Jatuporn Wants Bt10M Paid To Families Of 91 Killed During Political Turmoil

[Ricardo]

Red-shirt Leader Demands Justice for Jailed, Killed Comrades

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Meanwhile, Kittipong Kittayarak, Permanent-Secretary for Justice, in his capacity as the Independent Truth and Reconciliation Commission Chairman, said the panel's meeting to discuss compensation for those injured and killed during the clashes between red-shirts and the military in April and May last year have been held many times.

The panel has resolved that the compensation should be higher than that currently stipulated in the law.

-- Tan Network 2011-08-15

It's worth noting that this confirms there is already compensation, which has been paid to at-least some families, by the government. Perhaps Jatuporn should give some credit for this, to the government which paid it, when demanding this new extra payment ? Or perhaps he missed it, being in jail, at the time.

[ozzieman05]

Only in Thailand: a group of demonstrators is paid by Thaksin and his co-horts to attend a rally in the capital city. Then........

Rather than stage a peaceful demonstration as advertised, they begin to erect barricades, effectively strashing and shutting down central Bkk - the same city where a non-smoking farang can be fined 2,000 baht for a cigg butt he didn't drop on the pavement. Gun toting thugs are embedded in the crowd, also paid (directly or indirectly) by Thaksin. Bullets get fired, bombs get lobbed by demonstrators, and (and here's the best part) ......now the demonstrators want to get paid yet more money ...for what? For trashing downtown Bkk for two months, and causing nearly 100 deaths!

Thailand gets yet another 'HUB' accolade. This time, it's 'The hub of paying big money to arsonists.'

Including the soldiers & civilians killed by the Red-Shirts ? ......

Expecting Jatuporn to think logically would be like expecting a fish to build a tractor.

But in the end Khama has its ways

The Government has no money

So it is the people of Thailand including Issan

That will in the end pay for the Red shirts

Funny how thing come back to bite you

[ozzieman05]

Red-shirt Leader Demands Justice for Jailed, Killed Comrades

The acting leader of the red-shirt movement has called on the prime minister to ensure justice for victims who died in last year's protest crackdown and the group's members who are still being jailed.

Chairman of the red-shirt Democratic Alliance against Dictatorship or DAAD, Thida Thawornset noted that members of the red-shirt group have recently joined the governemnt, while almost 100 fellow red-shirt members, who had stood and fought together, are still being held in prison while many were killed and injured.

Thida said Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra must work to the best of her ability to lead her nation, while at the same time, she must not leave her friends behind.

She said that the struggle for justice over deadly protests last year has to be continued after the government solves the country's economic issues.

As for red-shirt leader and Pheu Thai Party list MP Jatuporn Phrompan's demand for the government to pay compensation of up to ten million baht to each family of victims killed in last year's political violence, Thida said the 10-million-baht proposal had been floated a long time before Pheu Thai won the July 3 election.

She noted that the amount of compensation can be adjusted according to the actual loss.

Further discussion for the compensation's details is needed.

Meanwhile, Kittipong Kittayarak, Permanent-Secretary for Justice, in his capacity as the Independent Truth and Reconciliation Commission Chairman, said the panel's meeting to discuss compensation for those injured and killed during the clashes between red-shirts and the military in April and May last year have been held many times.

The panel has resolved that the compensation should be higher than that currently stipulated in the law.

-- Tan Network 2011-08-15

The law states the maximun one can claimed if you are killed in a motor car accident

But dieing has its price structure now

as we see the reds are claining way above the value for a car accident

[Buchholz]

I suppose it would be churlish to ask Jatuporn if he lost any family members during the "troubles."

He probably wouldn't know even if they did.

He's disowned them...

Mr Jatuporn's mother said she had tried to phone her son, but he never answered or called her back.

From TOC: http://www.thailandoutlook.tv/toc/ViewData...?DataID=1013675

UPDATE : 10 April 2009

The Mother of a red shirt core leader has asked her son to stop campaigning against the monarchy

90-year-old Nuam Prompan, mother of Jatuporn Prompan, pleaded with her son to stop what he is doing, saying it is inappropriate and disrespectful. She also expressed interest in meeting her son directly to offer her advice, but added that she has not seen her son for five or six years and Jatuporn has not taken her phone calls during this time.

