My Brother In Law's Girlfriend

[Banzai99]

Technically speaking he isn't his brother in law yet...

Sometimes I yearn to read a thread from the apologists where the Thais pay for this stuff themselves and don't go running to the nearest white man in the family.

In cases like this isn't it obvious why we look down on them so much at times?

I'm not an apologist but I do look down on people like you who mix with one particular section of Thai society and generalise about the entire nation based on your experiences.

This is Thai Visa, full of old men who are so set in their ways they can see no different way to live, it's their way or no way.

[SteeleJoe]

^ are you Bernard Trink?

Nuff said.

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[jbrain]

if she earns 40 K per month, why she doesn't put the money for show?

Toyota Vios monthly payments, money to family etc etc.

So in fact you DIDN'T buy her a car, as you state in the OP, since it's paid by her in monthly installments.

Is there anything more that you claimed you bought, but actually didn't ?

[somtumlion]

Looks like a thread for the OP to tell us how much money he has, assets, etc. Congratulations. As for your question. No one here knows your family like you do. Make up your own mind, like a big boy.

[SteeleJoe]

if she earns 40 K per month, why she doesn't put the money for show?

Toyota Vios monthly payments, money to family etc etc.

So in fact you DIDN'T buy her a car, as you state in the OP, since it's paid by her in monthly installments.

Is there anything more that you claimed you bought, but actually didn't ?

Settle down Mr. Prosecutor. I believe the defendant claimed to have bought his WIFE a car. Not his brother in law's girlfriend.

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[SteeleJoe]

Looks like a thread for the OP to tell us how much money he has, assets, etc. Congratulations. As for your question. No one here knows your family like you do. Make up your own mind, like a big boy.

Rather looked like that to me as well.

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[thaibeachlovers]

(from OP) "I have been with my Missus for nearly 10 years, I bought her a car, The house I built in Loei is obviously in her name, in fact, even the Condo I bought in Wong Amat Pattaya is in her name, I sent her younger sister to university and I love her, by the way, she breezed the degree. I have bought 3 farms , 1 Nissan Pick Up, 5 Motorcycles, 1 Honda City, 1 Toyota Fortuner".

You've done all this and are now asking advice here about 150,000?

.....Zzzzzzzzzz

I was initially supporting the OP, but after reading this post, I can only surmise that the OP really doesn't deserve any sympathy. The time to be concerned about a "piffling" amount of "small change" ( to the OP ) was 10 years ago.

Like The Beatles sang, "Money can't buy me love".

[jbrain]

if she earns 40 K per month, why she doesn't put the money for show?

Toyota Vios monthly payments, money to family etc etc.

So in fact you DIDN'T buy her a car, as you state in the OP, since it's paid by her in monthly installments.

Is there anything more that you claimed you bought, but actually didn't ?

Settle down Mr. Prosecutor. I believe the defendant claimed to have bought his WIFE a car. Not his brother in law's girlfriend.

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Sorry overlooked that fact.

Thanks for the justification Mr. Interrogator.

[SteeleJoe]

Sorry overlooked that fact.

Thanks for the justification Mr. Interrogator.

You should address me as "Your Honor". Now, sit down.

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[thaibeachlovers]

i bought this,i bought that,she's got this,she's got that,it goes on and on and he's concerned about 150k bht.your having a laugh,if your serious you need some time at the funny farm.

Why do I need time in a Funny Farm ?

If I lived in The UK and I had bought these things would you say the same ?

I don't live in the UK though, I have lived here since 1990, when I lived in the UK I bought my ex wife a Car, when I left the UK she got the House that I had Paid for.

Surely she only got half the value of the house? If she didn't, and got the whole value of the house, English men must be barking to buy houses, knowing that they might lose it all.

In Thailand, the wife gets it all if she kicks her husband out- no need even to go to court, so any farang that buys her a house must accept that that is a possible outcome.

Personally, even if I had a $billion I wouldn't buy a house in Thailand, as it's the only way to know if she loves me for myself and not my money.

[sotsira]

I would still like the OP to clarify whether the bride, and or her family are aware

of the 150k loan from him?

Or, is it a secret between himself, his wife and her brother?

[DrTuner]

Give them 200b and see if they pay it back first. Gotta have good credit history, you know. Also the easiest way to get rid of unreliable people, just say 'how about that 200b you owe me" every time you see them. They're guaranteed to avoid you like the plague.

[TommoPhysicist]

Like The Beatles sang, "Money can't buy me love".

But it can buy you the use of a firm young body for a while.

IMHO the 'love' part is wildly over-rated.

Although after 10 years it might be time to think about buying a new firm young body.

[TommoPhysicist]

Surely she only got half the value of the house? If she didn't, and got the whole value of the house, English men must be barking to buy houses, knowing that they might lose it all.

In the UK, they don't tell you in advance that she will likely get the whole house (she got mine).

Those you do try to tell refuse to believe you, as theirs is different and would never take the whole house.

[thaibeachlovers]

Like The Beatles sang, "Money can't buy me love".

But it can buy you the use of a firm young body for a while.

IMHO the 'love' part is wildly over-rated.

Although after 10 years it might be time to think about buying a new firm young body.

Agreed about renting the firm young body, and the whole concept of "lurve" is BS in my opinion. Hardly any of the people that I know still "love" their partners after 10 or so years, most are divorced.

Nothing said here convinces me that it is a good idea to buy a Thai wife multi millions worth of houses and cars.

