This addresses the issue of Romney clearly saying he WOULD NOT have gone into PAKISTAN as Obama did. Now y'all are trying to rewrite history and act like Romney didn't say that. You know perfectly well if a right wing president had gotten BL it would have been huge, yet disgustingly you give NO CREDIT to Obama, and you even mock and deride him. Shameful hypocrisy as its worse:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYykD6_OHO0&feature=player_embedded

This addresses the issue of Romney clearly saying he WOULD NOT have gone into PAKISTAN as Obama did. Now y'all are trying to rewrite history and act like Romney didn't say that. You know perfectly well if a right wing president had gotten BL it would have been huge, yet disgustingly you give NO CREDIT to Obama, and you even mock and deride him. Shameful hypocrisy as its worse:

[media=]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYykD6_OHO0&feature=player_embedded[/media]

Funny you post a video of Bill Clinton, the man who - even AFTER the bin Laden kill - called Obama an amateur.

Some more solid points...

Before Mitt Romney entered politics, he started up and successfully ran a private-equity shop. He turned money-losing companies around, partly by firing surplus employees. Before Barack Obama entered politics, he was a community organizer, then a lawyer. The firm where he worked in the 1990s specialized in civil-rights litigation and neighborhood economic development. Visit Chicago to see how well that went.

The president wants this election to be the White House vs. Wall Street. But if it’s really Harvard Business School vs. Harvard Law School, I’ll take the M.B.A. over the J.D. every time.

The only jobs lawyers ever create are for other lawyers. And if you don’t believe me, you clearly haven’t read Dodd-Frank.

http://www.thedailyb...Tina Brown List

This addresses the issue of Romney clearly saying he WOULD NOT have gone into PAKISTAN as Obama did.

He would have gone into Pakistan to get Bin Ladin - any president would.

What's really interesting is that Clinton had Bin Laden in his sights during his presidency and failed to take the proper action to get him. We wouldn't have had some of these problems if Clinton had acted appropriately.

JT:

My thoughts are that many people resent the speech Obama made when announcing the death of Bin Laden. His use of the first person "I" was prominent throughout his speech, as though this entire operation was the direct result of his personal actions.

Obama said he would not "spike the football" yet he seems to have done the exact opposite. It will distract a few people from his economic policies and lack of management skills but, in the end, will have little influence on the prime topic of this campaign, which is the economy.

Following is just one paragraph from his speech:

"Then, last August, after years of painstaking work by our intelligence community, I was briefed on a possible lead to bin Laden. It was far from certain, and it took many months to run this thread to ground. I met repeatedly with my national security team as we developed more information about the possibility that we had located bin Laden hiding within a compound deep inside of Pakistan. And finally, last week, I determined that we had enough intelligence to take action, and authorized an operation to get Osama bin Laden and bring him to justice."

By comparison, this is what Bush said after the capture of Saddam Hussein:

"The success of yesterday's mission is a tribute to our men and women now serving in Iraq. The operation was based on the superb work of intelligence analysts who found the dictator's footprints in a vast country. The operation was carried out with skill and precision by a brave fighting force. Our servicemen and women and our coalition allies have faced many dangers in the hunt for members of the fallen regime, and in their effort to bring hope and freedom to the Iraqi people. Their work continues, and so do the risks. Today, on behalf of the nation, I thank the members of our Armed Forces and I congratulate them."

Quite a different approach between giving credit or taking credit.

http://www.whitehous...-bin-laden-dead

http://georgewbush-w...20031214-3.html

From today's Drudge Report, more on Obama's management skills. Now he's upset the Harley owners.

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Brief Obama meet for Rolling Thunder delegation this year

By Jennifer Harper

May 25, 2012, 03:29PM

Rolling Thunder made it to the White House this year. But the experience for the motorcycle-riding patriots was more clinical photo op than heartfelt meeting with President Obama, members of the group said Friday.

