Soo Long To Load

[daleyboy]

Is it me? I am on 10meg broadband with the hardware to go with it, but for some reason TV is on go slow. Get the adverts very quickly but then it is another 5 seconds before the rest of the page loads

[penzman]

Nothing's changed for me. Anywhere I go pages open up ok for dialup. Min. 30 seconds for me here and sometimes have to reload as it freezes at around 50%.

[cdnvic]

if you can firewall or block stats.big-boards.com and gits.net.th (the counters) the pages load alot faster.

cv

[Khutan]

Its going very fast for me this morning on my True 2Mb connection.

[lopburi3]

I agree there has been something wrong for the last week or two and often have page stop loading when my curser is set in the advertising field. If I move it around the page continues to load. But this only happens about one time in four so hard to say why. I am using Opera but even if I switch to IE have load problems. But then again the internet itself has not been exactly great recently on my TRUE connection with frequent less than dial up speeds. Would be interested if anyone else has noticed a correlation between mouse movement and loading. I have no idea how they could be related but it happens so many times I am starting to believe in ghosts.

[Simmo]

I think part of it is the heavy use of javascript , I've notice turning off javascript (with a firefox extension) on slower computers makes the pages load faster.

[francois]

hi'

I have a quite good speed connection 6mb/1mb, but even with it, the forum is getting slower and slower to load, just waiting for advertizing slow external links, pity

btw, those commercial ... are they really useful, a part to get a good rank on google on some cents coming in?

just to say that it's disturbing a bit, voila ...

francois

[Mighty Mouse]

I have a fast cable connection to the internet and yes, TV does take longer to load as compared to other internet sites, but..............

......this site has to have an income in order to pay for the server and the mods bad drinking habits, so we need to be tolerant of a few minor drawbacks.

Advertising is much better than subscription.

The site is well worth the loading time once you are plugged in.

[sierra01]

I have a fast cable connection to the internet and yes, TV does take longer to load as compared to other internet sites, but..............

......this site has to have an income in order to pay for the server and the mods bad drinking habits, so we need to be tolerant of a few minor drawbacks.

Advertising is much better than subscription.

The site is well worth the loading time once you are plugged in.

You mean that our fine, upstanding mods are all alcholics?

[Jai Dee]

I have a fast cable connection to the internet and yes, TV does take longer to load as compared to other internet sites, but..............

......this site has to have an income in order to pay for the server and the mods bad drinking habits, so we need to be tolerant of a few minor drawbacks.

Advertising is much better than subscription.

The site is well worth the loading time once you are plugged in.

You mean that our fine, upstanding mods are all alcholics?

I only drink on days ending with a "y"... Monday... Tuesday... Wednesday...

[sierra01]

Thats ok then.

[cdnvic]

We spend all of what George pays us each year on beer.

If next year goes well we may buy two beers.

cv

[sierra01]

So you do it for love then?

[BKK90210]

I have super high speed connection....TV is still sure too darn slowww

Someone better fix this problem soon....coz I have only 2 weeks of jury duty (with minimum wage compensation ofcourse) - top secret trial - I'm not allow to talk about the case to anyone. Just to kill all my free times ... I want to spend all my times on TV...so that I won't get bored. Watching and waiting for the page to pop up between my baths is not my idea of fun!

Edited January 28, 2006 by BKK90210

[francois]

hi'

drink boys, drink, the site takes 2 sec more than needed to be loaded and there is a hang time before the page is available ...

is this ok?

commercials don't slow down this much, or you need to choose better, it's slow! ###### slow!!

The site is well worth the loading time once you are plugged in.

this is the word of the day

francois

Edited January 28, 2006 by francois

[francois]

I think part of it is the heavy use of javascript , I've notice turning off javascript (with a firefox extension) on slower computers makes the pages load faster.

hi'

true, but I would say abuse rather than heavy use

turn it off

but use an extension as Simmo said for obvious reason if you don't want your java machine to be useless ...

francois

[george]

hi'

drink boys, drink, the site takes 2 sec more than needed to be loaded and there is a hang time before the page is available ...

is this ok?

francois

Francois, could you please point me to the section(s) in the code that "hangs" the forum?

Thanks in advance!

[lopburi3]

Don't know if it is your return or what but right now pages are loading better than they have all week. With IE not having any trouble now. With Opera still have a serious no load problem if curser key in the Google block - stops dead until the curser is moved out of the advertising area. I suspect that is the same problem we have in Opera with the display of PM messages behind the advertising and nothing can be done. But this week has been really bad and previous use of IE did not help much.

