarded that information, and still denying me access to my daughter.

8 went to court on the 25th of july, the mother did not come and is still in England. Ann did not come as summonsed and Dnee did not come as summonsed. The appeal was thrown out, the verdict also said they cannot appeal to the supreme court unless,(please read the end of the appeal). Mod and the mothers lawyer was in court, the judge got very angry when she asked Mod and the lawyer where the mother and Ann was, and they said they did not know. The judge told me not to wait any longer and use paragraph 61 of Thai law to get Dnee into her new boarding school. I said i will contact Dnee's principle at Rama 2 as she has promised Dnee can stay for only one more term at her school. when i went there on the 10th April for the sign out papers, to help me with a smooth change of schools for Dnee.

oops the agreement order made the 24th jan 2012 was

my daughter goes to an international school of my choice, as i have 100 percent of education rights,

we share parental powers , but if ether party breaks the agreement the the other gets 100 percent physical custody.

assets are divided,

thats about it. i can enforce this order with me getting 100 percent custody after 30 days from 25th of july, if the mother does not appeal to the supreme court, even if she does try the appeal the judges are trying to help me by using paragraph 61 of thai law to move my daughter, the mother has lost all credibility in the courts eyes, and have said so.

[scott1999]

ok today was the day i went for it, not taking my daughter back as that would be an event we may not recover from, but i went to my daughters school , to hopefully see Dnee and to win some hearts and minds at the same time, started at 6am , rode my scooter to the other side of Bangkok , took 4 hours to get there, in to the school with the new court order, thinking i would be shown the door, but no a miracle happened, they started to believe the courts, i think because the mother was a no show on the 25th of july, they said Dnee will come to see you at 12,oclock , so i popped out and bought some KFC and a nice big cake, and wow, my Daughter was happy to see me , means the alienation has slowed from the mothers side, she was more happy when i presented Dnee with her own condo, as that was in the agreement 24th jan which is law again, and even more happy with a justin bebier shirt , ha ha

[Mario2008]

Good to hear everything is moving in the right direction and you are seeing your daughter.

[scott1999]

thanks mario and friends,

micheal has helped so much , i just cannot believe what he has done for me, but micheal would say he has done it not for me, but for the child, i would like to make a point, i feel the thai courts are fair to men but just a bit slow, but over all i cannot complain to much as this is not my country , and i choose to be a guest here, lawyers well that is a different story.

[kevjohn]

thanks mario and friends,

micheal has helped so much , i just cannot believe what he has done for me, but micheal would say he has done it not for me, but for the child, i would like to make a point, i feel the thai courts are fair to men but just a bit slow, but over all i cannot complain to much as this is not my country , and i choose to be a guest here, lawyers well that is a different story.

Glad to see everything is heading in the right direction. Hopefully the end is near.

[nontabury]

Just read the latest posts on this tread, two things stick out to me.1/ your daughters Thai relations are causing her future mental problem, the quicker she out of their control the better.2/ this shows again that the Thai courts when dealing with child issues are much fairer to the fathers than the case in farang countries, they seem to make the welfare and future of the child to be paramount.

We all criticise Thai law, be it the police,lawyers,courts etc but when it comes to children, they seem to use a large amount of wisdom..

Good luck to you and your daughter

[scott1999]

thanks mario and friends,

micheal has helped so much , i just cannot believe what he has done for me, but micheal would say he has done it not for me, but for the child, i would like to make a point, i feel the thai courts are fair to men but just a bit slow, but over all i cannot complain to much as this is not my country , and i choose to be a guest here, lawyers well that is a different story.

Glad to see everything is heading in the right direction. Hopefully the end is near.

Just read the latest posts on this tread, two things stick out to me.1/ your daughters Thai relations are causing her future mental problem, the quicker she out of their control the better.2/ this shows again that the Thai courts when dealing with child issues are much fairer to the fathers than the case in farang countries, they seem to make the welfare and future of the child to be paramount.

We all criticise Thai law, be it the police,lawyers,courts etc but when it comes to children, they seem to use a large amount of wisdom..

Good luck to you and your daughter

thank you for your comments, and also agree whole heartily with nontabury, the mothers side still to this day do not get this, the appeal was all about poor me ie mother , and asking for 30,000 bt a month for her to come back to take care of my daughter, nothing about her future, not one word. thanks again people, i am feeling a bit emotional today plus i have gout, through stress and bad eating, every word is a boost to me.

