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Attorney-General: Interpol Has Right to Withdraw Arrest Warrant on Thaksin

The Office of the Attorney General has pointed out that the International Criminal Police Organization, or Interpol, has the right to revoke the arrest warrant for former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra for cases that are not currently being processed in the Thai court.

Office of the Attorney Spokesperson Tanapit Moonpruek commented on the recent withdrawal of the arrest warrant for former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra by the International Criminal Police Organization, or Interpol, the organization facilitating international police cooperation and of which Thailand is also member, saying that they have the right take such action.

Tanapit said that even though the Thai court has issued a number of arrest warrants for Thaksin, including one on charges of terrorism, Interpol can refuse to cooperate.

Interpol have been reluctant to assist Thai police in capturing Thaksin, despite having learned that Thaksin has traveled to Germany and Dubai, because they are weary that the charges may be politically motivated.

The Office of the Attorney General pointed out that regardless of Interpol's arrest warrant withdrawal, all the criminal charges against Thaksin still stand and Thai authorities will continue to try to bring the ex-premier back to stand trial.

About the reinstatement of Thaksin's diplomatic passport, Thanapit said that the matter is under the the Foreign Ministry's jurisdiction and has nothing to do with the Office of the Attorney General or the court.

-- Tan Network 2011-08-15

[KhunBJ]

Since Interpol never had an arrest warrant out for Thaksin then how can it be withdrawn ?

[Buchholz]

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and now.... yet another department of the new government that has "nothing to do with Thaksin" has something to do with Thaksin.

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Edited August 15, 2011 by Buchholz

[mca]

Interpol have been reluctant to assist Thai police in capturing Thaksin, despite having learned that Thaksin has traveled to Germany and Dubai, because they are weary that the charges may be politically motivated.

Weary? Bored shitless more like. Oh, it's a typo. My mistake.

[samurai]

Since Interpol never had an arrest warrant out for Thaksin then how can it be withdrawn ?

Probably a case of "lost in translation".

The spokesman tried to explain it. Not everyone gets it. For some people its hard to understand that Interpol doesn't go after Thaksin and arrest the "terrorist".

EX-Foreign Minister Kasit had some dreams about it that interpol would do it, but these silly days are over now.

[KhunBJ]

Since Interpol never had an arrest warrant out for Thaksin then how can it be withdrawn ?

Probably a case of "lost in translation".

The spokesman tried to explain it. Not everyone gets it. For some people its hard to understand that Interpol doesn't go after Thaksin and arrest the "terrorist".

EX-Foreign Minister Kasit had some dreams about it that interpol would do it, but these silly days are over now.

Yes, maybe lost in translation .. ;-)

[Humphrey Bear]

Interpol have nothing to do with the issuance or withdrawal / cancellation of an arrest warrant.

If the authorities of the issuing country insist on the warrant being executed, then Interpol will facilitate the execution, with the member country in whose juristriction the accused is then residing.

If there is no push from the country of issuance, then Interpol will put everything on a back burner.

The Attorney General obviously doesn't know his arse from his elbow.

Edited August 15, 2011 by Humphrey Bear

[REM]

Interpol have nothing to do with the issuance or withdrawal / cancellation of an arrest warrant.

If the authorities of the issuing country insist on the warrant being executed, then Interpol will facilitate the execution, with the member country in whose juristriction the accused is then residing.

If there is no push from the country of issuance, then Interpol will put everything on a back burner.

The Attorney General obviously doesn't know his arse from his elbow.

But this is what the educated know, and what the uneducated do not. Since Thai's don't concern themselves with things outside of their city/village, this will become what they know. The media is vomiting propaganda now, and I think T. Shinawatra will try for his December move. Two weeks and their talking new diplomatic passport, no arrest warrant, refunding the 11 billion baht back to the family.

If only they could do a good thing for someone not in their family, like the average Thai who doesn't sell their soul....

[YellowFeverCAD]

If only they could do a good thing for someone not in their family, like the average Thai who doesn't sell their soul....

Clearly not part of their mandate.

[Felt 35]

If only they could do a good thing for someone not in their family, like the average Thai who doesn't sell their soul....

Clearly not part of their mandate.

[hammered]

Interpol have nothing to do with the issuance or withdrawal / cancellation of an arrest warrant.

