Emissions Test

[RoastBeef]

I am looking to import a motorcycle into Thailand and would like any information you guys have on the emissions test that will be performed on it. Can anyone advise how the test is performed ( at idle or speed etc ) and exactly what levels of emissions the bike will need to adhere to.

Thanks for any assistance you can provide.

Any recomendations for Brokers that can assist in the import would also be appreciated.

[KRS1]

I took an emissions test 3 years ago for noise and smoke on a NSR 150 two stroke. The noise test is conducted while the bike is idling, as far as the smoke, can't remember the details, but if a 10+ year old two stroke can pass, wont be harder for a four stroke, unless its belching black smoke everywhere.

Took the test on Pattanakarn close to the On Nut intersection, their pretty lenient.

[Garry]

went for the five year check. I pulled up, they asked me to park the bike. They checked the frame & engine numbers. I asked about the emissions check. No need, you pass already. Thanks guys, have a great day.

[RoastBeef]

went for the five year check. I pulled up, they asked me to park the bike. They checked the frame & engine numbers. I asked about the emissions check. No need, you pass already. Thanks guys, have a great day.

Nice one, was that on a Ducati ?

[Garry]

went for the five year check. I pulled up, they asked me to park the bike. They checked the frame & engine numbers. I asked about the emissions check. No need, you pass already. Thanks guys, have a great day.

Nice one, was that on a Ducati ?

Yes it was on my 999S and I take it back it was the 6th year check. The guys just love the bike. :jap:

[janverbeem]

The emmisions test for importing a bike is a completely different thing from emmisions test for the yearly registration.

The test which cost by memory around 28.000 baht and which is only on invitation is done in a controlled environment.If you fail the test you can have a retest but have to pay the 28.000 Baht again.Forget to do it by yourself as you will surely fail..

To comply, the people who are specialised in doing these tests will strip the exhaust of your bike and mount a special exhaust with 2 or more catalyzers built in and will modify the gasoline and air intake of your bike since otherwise they will not pass.

[RoastBeef]

The emmisions test for importing a bike is a completely different thing from emmisions test for the yearly registration.

The test which cost by memory around 28.000 baht and which is only on invitation is done in a controlled environment.If you fail the test you can have a retest but have to pay the 28.000 Baht again.Forget to do it by yourself as you will surely fail..

To comply, the people who are specialised in doing these tests will strip the exhaust of your bike and mount a special exhaust with 2 or more catalyzers built in and will modify the gasoline and air intake of your bike since otherwise they will not pass.

That is the info I am after. Have you had this done yourself ? Any recommendations for a specialist that does this ?

[janverbeem]

The emmisions test for importing a bike is a completely different thing from emmisions test for the yearly registration.

The test which cost by memory around 28.000 baht and which is only on invitation is done in a controlled environment.If you fail the test you can have a retest but have to pay the 28.000 Baht again.Forget to do it by yourself as you will surely fail..

To comply, the people who are specialised in doing these tests will strip the exhaust of your bike and mount a special exhaust with 2 or more catalyzers built in and will modify the gasoline and air intake of your bike since otherwise they will not pass.

That is the info I am after. Have you had this done yourself ? Any recommendations for a specialist that does this ?

I'll go through the documents I have and try to find the guys details tomorrow.Not sure if I will have his phone number but i have his address and gps coordinates somewhere.Don't know where you are located,but if you're in the Pattaya area I can give you contact details from someone trustable who can arrange everything for you,as there is much more involved than only an emission test.Don't expect it to be cheap and it may take maybe 6 months or more to be completed depending on which bike you want to import.

[RoastBeef]

The emmisions test for importing a bike is a completely different thing from emmisions test for the yearly registration.

The test which cost by memory around 28.000 baht and which is only on invitation is done in a controlled environment.If you fail the test you can have a retest but have to pay the 28.000 Baht again.Forget to do it by yourself as you will surely fail..

