Have A Friend Here, Who Needs Help

[LostinBkkagain]

A Friend of mine has broken his knee. What actually happened was the bar owner pushed a girl who was working there over and the girl landed on his leg and dislocated it, he's actually had to have to operations and metal plates inserted. Thing is he wants to know if there's anything he can do to the bar owner, as they're not offering any compensation. I know that's a long shot here, but thought I'd ask.

He also wants to go home but the doctors have said he wont be waling for many months now. How long after this sort of injury can he fly home? He's running out of money too, he hasn't got any insurance and I cant help him with what he will need, I've done as much as I can! He is from UK, so would the British Embassy offer any help? I will call them Monday anyway.

[easyride]

I'm no doctor but there are such things as wheelchairs at airports to assist. I assume he's not confined to his room?

[toffo9]

buy a pair of crutches and fly home

[WarpSpeed]

I'm no doctor but there are such things as wheelchairs at airports to assist. I assume he's not confined to his room?

Yeah and you get seated first and first off too..

OP says no offer of help from the bar owner? So why is he waiting for an offer? He should have filed a report with the police a while ago and should be making a personal request for compensation if that story is true and was he alone? Any witnesses? What about the girl that was pushed? Offer her some dosh and reaasurance that she is not in trouble to back you up if the story is accurate..

[Dag]

I know a lawyer that got a payment out of a shopping centre for an injury if you want a lawyer.

Also months to walk for a broken leg sounds strange....also 2 ops for a broken leg ??.....maybe some gouging going on ?

[LostinBkkagain]

I know a lawyer that got a payment out of a shopping centre for an injury if you want a lawyer.

Also months to walk for a broken leg sounds strange....also 2 ops for a broken leg ??.....maybe some gouging going on ?

That would great if you could sort out the lawer or his number he can call him direct. He's told me his got metal plates and screws in his leg, so what he's telling me it seems truthful but 'gouging' as you put it could of happened from the hospital but he's shown me the bill and says the doctor said he may not walk properly again, at least 2 months before he can put weight on. I'm no doctor so I'm going by what his telling me.

He's a bit worried of going to the police as the bar owner is well known and knows people. But if he can do something he will, I'm not 100% sure as I wasn't there. But the bar should have video footage right? So if he did file a report now, they can check video footage? Its in Pattaya does anyone know how long they need to keep the video footage?

[rodentwarrior]

So, yet another story about a tourist with no insurance.

[Chivas]

So, yet another story about a tourist with no insurance.

Another cynical clown-please before you offer your "Im too clever observance" check out the facts.

Theres no insurance in the world that will pay out in these circumstances-being in a bar immediately churns 80% denial in claim unless stroke/heart attack etc and being in a bar reduces those two barely claimable !!

[Dag]

Lol....being in a bar cancels all insurance worldwide ....

Best you choose proper insurance next time me thinks......give Boopa a miss.

As for the lawyer....you best ask your friend if he wants to pay for it all first....not getting him to contact you if he thinks he can get a 'no win no pay' deal here or such......oh...and I doubt all bars have cc footage......she must have been one big heifer.

[Thongkorn]

You cannot fly with a leg in plaster , because of possible blood clots maybe six or seven weeks before he can fly,

[nocturn]

So, yet another story about a tourist with no insurance.

Another cynical clown-please before you offer your "Im too clever observance" check out the facts.

Theres no insurance in the world that will pay out in these circumstances-being in a bar immediately churns 80% denial in claim unless stroke/heart attack etc and being in a bar reduces those two barely claimable !!

utter nonsense

[nocturn]

You cannot fly with a leg in plaster , because of possible blood clots maybe six or seven weeks before he can fly,

again, total nonsense.

[Thongkorn]

So, yet another story about a tourist with no insurance.

Another cynical clown-please before you offer your "Im too clever observance" check out the facts.

Theres no insurance in the world that will pay out in these circumstances-being in a bar immediately churns 80% denial in claim unless stroke/heart attack etc and being in a bar reduces those two barely claimable !!

utter nonsense

Insurance would pay for your hospital bills . Providing you had the correct insurance.

[Thongkorn]

You cannot fly with a leg in plaster , because of possible blood clots maybe six or seven weeks before he can fly,

again, total nonsense.

I Think before you start typing total Nonsense again do some research my friend broke his leg when he knocked off his motor bike, In Thailand, he COULD not fly home , because of possible blood clots, maybe i just dreamed it up .and the pot on his leg was just my imagination, and the airline companys refusal to let him board a plane,

[Livinginexile]

Lol....being in a bar cancels all insurance worldwide ....

Best you choose proper insurance next time me thinks......give Boopa a miss.

As for the lawyer....you best ask your friend if he wants to pay for it all first....not getting him to contact you if he thinks he can get a 'no win no pay' deal here or such......oh...and I doubt all bars have cc footage......she must have been one big heifer.

Travel insurance doesn't cover accidents in a bar?

What a load of codswollop!

[WarpSpeed]

You cannot fly with a leg in plaster , because of possible blood clots maybe six or seven weeks before he can fly,

Yes, good point though short flights are not necessarily a problem a long one would be, must be able to move about, stretch, etc.

[cardholder]

So, yet another story about a tourist with no insurance.

Another cynical clown-please before you offer your "Im too clever observance" check out the facts.

Theres no insurance in the world that will pay out in these circumstances-being in a bar immediately churns 80% denial in claim unless stroke/heart attack etc and being in a bar reduces those two barely claimable !!

No, but slipping on the pavement is covered.

To travel to somewhere like Thailand without insurance is just plain stupid and puts it in the 'som nom nar' category.

[rodentwarrior]

Well, I looked in my extensive health insurance policy (not Boopa btw) and I can find no exclusions referring to bars.

