when i told my 9 yr old thai born son that he earns more money on his savings in thailand then in the USA he would not believe me. I have people slag me for choosing to live in a third world country like Thailand yet good business says i must keep my money in banks outside the USA thanks to Obama and his crew.

JT I am a republican and I was an active member of the young democrats when i went to a convention and wittnessed how unflexable my fellow democrat leaders were to any republican idea. i resent being told that i am the same as the democrates when in fact I am rational to see the faults of both parties and able to reason why free enterprise is a better choice for me.

This isn't about you and please don't pretend I am talking about you. It is about the elected republicans leaders and things like the NORQUIST pledge they have signed.

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7419360n

JT I am a republican and I was an active member of the young democrats when i went to a convention and wittnessed how unflexable my fellow democrat leaders were to any republican idea. i resent being told that i am the same as the democrates when in fact I am rational to see the faults of both parties and able to reason why free enterprise is a better choice for me.

This isn't about you and please don't pretend I am talking about you. It is about the elected republicans leaders and things like the NORQUIST pledge they have signed.

http://www.cbsnews.c...ch/?id=7419360n

Do you believe Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi have not been strident in their beliefs?

There are wrongs on both sides of the aisle and if you don't understand that you are being naive.

Yes of course there are wrongs on both sides.

But the democrats are not mostly extreme left wing in the way the republicans are nearly 100 percent extreme right wing.

Look at a key issue: health care.

Obamacare an idea with development directly linked to previous conservative republicans:

Bob Dole

Dick Nixon

Mitt Romney (the old Romney)

now outrageously and falsely demonized by the radical republicans as a government takeover/socialism.

Can any republican today be elected saying they are in favor of Obamacare, a plan with deep roots in THEIR previous party? Today's republicans aren't anything like old style conservative republicans. They are indeed very much far to the RIGHT of them. It is scary really.

Personal note: when I was young I voted once for a republican governor. Those were the days when there were actually some republicans with appeal to lifetime liberals such as myself. Not now. There still are PLENTY of democrats with appeal to conservative voters. Old time conservatives not modern republicans who have indeed become EXTREME.

Also to add on the health care issue, democrats have consistently been interested in expanding health care access to Americans since FDR who was explicitly for a kind of single payer health care system similar to CANADA. Obama with Obamacare brought this long time democratic goal closer but he did it with a conservative, right wing, REPUBLICAN idea. That's all he could do. Some socialist!

Obamacare an idea with development directly linked to previous conservative republicans:

Bob Dole

Dick Nixon

Mitt Romney (the old Romney)

now outrageously and falsely demonized by the radical republicans as a government takeover/socialism.

In last night's debate Romney certainly attacked Obamacare (I don't know exactly what that is, by the way).

My puzzlement was in the final minutes of the debate. As it was three in the morning here in the UK I was not wide-awake enough to question it at the time - but Obama was talking about his grandfather fighting for the US in the Second World War. Which grandfather was this? His father's father, or his mother's father? I have always understood that his mother's family were Irish immigrants, his father was a temporary student. Please clarify for me.

You are expecting true facts from Obama after all this time?

Obamacare an idea with development directly linked to previous conservative republicans:

Bob Dole

Dick Nixon

Mitt Romney (the old Romney)

now outrageously and falsely demonized by the radical republicans as a government takeover/socialism.

In last night's debate Romney certainly attacked Obamacare (I don't know exactly what that is, by the way).

My puzzlement was in the final minutes of the debate. As it was three in the morning here in the UK I was not wide-awake enough to question it at the time - but Obama was talking about his grandfather fighting for the US in the Second World War. Which grandfather was this? His father's father, or his mother's father? I have always understood that his mother's family were Irish immigrants, his father was a temporary student. Please clarify for me.

The grandfather Obama referred to was his maternal grandfather. He was in the furniture business while Obama's maternal grandmother was a Vice President for one of the larger banks in Hawaii.

Obama's paternal grandparents are also addressed in the following link.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Armour_Dunham

My opinion is that Obama hasn't set anything alight during his first term.

Boring would be my assessment....and insular in an international sense.

Not sure if that's good or bad in terms of your voters though.

My opinion is that Obama hasn't set anything alight during his first term.

Boring would be my assessment....and insular in an international sense.

Not sure if that's good or bad in terms of your voters though.

I'd say good comparing to Bush who certainly set Iraq alight.

You also might not be aware of the great progress Obama has made with nuclear weapons reduction agreements with Russia.

Also the strategic shift to Asia to balance China is in the seeding phase. To judge that might take decades.

Global people, BTW, are heavily for Obama. They correctly see Romney in the same mold as Bush -- a disaster.

Of course Israel/Palestine progress has been very disappointing but that's not exactly new. What president can fix that one? Might not exist.