"Well, we had a good meeting with [Mr. Obama's] staff and a defense official. But we were supposed to have time with the president," founder and Executive National Director Artie Muller told The Washington Times in an interview after the meeting.

"When we were there in the past, the president himself talked to us about the issues that concern us — veterans' health care, the fate of prisoners of war, and those missing in action. This was more or less a handshake and a photo op for the White House — and that's all it was," Mr. Muller said.

http://www.washingto...tion-this-year/

.... Like I said before, a president that can't work one day a week for religious reasons doesn't cut it.

But apparently one that doesn't work seven days a week because he is fund raising doesn't seem to bother you.

I notice Obama's schedule for Memorial Day is blank. No ceremony scheduled to honor fallen military from past wars. I wonder if he will play golf or if he is too exhausted after his trips out West?

http://www.whitehous...dent/2012-05-28

Just picked this up off Yahoo news. Obama did show up on Memorial Day after all. His golf game was Saturday.

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Obama says Vietnam veterans too often 'denigrated'

By KEN THOMAS | Associated Press – 8 hrs ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama paid tribute Monday to the men and women who have died defending America, pointing to Vietnam veterans as an under-appreciated and sometimes maligned group of war heroes who remained true to their nation despite an unwelcome homecoming.

"You were sometimes blamed for the misdeeds of a few," Obama said at the Vietnam War Memorial. "You came home and were sometimes denigrated when you should have been celebrated. It was a national shame, a disgrace that should have never happened."

http://news.yahoo.co...eXBhZ2U-;_ylv=3

My thoughts are that many people resent the speech Obama made when announcing the death of Bin Laden. His use of the first person "I" was prominent throughout his speech, as though this entire operation was the direct result of his personal actions.

Obama said he would not "spike the football" yet he seems to have done the exact opposite. It will distract a few people from his economic policies and lack of management skills but, in the end, will have little influence on the prime topic of this campaign, which is the economy.

Following is just one paragraph from his speech:

"Then, last August, after years of painstaking work by our intelligence community, I was briefed on a possible lead to bin Laden. It was far from certain, and it took many months to run this thread to ground. I met repeatedly with my national security team as we developed more information about the possibility that we had located bin Laden hiding within a compound deep inside of Pakistan. And finally, last week, I determined that we had enough intelligence to take action, and authorized an operation to get Osama bin Laden and bring him to justice."

By comparison, this is what Bush said after the capture of Saddam Hussein:

"The success of yesterday's mission is a tribute to our men and women now serving in Iraq. The operation was based on the superb work of intelligence analysts who found the dictator's footprints in a vast country. The operation was carried out with skill and precision by a brave fighting force. Our servicemen and women and our coalition allies have faced many dangers in the hunt for members of the fallen regime, and in their effort to bring hope and freedom to the Iraqi people. Their work continues, and so do the risks. Today, on behalf of the nation, I thank the members of our Armed Forces and I congratulate them."

Quite a different approach between giving credit or taking credit.

http://www.whitehous...-bin-laden-dead

http://georgewbush-w...20031214-3.html

These two examples illustrate what to do and not to do in a leadership position. One of the important characteristics of a good leader is to give credit where credit is due. Even the Bush-bashers out there with successful leadership/management experience know this to be true though I don't expect any acknowledgement from them to be given on these pages. Whatever faults Bush had, and he certainly had them, he was a far superior leader than Obama ever will be.

Yet more talk about the obvious which you can deny until you're blue in the face, but it's true, Romney if elected will not be ABLE to govern as a moderate even if he wanted to. Face reality.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/why-president-romney-would-not-govern-as-a-moderate/2012/05/31/gJQAIVTQ4U_blog.html

This also means that whoever takes office in January will be constrained into carrying out his party’s agenda on everything — social issues included. Which in turn means that anyone who thinks a President Romney would have the leeway to govern as a moderate is kidding himself.

