Obesity hastens cognitive decline... a study shows....

And here's the link!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-19323061

Fat and stupid. I knew this already.

Fat and stupid. I knew this already.

I hadn't realised I was stupid till you pointed it out. Are you sure?

SC

Fat and stupid. I knew this already.

I hadn't realised I was stupid till you pointed it out. Are you sure?

SC

I'm talking BMI greater than 40. Use the chart here....http://www.nhlbisupport.com/bmi/

Fat and stupid. I knew this already.

I hadn't realised I was stupid till you pointed it out. Are you sure?

SC

I'm talking BMI greater than 40. Use the chart here....http://www.nhlbisupport.com/bmi/

Are we to stop calling everyone overweight, or just the fat bastarts?

SC

Fat and stupid. I knew this already.

I hadn't realised I was stupid till you pointed it out. Are you sure?

SC

I'm talking BMI greater than 40. Use the chart here....http://www.nhlbisupport.com/bmi/

Are we to stop calling everyone overweight, or just the fat bastarts?

SC

Its people who are overweight because they eat too much that I really don't like or tolerate.

I mean I can understand wanting to drink too much and not exercise....its the utopian dream for many lazy buggers....but eating too much?

Yuk...that is just gross....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/12120689

It's an old article, and an old thread, but I thought you might like the pictures!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/12120689

It's an old article, and an old thread, but I thought you might like the pictures!

The guy states that he was eating 40 chocolate bars a day, among all the fast food meals, etc.

The cure to me was simple - stop eating the bloody things! Don't buy them.

This is self-inflicted ill-health and I have no sympathy for him. The fact that my contributions to the NHS helped save his life is a bitter pill to swallow.

Really, any health treatment obese people receive should be on private prescription, not wasting valuable NHS time and money on idiots - self-centred idiots, at that.

Rant over (for now).

Best diet in the world, works every time....

The EL GOYA program.

Not some fancy Spanish meat-only, cabbage soup, no carb BS

Just:

Eat Less, Get Off Your Ass

Best diet in the world, works every time....

The EL GOYA program.

Not some fancy Spanish meat-only, cabbage soup, no carb BS

Just:

Eat Less, Get Off Your Ass

But did you see the photos in the article IB posted? No way could he get off his ass.

There are regular programmes on British TV these days, showing the medical treatment of obscenely obese people in the UK. They regularly break down walls and use cranes to get these people off their beds. I'd just brick 'em in.

Best diet in the world, works every time....

The EL GOYA program.

Not some fancy Spanish meat-only, cabbage soup, no carb BS

Just:

Eat Less, Get Off Your Ass

But did you see the photos in the article IB posted? No way could he get off his ass.

There are regular programmes on British TV these days, showing the medical treatment of obscenely obese people in the UK. They regularly break down walls and use cranes to get these people off their beds. I'd just brick 'em in.

like this girl >? - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2153968/Teenage-girl-cut-house-loses-stone-WEEK.html

At least she's clothed! The one I posted, from a much classier source, was naked apart from a pair of glasses.

What I should like to know is who pays for all the food such people eat.

At least she's clothed! The one I posted, from a much classier source, was naked apart from a pair of glasses.

What I should like to know is who pays for all the food such people eat.

Mainly the government !

At least she's clothed! The one I posted, from a much classier source, was naked apart from a pair of glasses.

What I should like to know is who pays for all the food such people eat.

I assume it's the taxpayer, because he cannot work and is thus on various benefits - job-seekers allowance, housing benefit, disabled allowances, etc., etc.

I am not an expert on these things - I've been back in the UK for about nine months and am still looking as to how to claim old-age pension, let alone any other benefit. I did find out the other day that, being over retirement age, I am entitled to free medical prescriptions, so that's a good thing.

At least she's clothed! The one I posted, from a much classier source, was naked apart from a pair of glasses.

What I should like to know is who pays for all the food such people eat.

I assume it's the taxpayer, because he cannot work and is thus on various benefits - job-seekers allowance, housing benefit, disabled allowances, etc., etc.

I am not an expert on these things - I've been back in the UK for about nine months and am still looking as to how to claim old-age pension, let alone any other benefit. I did find out the other day that, being over retirement age, I am entitled to free medical prescriptions, so that's a good thing.

dont forget the Free Bus Pass !!!

