Police Find Body In Bangkok's Yan Nawa District

[Falcon]

So Diamonds are now bad? I am a diamond dealer buying rough stones and taking them right through the process to cutting and and certifying so where is anything that says that all diamond dealers live by the sword? I pay for my stones and everything else in between and as such, its a very lucrative but clean business, its only people like you who make it out to be something its not.

diamonds, drugs.

LIVE BY THE SWORD.

DIE BY THE SWORD.

[wxyz]

yep, suicide, it took 3 misses and one hit with 2 left just in case it only grazed him

obviously, riding on the back of the motorcycles is dangerous, with a target painted on your back

[wxyz]

talk about 'blood diamonds'

[Beetlejuice]

If you want to live in safety and peace in Thailand, than don`t become involved.

[Briggsy]

During the war on drugs in which police executed over 3,000 people, they would always place a gun and some drugs at the scene before inviting compliant members of the press to take photos.

Nonsense.

Really? Were you here during the war on drugs? Did you follow it in the local press? Day after day, picture after picture of slain victim with a pistol conveniently placed in one hand and a bag of meth tabs conveniently poking out of his pocket. Do you know anything about it?

Or do you imagine because it couldn't happen in Ipswich or Groningen or Rooty Hill, that it couldn't possibly have happened here.

The police here are involved in all sorts of executions and murders. The fact that a lot of convenient evidence was found at the scene usually means it was meant to be found.

Edited December 24, 2011 by Briggsy

[prvtdetdave]

diamonds, drugs.

LIVE BY THE SWORD.

DIE BY THE SWORD.

Drugs and arms yes. But diamond is a honest commodity, why do you have to die by the sword

"But diamond is a honest commodity"

Are you kidding? De boers pays Russia millions not to flood the market.

Diamonds are the most dishonest business I have ever to come across.

[b2bme]

Condolences to his family. Easy to pre-judge a businesman in a lucritive trade, dead with suspicious circumstances but let's not lower ourselves.

[boggle]

The body of a diamond-shop owner

30-year-old Hamad "Tommy" Muhammad

Is he a Thai citizen?

[maxtingtong]

live fast..

[Heng]

Kind of suspicious that the shell casings found were .38 though.

[TAWP]

The body of a diamond-shop owner

30-year-old Hamad "Tommy" Muhammad

Is he a Thai citizen?

I know a selection of traders in valuable stones, some are Thai, most are not.

[BookMan]

Didn't see any mention of 'suicide' in the article

[retell]

The cops forgot to mention accidental death or suicide due to congenital heart disease. That should just about cover all possibilities for death. Well done Sherlock's.

How about the felt a bullet go by his helmet.

One sensitive helmet.

funny the first bullet i hear of that goes slower then the speed of sound

[KHR1010]

The cops forgot to mention accidental death or suicide due to congenital heart disease. That should just about cover all possibilities for death. Well done Sherlock's.

How about the felt a bullet go by his helmet.

One sensitive helmet.

funny the first bullet i hear of that goes slower then the speed of sound

Point of fact- At least half of all pistol ammunition is sub-sonic (slower than the speed of sound) This is key when using a suppressed weapon. See fifth paragraph under the heading of Internal Ballistics.

http://www.quarry.ni.../ballistics.htm

Edited December 24, 2011 by KHR1010

[IAMHERE]

Note to self........diamonds can be dangerous, stay out of sports cars, lets see what else to add to this list????

Judging by the car, diamonds can make you money.

.38 cartridges are in a revolver, someone had to empty the cylinder for the four spent and two bullets to be on the floor of the car; strange.

[eslteacher]

The only way to enjoy life in the Wild East....er....Thailand is to never have a business, stay single and stay out of bars.....

Pretty much bang on there.

Some people just dig themselves a hole that after awhile is impossible to get out of.

[eslteacher]

The only way to enjoy life in the Wild East....er....Thailand is to never have a business, stay single and stay out of bars.....

Pretty much bang on there.

Some people just dig themselves a hole that after awhile is impossible to get out of.

[Jaivin2011]

Most of the wholesale diamond and diamond jewelry in Thailand is controlled by the Indians and Indian Muslims who are all involved in money laundering, the sale of fake diamonds and "touched -up diamonds", fake certifications, etc. they are all a bunch of big crooks. The Thai Chinese are justthe retailers owning shops in the malls etc.

[sjjmmi]

Nice car.

+1

[housepainter]

Lawless.

Planted evidence.

The drugs top provide a motive when it is glaringly obvious the man was wealthy and therefore a target in Thailand.

What is a clearer case to grasp is the murder of the repo man. He clearly was upsetting people.

Upset people in Thailand take a gun and kill you. If they are lazy they hire someone else.

Don't worry though. There's only a slim chance it may happen to you - even by mistake or caught in the cross fire. Slim chance.