I say again, another sad story of yet another traveller with no travel insurance.

And you can call me cynical if you like, just don't pass the hat around me, I have no time or money for irresponsible people.

[Forethat]

You cannot fly with a leg in plaster , because of possible blood clots maybe six or seven weeks before he can fly,

Yes, good point though short flights are not necessarily a problem a long one would be, must be able to move about, stretch, etc.

OK, let's stop this nonsense. You CAN fly with a cast. Most major airlines WILL allow you to fly with a cast. The person in question is from the UK, so I suggest he buys a ticket with British Airways who doesn't have any restrictions against flying with a cast other than within 48 hours after the cast is fitted, if it's a longer flight as in this case.

http://www.britishai...fo/public/en_gb

Great! Now that we have established the facts we can move on!

[Forethat]

You cannot fly with a leg in plaster , because of possible blood clots maybe six or seven weeks before he can fly,

Actually, I was wondering if a cast would work pretty much the same way a compression stocking - which is used to PREVENT deep vain thrombosis (DVT) during flights...?

[WarpSpeed]

Ok so the idea of blood clots (especially in the legs) while being seated for long periods is a myth? The world wide medical community will be very happy to hear that famed Internet Dr. Forethat has debunked their decades of real life experience and studies of lower extremities blood clotting.

Regardless of whether or not ANY airlines will be foolish enough to allow it (and probably they have a release to sign) it's a massive gamble to do it given the increased risk of clots and that's what a doctor would advise against....

[WarpSpeed]

You cannot fly with a leg in plaster , because of possible blood clots maybe six or seven weeks before he can fly,

Actually, I was wondering if a cast would work pretty much the same way a compression stocking - which is used to PREVENT deep vain thrombosis (DVT) during flights...?

No it wouldn't it's not tight enough and the injury is susceptible to clotting in the first place especially around the knee where there are several important veins and arteries in place. Consider that he doesn't just have a small localized cast it must cover his knee area so both the thigh and the calf are likely to be mostly covered and immobile.. Even peeing or #2 would be a real potential issue by himself.. Quite frankly #2 would be impossible in a cast that length in those small heads.

He also had surgery so healing wounds underneath, a very real blood clot concern.

[Forethat]

Ok so the idea of blood clots (especially in the legs) while being seated for long periods is a myth? The world wide medical community will be very happy to hear that famed Internet Dr. Forethat has debunked their decades of real life experience and studies of lower extremities blood clotting.

Regardless of whether or not ANY airlines will be foolish enough to allow it (and probably they have a release to sign) it's a massive gamble to do it given the increased risk of clots and that's what a doctor would advise against....

Why would there be an increased risk of DVT if you wear a cast...?

[toffo9]

I'm no doctor but there are such things as wheelchairs at airports to assist. I assume he's not confined to his room?

Yeah and you get seated first and first off too..

OP says no offer of help from the bar owner? So why is he waiting for an offer? He should have filed a report with the police a while ago and should be making a personal request for compensation if that story is true and was he alone? Any witnesses? What about the girl that was pushed? Offer her some dosh and reaasurance that she is not in trouble to back you up if the story is accurate..

First on , last off im afraid

[Forethat]

Ok so the idea of blood clots (especially in the legs) while being seated for long periods is a myth? The world wide medical community will be very happy to hear that famed Internet Dr. Forethat has debunked their decades of real life experience and studies of lower extremities blood clotting.

Regardless of whether or not ANY airlines will be foolish enough to allow it (and probably they have a release to sign) it's a massive gamble to do it given the increased risk of clots and that's what a doctor would advise against....

I think you should direct your juvenile aggression towards the airlines who allows passengers with casts. I understand you're upset, but it's actually not my fault - I just pointed you in the direction where facts was to be found.

[WarpSpeed]

I'm no doctor but there are such things as wheelchairs at airports to assist. I assume he's not confined to his room?

Yeah and you get seated first and first off too..

OP says no offer of help from the bar owner? So why is he waiting for an offer? He should have filed a report with the police a while ago and should be making a personal request for compensation if that story is true and was he alone? Any witnesses? What about the girl that was pushed? Offer her some dosh and reaasurance that she is not in trouble to back you up if the story is accurate..

First on , last off im afraid

Really?? I guess that's possible but probably more related to a specific airline?

[harrry]

Casts must be split for flying as swelling may occur. It is generally still possible to fly.

[WarpSpeed]

Casts must be split for flying as swelling may occur. It is generally still possible to fly.

Making generalizations as there are circumstances in which you can not or should not fly with a cast as has been pointed out already. This is not just a common fracture with a localized cast which would be bad enough, pay attention people.. But swelling is another problem with the location of this injury given that it is his knee where he needs to have it fully immobilized and supported and swelling in that area is veeery serious and would cut off circulation, the primary concern for clotting as well.

[toffo9]

I'm no doctor but there are such things as wheelchairs at airports to assist. I assume he's not confined to his room?

Yeah and you get seated first and first off too..

OP says no offer of help from the bar owner? So why is he waiting for an offer? He should have filed a report with the police a while ago and should be making a personal request for compensation if that story is true and was he alone? Any witnesses? What about the girl that was pushed? Offer her some dosh and reaasurance that she is not in trouble to back you up if the story is accurate..

First on , last off im afraid

Really?? I guess that's possible but probably more related to a specific airline?

Not here to argue with you warspeed but im in a sports wheelchair and travelled allover the world.. Its first on last off... Every airline is the same its because the wheelchair is where your baggage is and you cause an obstruction for ppl waiting to disembark... Good advantage though is even though your off last you go to the fron of the long lines at passport control so evens itself out

[harrry]

I can confirm that too as a wheelchair user.

First on but get a long wait talking to the flight crew before I get off. There is one after me though.....The captain cannot leave before I do.