Wood

[toan6082]

building bungalows and will build the walls floor and verandah out of termite and weather proof wood(teak etc)as i need quite a bit of wood for 20 bungalows can anyone suggest a good place that is cheap anywhere in thailand as petchabun prices seem to be high. thanks

[sezze]

There are cheaper places for teak wood and other wood in Thailand , but in general , wood is mighty expensive . Teak to be the most expensive of it all . Unless the wood is cut illegally and that is at the cheaper places in Thailand you'll be expecting a hefty pricetag . I do not recommend buying illegal wood for a couple of reasons . Deforrestation being 1 and nr 2 if they catch you ( and trucks with wood are stopped all the time ) you will be fined big time and i think prison is possible .

[toan6082]

There are cheaper places for teak wood and other wood in Thailand , but in general , wood is mighty expensive . Teak to be the most expensive of it all . Unless the wood is cut illegally and that is at the cheaper places in Thailand you'll be expecting a hefty pricetag . I do not recommend buying illegal wood for a couple of reasons . Deforrestation being 1 and nr 2 if they catch you ( and trucks with wood are stopped all the time ) you will be fined big time and i think prison is possible .

understand the above but as i will be spending about 1000000 baht just on leagel teak i am trying to find the cheapest leagel teak possible

[sezze]

As far as i heard ...

Chiang Mai area has teak ( most illegally cut ) . If you look on the internet ( Thai script ) you will certainly find some wood dealers in that area and give them a call .

Other woodspecies are cheaper and have also mighty good properties , mai pradoo ( or mai doo ) and mai deang being the 1st on the list , mai makha is also extremely good .

[rgs2001uk]

1,000,000 for 20 bungalows works out to 50,000 per bungalow.

You may wish to reconsider your choice of wood.

I am in the process of pricing up wood for a new house, the wood will be mai daeng.

Cost for tongued and grooved mai daeng, 6 inches wide, 2 cm thick and 1 metre length works out at just below 2,000 baht per square metre.

This would give you 25 sq of wood per bungalow, what are the dimensions of your bungalows?

As mentioned by another poster, makka is an excellent choice if you can afford it, on your budget I doubt it.

[bankruatsteve]

Yah - I've tried to find ANY wood - escpeciall good grade plywood in the Udon area and ended up getting some crap from Global that was expensive to boot. Wood for construction is only the mai daeng stuff (solid but nothing is straight) and that was more expensive than I thought it should be.

And, I don't really know... but I thought teak was illegal unless it has like government stamps on it. (?)

[sezze]

Yes , stamps , or papers or something like that .

50k per bungalow in teak ... i do not think he kan make it . Even in plywood 50k per bungalow must be a very small .

[toan6082]

1,000,000 for 20 bungalows works out to 50,000 per bungalow.

You may wish to reconsider your choice of wood.

I am in the process of pricing up wood for a new house, the wood will be mai daeng.

Cost for tongued and grooved mai daeng, 6 inches wide, 2 cm thick and 1 metre length works out at just below 2,000 baht per square metre.

This would give you 25 sq of wood per bungalow, what are the dimensions of your bungalows?

As mentioned by another poster, makka is an excellent choice if you can afford it, on your budget I doubt it.

bungalows will be 4x5. 1x4 will be wet area so no wood .. 3x3 inside living . remainder outside area

[extexthai]

You would be amazed (no pun intended) at how affordable and easily obtainable, older teak out buildings (think rice barns or their equivalent of....) are to buy. You would have to have a salvage crew to wreck them and load them on a truck to take where ever. Our neighbor just sold an old building with 50 cm x 50 cm teak posts that you can't get anymore for almost nothing (compared to teak prices new). You have to drive around and have a native speaker with you and let them do the dealing...preferably with you not there...to avoid any faraang pricing. Most people really don't know what they have in their yards, as far a mini-gold mines go. Give it a try, especially if you are in the northern part of Thailand, where they are plentiful. ett

[rgs2001uk]

1,000,000 for 20 bungalows works out to 50,000 per bungalow.

You may wish to reconsider your choice of wood.