Yet more talk about the obvious which you can deny until you're blue in the face, but it's true, Romney if elected will not be ABLE to govern as a moderate even if he wanted to. Face reality.

http://www.washingto...VTQ4U_blog.html

This also means that whoever takes office in January will be constrained into carrying out his party’s agenda on everything — social issues included. Which in turn means that anyone who thinks a President Romney would have the leeway to govern as a moderate is kidding himself.

Wouldn't many people rather take a chance on Romney being a moderate than facing another four years of the proven liberal that is currently occupying the White House?

That's what the choice will be for the voters.

Yet more talk about the obvious which you can deny until you're blue in the face, but it's true, Romney if elected will not be ABLE to govern as a moderate even if he wanted to. Face reality.

http://www.washingto...VTQ4U_blog.html

This also means that whoever takes office in January will be constrained into carrying out his party’s agenda on everything — social issues included. Which in turn means that anyone who thinks a President Romney would have the leeway to govern as a moderate is kidding himself.

The opposite is true of Obama. If the voters base their decision on this in the voting booth, Obama will be trounced in November.

Nope. You're wrong. Obama is center left and the furthest left he can hope to govern from in his second term is center left. Romney is running as a far right candidate. So maybe he'll govern from the right or far right. He will nowhere near the center. Independents mostly ARE near the center. Independents will do better with Obama if they can get the message about Romney will be forced to be. What Romney really is has proven totally irrelevant in that strange man's political career.

Nope. You're wrong. Obama is center left and the furthest left he can hope to govern from in his second term is center left. Romney is running as a far right candidate. So maybe he'll govern from the right or far right. He will nowhere near the center. Independents mostly ARE near the center. Independents will do better with Obama if they can get the message about Romney will be forced to be. What Romney really is has proven totally irrelevant in that strange man's political career.

...and Obama has been proven to be a virtual mountain of jello.

Nope. You're wrong. Obama is center left and the furthest left he can hope to govern from in his second term is center left. Romney is running as a far right candidate. So maybe he'll govern from the right or far right. He will nowhere near the center. Independents mostly ARE near the center. Independents will do better with Obama if they can get the message about Romney will be forced to be. What Romney really is has proven totally irrelevant in that strange man's political career.

...and Obama has been proven to be a virtual mountain of jello.

If Obama is jello, what is Romney? Santorum?

Nope. You're wrong. Obama is center left and the furthest left he can hope to govern from in his second term is center left. Romney is running as a far right candidate. So maybe he'll govern from the right or far right. He will nowhere near the center. Independents mostly ARE near the center. Independents will do better with Obama if they can get the message about Romney will be forced to be. What Romney really is has proven totally irrelevant in that strange man's political career.

...and Obama has been proven to be a virtual mountain of jello.

If Obama is jello, what is Romney? Santorum?

Romney is a very successful business man, one time Chairman of the US Olympic Committee and former Governor of Massachusetts.

Santorum is just another politician and they are a dime a dozen.

Obama's qualifications are...besides being just another dime a dozen politician, that is.

Nope. You're wrong. Obama is center left and the furthest left he can hope to govern from in his second term is center left. Romney is running as a far right candidate. So maybe he'll govern from the right or far right. He will nowhere near the center. Independents mostly ARE near the center. Independents will do better with Obama if they can get the message about Romney will be forced to be. What Romney really is has proven totally irrelevant in that strange man's political career.

...and Obama has been proven to be a virtual mountain of jello.

If Obama is jello, what is Romney? Santorum?

Romney is a very successful business man, one time Chairman of the US Olympic Committee and former Governor of Massachusetts.

Obama's qualifications are????

A man who ran a business vulture firm, trashing jobs and sending them overseas. OK, with the Olympics. Failed governor of Massachusetts, failed in job creation, didn't meet his promises to voters, and left office with very low approval ratings, much lower than Obama's ratings as president. I like his Romneycare program though and so did Obama. Now he wants to trash it. Romney is NOT an attractive candidate.