Aree Parndaeng, Jatuporn's elder sister, confirmed her mother's remarks, saying Jatupron has not taken any phone calls from Nuam, despite her suffering from health problems.

end quote

Mum tells UDD leader: Stop it

The elderly mother of United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD) leader and opposition Puea Thai MP Jatuporn Prompan has told him to stop damaging the country.

Mrs Nuam said her son's activities made her feel uncomfortable because she feared he was causing harm to the country.

[Colin Yai]

Pheu Thai Party must "keep its word" because the party promised, after the crackdown, to give families of red-shirt protesters who died in the turmoil Bt10 million each.

And appropriately, Thaksin = PTP, and thus 10 million per each of his dead supporters and who gave their lives so that he can get his other money back and his power over the country restored is easily affordable from his own private accounts. It's the least he can do to show his appreciation for their sacrificing themselves for him.

Besides, he'll easily recoup it with just a few corrupt government deals in the future.

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Only 3 words into your reply and theres that dirty word 'Thaksin' , dont you get bored because I do. Compo for reds , yellows, officials nothing mentioned about Thaksin. Dems lost their credibility and the election because all their policy where either slagging Thaksin or trying to copy him. Bit like you really.

Bored backtonormal?,of course if reading or writing the truth bores you ,you can always vacate these boards ,and join another forum who like to kiss Thaksins butt big time, may I suggest one that begins with R and ends with Which I have just left forever, its quite popular as they have got all of 7 active posters ,I was the odd man out , I now feel at home in TV were the vast majority write it as it really is. Edited August 15, 2011 by Colin Yai

[random]

Including the soldiers & civilians killed by the Red-Shirts ?

And perhaps the government should also reimburse the UDD itself for the cost of their protest ?

And shouldn't the government pay for the pig's-blood thrown at peoples' gates & walls ? Or will the people thus attacked be invoiced by the UDD ?

Why should the UDD's 'contributors overseas' not get their donations back too ?

And the travelling-expenses for the journalists & farang-supporters ?

The list is endless ...

Can't forget this one on the list...

Was he killed?

just another attempt by you to derail a thread with irrelevance, it is easy to post pictures that have nothing to do with the topic in question, it solves nothing, it proves nothing, and to be fair it makes you look a little silly.

[Buchholz]

Including the soldiers & civilians killed by the Red-Shirts ?

And perhaps the government should also reimburse the UDD itself for the cost of their protest ?

And shouldn't the government pay for the pig's-blood thrown at peoples' gates & walls ? Or will the people thus attacked be invoiced by the UDD ?

Why should the UDD's 'contributors overseas' not get their donations back too ?

And the travelling-expenses for the journalists & farang-supporters ?

The list is endless ...

Can't forget this one on the list...

Was he killed?

No, he falls into the category of those also deserving compensation that was mentioned in the post I replied to.

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Edited August 15, 2011 by Buchholz

[random]

Including the soldiers & civilians killed by the Red-Shirts ?

And perhaps the government should also reimburse the UDD itself for the cost of their protest ?

And shouldn't the government pay for the pig's-blood thrown at peoples' gates & walls ? Or will the people thus attacked be invoiced by the UDD ?

Why should the UDD's 'contributors overseas' not get their donations back too ?

And the travelling-expenses for the journalists & farang-supporters ?

The list is endless ...

Can't forget this one on the list...

Was he killed?

No, he falls into the category of those also deserving compensation that was mentioned in the post I replied to.

.

So you were both off topic, and don't edit my posts, there's a good chap.

[KhunBJ]

Everybody should be compensated according to the Thai laws and people involved on both sides should be judged by the Court according to the law, nobody should get away from killing anyone ... former DP Suttep insist that he did not order any soldiers to shoot and kill ... so they will have to be dealt with by the Law as well .. wearing a uniform is a not a license to kill.