Whereas at home there's no chance.

Your choice.

[elcent]

the questions are, for whom was he working and what were his other connections?

Who was/is in the mining business connected with this man?

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[redroo]

.38 SPECIAL mainly used in revolver or a desert eagle pistol,

or

.38 SUPER a sports pistol calibre used for steel plate events due to its extra nock down power.

both are of a 9 mm diameter

but not the commonly used 9mm luger auto pistol round.

Edited December 24, 2011 by redroo

[sirchai]

Must have been a serious deal that he'd lost his car and his life.

[DLock]

Most of the wholesale diamond and diamond jewelry in Thailand is controlled by the Indians and Indian Muslims who are all involved in money laundering, the sale of fake diamonds and "touched -up diamonds", fake certifications, etc. they are all a bunch of big crooks. The Thai Chinese are justthe retailers owning shops in the malls etc.

Really?

How do you come to this conclusion?

[marioDC]

It's been a while since I was last on here, but things still seem to be the same : the majority of you posters all know better and know the answer to everything. The police are doing there job with the means possible (and yes I know that there's corruption also), and journalists are also just guessing what woulda coulda shoulda happen...

Accept the country for what it is ... nothing will change soon anyway (atleast not in our lifetimes) ... nobody's keeping you from moving back home, is there ?

[spidermike007]

The police here in Thailand are some of the most incompetent outside of Burkina Faso, Guyana, Surinam, and perhaps only a few other places on earth. I have read accounts of British pros, who were brought in to consult on high profile crimes, like the David Carradine incident some time ago, and they tell of a shocking lack of talent in the top departments here, and terrible resources in terms of crime labs, equipment, forensic experts, blood splatter analysis, etc. So, what do we expect? Combine that with corruption, and we never know what we are dealing with, but 98% of the time we can assume it is either incorrect, or misleading, or that the result was paid for. That is a fact. The reality is that the police do not have the talent, resources, expertise, nor motivation to do good work, when it comes to investigation, detective work, forensic work, etc. Wish it were different, but many, many outside experts have testified to these facts. Thailand has a long way to go, when it comes to police work.

Edited December 25, 2011 by spidermike007

[fred007]

Business, romantic or drug conflict ......Yeah Yeah What about the Mercedes can i buy it from the Government to support the victims from crime as they do in Australia ......Yeah Yeah Right..

[ingvar]

The scene in the picture looks just like a scene out of CSI, very professional.

[Oberkommando]

The police here in Thailand are some of the most incompetent outside of Burkina Faso, Guyana, Surinam, and perhaps only a few other places on earth. I have read accounts of British pros, who were brought in to consult on high profile crimes, like the David Carradine incident some time ago, and they tell of a shocking lack of talent in the top departments here, and terrible resources in terms of crime labs, equipment, forensic experts, blood splatter analysis, etc. So, what do we expect? Combine that with corruption, and we never know what we are dealing with, but 98% of the time we can assume it is either incorrect, or misleading, or that the result was paid for. That is a fact. The reality is that the police do not have the talent, resources, expertise, nor motivation to do good work, when it comes to investigation, detective work, forensic work, etc. Wish it were different, but many, many outside experts have testified to these facts. Thailand has a long way to go, when it comes to police work.

What makes it even more embarrassing is that they have one of the biggest Police forces per capita in the entire World.

[spidermike007]

The police here in Thailand are some of the most incompetent outside of Burkina Faso, Guyana, Surinam, and perhaps only a few other places on earth. I have read accounts of British pros, who were brought in to consult on high profile crimes, like the David Carradine incident some time ago, and they tell of a shocking lack of talent in the top departments here, and terrible resources in terms of crime labs, equipment, forensic experts, blood splatter analysis, etc. So, what do we expect? Combine that with corruption, and we never know what we are dealing with, but 98% of the time we can assume it is either incorrect, or misleading, or that the result was paid for. That is a fact. The reality is that the police do not have the talent, resources, expertise, nor motivation to do good work, when it comes to investigation, detective work, forensic work, etc. Wish it were different, but many, many outside experts have testified to these facts. Thailand has a long way to go, when it comes to police work.

What makes it even more embarrassing is that they have one of the biggest Police forces per capita in the entire World.

Yes, it just makes you wonder if, and when Thailand is going to see it's way to move forward in the world. It feels like they are losing traction in nearly any international standard that is used, except perhaps general quality of life here, which is still quite high. But, in terms of building an effective police force, eradicating corruption, reducing import tariffs, easing the difficulty of obtaining long term visas, refining the business act to make it easier for foreigners to do business here, reforming the draconian property ownership laws, etc. etc, etc, there seems to be no forward movement. I believe within 10 or 20 years Thailand runs the risk of being in the lower 25% of Asian nations.