They see Romney in the same mold as Bush because of a multi-million dollar disinformation campaign by a president with no new ideas and a terrible record to run on.

Must admit my gut feeling is a democrat president will be better for us all right now.

Obamacare an idea with development directly linked to previous conservative republicans:

Bob Dole

Dick Nixon

Mitt Romney (the old Romney)

now outrageously and falsely demonized by the radical republicans as a government takeover/socialism.

In last night's debate Romney certainly attacked Obamacare (I don't know exactly what that is, by the way).

My puzzlement was in the final minutes of the debate. As it was three in the morning here in the UK I was not wide-awake enough to question it at the time - but Obama was talking about his grandfather fighting for the US in the Second World War. Which grandfather was this? His father's father, or his mother's father? I have always understood that his mother's family were Irish immigrants, his father was a temporary student. Please clarify for me.

That would have been his mother's father, Stanley Dunham. He was an enlisted man during WWII and served in Europe.

He also said that he was raised by a single mother, which is stretching it a bit. Barak lived with his mother and her Indonesian husband until he was 10 and then was sent to live with his grandparents in Hawaii while he attended an elite prep school.

Splitting hairs. People who want the messy details about his childhood can just read the book.

How much detail should you expect? Should Romney had mentioned his grandparents were polygamist who fled to Mexico to run away from U.S. laws?

My opinion is that Obama hasn't set anything alight during his first term.

Boring would be my assessment....and insular in an international sense.

Not sure if that's good or bad in terms of your voters though.

I'd say good comparing to Bush who certainly set Iraq alight.

You also might not be aware of the great progress Obama has made with nuclear weapons reduction agreements with Russia.

Also the strategic shift to Asia to balance China is in the seeding phase. To judge that might take decades.

Global people, BTW, are heavily for Obama. They correctly see Romney in the same mold as Bush -- a disaster.

Of course Israel/Palestine progress has been very disappointing but that's not exactly new. What president can fix that one? Might not exist.

All of that great progress with Russia on nuclear disarmament might not be as spectacular as you might think. Like most of Obama's decisive actions, these are made of silly putty also.

First there was this:

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Russia Threatens Quitting START Over European Missile Defense Shield

5/18/2011 11:42 AM ET

Russia has threatened to back out from the new Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty (New START) in protest against a revamped U.S. plan to build a missile defense shield in central and eastern Europe.

The Russian threat comes just three months after the long-awaited historic Treaty, which brings down the nuclear stockpiles of the world's two leading nuclear powers considerably, came into force.

Addressing a news conference at the Skolkovo School of Management near Moscow on Wednesday, Russian President Dmitry Medvedev said: "It is clear that the missile defense shield is directed at blocking the strategic capabilities of Russia," as other states the United States identified as possible nuclear threats "do not have Russia's potential and are unlikely to receive them in the coming years."

http://www.rttnews.com/1627126/russia-threatens-quitting-start-over-european-missile-defense-shield.aspx

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Then from a few days ago, there is now this:

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Disturbing News From Russia Confirms Failure of Reset

Anne R. Pierce · Oct 13 at 4:32am

Disturbing news Wednesday received less attention than warranted due to the Vice Presidential debate. Russia announced that it is backing out of a 20-year deal with the United States to dismantle WMDs in areas controlled by the former Soviet Union.

http://ricochet.com/main-feed/Disturbing-News-From-Russia-Confirms-Failure-of-Reset

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What do you think about Ryan's stunt at the soup kitchen?

http://www.5min.com/Video/Soup-Kitchen-President-Criticizes-Paul-Ryan-For-Staged-Photo-Op-517508741

What I find so extraordinary is that the (still) richest and most powerful nation on the world gives its long- suffering voters the choice between a career politician who has failed to deliver up to his rhetoric, or a successful businessman who has majored in flip flops in his political career to such a degree that it is nigh on impossible to ascertain not only what he believes in , but more importantly what actually he would do if voted in.

With one option you wish he would do what he has promised, with the alternative you hope that his utterances were just to massage the base voters!

What do you think about Ryan's stunt at the soup kitchen?

http://www.5min.com/...to-Op-517508741

I think that it is a load of nonsense, like much of the Obama campaign's false propaganda.

Update: Antal, who describes himself as an independent, has voted in Democratic primaries for the past 17 years.

Antal later told NBC News that Ryan had cleaned some dirty dishes; his original comment was based on secondhand information from a volunteer. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/election-2012/wp/2012/10/15/charity-president-unhappy-about-paul-ryan-soup-kitchen-photo-op/

Sure thing, and Dukakis rode in a real tank.

The man with the brutal budget plan, trashing the poor and sending more of them to soup kitchens, making a token quickie photo op appearance at one as if he cares. Are American voters that stupid to buy that?

