hehehoho Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 I have just read a few more posts on the rideasia site about the moto3 ( cb"R" 250's ) race over the weekend and it seems like those little thumpers were posting lap times faster then the 650 Kawasakis! Perhaps those racing Kawasaki 650s need to upgrade to the CBR250R if they want to improve their lap times. Just taking a look at the times and well, CBR250R on pole at 1:29.2 and 4 riders under 1:30. Fastest lap at 1:28.7 The fastest Er-6n couldn't break 1:31. With most getting best times in the 1:34s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hehehoho Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 This is apparently the Yoshi dyno graph they're emailing people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackjones Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Thanks for posting those lap times. Quite illuminating. I saw a few video clips of the ER6's racing on that track and it looked like there were a few decent straights. Apparently the class the CBR's are racing in is called Moto3 (production) and the bikes have to run on road tyres. I read that the CBR's were carrying much higher corner speeds than the Kawasakis. Perhaps they do handle after all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bongiorgio Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 (edited) This is apparently the Yoshi dyno graph they're emailing people. what´s the difference between the red and the green graph? + 1,5 hp isn`t bad from what we´ve seen so far. cheers Edited July 20, 2011 by bongiorgio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hehehoho Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Thailand Circuit btw: Doesn't look like stock tyres on in those pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visions Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Thanks for posting those lap times. Quite illuminating. I saw a few video clips of the ER6's racing on that track and it looked like there were a few decent straights. Apparently the class the CBR's are racing in is called Moto3 (production) and the bikes have to run on road tyres. I read that the CBR's were carrying much higher corner speeds than the Kawasakis. Perhaps they do handle after all? The Honda MotoGP3 bike is NOT the same as the for sale in Thailand CBR250R. Totaly different chassis and suspension. The engine is based on the stock CBR250 but severly modified to produce (from memory) in excess of 45hp. The MotoGP3 bike is sold as a limited production track bike. It is not road legal in any country. (well maybe in the back blocks of Isaan) It is available through Honda dealers in Australia for the tidy sum of $13000 or approximately 420,000 THB I doubt any Thai dealers even know of its existance??? but I presume made in Thailand. Now the dream is if they were to make one half way between the two for higher performance road use??? maybe then some would be ok to have the capital R after CBR250 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hehehoho Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 (edited) The Honda MotoGP3 bike is NOT the same as the for sale in Thailand CBR250R. Totaly different chassis and suspension. The engine is based on the stock CBR250 but severly modified to produce (from memory) in excess of 45hp. I've a feeling you're confusing it with the NSF250. Honda has built such a motorcycle with the NSF250R and presented during the Grand Prix of Catalunya. The Honda NSF 250 R is a newly developed 250cc four-stroke single-cylinder engine powered by the 35.5 kW (48.2 HORSEPOWER) is at 13,000 rpm. The new 250 to be delivered starting in December in the color white and costs expected to 20000 euro of plus statutory value added tax. Edited July 20, 2011 by hehehoho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visions Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 The Honda MotoGP3 bike is NOT the same as the for sale in Thailand CBR250R. Totaly different chassis and suspension. The engine is based on the stock CBR250 but severly modified to produce (from memory) in excess of 45hp. I've a feeling you're confusing it with the NSF250. Honda has built such a motorcycle with the NSF250R and presented during the Grand Prix of Catalunya. The Honda NSF 250 R is a newly developed 250cc four-stroke single-cylinder engine powered by the 35.5 kW (48.2 HORSEPOWER) is at 13,000 rpm. The new 250 to be delivered starting in December in the color white and costs expected to 20000 euro of plus statutory value added tax. That is the one and the same..... developed by Honda for MotoGP3. It says it is a new engine.....in fact yes it is, but the same basic engine as the CBR...just heavily modified/tuned.including castings electronics etc. Im sure the Honda factory bikes would be a lot higher tune again. Apparently to qualify for MotoGP class, there needs be a minimum production run made...hence the limited supply available to public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hehehoho Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 (edited) That is the one and the same..... Umm, no it isn't. Very, very much so. The 48HP NSF250 doesn't start racing until 2012. Unveiled in Catalonia last month: Edited July 20, 2011 by hehehoho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaicbr Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 hehehehe. THATS WHAT VISIONS is saying the Thai Moto 3 is the Thai Cbr250r's modified whereas the International Honda Moto3 is the bike above. And yes various Moto 3 bikes from various manufacturers are becoming available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSJ Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 From hehehoho's post: "The Honda NSF 250 R is a newly developed 250cc four-stroke single-cylinder engine powered by the 35.5 kW (48.2 HORSEPOWER) is at 13,000 rpm. " I know nothing about this bike. Are the cams, head, EFI, etc interchangable with the CBR250r? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hehehoho Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 From hehehoho's post: "The Honda NSF 250 R is a newly developed 250cc four-stroke single-cylinder engine powered by the 35.5 kW (48.2 HORSEPOWER) is at 13,000 rpm. " I know nothing about this bike. Are the cams, head, EFI, etc interchangable with the CBR250r? No, they are two completely different bikes and engines. The only thing relating them is the single cylinder and cc capacity. http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/sport/sportresults/MotoGP/2011/June/jun0211-honda-unveils-new-moto3-bike/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hehehoho Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 hehehehe. THATS WHAT VISIONS is saying the Thai Moto 3 is the Thai Cbr250r's modified whereas the International Honda Moto3 is the bike above. Sorry, I thought he said they were 'one and the same' (the modified CBRs the Thai lads are racing, and the Honda NSF250R). They aren't anything close or related in any way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hehehoho Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 btw, anyone think of getting rid of the tail and sticking the plate under the rear fairing? Pic isn't at a good angle, but think it would look good if done correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hili Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 btw, anyone think of getting rid of the tail and sticking the plate under the rear fairing? Pic isn't at a good angle, but think it would look good if done correctly. If you want to get dirty that's ok. I would prefer the tidy tail which is offered by several shops. Actually i have it but never installed due you have to cut a holder on the back...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED21 Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 btw, anyone think of getting rid of the tail and sticking the plate under the rear fairing? Pic isn't at a good angle, but think it would look good if done correctly. btw, anyone think of getting rid of the tail and sticking the plate under the rear fairing? Pic isn't at a good angle, but think it would look good if done correctly. If you want to get dirty that's ok. I would prefer the tidy tail which is offered by several shops. Actually i have it but never installed due you have to cut a holder on the back...... A thai coworker (who's into bikes as well) caught me looking at the picture. He said it made the bike look "baan nok" then shakes hi head and goes "Sia dai" . I have to agree with Hili a tail tidy would be preferable... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hehehoho Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 tbf it should only the missus' back that will get dirty, unless you're riding through massive puddles. Which is a good way of getting her kit off as soon as ye get home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokerkid Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 I have just read a few more posts on the rideasia site about the moto3 ( cb"R" 250's ) race over the weekend and it seems like those little thumpers were posting lap times faster then the 650 Kawasakis! Perhaps those racing Kawasaki 650s need to upgrade to the CBR250R if they want to improve their lap times. Just taking a look at the times and well, CBR250R on pole at 1:29.2 and 4 riders under 1:30. Fastest lap at 1:28.7 The fastest Er-6n couldn't break 1:31. With most getting best times in the 1:34s. Does anybody know what the fastest lap on this circuit is , set on a kawasaki ninja 250 with similar tyres ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
engrin Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 Just locked in a red 200R ABS for 125k including paperwork but no insurnce = one happy camper! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SumetCycle Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 We were paid a visit by Khun Nam of Namban Racing yesterday. Namban has just devloped a new aftermarket exhaust and pipe for the CBR 250. There is a race version and a silenced street version available. He kindly gave us one to test. We have installed it on a staff member's CBR 250. He has reported greatly improved acceleration and power. There are many different colors available and they retail for only 6,000 baht. I'll post some photos and a video later today. Thanks. Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hehehoho Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 Cool, how quiet is the street version, compared to say the Remus, would it be quieter or pretty much the same? Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SumetCycle Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 Cool, how quiet is the street version, compared to say the Remus, would it be quieter or pretty much the same? Cheers. The track version is loud as hell. The street version is a bit louder than the Remus, but I actually like the Namban sound better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hehehoho Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 Cheers. That'll be pretty loud then. I still haven't decided which pipe to go for, definitely a good price on that one though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SumetCycle Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 (edited) Here is a link to a video of the new Namban exhaust: Edited July 22, 2011 by SumetCycle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apetley Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 Here is a link to a video of the new Namban exhaust: <deleted> me hope he warmed the engine up before revving it like that!!! Looks and sounds quite nice. Not too loud. Not sure about the rainbow effect on the silencer can though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBikeBKK Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 Here is a link to a video of the new Namban exhaust: A pink and baby blue pipe?! Almost as gay as the bike! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SumetCycle Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 Here is a link to a video of the new Namban exhaust: <deleted> me hope he warmed the engine up before revving it like that!!! Looks and sounds quite nice. Not too loud. Not sure about the rainbow effect on the silencer can though. I'm not crazy about that particular color pattern either. However, there are other colors available. Different strokes for different folks, I guess. I'll try to post some pics of other colors soon. Thanks. Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaicbr Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 I think it actually looks like a car muffler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hehehoho Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 Here is a link to a video of the new Namban exhaust: A pink and baby blue pipe?! Almost as gay as the bike! Not to worry. You'd probably only see it from behind on yer Er-6n. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just1Voice Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 Here is a link to a video of the new Namban exhaust: A pink and baby blue pipe?! Almost as gay as the bike! Not to worry. You'd probably only see it from behind on yer Er-6n. Too funny, but probably true. hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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