Unfortunately more than a year has passed without anything happening, hopefully evidence is still available although that might be wishful thinking.

Just because the army were not ordered to kill people, doesn't mean they broke the law. In a lot of cases, they would have been well within their rights to shoot back at people shooting at them and attacking them.

Absolutely correct, each case should be dealt with separately by the Thai Court.

[KhunBJ]

Everybody should be compensated according to the Thai laws and people involved on both sides should be judged by the Court according to the law, nobody should get away from killing anyone ... former DP Suttep insist that he did not order any soldiers to shoot and kill ... so they will have to be dealt with by the Law as well .. wearing a uniform is a not a license to kill.

Unfortunately more than a year has passed without anything happening, hopefully evidence is still available although that might be wishful thinking.

"....... wearing a uniform is a not a license to kill." Apparently wearing a red or black shirt was.

I find it interesting that a figure of B10,000,000 was picked by Jatuporn as it represents around 100 years wages @ B300/day, Perhaps he wants everybody to get the same payment that he received.

If he had announced at the time, it could have boosted the red shirt attendance manifold. Every family in Isaan would have sent their grannie.

10 Million is probably a lucky number, the previous Government estimated a life was worth 400.000 and I would not be surprised if the Court if there was ever a ruling , would come out with an even smaller amount ... A life in LoS is not worth much.

[Buchholz]

Can't forget this one on the list...

Was he killed?

No, he falls into the category of those also deserving compensation that was mentioned in the post I replied to.

.

So you were both off topic

I think it's fair to discuss those that should be compensated. A number of other posts raise the issue as well.

[Ricardo]

Was he killed?

No, he falls into the category of those also deserving compensation that was mentioned in the post I replied to.

.

So you were both off topic, and don't edit my posts, there's a good chap.

I disagree, the thread is about people who Jatuporn wants extra-ordinary compensation to be paid to, out of public funds. It is therefore on-topic to discuss who, and what, might be covered by such compensation. Which is why I did it.

Edited August 15, 2011 by Ricardo

[phiphidon]

I think it's fair to discuss those that should be compensated. A number of other posts raise the issue as well.

Well it would be fair to discuss those that should be compensated if the OP Subject Matter was entitled

" A random list of people I personally think should be compensated as a result of the political turmoil 2010 ".

However, the topic is

Jaturporn wants Bt10M Paid to Families Of 91 Killed during Political Turmoil

Now, that's a fairly specific topic heading and shouldn't be too hard to not stray from, but well done, you managed to, along with a number of other posters, as you helpfully point out.

[ramrod711]

I would like Jatuporn to dissapear from the face of the earth and for it to be against the law for anyone to mention his name. unfortunately we can't all get what we want.

[ballpoint]

Well it would be fair to discuss those that should be compensated if the OP Subject Matter was entitled

" A random list of people I personally think should be compensated as a result of the political turmoil 2010 ".

However, the topic is

Jaturporn wants Bt10M Paid to Families Of 91 Killed during Political Turmoil

Now, that's a fairly specific topic heading and shouldn't be too hard to not stray from, but well done, you managed to, along with a number of other posters, as you helpfully point out.

I suggest you read the OP before wading in with your snide hypocritical attacks. It clearly introduces the topic of paying compensation to all those affected:

Justice Ministry permanent secretary Kittipong Kittayarak called on the government to pay people injured or killed during the red-shirt crisis more than the maximum Bt200,000 limited by the law because the drama was a special incident. But he refused to say if families should get Bt10 million as Jatuporn demanded.

Adul Khieuboriboon, chairperson of the relatives committee of the May 1992 incident, said he agreed in principle for the government to compensate persons affected by all political crackdowns.

Caretaker leader of the United Front Democracy against Dictatorship Thida Tawornset has urged the new government to provide justice by releasing red shirts in prison pending trial.

[KKvampire]

Thailand, Law.Justice Lunatics are well in control of this Country Thailand But the Masses never care

[tlansford]

Pheu Thai Party must "keep its word" because the party promised, after the crackdown, to give families of red-shirt protesters who died in the turmoil Bt10 million each.