You do not seem to get the fact that we are going broke. If someone does not come up with a realistic budget paln, we may be Greece some day.

Sure thing, and Dukakis rode in a real tank.

The man with the brutal budget plan, trashing the poor and sending more of them to soup kitchens, making a token quickie photo op appearance at one as if he cares. Are American voters that stupid to buy that?

That Dukakis ad had to the the biggest backfiring of a photo op in history. I remember watching that on the nightly news, laughing because he looked so much like Snoopy fighting the Red Baron, and knowing that the election was over.

You do not seem to get the fact that we are going broke. If someone does not come up with a realistic budget paln, we may be Greece some day.

No "may" about it. But I'm not so convinced that Romney can keep the US from going down the road to default either.

Sure thing, and Dukakis rode in a real tank.

The man with the brutal budget plan, trashing the poor and sending more of them to soup kitchens, making a token quickie photo op appearance at one as if he cares. Are American voters that stupid to buy that?

In response to your last question...It would appear American voters really are that stupid. The results of the 2008 election bear out their stupidity. Hopefully 2012 will undo some of that mistake.

My opinion is that Obama hasn't set anything alight during his first term.

Boring would be my assessment....and insular in an international sense.

Not sure if that's good or bad in terms of your voters though.

I'd say good comparing to Bush who certainly set Iraq alight.

You also might not be aware of the great progress Obama has made with nuclear weapons reduction agreements with Russia.

Also the strategic shift to Asia to balance China is in the seeding phase. To judge that might take decades.

Global people, BTW, are heavily for Obama. They correctly see Romney in the same mold as Bush -- a disaster.

Of course Israel/Palestine progress has been very disappointing but that's not exactly new. What president can fix that one? Might not exist.

If Obama wins, I can't wait to see what he will give away to Putin since we all heard him promise the Russians that after the election he wouldn't be constrained by worrying about what the American people think.

As for, "Global people, BTW, are heavily for Obama.", Americans couldn't give a flying f*** what people around the world think of our politicians nor should we. I'm sure the Aussies, English, Russians, etc don't weigh how popular their politicians are in America before they vote. I'm sure in a lot of countries it isn't considered a good thing that your leader is more popular with people from other countries than he is at home. Why would he/she be? A leader must put the interests of his people and nation first and foremost, that's the job. I'm sure Obama sees himself as leader of the planet but that's not what he's getting paid for.

You do not seem to get the fact that we are going broke. If someone does not come up with a realistic budget paln, we may be Greece some day.

No "may" about it. But I'm not so convinced that Romney can keep the US from going down the road to default either.

Perhaps, but I'm sure that you know what Einstein would have had to to say on voting for Obama again.

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

-Albert Einstein

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The grandfather Obama referred to was his maternal grandfather. He was in the furniture business while Obama's maternal grandmother was a Vice President for one of the larger banks in Hawaii.

Obama's paternal grandparents are also addressed in the following link.

http://en.wikipedia....y_Armour_Dunham

Thanks - interesting in several ways.

You do not seem to get the fact that we are going broke. If someone does not come up with a realistic budget paln, we may be Greece some day.

No "may" about it. But I'm not so convinced that Romney can keep the US from going down the road to default either.

Perhaps, but I'm sure that you know what Einstein would have had to to say on voting for Obama again.

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

-Albert Einstein

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At least during he debate Romney mentioned "the road to Greece" but generally neither candidate talks about a strategy for servicing the national debt and whether "quantitative easing to infinity" is wise monetary policy.

Ahead of Election, Obama Stops Releasing ‘Stimulus’ Reports

The $831,000,000,000 economic “stimulus” that President Obama spearheaded and signed into law requires his administration to release quarterly reports on its effects. But “

” is now four reports behind schedule and has so far not released any reports whatsoever in 2012. Its most recent quarterly report is for the quarter than ended on June 30, 2011.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/ahead-election-obama-stops-releasing-stimulus-reports_654968.html

I just saw this film tonight. Very interesting take on what makes Obama ticks...

http://2016themovie.com/

So if Romney wins by 5 percent and Obama is elected, how do you think the country will react? Because such an extreme thing is now looking actually possible. Obama is ahead in every region but the South. But in the South Romney is so way ahead that he could win the popular vote.

So if Romney wins by 5 percent and Obama is elected, how do you think the country will react? Because such an extreme thing is now looking actually possible. Obama is ahead in every region but the South. But in the South Romney is so way ahead that he could win the popular vote.

I think that the result would be accepted, albeit with a lot of grumbling and probably for the next 4 years you'll hear about the illegitimacy of the last election. Today's right-wingers are not revolutionaries, they are not going to be rioting in the streets and lighting cities ablaze, about the most extreme things that you could expect would be that Fox News would mount a campaign to do away with the Electoral College.