Manchester United

[bkkjames]

Good to see cleverly back in action, goals by berba, owen and valencia.

[smokie36]

Good to see cleverly back in action, goals by berba, owen and valencia.

Cleverly, who, who and err who???

[carmine]

Good to see cleverly back in action, goals by berba, owen and valencia.

Cleverly, who, who and err who???

I'd buy Berba back for 3m.

[smokie36]

Good to see cleverly back in action, goals by berba, owen and valencia.

Cleverly, who, who and err who???

I'd buy Berba back for 3m.

Buy him back?? Nah let's take him on a free....

[bkkjames]

Children...remember Cleverly, the cog in our midfield that was hammering 8 past Arse and then when he got hacked down from behind by that thug Davies, we have sputtered.

I see Roma will give us 15 million for Ferdinand according to the papers. Ok, give us De Rossi (is he still there ) and its a deal!

[carmine]

Children...remember Cleverly, the cog in our midfield that was hammering 8 past Arse and then when he got hacked down from behind by that thug Davies, we have sputtered.

I see Roma will give us 15 million for Ferdinand according to the papers. Ok, give us De Rossi (is he still there ) and its a deal!

If they offer 5m i'd be happy to take it james.

As i said he's become rather a liabilty and his attitude isn't right by the looks of things. When you have the talent of Smalling and Jones i'd keep Ferdinand on the bench and use them.. that aside, any player that comes out with a comment like "i don't want the young players to be in awe of me" is a cock in my book. i think the situation Ferguson has is compounded by the fact that Evans seems to be viewed as a major weaklink too.

[bkkjames]

Children...remember Cleverly, the cog in our midfield that was hammering 8 past Arse and then when he got hacked down from behind by that thug Davies, we have sputtered.

I see Roma will give us 15 million for Ferdinand according to the papers. Ok, give us De Rossi (is he still there ) and its a deal!

If they offer 5m i'd be happy to take it james.

As i said he's become rather a liabilty and his attitude isn't right by the looks of things. When you have the talent of Smalling and Jones i'd keep Ferdinand on the bench and use them.. that aside, any player that comes out with a comment like "i don't want the young players to be in awe of me" is a cock in my book. i think the situation Ferguson has is compounded by the fact that Evans seems to be viewed as a major weaklink too.

Unlike others I am not afraid to call a spade a spade : in this case meaning weak link = evans. Why we continue to select him is beyond me. Kinda like Gibson.

Everyone goes on about him being youngish and still learning - I dont buy it. Evans has been here for several years now and has not improved - in fact has gone backwards IMO. Ferdinand hasnt got the pace anymore. We need to shore up RB and LB positions as the twins seem very injury prone, this is keeping Jones / Smalling from being able to fit in fulltime at CB.

The other issue I have with us is we play a wide game with lots of crosses into the box but Rooney and Hernandez aren't exactly big CF's so too many balls are easily cleared by opposition CBs. Combined with a dearth in attacking CM or someone to pick up the loose balls from said set-pieces and do something with it (like hitting the target) and we struggle. Cleverly has shown earlier this year that unlike a carrick / fletcher, he thinks attack first and turns to pass forward - a bit like Paul did. Since he was injured our attack has sputtered.

Oh, I don't remember the last time one of our forwards has scored from a corner.

Anyways, all doom and gloom and we are fading fast

[MrRed]

Always said that we needed a play-maker like Wesley,i think it is showing now but hey-ho maybe once we get an established centre back pairing it will again give confidence to the rest of the team to start showing the attacking flair that undeniably they have.

The thing that nobody has picked up on was that Rooney had a stinker against City and looked very average his work rate is always good but attacking wise he was very below his normal self,hopefully he gets the help from his team mates stepping up also in the next few games starting against Everton!

We still need to sign a attacking midfielder that is top drawer especially for Europe.

[mrbojangles]

The thing that nobody has picked up on was that Rooney had a stinker against City

Personally, I thought he was the only one who showed any passion and knew what it meant.