And appropriately, Thaksin = PTP, and thus 10 million per each of his dead supporters and who gave their lives so that he can get his other money back and his power over the country restored is easily affordable from his own private accounts. It's the least he can do to show his appreciation for their sacrificing themselves for him.

Besides, he'll easily recoup it with just a few corrupt government deals in the future.

.

Good post ,Of Course Buchholz you are 110% correct in your submission, Thaksin and the red shirts go together like Strawberry's and cream if it was not for him and his money the Reds would not be in existence in the first place ,it is he and he alone who should shoulder the responsibility financial or other wise, and for Jatuporn to expect the "blood money" should come out of the public coffers is total BS of the very highest order , after all the reds who sacrificed their lives did so IMHO on Jatuporns orders ,who duly received his from Thaksin , anyone believing any different should go and get a reality check.

The "red shirts" began as many different anti-coup groups, one of the original groups being the "19 September Network against the Coup". This group consist mostly of Thaskin opponents, and it's former leader, Sombat Boonngamanong (an NGO activist) created the "Thai Say No" group against the military-sponsored constitutional referendum which was the first group to take on the red color within the various opposition groups.

Not only do the Red Shirts consist partially of Thaskin opponents, but even their signature color comes originally from one of such groups.

The "red shirts" continue to this day to function as a diverse set of groups operating under one umbrella group, the UDD. The groups formed as anti-coup groups mixing Thaskin supporters and Thaskin opponents.

[tlansford]

Now we understand that 11 billion tax refund, it is to fund compensation for the deceased Thaksin footsoldiers,. Indeed we have greatly underestimated the genorosity of Brother No 1 and the compassion he feels for those who gave their all to help him. Willing to donate from his personal purse to help those in need as promised in the election campaign by the P.T.P.

Already the P.T.P. campaign promise of " you will all be rich in 6 months is bearing fruit." To think that we have doubted the sincerity of Thaksin and Jatuporn and the P.T.P.

However there does seem to be a . "fly in the ointment " in the guise of one Thida Tawornset, who seems to be forgetting the principles of her political beliefs and movement.

Asked if relatives of people killed last year should get Bt10 million each in compensation, Thida said the figure could be adjusted according to each family's actual losses. The red shirts would meet again to decide on the figure.

The above comment leads to speculation that there are ranks of eliteness within the Red Shirt movement and they are not all equal even in death?

How nice to be able to afford ones principles.

Hypocrites to the core.

You speculate on what someone might be thinking, and then based on your speculation derived from your own thoughts, pronounce those people as hypocrites, ...

interesting logic

[rubl]

The "red shirts" began as many different anti-coup groups, one of the original groups being the "19 September Network against the Coup". This group consist mostly of Thaskin opponents, and it's former leader, Sombat Boonngamanong (an NGO activist) created the "Thai Say No" group against the military-sponsored constitutional referendum which was the first group to take on the red color within the various opposition groups.

Not only do the Red Shirts consist partially of Thaskin opponents, but even their signature color comes originally from one of such groups.

The "red shirts" continue to this day to function as a diverse set of groups operating under one umbrella group, the UDD. The groups formed as anti-coup groups mixing Thaskin supporters and Thaskin opponents.

I don't think it's correct to call the UDD an 'umbrella' group. It seems much more the possibly largest faction of red-shirt and both the loudest and the most influential. With UDD leaders re-born as Pheu Thai MPs that may change. For transparency in politics a certain distance between Pheu Thai and UDD would be good. I would even like to suggest the Pheu Thai MP's still being UDD leader step down as UDD leader, although remaining as member. IMHO

[phiphidon]

I suggest you read the OP before wading in with your snide hypocritical attacks. It clearly introduces the topic of paying compensation to all those affected:

Justice Ministry permanent secretary Kittipong Kittayarak called on the government to pay people injured or killed during the red-shirt crisis more than the maximum Bt200,000 limited by the law because the drama was a special incident. But he refused to say if families should get Bt10 million as Jatuporn demanded.