To comply, the people who are specialised in doing these tests will strip the exhaust of your bike and mount a special exhaust with 2 or more catalyzers built in and will modify the gasoline and air intake of your bike since otherwise they will not pass.

That is the info I am after. Have you had this done yourself ? Any recommendations for a specialist that does this ?

I'll go through the documents I have and try to find the guys details tomorrow.Not sure if I will have his phone number but i have his address and gps coordinates somewhere.Don't know where you are located,but if you're in the Pattaya area I can give you contact details from someone trustable who can arrange everything for you,as there is much more involved than only an emission test.Don't expect it to be cheap and it may take maybe 6 months or more to be completed depending on which bike you want to import.

Thanks, much appreciated.

[katabeachbum]

If you start with a California or EuroIV approved bike not more than 1-2 years old, there is a slight chance it can pass without mods, IOW 29k baht for one test.

Any other bike, mods as above, and going price is 60-90k baht

but it takes much more to be approved for road legal. passing organised crime unit inspection can take months

[hedonist44]

The emmisions test for importing a bike is a completely different thing from emmisions test for the yearly registration.

The test which cost by memory around 28.000 baht and which is only on invitation is done in a controlled environment.If you fail the test you can have a retest but have to pay the 28.000 Baht again.Forget to do it by yourself as you will surely fail..

To comply, the people who are specialised in doing these tests will strip the exhaust of your bike and mount a special exhaust with 2 or more catalyzers built in and will modify the gasoline and air intake of your bike since otherwise they will not pass.

+1

[katabeachbum]

The emmisions test for importing a bike is a completely different thing from emmisions test for the yearly registration.

The test which cost by memory around 28.000 baht and which is only on invitation is done in a controlled environment.If you fail the test you can have a retest but have to pay the 28.000 Baht again.Forget to do it by yourself as you will surely fail..

To comply, the people who are specialised in doing these tests will strip the exhaust of your bike and mount a special exhaust with 2 or more catalyzers built in and will modify the gasoline and air intake of your bike since otherwise they will not pass.

+1

talking about annual inspection/transfer inspection, I had my 2011 Ninja650R inspected Friday. So used to have DLT aprove anything I didnt even think about installing dB killer in Akropovic prior to inspection.

They asked me politely to not start it indoor again, but take it quietly out. approved, left the place idling

[Sojourner]

The emmisions test for importing a bike is a completely different thing from emmisions test for the yearly registration.

The test which cost by memory around 28.000 baht and which is only on invitation is done in a controlled environment.If you fail the test you can have a retest but have to pay the 28.000 Baht again.Forget to do it by yourself as you will surely fail..

To comply, the people who are specialised in doing these tests will strip the exhaust of your bike and mount a special exhaust with 2 or more catalyzers built in and will modify the gasoline and air intake of your bike since otherwise they will not pass.

That is the info I am after. Have you had this done yourself ? Any recommendations for a specialist that does this ?

You have not mentioned the bike you want to bring in. If it is not a fuel injected bike you can forget it ever passing the required emissions test. If it is a bike that complies with Euro 3 or Euro 4 emissions standards you stand a good chance of it passing. Bikes that meet US standards, including California, are less strict than the Eurozone so you can expect more problems. You have only touched on a privately imported bike passing Thai emissions but there are many other hoops you will need to jump through, especially if it is used. Edited November 12, 2011 by Sojourner

[BSJ]

OK, they have testing of bike for the annual inspection. Why not bus and coach? Cos there isn't one in Pattaya that would pass if tested. They all dirty dirty beasties.

[katabeachbum]

OK, they have testing of bike for the annual inspection. Why not bus and coach? Cos there isn't one in Pattaya that would pass if tested. They all dirty dirty beasties.

twice a year if they are yellow plated, legal to take passengers for fee. once a year if they are white plated

and they pass the emission requirements valid when they where registered new, just as a 10 yo 2 stroke bike passes the requiremnts valid 10 years ago

a new one needs to pass euroII today, and euroIII from january

[RoastBeef]

The emmisions test for importing a bike is a completely different thing from emmisions test for the yearly registration.