[bkkjames]

I thought nani was his usual skizzo self, like a box of chocolates really....

[MrRed]

The thing that nobody has picked up on was that Rooney had a stinker against City

Personally, I thought he was the only one who showed any passion and knew what it meant.

yes passion in abundance but no creativity from him.

[smokie36]

We still need to sign a attacking midfielder that is top drawer especially for Europe.

Sir improved the team and Young looks a great signing but that is a surprise to me as well I must admit. Maybe he'll see the light in January but the cost will be silly money......

[MrRed]

We still need to sign a attacking midfielder that is top drawer especially for Europe.

Sir improved the team and Young looks a great signing but that is a surprise to me as well I must admit. Maybe he'll see the light in January but the cost will be silly money......

Not doubting Young or the other two signings both good players who have started the season well,everyone knows we needed to replace Scholes and we haven't as yet!

Maybe Cleverly will return and hit the ground running again but he is still not experienced for Europe.

[SantiSuk]

Always said that we needed a play-maker like Wesley,i think it is showing now but hey-ho maybe once we get an established centre back pairing it will again give confidence to the rest of the team to start showing the attacking flair that undeniably they have.

The thing that nobody has picked up on was that Rooney had a stinker against City and looked very average his work rate is always good but attacking wise he was very below his normal self,hopefully he gets the help from his team mates stepping up also in the next few games starting against Everton!

We still need to sign a attacking midfielder that is top drawer especially for Europe.

Everybody wants one of those. A rare commodity - only Modric, Gerrard, maybe Lampard (again of late) in the English and Welsh game at the mo. <deleted> Barca have probably the best 2 in the world - greedy sods. You are going to have to make someone an offer they cannot refuse - particularly if the Manyoo DNA change continues (which I doubt)

Anybody spot an upcoming one elsewhere in the E&W game? Wilshere may well become top class within a season or two, he's strong on the running at defences and give and goes but needs to develop as a playmaker (vision/ pass execution). Modric is the other way around I would say.

Edited October 29, 2011 by SantiSuk

[MrRed]

City have got two as well in Silva and Nasri!

Ross Barkley needs to go to a big club soon also he will make it,can be our new Rooney

The three you mentioned well two are past it and the third is a Spurs /Chelsea bitch

I am sure we will be ok but if we are to progress in Europe we have not got a chance as we are at the moment.

[duan]

Can anyone please tell me whether Channel 3 are showing MUFC's Champions League game next Tuesday?I see Channel 7 are showing City that night but cannot find the Schedule for Channel 3 on their site.

Many thanks

[mrbojangles]

You stuffy gits.

Another easy HOME draw in the Carling Cup. I honestly don't know how you do it.

[StevieH]

You stuffy gits.

Another easy HOME draw in the Carling Cup. I honestly don't know how you do it.

it really is quite incredible isn't it? but there's an agenda against them apparently.

[MrRed]

You stuffy gits.

Another easy HOME draw in the Carling Cup. I honestly don't know how you do it.

The luck of the draw they say!

[MrRed]

You stuffy gits.

Another easy HOME draw in the Carling Cup. I honestly don't know how you do it.

it really is quite incredible isn't it? but there's an agenda against them apparently.

Correct me if i'm wrong will you........Dalglish arranged a meeting with the referee's boss not to long ago yes? do you think he thinks that the the world is against them and he still is moaning about baby Suarez,look at your <deleted> mate.

[SantiSuk]

Who cares - it's only the piss weak league cup. I can't remember who won it 2 years ago can you?

[Sparkles]

Can anyone please tell me whether Channel 3 are showing MUFC's Champions League game next Tuesday?I see Channel 7 are showing City that night but cannot find the Schedule for Channel 3 on their site.

Many thanks

I think coverage of these games is a lottery at the moment.Wasn't it last round when the coverage disappeared at half time.Its a sort of "get up and see" scenario

[Sparkles]

I think when Evans was selected, in preference to Ferdinand, last night there was a collective groan from supporters however to his credit he played reasonably well.The genius of SAF or just a hunch ? I think the playing future of Ferdinand at United is in serious doubt .He might see the season out but he is looking and playing like a player well past his best.