The bus passes are being withdrawn in some areas Boater!

The trouble with the NHS is it has become mother to an entire generation of adult slobs. If these people knew they were going to be let on the street to die in the end then they would take better decisions on health issues.

Some not all but there needs to be a middle way in the UK.

It will happen I believe...within the next decade.

I don't think that the obscenely huge are a significant problem in the UK (I suppose I have quite relaxed views on obscenity, though); Very few people 'want' to be bed-ridden. What we do have is a society where 'right' is viewed as 'entitlement' rather than 'obligation'. I'm surprised by how stratified British society has become - the difference between the people I know there, and the archetypal 'Hoodie' neds and immigrants that so many of our co-posters tell us about.

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I did find out the other day that, being over retirement age, I am entitled to free medical prescriptions, so that's a good thing.

You get free scripts if you're over 60.

And getting back to the gross and revolting caricatures of human beings that we see filling up the whole sidewalk (and half the road ...), we can now view them in the zoo :-

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/9649738/Obesity-crisis-will-force-hospitals-to-use-super-size-MRI-scanners-at-zoos.html

Obesity crisis 'will force hospitals to use super-size MRI scanners at zoos'

NHS hospitals will have to use scanners from zoos because they are unable to cope with severely overweight patients, surgeons have predicted.

Many hospitals have failed to invest in 'supersize’ equipment suited to morbidly obese patients, they said. Investigations by surgeons at North Bristol NHS Trust found only one in six hospitals had access to MRI or CT scanners capable of taking the heaviest patients, weighing over 35 stone.

As an emergency measure, they will need to rely on scanners usually operated by vets as Britain’s obesity crisis means dealing with severely overweight patients becomes more routine.

Hospitals in the US are already calling zoos to use their scanners - built for lions, gorillas, horses and cattle.

Writing in The Royal College of Surgeons of England Bulletin, Sally Norton, a consultant bariatric surgeon, warned: “Failure to provide required imaging may lead to delay in diagnosis or inappropriate surgery – and, occasionally, enquiries into the potential use of veterinary or zoological scanners, with resultant loss of dignity for the patient.”

It was not just a patient’s weight that could be a problem, she noted: “In addition, abdominal girth may be too great for the aperture of the scanner.”

Ms Norton said: “In the US, hospitals are ringing up zoos to ask, 'Can we use your scanner?

“Our obesity problem is going the way of the US, so it could happen here too.”

CT and MRI scanners are essential to identify a wide variety of medical problems, from stroke to soft tissue joint injury.

In January a medic claimed London hospitals were sending very fat patients to be scanned at London Zoo and The Royal Veterinary College, although both organisations denied it was true.

Since 1993 the numbers of morbidly obese adults in Britain has tripled from about 450,000 to 1.4 million, according to the National Obesity Observatory.

Being morbidly obese means having a body mass index (BMI) of at least 40, which for someone who is 5ft 9in, equates to weighing 19st 7lb or more.

Ms Norton and colleagues found almost half of British hospitals are inadequately prepared to deal with extremely fat patients, despite growing numbers of people who are morbidly obese.

Besides scanners, they also lack wheelchairs or beds that are big and strong enough - or even patient gowns that will cover their full girth.

Ms Norton said hospitals were failing to keep pace with the changing shape of society because they had so many other things to deal with.

She and colleagues who conducted a survey of 18 hospitals in south west England found only half had cubicles designed to accommodate extremely heavy patients, and many lacked “adequately sized gowns to preserve dignity”.

Standard hospital beds are only designed to take 28 stone, wheelchairs 25 stone and examination couches 21 stone.

Only 39 per cent of theatre departments surveyed had a specific policy for the care of bariatric patients.

There were instances of equipment collapsing and leaving patients injured, she said, while staff could also hurt themselves trying to move them.

Ms Norton added that, while many hospitals claimed to have policies and equipment for coping with the morbidly obese, in practice doctors and nurses often did not know they existed or had no access to them.

The “biggest problem” was when such a patient turned up at 2am, she noted.

“If you’ve got time to plan you can get super-size beds and hoists set up, but you don’t often have that luxury.”

She said: “The current challenges in managing the increasing population of morbidly obese patients must be addressed.