I am in the process of pricing up wood for a new house, the wood will be mai daeng.

Cost for tongued and grooved mai daeng, 6 inches wide, 2 cm thick and 1 metre length works out at just below 2,000 baht per square metre.

This would give you 25 sq of wood per bungalow, what are the dimensions of your bungalows?

As mentioned by another poster, makka is an excellent choice if you can afford it, on your budget I doubt it.

bungalows will be 4x5. 1x4 will be wet area so no wood .. 3x3 inside living . remainder outside area

Thats your floor space.

What about your walls, you did say your walls would also be wood didnt you?

Lets assume walls are 2.5 metres high x the total length of your (4) walls minus lets say 8 sq metres for door and windows.

Lets also assume there is at least one internal wall to seperate the toilet from the rest of the house.

You can do your own maths.

The above may well be wrong and I have misunderstood your intentions.

[sezze]

I agree . + you need footings , beams etc etc . Any kind of hardwood imho is out of the question .

However , i agree also on the other poster about old wood houses , the problem is finding it and you will not find enough for 20 bungalows ( however a bigger house can have a serious amount of it for a couple of 100k ) . A neighbour of me ( Thai and he does wastemanagement ) just bought a very old wooden house for 30k or 50k ( i forgot ) delivered to him . I've not seen the place rebuild yet but the wood appears to be good quality ( it is very old but no signs from ants , termites , rot ).

[toan6082]

1,000,000 for 20 bungalows works out to 50,000 per bungalow.

You may wish to reconsider your choice of wood.

I am in the process of pricing up wood for a new house, the wood will be mai daeng.

Cost for tongued and grooved mai daeng, 6 inches wide, 2 cm thick and 1 metre length works out at just below 2,000 baht per square metre.

This would give you 25 sq of wood per bungalow, what are the dimensions of your bungalows?

As mentioned by another poster, makka is an excellent choice if you can afford it, on your budget I doubt it.

indochine in chang mai has mai sak same dimensions as your maj daeng for 1800 per sq. m.they have a top website

[klikster]

One of the prime areas for (probably illegal?) teak in Thailand is Den Chai, just south of Phrae. Are you after "teak" or "golden teak"? I've been told there are significant differences in characteristics as well as price. If you buy in Den Chai, I would suggest FOB destination. Most legal problems happen during transport.

[toan6082]

One of the prime areas for (probably illegal?) teak in Thailand is Den Chai, just south of Phrae. Are you after "teak" or "golden teak"? I've been told there are significant differences in characteristics as well as price. If you buy in Den Chai, I would suggest FOB destination. Most legal problems happen during transport.

looking into the law side of things at the moment. do you know of what tea money has to be paid in transport, also if i was to buy in laos in bring it back what bribes will i be made to pay, comparing prices with readily avaliable teak in thailand

[klikster]

One of the prime areas for (probably illegal?) teak in Thailand is Den Chai, just south of Phrae. Are you after "teak" or "golden teak"? I've been told there are significant differences in characteristics as well as price. If you buy in Den Chai, I would suggest FOB destination. Most legal problems happen during transport.

looking into the law side of things at the moment. do you know of what tea money has to be paid in transport, also if i was to buy in laos in bring it back what bribes will i be made to pay, comparing prices with readily avaliable teak in thailand

I really don't have any idea .. except perhaps to say, "As much as the possible."

I think if you make the deal FOB (Free On Board) destination, you will get a good idea. I would guess some of these folks have better contacts than you do.

[Rsteeltje]

On the 1001 between CM and Phrao they sell teak trees. Is from government plantations and the sale is legal. Have no clue about the prices. Is about one hour drive out of CM on the left side of the road. Difficult to miss with freshly felled trees lying around.

Cheers

R'steeltje

[Gary A]

Forget buying old houses at a cheap price. This house was across the road from me and was offered to me for 120,000 baht as it was standing. It had to be torn down and everything moved off the property. I didn't want it and had no place to store the wood anyways. A week or so later a local monk bought it for 100,000 baht. A crew of six came and took it down board by board. It was gone two days later.