If the authorities of the issuing country insist on the warrant being executed, then Interpol will facilitate the execution, with the member country in whose juristriction the accused is then residing.

If there is no push from the country of issuance, then Interpol will put everything on a back burner.

The Attorney General obviously doesn't know his arse from his elbow.

And the last lot didnt try too hard. They were more interested in making sure he couldnt get into fancy places than making an attempt to actually request extradition.

And this lot are for obvious reasons not going to request extradition. But additionally they are going to stop the "get him banned" offensive. Thaksin is now free to go where he wants as long as not in breach of rules etc of the host country. There will no longer be Thai diplomatic pressure making him a hot potato. That is going to drive the anti-Thaksinistas insane even though their lot never wanted to really try that extradition thing

In the meantime there are far more important issues for country and people.

[KhunBJ]

Interpol have nothing to do with the issuance or withdrawal / cancellation of an arrest warrant.

If the authorities of the issuing country insist on the warrant being executed, then Interpol will facilitate the execution, with the member country in whose juristriction the accused is then residing.

If there is no push from the country of issuance, then Interpol will put everything on a back burner.

The Attorney General obviously doesn't know his arse from his elbow.

Agree, Interpol functions as an administrative liaison between the law-enforcement agencies of the member countries, providing communications and database assistance, it does not issue any arrest warrant and cannot withdraw them and Interpol does not arrest people ...at least the journalist or maybe tea boy that wrote this "news" should have known that.

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PM Denies Role in Thaksin Case

The prime minister says she has not ordered arrangement for the international police to scrap arrest warrant against her convicted brother Thaksin Shinawatra.

Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra said she has not sought coordination with the Interpol over the withdrawal of the arrest warrant against her brother Thaksin Shinawatra.

Yingluck said she only asked for information about the issue from the Foreign Ministry while maintaining her position as prime minister cannot bring about easier revocation of the warrant, given the decision on the matter must rest with the rule of law.

As to an an opinion poll suggesting the public's disappointment with the appointment of Surapong Towichakchaikul as foreign minister, Yingluck stated he should be given some time to prove himself while his lack of experience in foreign affairs can be substituted by advices from civil servants.

Meanwhile, Democrat Party leader AbhisitVejjajiva said he has no idea why the Japanese government granted permission for Thaksin's entry despite him still being a wanted convict in Thailand.

Abhisit suggested state officials, particularly the foreign minister who recently met the Japanese ambassador over Thakin's entry, be investigated if they have worked in favor of the former premier.

He said the matter should be called into question as the public still has not benefited from the new government's performance yet, but Thaksin has.

-- Tan Network 2011-08-15

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Govt Urged to Clarify Thaksin Case

The People's Alliance for Democracy's key leader presses the new government to clarify why the international police cancelled former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra's arrest warrant.

He insists that the group will mobilize if the government pushes for amnesty for the former PM.

Core leader of the People's Alliance for Democracy, or PAD, Sondhi Limthongkul said he is not surprised by the fact that the Japanese government approved a visa for ousted PM Thaksin Shinawatra to visit Japan, as well as the fact that the Interpol has cancelled his pending arrest warrant.

He demanded the new government clarify these two issues.

He insisted the PAD will take to the streets if the government makes an effort to amend the Constitution's Article 29 to issue an amnesty for the current PM's brother Thaksin.

He said that his group will be monitoring the government closely.

Sondhi also expressed his view that the Pheu Thai-led government under Yingluck Shinawatra is largely influenced by the style of the Thai Rak Thai-led administration.

He expected the new government will most likely move fast with its policies but eventually will engage in corrupt activities.

-- Tan Network 2011-08-15

[hammered]

It is amazing looking at a variety of media today. We have rivers overflowing their banks and threatening the homes and livelihoods of thousands of people and funds to assist them running out. We have the finance head honcho saying all the PTP promises will be fulfilled within 6 months and yet the media is stressing stories about Thaksin going to Japan and the leader of the opposition joins in. Surely the other things are bigger news and also of more importance to politicians. They certainly are to ordinary people

[webfact]

Ex-PM Thaksin was never on Interpol's wanted list, according to Foreign Minister Surapong /via@Biz_TheNation

[samurai]

Interpol have nothing to do with the issuance or withdrawal / cancellation of an arrest warrant.