“Failure to provide adequate equipment and appropriate management of obese patients could result in their safety being compromised and injury to both patients and staff”.

Their report is published as new NHS figures are released showing that the number of patients undergoing weight-loss surgery has risen nearly five-fold since 2007, to 8,600.000.

So, if it'll take a rhinoceros, it may also fit the current generation of unemployables.

I say, send them to the Zoo. It gives a new meaning to the word 'elephantine'. I don't give a *@# for their dignity.

In general, I sympathise with anyone who has to have an MRI scan. I felt as if I was being fed into a crematorium! The whole report adds point to those of us who have complained that the cost of medical services has been sharply increased to cater for grossly obese people, most of wh​om are responsible for their own condition.

As a fat man in paradise my feeling is that people should have the guilt free ability to say someone is fat the same as they are able to call under weight people skinny. Too much PC in the world for my taste

My opinion, if anyone ever takes any notice, is that people with a BMI over (say) 30 should be charged for each use of te NHS - on a sliding scale.

In the article it states the weights for which some items of standard medical equipment are designed. If it becomes necessary to get non-standard kit in, then a portion of the cost should be recovered through each use.

And these people who have to be broken out of their homes should pay the full cost of their treatment, including the crane, wrecking ball, 20-tonne taxi and so on - prior to treatment. No pay, no play. Let them rot.

My opinion, if anyone ever takes any notice, is that people with a BMI over (say) 30 should be charged for each use of te NHS - on a sliding scale.

In the article it states the weights for which some items of standard medical equipment are designed. If it becomes necessary to get non-standard kit in, then a portion of the cost should be recovered through each use.

And these people who have to be broken out of their homes should pay the full cost of their treatment, including the crane, wrecking ball, 20-tonne taxi and so on - prior to treatment. No pay, no play. Let them rot.

Same as people that suffer sporting injuries

My opinion, if anyone ever takes any notice, is that people with a BMI over (say) 30 should be charged for each use of te NHS - on a sliding scale.

In the article it states the weights for which some items of standard medical equipment are designed. If it becomes necessary to get non-standard kit in, then a portion of the cost should be recovered through each use.

And these people who have to be broken out of their homes should pay the full cost of their treatment, including the crane, wrecking ball, 20-tonne taxi and so on - prior to treatment. No pay, no play. Let them rot.

Same as people that suffer sporting injuries

So long as the categories excluded don't include me, I don't mind who you exclude!

Isn't that, honestly, most people's viewpoint? Not, of course, posters on OTB.

My opinion, if anyone ever takes any notice, is that people with a BMI over (say) 30 should be charged for each use of te NHS - on a sliding scale.

In the article it states the weights for which some items of standard medical equipment are designed. If it becomes necessary to get non-standard kit in, then a portion of the cost should be recovered through each use.

And these people who have to be broken out of their homes should pay the full cost of their treatment, including the crane, wrecking ball, 20-tonne taxi and so on - prior to treatment. No pay, no play. Let them rot.

Same as people that suffer sporting injuries

So long as the categories excluded don't include me, I don't mind who you exclude!

Isn't that, honestly, most people's viewpoint? Not, of course, posters on OTB.

I'm sure there's categories we could exclude that would save a lot more money than the grossly overweight. Perhaps people older than me. I mean older than I'll be tomorrow, or next year or some time.

SC

I'm listing all the posters in order of weight - estimated from the responses on this thread and others regarding eating habits, etc.

When I publish it I would like all readers to confirm (or not) the accuracy of my estimates.

I'm listing all the posters in order of weight - estimated from the responses on this thread and others regarding eating habits, etc.

When I publish it I would like all readers to confirm (or not) the accuracy of my estimates.

Should one 'fess up, or hope he doesn't spot us?

Unfortunately I think I've already posted my weight!

I'm listing all the posters in order of weight - estimated from the responses on this thread and others regarding eating habits, etc.

When I publish it I would like all readers to confirm (or not) the accuracy of my estimates.

We'll need to know the weight of the other ranked members, though, to know if we are correctly placed with respect to them.

And by the way, he ain't heavy, he's my brother....

SC

100 laps this morning followed by a bacon butty....what a life eh?

Come on Humph....you must have the scales of justice out now....quite appropriate this week!