...and Obama has been proven to be a virtual mountain of jello.

If Obama is jello, what is Romney? Santorum?

Romney is a very successful business man, one time Chairman of the US Olympic Committee and former Governor of Massachusetts.

Obama's qualifications are????

A man who ran a business vulture firm, trashing jobs and sending them overseas. OK, with the Olympics. Failed governor of Massachusetts, failed in job creation, didn't meet his promises to voters, and left office with very low approval ratings, much lower than Obama's ratings as president. I like his Romneycare program though and so did Obama. Now he wants to trash it. Romney is NOT an attractive candidate.

Yet Obama is standing around all these business vultures with his palm out, begging for alms for his reelection. They must not ALL be bad.

Obama is a venture capitalist but he is doing it with taxpayer money...just not nearly as successfully as Romney. There's this thing called experience that just keeps popping up when Obama's name comes up.

Nope. You're wrong. Obama is center left and the furthest left he can hope to govern from in his second term is center left. Romney is running as a far right candidate. So maybe he'll govern from the right or far right. He will nowhere near the center. Independents mostly ARE near the center.

Obama's policies are not near the center. He governs as a closet Marxist would and that can be explained by his past associations and his own biography. Can you list any policies of Obama's in the past three years that would be considered in the center? Of course, if you look at it from your far left perspective, EVERYTHING he has done is in the center but that's not how it would play out in reality.

Romney has been in a battle for the Republican Party nomination. He had to move to the right in the primaries, to show that he was in fact conservative. He needed to do that because his political history shows that as far as conservative Republicans are concerned, Romney is Center Left. He needed to convince them he wasn't. The risk for Republicans is that Romney won't really change his left leanings, that if he wins in November he'll be a RINO (Republican in Name Only). That's why it took him so long to win the nomination and why he lost so many states. Intelligent liberals who have a clue know this to be true. Newbies to American politics won't figure it out though.

Romney isn't anything certain except being a very good Mormon with all that implies politically, which includes an extreme form of American exceptionalism and anti-gay dogmas. That's the point. He can only win by sucking up to the far right base. They will demand and will get payback.

Obama pretends to be center left, but it is only to get reelected. All you have to do is look at the positions he has taken in office - supporting Occupy Wall Street, supporting the Ground Zero Mosque, etc. - as well his sympathies before being elected. There is no telling what kind of nutty left-wing policies he will initiate without an election hanging over his head.

Obama pretends to be center left, but it is only to get reelected. All you have to do is look at the positions he has taken in office - supporting Occupy Wall Street, supporting the Ground Zero Mosque, etc. - as well his sympathies before being elected. There is no telling what kind of nutty left-wing policies he will initiate without an election hanging over his head.

Fear mongering. Even if he did, he couldn't pass them, so you're making a lot of noise over nothing.

First Bill Clinton is reported to have called Obama amateur. Now he is torpedoing the Obama's main attack on Romney. Whose side is he on anyway?

http://www.politico....ing-124980.html

President Bill Clinton veered sharply off message Thursday, telling CNN that Mitt Romney's business record at Bain Capital was "sterling."

"I don't think that we ought to get into the position where we say 'This is bad work. This is good work,'" Clinton said. "The man who has been governor and had a sterling business career crosses the qualification threshold."

Clinton also went on to say that Romney's time at Bain Capital represented a "good business career."

Obama pretends to be center left, but it is only to get reelected. All you have to do is look at the positions he has taken in office - supporting Occupy Wall Street, supporting the Ground Zero Mosque, etc. - as well his sympathies before being elected. There is no telling what kind of nutty left-wing policies he will initiate without an election hanging over his head.

Fear mongering. Even if he did, he couldn't pass them, so you're making a lot of noise over nothing.

Is that the same thing you are doing? Only about Romney?