In future I think we will see Smalling (curently with a broken bone in his foot) and Jones as the best centre pairing in the EPL. On Vidic's display last night it will not be any time soon though,I thought he was the best player on the pitch.

[smokie36]

Bit lucky that wasn't it?

[SantiSuk]

Can anyone please tell me whether Channel 3 are showing MUFC's Champions League game next Tuesday?I see Channel 7 are showing City that night but cannot find the Schedule for Channel 3 on their site.

Many thanks

I think coverage of these games is a lottery at the moment.Wasn't it last round when the coverage disappeared at half time.Its a sort of "get up and see" scenario

Think you just marked yourself out as a village dweller like me. The resort townies are normally just slapping on the after-shave to go out for the evening at that time

[smokie36]

Can anyone please tell me whether Channel 3 are showing MUFC's Champions League game next Tuesday?I see Channel 7 are showing City that night but cannot find the Schedule for Channel 3 on their site.

Many thanks

I think coverage of these games is a lottery at the moment.Wasn't it last round when the coverage disappeared at half time.Its a sort of "get up and see" scenario

Think you just marked yourself out as a village dweller like me. The resort townies are normally just slapping on the after-shave to go out for the evening at that time

ahahahaha....

[MrRed]

Nice easy Champions League match tonight to give the kids and codgers a run out,4-0 would be a welcome result important we start keeping clean sheets again now.

[mrbojangles]

Nice easy Champions League match tonight to give the kids and codgers a run out

That's better. A typical RAG statement

[MrRed]

Not a great performance by the Reds last night and as i predicted earlier in the season the positioning of Rooney in midfield shows that we need a world class play maker,Rooney is good but you lose a lot from not having him more forward in his normal position,sadly an early exit is on the cards this season,unless January brings class.

The most important thing now is to get a cohesive defensive unit and no goals against last night was a big plus.

Confidence that they had at the start of the season is not fully back yet,i hope soon! the way they are setting up now is to win games one or two nil again similar to last season back to basics from Ferguson after the City humiliation.

Still United don't normally get going until Christmas

[bkkjames]

Tomorrow night marks 25 Years of Incredible Success for UTD under SAF.

Instead of listing all the trophies I thought I would post some of his more memorable quotes I found online.

Sorry for any cursing in the quotes that may not be allowed...

Memorable Quotes

1. “Only true champions come out and show their worth after defeat- and I expect us to do that”(Sir Alex Ferguson after been beaten by Arsenal for a second time in the league 2006 season}

2. “You’re a fuc_kin’ bottler Incey! You cannae handle the stage, can you? You are a fuc_kin’ bottler!” (Alex Ferguson to Paul Ince at half-time, Barcelona, 1994.)

3. “I can’t believe it. I can’t believe it. Football. Bloody hell.”(Alex Ferguson after winning the European Cup on May 26th, 1999.)

4. “I thought the first 45 minutes were the best of my time as a manager.”

(Alex Ferguson after United had come back from 2-0 down to beat Juventus 3-2 in Turin, Italy in what was later heralded as one of the greatest comebacks in sporting history.)

5. “I’m privileged to have followed Sir Matt because all you have to do is to try and maintain the standards that he set so many years ago.”

(Alex Ferguson after equalling Sir Matt Busby’s Premiership record)

6. “That’s absolute <deleted>, that. Absolute nonsense.”(Sir Alex Ferguson after beating FA Premier League champions Chelsea FC 1-0 on November 6th 2005 when asked if the previous week where Manchester United had endured much criticism was the worst week of his career.)