[scott1999]

found out over the weekend , that the mother of my daughter who has been in england since feb this year has appealed her own agreement dated 24th of jan this year, to the supreme court, after she had already appealed to the appeals court and it was rejected and the appeal court said she cannot appeal to the supreme court, all this while she is not even in the country, looks like i will have to wait a bit longer, but i will get soul custody now that she is upsetting the courts of her own country. better for my daughter and her education for the future, that the mother and her family cannot stop my daughter getting a very good education.

[kevjohn]

found out over the weekend , that the mother of my daughter who has been in england since feb this year has appealed her own agreement dated 24th of jan this year, to the supreme court, after she had already appealed to the appeals court and it was rejected and the appeal court said she cannot appeal to the supreme court, all this while she is not even in the country, looks like i will have to wait a bit longer, but i will get soul custody now that she is upsetting the courts of her own country. better for my daughter and her education for the future, that the mother and her family cannot stop my daughter getting a very good education.

Thanks for the update Scott.

There is a saying...."Good things come to those who wait"........When it's all over you will be able to give you daughter the best life possible.

[Mario2008]

She is just throwing money away and playing games. As you say, judges don't like that and she is shooting herself in the foot.

Just be patient, all is going well although not as quickly as you would like.

[scott1999]

thank you my friends for your interest in my affairs, i feel like i have been to hell and back, but with all your help and of course micheal , who as been a rock for me on a daily basis, i feel i am coming out of a dark tunnel, stronger and more wiser, it was for sure a life changing event. me and micheal have learnt a lot about the thai system , that we can soon pass on to any one who happens to get their selves in the same pickle as me.

thanks again for all your time and support.

[Trembly]

I hope you don't mind me saying so but I'm finding this thread positively riveting!

Glad to see things going in the right direction so far. She appears to be a cracking sort of being too, judging from the photograph. I expect she's learnt a lot from these recent experiences.

As a loog-krueng myself I went through something not dissimilar to the story of Dnee when I was only slightly older than her and at first it was very confusing but it wasn't long before my sense of 'smell' kicked in and I started to suss things out for myself. People don't give kids enough credit for the sense that they can have.

Best of luck.

Edited August 31, 2012 by Trembly

[scott1999]

I hope you don't mind me saying so but I'm finding this thread positively riveting!

Glad to see things going in the right direction so far. She appears to be a cracking sort of being too, judging from the photograph. I expect she's learnt a lot from these recent experiences.

As a loog-krueng myself I went through something not dissimilar to the story of Dnee when I was only slightly older than her and at first it was very confusing but it wasn't long before my sense of 'smell' kicked in and I started to suss things out for myself. People don't give kids enough credit for the sense that they can have.

Best of luck.

be my guest , please chip in any time you like, to agree or disagree, or to add your experiences , i like your input very much and i do think Dnee is working it out for herself now, but they are able to make her weak and worry that shee will lose them if she even talks to me. but as you said as you get older you start to smell the coffee, and stop drinking the kool aid

[scott1999]

short update, mother has appealed to the supreme court, even though the appeals court said she cannot, so i have put in the rebuttal,

the mother is still in England as of 20th Feb,

its my daughters birthday soon, so i will be going to see her at her school, and try to explain that i will not do anything till the appeal has been throw out,

at least there are no more appeals after this one,

sorry not much happening at the moment, just waiting for the paperwork.

[Livinginexile]

Wow....and wow again!! you are an amazing man Scott!

You have a lot of people cheering for you, all the best my friend

[JUDAS]

scott. For what it's worth sir, you are in my opinion a real man, not that many of those around anymore. I wish you and your daughter all the very best for the future.

[scott1999]

Wow....and wow again!! you are an amazing man Scott!

You have a lot of people cheering for you, all the best my friend

scott. For what it's worth sir, you are in my opinion a real man, not that many of those around anymore. I wish you and your daughter all the very best for the future.

thank you for your support and everyone that has taken an interest in my case, i still talk to Michael on a daily bases and will always be thankful that thaivisa was here when i needed you all, i still do need all your support as it helps give me the strength to carry on. Thank you all from the bottom of my now stronger heart. Anyway short update , went to see my daughter yesterday for her birthday, i told her i will wait for the supreme court to finish ie thrown out, heres a funny thing , i asked my daughter (do you still want daddy to fighter mummy for your condo ) as in the appeal from the mother to the supreme court the mother is asking for the condo we both agreed on the 24th of jan this year to belong to my daughter, to now belong to the mother, my daughter said yes daddy fighter mummy for her condo, ha ha , how things are changing, i am so proud of my daughter , after all the lies and abuse she is starting to think for herself, sorry just a short update , november we should have news from the supreme court.