Adul Khieuboriboon, chairperson of the relatives committee of the May 1992 incident, said he agreed in principle for the government to compensate persons affected by all political crackdowns.

Caretaker leader of the United Front Democracy against Dictatorship Thida Tawornset has urged the new government to provide justice by releasing red shirts in prison pending trial.

Can I take it your personal attack is the result of me not thinking the same way as you, or do you normally insult people if you disagree with them?

Back to your "argument" - you say that the topic is about paying compensation to all those affected? I suggest you read it again. Even your quoted examples refer to the killed and injured................

Not

"And perhaps the government should also reimburse the UDD itself for the cost of their protest ?

And shouldn't the government pay for the pig's-blood thrown at peoples' gates & walls ? Or will the people thus attacked be invoiced by the UDD ?

Why should the UDD's 'contributors overseas' not get their donations back too ?

And the travelling-expenses for the journalists & farang-supporters ?

The list is endless"

as suggested by Ricardo,

or the Australian (picture of course courtesy of Buccholz),

or the "people (who) weren't able to finish their looting before the flames got too strong, clearly in need of compensation" added by DP25,

or "the war on drugs? Tak Bai? Moruya

Ricardo was right, the list is endless, but it's off topic and adds exactly zero to the debate about the OP, but what do I know, I'm just a snide hypocrite who didn't read the OP.....................

[ballpoint]

Can I take it your personal attack is the result of me not thinking the same way as you, or do you normally insult people if you disagree with them?

Back to your "argument" - you say that the topic is about paying compensation to all those affected? I suggest you read it again. Even your quoted examples refer to the killed and injured................

Bit of a change in tune now, When you attacked Bucholz it was

Jaturporn wants Bt10M Paid to Families Of 91 Killed during Political Turmoil

Now, that's a fairly specific topic heading and shouldn't be too hard to not stray from, but well done, you managed to, along with a number of other posters, as you helpfully point out.

Now you've expanded it to "killed and injured"

Besides which...

Adul Khieuboriboon, chairperson of the relatives committee of the May 1992 incident, said he agreed in principle for the government to compensate persons affected by all political crackdowns.

Caretaker leader of the United Front Democracy against Dictatorship Thida Tawornset has urged the new government to provide justice by releasing red shirts in prison pending trial.

Where in these two quotes does it say killed and injured? Or are you starting another tin foil conspiracy and trying to tell us the red shirts in prison are dead? You made an attack on a number of posters in this thread. I pointed out you are wrong, the snideness of your post, and the shear hypocrisy of it given your history of sidetracking threads exposing red wrongdoings. If that be a personal attack and you are insulted by the truth then so be it.

[fxe1200]

Does the compensation extend to the war on drugs? Tak Bai?

The compensations for the victims of the war on drags is still due. On September 25th it will be six years after the killing of 85 demonstrators in Tak Bai. I have not heard, if their families received any compensation. So, Jaturporn, do not forget those.

Anyhow I will fly the flag of Thailand at half-mast on the 25th of September.

[Ricardo]

Can I take it your personal attack is the result of me not thinking the same way as you, or do you normally insult people if you disagree with them?

Back to your "argument" - you say that the topic is about paying compensation to all those affected? I suggest you read it again. Even your quoted examples refer to the killed and injured................

Not

"And perhaps the government should also reimburse the UDD itself for the cost of their protest ?

And shouldn't the government pay for the pig's-blood thrown at peoples' gates & walls ? Or will the people thus attacked be invoiced by the UDD ?

Why should the UDD's 'contributors overseas' not get their donations back too ?

And the travelling-expenses for the journalists & farang-supporters ?

The list is endless"

as suggested by Ricardo,

or the Australian (picture of course courtesy of Buccholz),

or the "people (who) weren't able to finish their looting before the flames got too strong, clearly in need of compensation" added by DP25,

or "the war on drugs? Tak Bai? Moruya

Ricardo was right, the list is endless, but it's off topic and adds exactly zero to the debate about the OP, but what do I know, I'm just a snide hypocrite who didn't read the OP.....................

