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Is Obama To Blame For The Unrest In Many Arab Countries?

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There's nothing in the online versions of the newspapers, you'd think Murdoch would be all over it like flies on a bag of prawns in the sun.

It made the rounds of the internet in 2009!

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game over soon for Obama. my redneck hunting buddies in Florida and Georgia have started celebrating. an hour ago this is what they sent to me:

Kaosan Road fakes......maybe his passport too ? :lol::rolleyes:

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There's nothing in the online versions of the newspapers, you'd think Murdoch would be all over it like flies on a bag of prawns in the sun.

Murdoch's Fox News has said long ago that Obama was born in Hawaii. They showed the birth announcements from the local newspapers. Case closed.

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You see the power of ThaiVisa ??

I've got Ben Bernanke on the ropes in rOUND 1

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/retailandconsumer/8302111/Fed-chief-Ben-Bernanke-denies-US-policy-behind-record-global-food-prices.html

(He didn't read the article properly, though. My comments were about turning good agricultural land into bio-fuel production areas - basically using food for running cars, rather than for feeding the masses.)

(And what about all the byproducts from crude oil? If one uses corn/potatoes/etc., for production of ethanol one has waste. If one uses crude for the production of petrol one has monomers, polymers, olefins, all sorts of things to make plastics and other products, oils for lubrication, detergents, the list of down-stream by-products is almost endless)

(Thus spake the refinery man)

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There's nothing in the online versions of the newspapers, you'd think Murdoch would be all over it like flies on a bag of prawns in the sun.

Murdoch's Fox News has said long ago that Obama was born in Hawaii. They showed the birth announcements from the local newspapers. Case closed.

Was Hawaii a State of the Union in those days?

I recall 48 states when I was at school. I think both Hawaii and Alaska came in later, but I may be mistaken (probably Puerto Rico joined after the release of 'West Side Story')

Was Hawaii a State of the Union in those days?

aHAAAAAA. Just think, everyone else missed that! :lol:

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Was Hawaii a State of the Union in those days?

aHAAAAAA. Just think, everyone else missed that! :lol:

All I know about Hawaii is that

1) the flag incorporates the Union Jack,

2) If Captain Cook hadn't tripped over Australia on his voyages, we'd probably have exported all our convicts there, instead.

4) Great surfing

5) Great volcanoes

6) Danno is still chasing gangsters

7) Lawn-mowers are forbidden around the ladies in grass skirts.

Anuything else I should know?

There's nothing in the online versions of the newspapers, you'd think Murdoch would be all over it like flies on a bag of prawns in the sun.

Murdoch's Fox News has said long ago that Obama was born in Hawaii. They showed the birth announcements from the local newspapers. Case closed.

Was Hawaii a State of the Union in those days?

I recall 48 states when I was at school. I think both Hawaii and Alaska came in later, but I may be mistaken (probably Puerto Rico joined after the release of 'West Side Story')

"President Dwight D. Eisenhower signed the Hawaii Admission Act on March 18, 1959 which allowed for Hawaiian statehood. After a vote of over 93% in favor of statehood, it was admitted as the 50th state on August 21, 1959, with a population of about 423,620 (85%) Americans and foreigners and 76,620 (15%) Native Hawaiians."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Hawaii#Statehood

Obama was born in 1961, August 4th

LaoPo

Obama was born in 1961, August 4th

Could he be lying about that too? :D

Obama was born in 1961, August 4th

Could he be lying about that too? :D

if his lips are moving there is a 98% chance that he is.

I read an editorial recently that made this assertion:

"If Jimmy Carter went down in history as the President who lost Iran, will Obama go down in history as the President who lost Lebanon, Turkey, Tunisia and Egypt?"

An interesting theory which could prove to be true.

I see all of this as more of an Islamic uprising than anything else. The dominoes are beginning to fall, hopefully not to Islamic extremism.

I read an editorial recently that made this assertion:

"If Jimmy Carter went down in history as the President who lost Iran, will Obama go down in history as the President who lost Lebanon, Turkey, Tunisia and Egypt?"