If the authorities of the issuing country insist on the warrant being executed, then Interpol will facilitate the execution, with the member country in whose juristriction the accused is then residing.

If there is no push from the country of issuance, then Interpol will put everything on a back burner.

The Attorney General obviously doesn't know his arse from his elbow.

And the last lot didnt try too hard. They were more interested in making sure he couldnt get into fancy places than making an attempt to actually request extradition.

And this lot are for obvious reasons not going to request extradition. But additionally they are going to stop the "get him banned" offensive. Thaksin is now free to go where he wants as long as not in breach of rules etc of the host country. There will no longer be Thai diplomatic pressure making him a hot potato. That is going to drive the anti-Thaksinistas insane even though their lot never wanted to really try that extradition thing

In the meantime there are far more important issues for country and people.

Even if they would try hard it's a politically motivated issue for Interpol, that means Interpol will not act or help to arrest Thaksin. That is pretty clear. Every attempt to get Interpol involved will fail and get rejected by Interpol.

Its not because the Thai authorities are to lackadaisical.

For the last lot it was a good headline maker " We will ask Interpol to get Thaksin". Pure propaganda, demonizing Thaksin, trying to imply that Interpol would hunt Thaksin the terrorists.

But nada. Now its difficult to explain to the public or just the journalists at TAN why Interpol doesn't go after Thaksin. And while giving the explanation to save the face of everyone involved.

I think the Attorney General or the spokesman know how it works (or that it will not work), its the journalist who get something mixed up and than there is the translation issue.

The "get him banned" offensive - i think the foreign countries are relieved now that Kasit will not bother them anymore and make things complicated. Its now clear that those "bans" in Germany and Japan were based on annoying pressure by the previous government and in all politeness and diplomatique the foreign countries keep quiet. That Thaksin is the so called convict and 'fugitive from justice' was never an issue for them.

Thaksin banned there and there were the "success messages" of the previous goverment. Kasit and Abhisit loved to announce that "Thaksin will get banned in XY" or come up with some Interpol stories.

The loser must feel really bad now, their delusion bubble burst.

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Interpol has not revoked 'wanted notice' for fugitive ex-PM Thaksin; it never issued an alert in the first place: Thai foreign ministry /MCOT

[rubl]

It is amazing looking at a variety of media today. We have rivers overflowing their banks and threatening the homes and livelihoods of thousands of people and funds to assist them running out. We have the finance head honcho saying all the PTP promises will be fulfilled within 6 months and yet the media is stressing stories about Thaksin going to Japan and the leader of the opposition joins in. Surely the other things are bigger news and also of more importance to politicians. They certainly are to ordinary people

It's not just the media stressing k. Thaksin, the government, the PM, Pheu Thai and other assorted 'knowledgable' people keep mentioning him. Contradicting each other as well (as usual). To conclude the new government's activities for the first week:

1. k. Thaksin

2. see 1.

If the government's would only start governing, start caring for country and it's people, they could slowly raise the issue of k. Thaksin later on. As it is now they are no better than the proxy governments under the late k. Samak and under k. Somchai. "One man, one party, no compromise"

Now Thaksin, k. Thaksin, show us the sign

Your children have waited to see

The morning will come when the world is mine

Tomorrow belongs

Tomorrow belongs

Tomorrow belongs to you!

Edited August 15, 2011 by rubl

[JAG]

Steady on Rubl. I appreciate you don't like them, but think about what is implied by associating them with what is generally regarded as a youth anthem for the Third Reich!

[hammered]

It is amazing looking at a variety of media today. We have rivers overflowing their banks and threatening the homes and livelihoods of thousands of people and funds to assist them running out. We have the finance head honcho saying all the PTP promises will be fulfilled within 6 months and yet the media is stressing stories about Thaksin going to Japan and the leader of the opposition joins in. Surely the other things are bigger news and also of more importance to politicians. They certainly are to ordinary people

It's not just the media stressing k. Thaksin, the government, the PM, Pheu Thai and other assorted 'knowledgable' people keep mentioning him. Contradicting each other as well (as usual). To conclude the new government's activities for the first week:

1. k. Thaksin

2. see 1.