7. “At the end of this game, the European Cup will be only six feet away from you and you’ll not even able to touch it if we lose. And for many of you that will be the closest you will ever get. Don’t you dare come back in here without giving your all”.

o Alex Ferguson’s half time team talk during the 1999 European Cup Final

8. “It would have been Sir Matt Busby’s 90th birthday today, but I think he was up there doing a lot of kicking.”(Alex Ferguson post match after winning the European Cup 1999)

9. “My greatest challenge is not what’s happening at the moment, my greatest challenge was knocking Liverpool right off their fuc_king perch. And you can print that.”(Sir Alex Ferguson responding to Alan Hansen questioning Sir Alex Ferguson’s future as Manchester United manager in September 2002 in the Guardian.)

10. “Just fuc_king patch him up” (Sir Alex Ferguson to a club physio after kicking a boot at David Beckham’s head which left him needing stitches above his eye.)

11. “It was a freakish incident. If I tried it 100 or a million times it couldn’t happen again. If I could I would have carried on playing!”(Sir Alex Ferguson to the media after the incident had happened.)

12. “It’s getting tickly now – squeaky-bum time, I call it”.(Sir Alex Ferguson on the 2002/2003 end of season title race. A phrase now used very often in newspapers at all levels of football.)

13. “On you go. I’m no fuc_king talking to you. He’s a fuc_king great player. Yous are fuc_king idiots.” (Sir Alex Ferguson speaking to the media about Juan Sebastian Veron)

14. “It keeps those fuc_kers from the media out.” (Ferguson about the new ‘Fortress Carrington’ training complex.)

15. “I am such a bloody talented guy. I might go into painting or something like that.” (Sir Alex on life after management.)

16. “He’s a bully, a fuc_king big-time Charlie”. (Alex Ferguson on Paul Ince)

17. “They say he’s an intelligent man, right? Speaks five languages! I’ve got a 15-year-old boy from the Ivory Coast who speaks five languages!” (Sir Alex Ferguson on Arsene Wenger)

18. “It is totally out of the question. There is no way we would sell him, or any of our best players” (Sir Alex Ferguson before selling David Beckham, 12th April 2003)

19. “David Beckham is Britain’s finest striker of a football not because of God-given talent but because he practises with a relentless application that the vast majority of less gifted players wouldn’t contemplate. (Alex Ferguson on David Beckham (1999))

20. “What the fuc_k are you lot playing at? That is the biggest load of <deleted> I’ve ever seen. Not one of you can look me in the eye, because not one of you deserves to have a say. I can’t believe you’ve come here and decided to toss it off like that crap you’re playing out there.” (Half-time at Sheffield Wednesday, 1998.)

21. “If he was an inch taller he’d be the best centre half in Britain. His father is 6ft 2in – I’d check the milkman.” (Sir Alex Ferguson on Gary Neville)

22. “When an Italian tells me its pasta on the plate I check under the sauce to make sure. They are the inventors of the smokescreen.”(Alex Ferguson before Manchester United played Inter Milan in the Champions League Quarter Final 1999)

23. “Whether dribbling or sprinting, Ryan can leave the best defenders with twisted blood” (Sir Alex Ferguson on Ryan Giggs)

24. “Cole should be scoring from those distances, but I’m not going to single him out.” (Sir Alex Ferguson on Andy Cole and others.)

25. “Pippo Inzaghi was born in an offside position.” (Sir Alex Ferguson on Pippo Inzaghi after finding out that Pippo is the most offside player in the football ever.)

26. “As with every young player, he’s only 18.” (Alex Ferguson on Beckham)

27. “It was particularly pleasing that our goalscorers scored tonight.” (Alex Ferguson on scoring goals)

28. “The philosophy of a lot of European teams, even in home matches, is not to give a goal away.” (Alex Ferguson on European teams)

29. “This pilot move by FIFA will take root and fly.”(Alex Ferguson on FIFA pilot program)

30. “If we can play like that every week, we’ll get some level of consistency.” (Alex Ferguson on consistency)

31. “The lads ran their socks into the ground.” (Alex Ferguson on his players)

32. “He could start a row in an empty house.” (Alex Ferguson on Dennis Wise)

33. “We have people coming here to admire the scenery and enjoy their crisps.” (Alex Ferguson on United fans)

34. “Just when they thought they had a chance Ruud killed them off a bit.” (Alex Ferguson on most matches in which Ruud scores!)