Churchill and Eisenhower were the Prime Minister and President who lost Iran by sticking a dictator into power there.

I read an editorial recently that made this assertion:

"If Jimmy Carter went down in history as the President who lost Iran, will Obama go down in history as the President who lost Lebanon, Turkey, Tunisia and Egypt?"

Churchill and Eisenhower were the Prime Minister and President who lost Iran by sticking a dictator into power there.

Mossadeq was hardly the answer for Iran either. Looking back, I would expect many pundits would agree putting the Shah in place was the right thing to do at the time, IMHO.

I read an editorial recently that made this assertion:

"If Jimmy Carter went down in history as the President who lost Iran, will Obama go down in history as the President who lost Lebanon, Turkey, Tunisia and Egypt?"

Churchill and Eisenhower were the Prime Minister and President who lost Iran by sticking a dictator into power there.

Mossadeq was hardly the answer for Iran either. Looking back, I would expect many pundits would agree putting the Shah in place was the right thing to do at the time, IMHO.

Mossadeq was a democratically elected Prime Minister. I thought we were in favour of democracies? Oh, I forgot - he wanted Iranian oil to belong to the Iranians. There's that pesky oil again.

Actually Mossadeq fixed the "democratic" election which is why he was ousted from power.

Obama was born in 1961, August 4th

Could he be lying about that too? :D

:o..could he speak, immediately after his birth ?

LaoPo

Obama was born in 1961, August 4th

Could he be lying about that too? :D

:o..could he speak, immediately after his birth ?

LaoPo

Yup. This guy was born with a silver teleprompter at his cribside.

Actually Mossadeq fixed the "democratic" election which is why he was ousted from power.

Mossadeq was ousted from power in a coup orchestrated by the CIA and requested by MI6 (Operation Ajax).

The UK government was unhappy about the fact that Mossadeq had nationalised the oil industry and sidelined the UK's single most valuable foreign asset (the Anglo-Iranian Oil company - latterly BP). The CIA then went on to train SAVAK, the Iranian secret police which spent 30 years terrorising the people of Iran. The situation in Iran today is a direct result of that coup.

Actually Mossadeq fixed the "democratic" election which is why he was ousted from power.

so what? fixed elections happen all over... e.g. in Florida where Al Gore was "defeated" :whistling:

Actually Mossadeq fixed the "democratic" election which is why he was ousted from power.

Mossadeq was ousted from power in a coup

AFTER he fixed the election and the Egyptians all knew it.

Actually Mossadeq fixed the "democratic" election which is why he was ousted from power.

Mossadeq was ousted from power in a coup

AFTER he fixed the election and the Egyptians all knew it.

Mossadeq was ousted from power in a coup orchestrated by the CIA and requested by MI6 (Operation Ajax).

The UK government was unhappy about the fact that Mossadeq had nationalised the oil industry and sidelined the UK's single most valuable foreign asset (the Anglo-Iranian Oil company - latterly BP). The CIA then went on to train SAVAK, the Iranian secret police which spent 30 years terrorising the people of Iran. The situation in Iran today is a direct result of that coup.

As you sew so shall you reap.

As you sew so shall you reap.

Indeed. If Mossadeq had not stolen the election, the coup would not have had the support of the Egyptian people and probably would not have happened or succeeded.

As you sew so shall you reap.

Indeed. If Mossadeq had not stolen the election, the coup would not have had the support of the Egyptian people and would not have happened.

I think you may be slightly confused. Mossadeq was the Prime Minister of Iran who was deposed in 1953 by a combination of the CIA and MI6. What does he have to do with Egypt?

There are much less biased accounts than the one linked to your link, but this is easy.

Dr. Mosaddeq had by now figured out that there was a plot against him. He moved to consolidate power by calling for a national referendum to dissolve Parliament. The results of the Aug. 4 referendum were clearly rigged in his favor; foreign media reported the same day that the prime minister had won 99.9 percent of the vote. This only helped the plotters, providing "an issue on which Mosaddeq could be relentlessly attacked" by the agency-backed opposition press.

Actually Mossadeq fixed the "democratic" election which is why he was ousted from power.