[Tywais]

Does seem to be a lot of external traffic. A very unsophisicated test was to hit the reload button and watch the status bar and see what links were being drawn in and some time ratios.

media.thaivisa.com

google-analytics.com

pagead2.googlesyndication.com

yceml.net

truehits.gits.net

stats.bigboard

and a couple of others can't catch the URL of.

So indeed a lot of activity going on.

A large percentage seemed to be on the media.thaivisa.com loading. Some delays with google-analytics.com. Don't know what yceml.net is but loading seemed minimal, truehits sometimes a bit of a delay there.

When I get to my laboratory tomorrow and get on my unix server I will try to run better analysis of the traffic patterns to see I can find a bottleneck. Possibly priortizing the code to stream line it some.

Edited January 29, 2006 by tywais

[penzman]

I ve noticed it was a lot slower a while back as I used to be able to open links in new windows (when looking at a new posts page) with my dialup connection but now it mostly just hangs.

[huski]

last week there was a bad router/switch (located in the savvis.net network) between thailand and two hops before our server in the united states. once it was identified, traffic was re-routed.

anyone having delays, please do the following and paste your results in this thread:

go to a c:/ prompt and type in

tracert thaivisa.com

click enter

this trace will show the hops from your ISP to our server. also do a trace route with the following and post the results:

tracert media.thaivisa.com

[markuk]

I ve noticed it was a lot slower a while back as I used to be able to open links in new windows (when looking at a new posts page) with my dialup connection but now it mostly just hangs.

Seems really slow today

[cdnvic]

It's definitely media that's hanging:

C:\>tracert media.thaivisa.com

Tracing route to media.thaivisa.com [216.32.75.130]

over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms 192.168.0.1

2 * * * Request timed out.

3 39 ms 11 ms 22 ms rd2cv-ge3-1-1.gv.shawcable.net [64.59.166.83]

4 11 ms 20 ms 36 ms rc1wt-pos2-1.wa.shawcable.net [66.163.77.21]

5 101 ms 201 ms 198 ms ge-6-1.car4.Seattle1.Level3.net [63.211.200.29]

6 50 ms 29 ms 22 ms ae-1-53.mp1.Seattle1.Level3.net [4.68.105.65]

7 26 ms 53 ms 29 ms as-0-0.bbr2.SanJose1.Level3.net [64.159.0.218]

8 46 ms 28 ms 33 ms ae-24-52.car4.SanJose1.Level3.net [4.68.123.46]

9 32 ms 31 ms 27 ms bpr1-ge-7-0-0.SanJoseEquinix.savvis.net [208.173

.54.73]

10 34 ms 62 ms 29 ms dcr1-so-3-2-0.SanFranciscosfo.savvis.net [208.17

3.54.66]

11 29 ms 56 ms 59 ms dcr2-so-5-0-0.SanFranciscosfo.savvis.net [204.70

.192.150]

12 44 ms 70 ms 41 ms dcr1-so-2-0-0.LosAngeles.savvis.net [204.70.192.

89]

13 78 ms 79 ms 71 ms bcs2-so-1-3-0.dallas.savvis.net [204.70.192.250]

14 86 ms 71 ms 92 ms ohr1-pos-1-0.FortWorthda1.savvis.net [208.172.12

9.230]

15 84 ms 71 ms 101 ms csr2-ve240.FortWorthda1.savvis.net [216.39.64.35

]

16 99 ms 79 ms 74 ms 216.39.69.226

17 87 ms * * 216.39.69.226

18 * 103 ms * ns1.tierhost.com [216.32.75.130]

19 93 ms 116 ms 77 ms ns1.tierhost.com [216.32.75.130]

Trace complete.

C:\>tracert thaivisa.com

Tracing route to thaivisa.com [69.93.20.90]

over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms 192.168.0.1

2 * * * Request timed out.

3 8 ms 24 ms 64 ms rd2cv-ge3-1-1.gv.shawcable.net [64.59.166.83]

4 34 ms 11 ms 14 ms rc1wt-pos2-1.wa.shawcable.net [66.163.77.21]

5 44 ms 10 ms 27 ms rc2wt-pos1-0.wa.shawcable.net [66.163.68.2]

6 18 ms 14 ms 30 ms rx0wt-abovenet.wa.shawcable.net [66.163.68.22]

7 58 ms 42 ms 27 ms so-6-3-0.mpr4.sjc2.us.above.net [64.125.28.21]

8 72 ms 72 ms 111 ms so-2-3-0.cr1.dfw2.us.above.net [64.125.29.50]

9 76 ms 113 ms 73 ms 64.124.79.77.theplanet.com [64.124.79.77]

10 78 ms 92 ms 74 ms vl31.dsr02.dllstx3.theplanet.com [70.85.127.30]

11 73 ms 79 ms 78 ms vl21.dsr01.dllstx2.theplanet.com [70.85.127.67]

12 72 ms 76 ms 75 ms vl1.car12.dllstx2.theplanet.com [12.96.160.17]

13 75 ms 71 ms 87 ms thaivisa.com [69.93.20.90]

Trace complete.