The test which cost by memory around 28.000 baht and which is only on invitation is done in a controlled environment.If you fail the test you can have a retest but have to pay the 28.000 Baht again.Forget to do it by yourself as you will surely fail..

To comply, the people who are specialised in doing these tests will strip the exhaust of your bike and mount a special exhaust with 2 or more catalyzers built in and will modify the gasoline and air intake of your bike since otherwise they will not pass.

That is the info I am after. Have you had this done yourself ? Any recommendations for a specialist that does this ?

You have not mentioned the bike you want to bring in. If it is not a fuel injected bike you can forget it ever passing the required emissions test. If it is a bike that complies with Euro 3 or Euro 4 emissions standards you stand a good chance of it passing. Bikes that meet US standards, including California, are less strict than the Eurozone so you can expect more problems. You have only touched on a privately imported bike passing Thai emissions but there are many other hoops you will need to jump through, especially if it is used.

It is a 2002 Honda VT750 DC, not fuel injected. Are you saying this cannot pass the test even with the modified exhaust etc that has already been mentioned ? ..... and of course some tea money to ease the way ?

[Hili]

OK, they have testing of bike for the annual inspection. Why not bus and coach? Cos there isn't one in Pattaya that would pass if tested. They all dirty dirty beasties.

twice a year if they are yellow plated, legal to take passengers for fee. once a year if they are white plated

and they pass the emission requirements valid when they where registered new, just as a 10 yo 2 stroke bike passes the requiremnts valid 10 years ago

a new one needs to pass euroII today, and euroIII from january

DLT not seem to be really follow their own rules. I changed registration on a more than one year old bike had to pass the "testing" area, some papers went from one to another person and everybody stamped and signed it, no tests or anything at all..... just oh nice bike HOW MUCH?

One of those guys told me that a twos bros is better and LOUDER than my Akrapovic exhaust.

[Bung]

Why would you bother bringing in a near ten year old vf 750? Look at all the threads on importing bikes and you will soon see the folly in it. Why not sell it and buy new here? By the time you pay for bringing in that old bike it would be as cheap to buy new here. I suspect it is for sentimental reasons but honestly if you are moving here it may be time to move on.

[karlos]

I always wondered how these 'tea money' emission tests would hold up when it comes to an insurance pay out?

The only people that will look thoroughly enough to find out that the bike didn't really pass it's emission test would be an insurance company, they will go to extraordinary lengths to not pay out!

But hey it's Thailand after all and maybe once the 'tea money' is paid the bike obtains all the official stamps, ticks and back-handers needed to register the bike onto the data base...

[katabeachbum]

OK, they have testing of bike for the annual inspection. Why not bus and coach? Cos there isn't one in Pattaya that would pass if tested. They all dirty dirty beasties.

twice a year if they are yellow plated, legal to take passengers for fee. once a year if they are white plated

and they pass the emission requirements valid when they where registered new, just as a 10 yo 2 stroke bike passes the requiremnts valid 10 years ago

a new one needs to pass euroII today, and euroIII from january

DLT not seem to be really follow their own rules. I changed registration on a more than one year old bike had to pass the "testing" area, some papers went from one to another person and everybody stamped and signed it, no tests or anything at all..... just oh nice bike HOW MUCH?

One of those guys told me that a twos bros is better and LOUDER than my Akrapovic exhaust.

same thing all over the world. sometimes they give you a hard time, sometimes you just slide through. perhaps thats why they are not allowed to do emissionapproval on new registrations

and as I have been there with 2bros, akropovic and leo vince, they all agree 2 bros is louder

[katabeachbum]

The emmisions test for importing a bike is a completely different thing from emmisions test for the yearly registration.

The test which cost by memory around 28.000 baht and which is only on invitation is done in a controlled environment.If you fail the test you can have a retest but have to pay the 28.000 Baht again.Forget to do it by yourself as you will surely fail..