35. “The big challenges are the biggest stage and it is a true test of all footballers in Europe.”

36. “We need Van Nistelrooy up there again because we missed some incredible chances at Portsmouth. He’s the best.”

37. “Sometimes we can get too emotional as a club with things that are happening. But we’re both of a common denominator – we don’t want the club to be in anyone else’s hands.”

38. “I have always tried to be the bridge between the club and the fans and I have tried to support the fans in a lot of their pleas and causes.”

39. “In my 18 years at this club, that was the worst performance we have ever produced in the FA Cup.” (after the FA Cup holders are held by non-league Exeter City in 2005)

40. “If Chelsea drop points, the cat’s out in the open. And you know what cats are like – sometimes they don’t come home.”

41. “He was certainly full of it, calling me Boss and Big Man when we had our post-match drink after the first leg. But it would help if his greetings were accompanied by a decent glass of wine. What he gave me was paint-stripper.” (on Jose Mourinho)

42. “Wayne Rooney doesn’t score tap-ins.”

43. “Oh dearie me, the FA are going to be delighted with that!” (Alex Ferguson on Man U vs Arsenal in the Carling Cup)

44. “We’re suffering because of what happened against Arsenal… one of my players would have to be hit by an axe to get a penalty at the moment.”

45. “They have those fans who are so emotional and fanatical, they expect to win the World Cup” (Alex Ferguson on Newcastle fans)

46. “They come out with the ‘English are so strong, we’re terrible in the air, we can’t do this, we can’t do that’. Then they beat you 3 – 0″ (Alex Ferguson on Italians)

47. “I used to have a saying that when a player is at his peak, he feels as though he can climb Everst in his slippers. That’s what he was like”(Alex Ferguson on Paul Ince)

48. “At half-time it could have been 20-all! But commonsense took over – or boring football took over!” (Alex Ferguson on a 3 – 2 win over Fulham, 2005)

49. “I remember the first time I saw him. He was 13 and just floated over the ground like a cocker spaniel chasing a piece of silver paper in the wind” (Alex Ferguson on Ryan Giggs)

50. “We are catching them [Chelsea] and we just hope the finishing line doesn’t come too soon.”

51. “This was an important day and we wanted everyone together. In that situation it was best to leave Ruud out”

52. “Wayne is truly blessed. He doesn’t just have ability, he has a fire inside him ”

53. “When we signed him [Rooney] at 18, everyone said ‘what will he be like at 21?’ Now he’s 21, people are saying ‘what will he be like at 25?’ It was always destined to be that way”

54. “He demonstrates great hunger and desire all the time. Without doubt, he is the best 21-year-old I have ever had.” (Alex Ferguson on Rooney)

55. “He was towering over me and the other players were almost covering their eyes. I’m looking up and thinking ‘if he does hit me, I’m dead’”(Alex Ferguson on an argument with Peter Schmeichel)

56. “I think it’s important to work and I’m entitled to work. Some people do not want to work but I want to continue working”

57. “We will only be in trouble if we listen to Jose too much”

58. “I bet him he wouldn’t get 15 league goals and I’m going to have to change my bet with him. If he gets to 15 I can change it and I am allowed to do that because I’m the manager. I’m going to make it 150 now” (on Ronaldo)

59. “He’ll be getting a hug and a kiss from me – maybe even two!” (on Sam Allardyce)

60. “I don’t think I could have a higher opinion of any footballer than I already had of the Irishman, but he rose even further in my estimation at the Stadio Delle Alpi. The minute he was booked and out of the final he seemed to redouble his efforts to get the team there. It was the most emphatic display of selflessness I have seen on a football field. Pounding over every blade of grass, competing if he would rather die of exhaustion than lose he inspired all around him. I felt it was an honour to be associated with such a player. (Alex Ferguson on Roy Keane after the European Cup semi-final in the 1999.)