[francois]

hi'

C:\Documents and Settings\Francois>tracert media.thaivisa.com

Détermination de l'itinéraire vers media.thaivisa.com [216.32.75.130]

avec un maximum de 30 sauts :

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1

2 59 ms 60 ms 59 ms 192.168.254.254

3 59 ms 60 ms 59 ms c4948-a23-2.routers.proxad.net [212.27.55.126]

4 * * * Délai d'attente de la demande dépassé.

5 * 59 ms 59 ms cbv-6k-1-po4.intf.routers.proxad.net [212.27.56.

1]

6 59 ms 60 ms 59 ms if-7-0.core2.PG1-Paris.teleglobe.net [80.231.73.

17]

7 141 ms 141 ms 141 ms if-9-0.mcore4.NQT-NewYork.teleglobe.net [216.6.8

7.25]

8 143 ms 141 ms 142 ms if-5-0.core2.NQT-NewYork.teleglobe.net [216.6.87

.10]

9 142 ms 141 ms 142 ms if-9-0.core3.NQT-NewYork.Teleglobe.net [64.86.83

.158]

10 142 ms 142 ms 141 ms if-1-0.core2.AEQ-Ashburn.teleglobe.net [209.58.2

7.57]

11 142 ms 146 ms 143 ms ix-12-0.core2.AEQ-Ashburn.teleglobe.net [209.58.

27.46]

12 153 ms 152 ms 143 ms cpr1-pos-4-0.VirginiaEquinix.savvis.net [206.24.

227.57]

13 160 ms 142 ms 142 ms bcs1-so-3-3-0.Washington.savvis.net [206.24.238.

97]

14 168 ms 143 ms 168 ms dcr2-so-7-3-0.Atlanta.savvis.net [204.70.192.65]

15 193 ms 157 ms 191 ms bcs2-so-2-0-0.Dallas.savvis.net [204.70.192.70]

16 180 ms 180 ms 188 ms ohr1-pos-1-0.FortWorthda1.savvis.net [208.172.12

9.230]

17 180 ms 191 ms 188 ms csr1-ve242.FortWorthda1.savvis.net [216.39.64.58

]

18 181 ms 194 ms 180 ms csr1-ve242.FortWorthda1.savvis.net [216.39.64.58

]

19 181 ms * 181 ms 216.39.69.50

20 191 ms 194 ms * ns1.tierhost.com [216.32.75.130]

21 197 ms 181 ms 181 ms ns1.tierhost.com [216.32.75.130]

Itinéraire déterminé.

and

C:\Documents and Settings\Francois>tracert thaivisa.com

Détermination de l'itinéraire vers thaivisa.com [69.93.20.90]

avec un maximum de 30 sauts :

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1

2 59 ms 60 ms 60 ms 192.168.254.254

3 59 ms 59 ms 60 ms c4948-a23-2.routers.proxad.net [212.27.55.126]

4 * * * Délai d'attente de la demande dépassé.

5 59 ms 59 ms 60 ms th1-6k-2-po4.intf.routers.proxad.net [212.27.56.

202]

6 * * * Délai d'attente de la demande dépassé.

7 59 ms 59 ms 59 ms gi-6-0.cr1.cdg2.fr.above.net [84.207.21.177]

8 60 ms 59 ms 60 ms po20.mpr1.cdg2.fr.above.net [64.125.23.45]

9 68 ms 68 ms 68 ms so-5-0-0.cr1.lhr3.uk.above.net [64.125.23.13]

10 141 ms 140 ms 140 ms so-7-0-0.cr1.dca2.us.above.net [64.125.31.186]

11 141 ms 140 ms 140 ms so-0-0-0.cr2.dca2.us.above.net [64.125.29.122]

12 168 ms 168 ms 171 ms so-3-2-0.cr2.dfw2.us.above.net [64.125.28.205]

13 168 ms 168 ms 169 ms 216.200.6.237.theplanet.com [216.200.6.237]