Obama pretends to be center left, but it is only to get reelected. All you have to do is look at the positions he has taken in office - supporting Occupy Wall Street, supporting the Ground Zero Mosque, etc. - as well his sympathies before being elected. There is no telling what kind of nutty left-wing policies he will initiate without an election hanging over his head.

Fear mongering. Even if he did, he couldn't pass them, so you're making a lot of noise over nothing.

Is that the same thing you are doing? Only about Romney?

I believe my fear about Romney is more based on REALITY.

Obama pretends to be center left, but it is only to get reelected. All you have to do is look at the positions he has taken in office - supporting Occupy Wall Street, supporting the Ground Zero Mosque, etc. - as well his sympathies before being elected. There is no telling what kind of nutty left-wing policies he will initiate without an election hanging over his head.

Fear mongering. Even if he did, he couldn't pass them, so you're making a lot of noise over nothing.

Is that the same thing you are doing? Only about Romney?

I believe my fear about Romney is more based on REALITY.

Your fear of Romney seems to me to be based on the fact he is a Mormon and the Mormon church opposed and theoretically helped pass proposition 8 in California last year. Please correct me if I am wrong.

Getting back to more economic news affecting the election. The following items picked off the Drudge Report today:

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U.S. job growth trips again, opens door to more Fed moves

By Lucia Mutikani

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. job growth braked sharply for a third straight month in May and the unemployment rate rose for the first time in nearly a year, raising chances of further monetary stimulus from the Federal Reserve to support the sputtering recovery.

Employers added a paltry 69,000 jobs to their payrolls last month, the least since May of last year, and 49,000 fewer jobs were created in the previous two months than had been thought, the Labor Department said on Friday.

The report is troubling for President Barack Obama, whose prospects of winning re-election in November could hinge on the economy's health. Republican opponent Mitt Romney called the report "a harsh indictment" of Obama's policies.

Read more here: http://finance.yahoo...-123604088.html

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...and here:

Grim Job Report Sinks Markets

Payrolls Rise by Just 69,000; Jobless Rate Ticks Up to 8.2%

By JOSH MITCHELL

Feeble hiring by U.S. employers in May roiled markets and dimmed the already-cloudy outlook for an economy that appears to be following Europe and Asia into a slowdown.

Employers added a seasonally adjusted 69,000 jobs last month, the smallest increase in a year, and estimates for the two previous months were lowered. The politically salient unemployment rate inched up to 8.2% from 8.1% in April, and the report immediately became a flash point in a presidential race focused on the candidates' job-creating credentials. President Barack Obama and Republican nominee Mitt Romney sparred over the numbers in back-to-back appearances where each made his case to voters.

Entire article here: http://online.wsj.co...e_largeHeadline

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...and finally:

Stocks Log Worst Day in 2012; Vix Surges 10%

Published: Friday, 1 Jun 2012 | 5:09 PM ET

By: Jeff Cox, JeeYeon Park

Stocks suffered their worst day of the year, with the Dow tumbling into negative territory for 2012, after a disappointing jobs report in addition to dismal data from China and Europe fueled fears over the health of the global economy.

Whether the stock selloff continues through the summer "really depends on the government," said Doug Roberts, managing partner at Channel Capital Research. "If [the Fed] starts making news about QE3, than you can start to see this [selloff] is going to be relatively short-lived."

Read more here: http://www.cnbc.com/id/47645265

Over three years of above 8% unemployment? Gas prices nearly doubled in that time? Obama is toast in November.

Agreed. After the disastrous jobs report today, Obama is out.

Agreed. After the disastrous jobs report today, Obama is out.

I agree it is bad political news for Obama. It's going to be a very hotly contested election, that's for sure. I think this increases the chances Obama will dump Biden for someone else, not necessarily Clinton. Clinton doesn't want to be secy of state anyway for four more years. Give that job to Biden.

Your fear of Romney seems to me to be based on the fact he is a Mormon and the Mormon church opposed and theoretically helped pass proposition 8 in California last year. Please correct me if I am wrong.

You're wrong.

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