I note that you've edited-out part of my post

Including the soldiers & civilians killed by the Red-Shirts?

presumably because that doesn't support your case ?

The point I was making was that there are a range of UDD activities, for which compensation might be made, and the question for Jatuporn is 'How far down the list do you go ?', or 'What is reasonable ... What is absurd ?'. That you may agree (or why edit it out ?) that the soldiers & civilians killed might reasonably be covered by his demand, shows where you yourself might draw that line, doesn't it ?

So my post was perhaps partly on-topic after-all, I would still feel, and I personally would/did not call you "just a snide hypocrite", we just have slightly-different opinions, which is fine by me !

[phiphidon]

Can I take it your personal attack is the result of me not thinking the same way as you, or do you normally insult people if you disagree with them?

Back to your "argument" - you say that the topic is about paying compensation to all those affected? I suggest you read it again. Even your quoted examples refer to the killed and injured................

Bit of a change in tune now, When you attacked Bucholz it was

Jaturporn wants Bt10M Paid to Families Of 91 Killed during Political Turmoil

Now, that's a fairly specific topic heading and shouldn't be too hard to not stray from, but well done, you managed to, along with a number of other posters, as you helpfully point out.

Now you've expanded it to "killed and injured"

Besides which...

Adul Khieuboriboon, chairperson of the relatives committee of the May 1992 incident, said he agreed in principle for the government to compensate persons affected by all political crackdowns.

Caretaker leader of the United Front Democracy against Dictatorship Thida Tawornset has urged the new government to provide justice by releasing red shirts in prison pending trial.

Where in these two quotes does it say killed and injured? Or are you starting another tin foil conspiracy and trying to tell us the red shirts in prison are dead? You made an attack on a number of posters in this thread. I pointed out you are wrong, the snideness of your post, and the shear hypocrisy of it given your history of sidetracking threads exposing red wrongdoings. If that be a personal attack and you are insulted by the truth then so be it.

The quotes in the OP refer to the "killed and injured". Following that pattern and knowledge of the "relatives committee of the May 1992 Incident" it is a very fair assumption that the committee are also referring to the "killed and injured".

Your last quote is nothing whatsoever to do with the first subject but is part of the usual The Nation "style" of leading with one story and tacking another story on the end. Study the Nations articles over a period of time and you will detect a pattern.

So I stick by my original post and my statement that the posters quotes I mentioned are nothing to do with the OP Title. You can either agree with this explanation or not. Nothing personal.............

[OzMick]

Everybody should be compensated according to the Thai laws and people involved on both sides should be judged by the Court according to the law, nobody should get away from killing anyone ... former DP Suttep insist that he did not order any soldiers to shoot and kill ... so they will have to be dealt with by the Law as well .. wearing a uniform is a not a license to kill.

Unfortunately more than a year has passed without anything happening, hopefully evidence is still available although that might be wishful thinking.

"....... wearing a uniform is a not a license to kill." Apparently wearing a red or black shirt was.

I find it interesting that a figure of B10,000,000 was picked by Jatuporn as it represents around 100 years wages @ B300/day, Perhaps he wants everybody to get the same payment that he received.

If he had announced at the time, it could have boosted the red shirt attendance manifold. Every family in Isaan would have sent their grannie.

10 Million is probably a lucky number, the previous Government estimated a life was worth 400.000 and I would not be surprised if the Court if there was ever a ruling , would come out with an even smaller amount ... A life in LoS is not worth much.

A friend was killed when an elderly lady in a Mercedes pulled out in front of him. His thai wife settled for B40,000 - I rated him as worth more than that.

[phiphidon]

Can I take it your personal attack is the result of me not thinking the same way as you, or do you normally insult people if you disagree with them?

Back to your "argument" - you say that the topic is about paying compensation to all those affected? I suggest you read it again. Even your quoted examples refer to the killed and injured................

Not

"And perhaps the government should also reimburse the UDD itself for the cost of their protest ?

And shouldn't the government pay for the pig's-blood thrown at peoples' gates & walls ? Or will the people thus attacked be invoiced by the UDD ?