14 168 ms 169 ms 167 ms vl31.dsr02.dllstx3.theplanet.com [70.85.127.30]

15 169 ms 168 ms 168 ms vl22.dsr02.dllstx2.theplanet.com [70.85.127.76]

16 169 ms 169 ms 169 ms vl1.car12.dllstx2.theplanet.com [12.96.160.17]

17 169 ms 169 ms 168 ms thaivisa.com [69.93.20.90]

Itinéraire déterminé.

that's it ... sorry test in french

francois

re,

you asked wich page load slow, well the first link in my bookmarks doesn't load until I ask once more, and then now that I installed "no script" extension, it asks me if I want to allow script from thaivisa and three more ...

I allowed the main one and the script that allow you to answer to a topic, the rest is blocked and it's faster now ...

google syndication, google-analytics and gits.net.th what's that?

francois

[penzman]

Trace done at 2:39am LOS time

C:\>tracert thaivisa.com

Tracing route to thaivisa.com [69.93.20.90]

over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 167 ms 175 ms 175 ms sga-tot.isp-thailand.com [202.57.160.4]

2 165 ms 167 ms 168 ms 202.57.146.94.rev-ip.isp-thailand.com [202.57.14

6.94]

3 278 ms 175 ms 175 ms 202.57.146.5.rev-ip.isp-thailand.com [202.57.146

.5]

4 157 ms 175 ms 168 ms 61.19.15.229

5 287 ms 168 ms 175 ms 202.47.253.150

6 374 ms 455 ms 456 ms 202.47.253.217

7 390 ms 447 ms 448 ms 63.65.153.13

8 358 ms 455 ms 448 ms 0.so-7-0-0.XL1.LAX1.ALTER.NET [152.63.112.250]

9 426 ms 443 ms 455 ms 0.so-7-0-0.XL1.DFW13.ALTER.NET [152.63.103.218]

10 404 ms 447 ms 448 ms POS6-0.GW1.DFW13.ALTER.NET [152.63.103.85]

11 422 ms 456 ms 455 ms theplanet-gw.customer.alter.net [157.130.143.226

]

12 405 ms 455 ms 456 ms vl31.dsr01.dllstx3.theplanet.com [70.85.127.29]

13 414 ms 448 ms 447 ms vl21.dsr01.dllstx2.theplanet.com [70.85.127.67]

14 421 ms 447 ms 455 ms vl1.car12.dllstx2.theplanet.com [12.96.160.17]

15 429 ms 456 ms 447 ms thaivisa.com [69.93.20.90]

Trace complete.

C:\>tracert media.thaivisa.com

Tracing route to media.thaivisa.com [216.32.75.130]

over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 171 ms 184 ms 167 ms sga-tot.isp-thailand.com [202.57.160.4]

2 277 ms 175 ms 175 ms 202.57.146.94.rev-ip.isp-thailand.com [202.57.14

6.94]

3 157 ms 168 ms 167 ms 202.57.146.5.rev-ip.isp-thailand.com [202.57.146

.5]

4 285 ms 175 ms 168 ms 61.19.15.229

5 149 ms 167 ms 167 ms 202.47.253.148

6 373 ms 455 ms 455 ms 12.118.130.101

7 374 ms 455 ms 456 ms tbr2-p013202.la2ca.ip.att.net [12.123.199.122]

8 382 ms 456 ms 455 ms 12.122.84.45

9 374 ms 459 ms 452 ms bpr1-so-0-0-0.losangeles.savvis.net [192.205.32.

66]

10 370 ms 455 ms 456 ms dcr1-as0-0.LosAngeles.savvis.net [204.70.192.117

]

11 414 ms 447 ms 455 ms bcs2-so-3-3-0.dallas.savvis.net [204.70.192.246]

12 388 ms 447 ms 455 ms bcs1-so-6-0-0.Dallas.savvis.net [204.70.192.49]

13 397 ms 456 ms 455 ms ohr1-pos-4-0.FortWorthda1.savvis.net [208.172.13

1.82]

14 389 ms 455 ms 458 ms csr1-ve242.FortWorthda1.savvis.net [216.39.64.58

]

15 * 491 ms 455 ms 216.39.69.50

16 406 ms * 391 ms ns1.tierhost.com [216.32.75.130]

Trace complete.

[spacebass]

if you can firewall or block stats.big-boards.com and gits.net.th (the counters) the pages load alot faster.

cv

Hi CD,

I have blocked these two in firefox cookies section is that it?

Thanks

Edited January 30, 2006 by spacebass