Edited October 2, 2012 by scott1999

[Mario2008]

Great news.

The condo will be no problem if you both agreed to it and can proof it. A judge will not like going back on that and once in the possesion of your daugther it will be under full protection of the courts.

Good that your daughter has her fighting spirit and coming November it should all come to an end.

Just hang in there.

[kevjohn]

Wow....and wow again!! you are an amazing man Scott!

You have a lot of people cheering for you, all the best my friend

scott. For what it's worth sir, you are in my opinion a real man, not that many of those around anymore. I wish you and your daughter all the very best for the future.

thank you for your support and everyone that has taken an interest in my case, i still talk to Michael on a daily bases and will always be thankful that thaivisa was here when i needed you all, i still do need all your support as it helps give me the strength to carry on. Thank you all from the bottom of my now stronger heart. Anyway short update , went to see my daughter yesterday for her birthday, i told her i will wait for the supreme court to finish ie thrown out, heres a funny thing , i asked my daughter (do you still want daddy to fighter mummy for your condo ) as in the appeal from the mother to the supreme court the mother is asking for the condo we both agreed on the 24th of jan this year to belong to my daughter, to now belong to the mother, my daughter said yes daddy fighter mummy for her condo, ha ha , how things are changing, i am so proud of my daughter , after all the lies and abuse she is starting to think for herself, sorry just a short update , november we should have news from the supreme court.

You are "One of a Kind". Good luck in November.

[scott1999]

thank you all for your replies and support again. when i see my Daughter i get like a boost of energy that recharges my batteries. Its a funny feeling.

Anyway I phoned Dnee today as it will be the last chance to speak with her till after the schools half term holidays, She asked me to get one more watch for her best friend i of course agreed.

It showed me she is getting stronger, and fighting the mothers families continued alienation against me.

Ha ha i never really knew what love was till this event in my life, big thanks to my girlfriend for sticking by me and for Michael a true warrior for the best interests of the child. Plus for all the people on thaivisa giving me so much hope in the dark dark times. Its not over yet but well on the way. Please keep safe everyone out there for my selfish reasons i need you all. Plus when i do get reunited with my Daughter i must have a party to show Dnee all the people that helped me do this. One day closer, thanks again people

photo is of Dnee and my one and only dog Beau. Taken when we lived in England.

[scott1999]

Hi all.

I said i would update in November as i was in hope that the supreme court would have ordered by now. But it was not to be, Micheal my great friend has been to the supreme court twice now. The news from them is that they are doing the best they can to push it through their system.

As for my daughter i have been to see her at her school many times over the last 3 weeks as i have been on holiday. She is ok, but i think she wants this over as much as i do. The mother of my daughter has not come back to Thailand since leaving on the 20th feb this year, and my daughter has said to me that she has not spoken to her mother for some time now.

So i will carry on waiting for the supreme court to order,

sorry about the not so good news, but as i have said you people her on Thaivisa have supported me through think and thin, and you always give me a lift with your comments, good or bad, but as my story has unfolded, not that many bad anymore.

ps i have promised my daughter that i will go and see her on the 25th of December with some presents. Please if any one has a good idea on how i can make the hour that i will get with my daughter even better, please chip in, its all a bit to heavy for both of us and i need something to lighten the mood, if you can understand what i mean?

anyway good news soon i hope from the supreme court, then there will be the mother of all parties and you are all invited. Bye for now.

Edited December 2, 2012 by scott1999

[kaorop]

yes thats what i heard "stop fighting"

but

like it takes 2 to tango it takes 2 to fix shit.

at the end of the day if you've done your best, that's all that matters

but i think she wants this over as much as i do. The mother of my daughter

i need something to lighten the mood,

just play with her, on her level, no need to make it special imo,

just normal at this time.

.

[kevjohn]

Sorry to hear that things have not been finalised yet. Keep the chin up.

As for the 25th December, give your daughter a big hug and a kiss and tell her that she had many people from TV, wishing her a happy life.

All the best to you and your daughter and enjoy your time together on Christmas day.

[Boo]

Just being with her & showing her that you want her will be enough I think. She must feel incredibly confused at her mother leaving. Fingers crossed the final custody is given to you both as a new year gift