Mossadeq was ousted from power in a coup orchestrated by the CIA and requested by MI6 (Operation Ajax).

The UK government was unhappy about the fact that Mossadeq had nationalised the oil industry and sidelined the UK's single most valuable foreign asset (the Anglo-Iranian Oil company - latterly BP). The CIA then went on to train SAVAK, the Iranian secret police which spent 30 years terrorising the people of Iran. The situation in Iran today is a direct result of that coup.

The situation in Iran today is a direct result of President Jimmy Carter throwing the Shah of Iran under the bus in 1978 by withdrawing US support for the Shah's government. This led to the Islamic Revolution of 1978/79 and resulted in the return of Ayatollah Khomeini to Iran in January 1979.

SAVAK was originally trained by the CIA, Mossad and whichever MI was involved. They were brutal interrogators, using whatever force was required to break a suspect down. After the overthrow of the Shah, many of these same SAVAK agents started working for a group called SAVAMA, which was the secret police arm of the Iranian Revolution and the aforementioned Ayatollah Khomeini. The 30 year reign of terror you point out has now morphed into one of some 58 years.

The secret police are alive and well today in each and every country in the Middle East. Many of them still practice the same tactics of interrogation and questioning SAVAK did.

Nothing has changed in Iran since the Shah was deposed except the acronyms of some agencies.

Actually Mossadeq fixed the "democratic" election which is why he was ousted from power.

Mossadeq was ousted from power in a coup orchestrated by the CIA and requested by MI6 (Operation Ajax).

The UK government was unhappy about the fact that Mossadeq had nationalised the oil industry and sidelined the UK's single most valuable foreign asset (the Anglo-Iranian Oil company - latterly BP). The CIA then went on to train SAVAK, the Iranian secret police which spent 30 years terrorising the people of Iran. The situation in Iran today is a direct result of that coup.

The situation in Iran today is a direct result of President Jimmy Carter throwing the Shah of Iran under the bus in 1978 by withdrawing US support for the Shah's government. This led to the Islamic Revolution of 1978/79 and resulted in the return of Ayatollah Khomeini to Iran in January 1979.

SAVAK was originally trained by the CIA, Mossad and whichever MI was involved. They were brutal interrogators, using whatever force was required to break a suspect down. After the overthrow of the Shah, many of these same SAVAK agents started working for a group called SAVAMA, which was the secret police arm of the Iranian Revolution and the aforementioned Ayatollah Khomeini. The 30 year reign of terror you point out has now morphed into one of some 58 years.

The secret police are alive and well today in each and every country in the Middle East. Many of them still practice the same tactics of interrogation and questioning SAVAK did.

Nothing has changed in Iran since the Shah was deposed except the acronyms of some agencies.

i dont know the details but i do know a few iranians, one of them had a father who owned a movie cinema, this of course was taken by the ayotolla, and from what he has told me the ayotolla has had more people killed then the sha ever came close to.

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I worked in Iran during the last years of the Shah-an-Shah. It was a very prosperous country with a very Westernised outlook. All religions were tolerated, Armenian Christian churches, Zoroastrian temples, Jewish synagogues and Bahai temples alongside many beatiful mosques that were open to all visitors. The Shah's palace in Shiraz (where I was based) was open to the public when he was not in residence, beautiful gardens everywhere, the tombs of Hafez and Saadi (two of the great Persian poets) visited by many people every day.

The Shah was not the problem - some of his family (especially his sister) were - very corrupt and very conspicuous spenders/consumers of all luxuries.

His big mistake was allowing Ayatollah Khomeini to live - he was exiled to Iraq in the mid sixties, then moved to Paris, as France thought they could disrupt the British influence in Iran. If Khomeini had been quietly put away, we would not have the Iran we have today. Maybe we would have had a communist state, as the USSR had a contiguous border with Iran and a lot of influence in the North, but not the religious fanaticism that we have today throughout the Middle East. Jimmy Carter failed to support one of the Western world's most capable neighbours in the Middle East and we are still reaping the problems that this caused.

JC is as big a war criminal as Tony Bliar in this respect. Both should be hung.

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