To comply, the people who are specialised in doing these tests will strip the exhaust of your bike and mount a special exhaust with 2 or more catalyzers built in and will modify the gasoline and air intake of your bike since otherwise they will not pass.

That is the info I am after. Have you had this done yourself ? Any recommendations for a specialist that does this ?

You have not mentioned the bike you want to bring in. If it is not a fuel injected bike you can forget it ever passing the required emissions test. If it is a bike that complies with Euro 3 or Euro 4 emissions standards you stand a good chance of it passing. Bikes that meet US standards, including California, are less strict than the Eurozone so you can expect more problems. You have only touched on a privately imported bike passing Thai emissions but there are many other hoops you will need to jump through, especially if it is used.

It is a 2002 Honda VT750 DC, not fuel injected. Are you saying this cannot pass the test even with the modified exhaust etc that has already been mentioned ? ..... and of course some tea money to ease the way ?

no way legally, in TH it would have to pass todays requirements, which it can not in neither Thailand, europe or usa

but 80-90k baht could get it approved without leaving your garage

[RoastBeef]

Why would you bother bringing in a near ten year old vf 750? Look at all the threads on importing bikes and you will soon see the folly in it. Why not sell it and buy new here? By the time you pay for bringing in that old bike it would be as cheap to buy new here. I suspect it is for sentimental reasons but honestly if you are moving here it may be time to move on.

That is an option though I would much prefer to bring my own bike. The older bikes do have the advantage of a large discount on the import tax but obviously also a disadvantage in passing emissions. The price of buying a bike in Thailand is going to be inflated by the same taxes etc. so if I can get mine through at an acceptable cost then that will be first choice for me. Otherwise its plan B.

"but 80-90k baht could get it approved without leaving your garage"

[janverbeem]

Why would you bother bringing in a near ten year old vf 750? Look at all the threads on importing bikes and you will soon see the folly in it. Why not sell it and buy new here? By the time you pay for bringing in that old bike it would be as cheap to buy new here. I suspect it is for sentimental reasons but honestly if you are moving here it may be time to move on.

That is an option though I would much prefer to bring my own bike. The older bikes do have the advantage of a large discount on the import tax but obviously also a disadvantage in passing emissions. The price of buying a bike in Thailand is going to be inflated by the same taxes etc. so if I can get mine through at an acceptable cost then that will be first choice for me. Otherwise its plan B.

"but 80-90k baht could get it approved without leaving your garage"

Roastbeef,I have to admit that your bike looks very good so I understand how much time you put into it,but forget about getting a 10 year old bike passing the emissions test.Ten years ago that would have been possible,with some palm greasing, but not these days with the government trying to stamp out corruption at the departments.You have to know that currently after everything is approved it will still take 30 days to have your registration book handed out,because a special department need to check if something looks fishy with the approval at all the involved departments.

As KBB mentioned,80 - 90.000 Baht may do the thing,but I'm sure he was talking about the emission test only, as it would cost already more than 30.000 Baht do do it the legal way.

Add to that the transport cost,import duty and registration cost and you are already at double the cost a similar,legally registered , bike will cost you to buy in Thailand.Read again,I mention only the Thailand related costs,not the value of your bike.

[katabeachbum]

Why would you bother bringing in a near ten year old vf 750? Look at all the threads on importing bikes and you will soon see the folly in it. Why not sell it and buy new here? By the time you pay for bringing in that old bike it would be as cheap to buy new here. I suspect it is for sentimental reasons but honestly if you are moving here it may be time to move on.

That is an option though I would much prefer to bring my own bike. The older bikes do have the advantage of a large discount on the import tax but obviously also a disadvantage in passing emissions. The price of buying a bike in Thailand is going to be inflated by the same taxes etc. so if I can get mine through at an acceptable cost then that will be first choice for me. Otherwise its plan B.