If the government's would only start governing, start caring for country and it's people, they could slowly raise the issue of k. Thaksin later on. As it is now they are no better than the proxy governments under the late k. Samak and under k. Somchai. "One man, one party, no compromise"

Now Thaksin, k. Thaksin, show us the sign

Your children have waited to see

The morning will come when the world is mine

Tomorrow belongs

Tomorrow belongs

Tomorrow belongs to you!

Actually if you look carefully it is the media who are asking the PM and government about Thaksin and to be fair the opposition are then reacting to this. It is media driven, but is ridiculous in its intensity when far far more important things are going on, and in the final analysis it just makes support for the man stronger. It must be verging on a pathological obsession. The meme they are trying to create is backfiring as it always has and does.

[samurai]

Abhisit suggested state officials, particularly the foreign minister who recently met the Japanese ambassador over Thakin's entry, be investigated if they have worked in favor of the former premier.

He said the matter should be called into question as the public still has not benefited from the new government's performance yet, but Thaksin has.

-- Tan Network 2011-08-15

The credit for this don't belongs to the new government. Its just because Abhisit isn't in office anymore. The new government does nothing, they don't put Japan under pressure and demand to "ban" him. A

And with this Thaksin benefits, but Thailand too and Japan. Both countries enjoy now are more relaxed diplomatic relationship.

[Pib]

These are all baby steps in clearing the road of bumps and roadblocks for Thaksin's eventual return to Thailand. And he needs to get back soon as running a government via telecommuting has its limitations.

[samurai]

These are all baby steps in clearing the road of bumps and roadblocks for Thaksin's eventual return to Thailand. And he needs to get back soon as running a government via telecommuting has its limitations.

What steps?

There was never an Interpol arrest warrent on Thaksin nor will be there one. Not on these current charges.

If you think otherwise you failed for a propaganda hoax, staged during the time of the Abhisit government that made people belief Interpol would go after Thaksin.

[metisdead]

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[geriatrickid]

Interpol have nothing to do with the issuance or withdrawal / cancellation of an arrest warrant.

If the authorities of the issuing country insist on the warrant being executed, then Interpol will facilitate the execution, with the member country in whose juristriction the accused is then residing.

If there is no push from the country of issuance, then Interpol will put everything on a back burner.

The Attorney General obviously doesn't know his arse from his elbow.

I think the issue was why didn't Interpol execute the warrant as Mr. Thaksin traveled to France, Brunei, Dubai and Germany. Yes, Interpol may have had to put the warrant on its books, but it wasn't obliged to make it a priority. The aforementioned countries, certainly did not consider it a priority and treated it as politically motivated.

I am not disagreeing with you, rather I am pointing out that rest of the world did not consider Thailand's warrant reasonable. Interpol relies on the police forces of member nations to execute the warrants. If the foreign governments ignore the warrant, then Interpol can do little.

Edited August 15, 2011 by geriatrickid

[surangw]

one more foot in the door

[TAWP]

These are all baby steps in clearing the road of bumps and roadblocks for Thaksin's eventual return to Thailand. And he needs to get back soon as running a government via telecommuting has its limitations.

What steps?

There was never an Interpol arrest warrent on Thaksin nor will be there one. Not on these current charges.

If you think otherwise you failed for a propaganda hoax, staged during the time of the Abhisit government that made people belief Interpol would go after Thaksin.

Interpol don't issue arrest warrants so the absence of one means nothing.

[samurai]

These are all baby steps in clearing the road of bumps and roadblocks for Thaksin's eventual return to Thailand. And he needs to get back soon as running a government via telecommuting has its limitations.

What steps?

There was never an Interpol arrest warrent on Thaksin nor will be there one. Not on these current charges.

If you think otherwise you failed for a propaganda hoax, staged during the time of the Abhisit government that made people belief Interpol would go after Thaksin.

Interpol don't issue arrest warrants so the absence of one means nothing.

It means that Interpol and a lot of foreign countries don't see Thaksin as the terrorist or what ever he is branded and accused of the the Anti-Thaksinista propaganda.

One propaganda lie was that Interpol would go after Thaksin, or that he is banned there and there because of his "crimes". That propaganda bubble is now burst.

[mca]

This borders on the surreal even in LOS. Folks talking about an arrest warrant that never was and it becomes a major new story. A bit like " MCA has the right to defend himself against rape charges that have never been filed"

What am I missing something here?