Why should the UDD's 'contributors overseas' not get their donations back too ?

And the travelling-expenses for the journalists & farang-supporters ?

The list is endless"

as suggested by Ricardo,

or the Australian (picture of course courtesy of Buccholz),

or the "people (who) weren't able to finish their looting before the flames got too strong, clearly in need of compensation" added by DP25,

or "the war on drugs? Tak Bai? Moruya

Ricardo was right, the list is endless, but it's off topic and adds exactly zero to the debate about the OP, but what do I know, I'm just a snide hypocrite who didn't read the OP.....................

I note that you've edited-out part of my post

Including the soldiers & civilians killed by the Red-Shirts?

presumably because that doesn't support your case ?

The point I was making was that there are a range of UDD activities, for which compensation might be made, and the question for Jatuporn is 'How far down the list do you go ?', or 'What is reasonable ... What is absurd ?'. That you may agree (or why edit it out ?) that the soldiers & civilians killed might reasonably be covered by his demand, shows where you yourself might draw that line, doesn't it ?

So my post was perhaps partly on-topic after-all, I would still feel, and I personally would/did not call you "just a snide hypocrite", we just have slightly-different opinions, which is fine by me !

Please see my post #55 reply to ballpoint which explains my first reply about off topic subjects.

You're right I did edit out "including soldiers and civilians killed by the red shirts" (agreeing they should be considered for compensation, why shouldn't they be - they are part of the 91 mentioned ) because I agree with that part of your statement - I will add the caveat that one would have to prove that a red shirt or more had killed soldiers & civilians and they rightly should be punished for those actions if that is the case. I do not have a problem with that.

I can confirm for the record that it was only ballpoint who called me a snide hypocrite but if any others out there feel the need, go ahead, fill your boots .

[ballpoint]

I can confirm for the record that it was only ballpoint who called me a snide hypocrite but if any others out there feel the need, go ahead, fill your boots .

No, I called your post snide hypocrisy. If you really can't understand the difference between crticism of a post and an attack on a poster then that's hardly any fault of mine.

[FOODLOVER]

Including the soldiers & civilians killed by the Red-Shirts ?

And perhaps the government should also reimburse the UDD itself for the cost of their protest ?

And shouldn't the government pay for the pig's-blood thrown at peoples' gates & walls ? Or will the people thus attacked be invoiced by the UDD ?

Why should the UDD's 'contributors overseas' not get their donations back too ?

And the travelling-expenses for the journalists & farang-supporters ?

The list is endless ...

Can't forget this one on the list...

Was he killed?

just another attempt by you to derail a thread with irrelevance, it is easy to post pictures that have nothing to do with the topic in question, it solves nothing, it proves nothing, and to be fair it makes you look a little silly.

His shoes don't match and the hip hop chain is supposed to go around the neck!

[JohnAllan]

So Jatuporn is back and whining - is that the right word?

All of a sudden, the government - as in the taxpayers, many of whom were victims of Jatuporn's machinations - are now expected to cough up some 910,000,000 Baht in compensation for families of those killed in the turmoil initiated and promoted by Jatuporn and his ilk. And Jatuporn's crocodile tears for his heroes and heroines ring hollow, as he hid behind his parliamentary immunity for months.

As the would-be messiah who led - no, egged on - these people, and put their lives, as well as those of other protestors, media reporters, bystanders and soldiers in the firing line, how much do you intend to contribute, Jatuporn? Since the amount is likely to range from nil to risible, what do you propose that you DO do instead, to make amends for your part in the deaths and injuries?

Edited August 15, 2011 by JohnAllan

[OzMick]

Does the compensation extend to the war on drugs? Tak Bai?

The compensations for the victims of the war on drags is still due. On September 25th it will be six years after the killing of 85 demonstrators in Tak Bai. I have not heard, if their families received any compensation. So, Jaturporn, do not forget those.

Anyhow I will fly the flag of Thailand at half-mast on the 25th of September.

I'd suggest that you fly it upside down, but nobody would notice.