"but 80-90k baht could get it approved without leaving your garage"

Roastbeef,I have to admit that your bike looks very good so I understand how much time you put into it,but forget about getting a 10 year old bike passing the emissions test.Ten years ago that would have been possible,with some palm greasing, but not these days with the government trying to stamp out corruption at the departments.You have to know that currently after everything is approved it will still take 30 days to have your registration book handed out,because a special department need to check if something looks fishy with the approval at all the involved departments.

As KBB mentioned,80 - 90.000 Baht may do the thing,but I'm sure he was talking about the emission test only, as it would cost already more than 30.000 Baht do do it the legal way.

Add to that the transport cost,import duty and registration cost and you are already at double the cost a similar,legally registered , bike will cost you to buy in Thailand.Read again,I mention only the Thailand related costs,not the value of your bike.

sometimes DSI needs 3 times 30 days to approve the approvals

and legally booked 2002-2007 vtx1800 goes for 300k baht

[Sojourner]

The emmisions test for importing a bike is a completely different thing from emmisions test for the yearly registration.

The test which cost by memory around 28.000 baht and which is only on invitation is done in a controlled environment.If you fail the test you can have a retest but have to pay the 28.000 Baht again.Forget to do it by yourself as you will surely fail..

To comply, the people who are specialised in doing these tests will strip the exhaust of your bike and mount a special exhaust with 2 or more catalyzers built in and will modify the gasoline and air intake of your bike since otherwise they will not pass.

That is the info I am after. Have you had this done yourself ? Any recommendations for a specialist that does this ?

You have not mentioned the bike you want to bring in. If it is not a fuel injected bike you can forget it ever passing the required emissions test. If it is a bike that complies with Euro 3 or Euro 4 emissions standards you stand a good chance of it passing. Bikes that meet US standards, including California, are less strict than the Eurozone so you can expect more problems. You have only touched on a privately imported bike passing Thai emissions but there are many other hoops you will need to jump through, especially if it is used.

It is a 2002 Honda VT750 DC, not fuel injected. Are you saying this cannot pass the test even with the modified exhaust etc that has already been mentioned ? ..... and of course some tea money to ease the way ?

Correct, if it's not FI it doesn't stand a chance of passing emissions test. I wouldn't know anything about an illegal activity to get around the law. Sorry

[RoastBeef]

Why would you bother bringing in a near ten year old vf 750? Look at all the threads on importing bikes and you will soon see the folly in it. Why not sell it and buy new here? By the time you pay for bringing in that old bike it would be as cheap to buy new here. I suspect it is for sentimental reasons but honestly if you are moving here it may be time to move on.

That is an option though I would much prefer to bring my own bike. The older bikes do have the advantage of a large discount on the import tax but obviously also a disadvantage in passing emissions. The price of buying a bike in Thailand is going to be inflated by the same taxes etc. so if I can get mine through at an acceptable cost then that will be first choice for me. Otherwise its plan B.

"but 80-90k baht could get it approved without leaving your garage"

Roastbeef,I have to admit that your bike looks very good so I understand how much time you put into it,but forget about getting a 10 year old bike passing the emissions test.Ten years ago that would have been possible,with some palm greasing, but not these days with the government trying to stamp out corruption at the departments.You have to know that currently after everything is approved it will still take 30 days to have your registration book handed out,because a special department need to check if something looks fishy with the approval at all the involved departments.

As KBB mentioned,80 - 90.000 Baht may do the thing,but I'm sure he was talking about the emission test only, as it would cost already more than 30.000 Baht do do it the legal way.

Add to that the transport cost,import duty and registration cost and you are already at double the cost a similar,legally registered , bike will cost you to buy in Thailand.Read again,I mention only the Thailand related costs,not the value of your bike.

sometimes DSI needs 3 times 30 days to approve the approvals

and legally booked 2002-2007 vtx1800 goes for 300k baht

Thank you all for your advice which I will ( reluctantly ! ) take on board. Time to move on to a new bike then.