Anyone that actually thinks money can buy true love is delusional.

[DrTuner]

With the love thingy it's unfortunate that falling in love and love use the same word. The first one is temporary hormone induced insanity that usually clears up within 6months (which is already too late for many) that seems to be addictive to some, the second one a somewhat more rationally based phenomenon that might even grow in time.

[thaibeachlovers]

Surely she only got half the value of the house? If she didn't, and got the whole value of the house, English men must be barking to buy houses, knowing that they might lose it all.

In the UK, they don't tell you in advance that she will likely get the whole house (she got mine).

Those you do try to tell refuse to believe you, as theirs is different and would never take the whole house.

I'm boggled, really boggled.

In New Zealand, the assets aquired during the marriage are split 50/ 50, although whoever keeps the kids gets the house till they are old enough to make their own way, after which it is sold, or one has to buy it from the other. Seems a fair deal to me.

If what you say is true, the British legal system is barking.

[thaibeachlovers]

With the love thingy it's unfortunate that falling in love and love use the same word. The first one is temporary hormone induced insanity that usually clears up within 6months (which is already too late for many) that seems to be addictive to some, the second one a somewhat more rationally based phenomenon that might even grow in time.

The English language is a very imperfect way of communicating meaning.

True love is what keeps people from splitting up over silly little things or when partners become old and ugly, and unconditional love is what a mother feels for her scumbag child that everyone else in the whole world despises.

Love, as it is commonly used, is, as you say, a hormonal reaction. It ensured the survival of the species before we became "civilized".

[BigJohnnyBKK]

With the love thingy it's unfortunate that falling in love and love use the same word. The first one is temporary hormone induced insanity that usually clears up within 6months (which is already too late for many) that seems to be addictive to some, the second one a somewhat more rationally based phenomenon that might even grow in time.

The English language is a very imperfect way of communicating meaning.

True love is what keeps people from splitting up over silly little things or when partners become old and ugly, and unconditional love is what a mother feels for her scumbag child that everyone else in the whole world despises.

Love, as it is commonly used, is, as you say, a hormonal reaction. It ensured the survival of the species before we became "civilized".

Well said all.

My personal definition of real love (as opposed to the chemically-induced emotional syndrome) is to be committed to the spiritual/emotional growth of the other.

Only the former IMO has anything to do with sex, although very nice indeed when they happen to coincide it's not to be taken seriously, least of all as the motive for anything important.

And neither phenomenon has anything to do with monogamy, nor the length of time a relationship is intended to last, both of which I see as arbitrary and obsolete remnants of organized religion's cultural programming.

[barefoot1988]

what a shameless request, i think this is way beyond your duty and its a total luxury thing, totally unnecessary unlike education fees and stuff. i think you should start voicing out as the alpha role, they are making use of you.

its their wedding and none of your business, a total shameless request imo. you could might as well ask his wife to front out her meat in the wedding night and give it back to her husband the next day like your 150k baht.

[barefoot1988]

if she earns 40 K per month, why she doesn't put the money for show?

its a world wide fashion thing. earn 40k, spend 50k.

[cheechoo]

The loan they are proposing is a fraction of what you have already outlayed.

This guy is a thai girl dream. 3 farms , houses, cars! and yo worry about 150k baht...........lol. I doubt the family would try to scam you now. They get more by keeping you happy.

[SteeleJoe]

The loan they are proposing is a fraction of what you have already outlayed.

This guy is a thai girl dream. 3 farms , houses, cars! and yo worry about 150k baht...........lol. I doubt the family would try to scam you now. They get more by keeping you happy.

Excellent point.

I'd always said it wasn't that hard to avoid getting taken advantage of: just be smart about your choices -- especially who you wind up with and what you put up with -- and refuse to be a mug. And in fact if you do the first, you don't even have to worry about the second -- you are with decent people who will treat you right.

But this recommends a whole new strategy: to prevent being scammed by your woman and/or her family, just make sure you continue to give them a steady flow of considerable funds and material goods!

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[The Smithy]

Give them 200b and see if they pay it back first. Gotta have good credit history, you know. Also the easiest way to get rid of unreliable people, just say 'how about that 200b you owe me" every time you see them. They're guaranteed to avoid you like the plague.

Totally agree,I love lending people 500 or 1,000 baht,as you know you'll never see or hear from them again.Cheap at half the price!

[SteeleJoe]

Give them 200b and see if they pay it back first. Gotta have good credit history, you know. Also the easiest way to get rid of unreliable people, just say 'how about that 200b you owe me" every time you see them. They're guaranteed to avoid you like the plague.

Totally agree,I love lending people 500 or 1,000 baht,as you know you'll never see or hear from them again.Cheap at half the price!

well since you love it -- I promise if you send me 1,000 you'll never see or hear from me. Shall I PM?

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[The Smithy]

The OP wouldn't be on here posting about this if he didn't think he was going to get ripped off.I predict that he'll be right & look forward to his next thread :

'Things I'd planned to do with my 150,000 baht once the wedding was over'!

[The Smithy]

Give them 200b and see if they pay it back first. Gotta have good credit history, you know. Also the easiest way to get rid of unreliable people, just say 'how about that 200b you owe me" every time you see them. They're guaranteed to avoid you like the plague.

Totally agree,I love lending people 500 or 1,000 baht,as you know you'll never see or hear from them again.Cheap at half the price!

well since you love it -- I promise if you send me 1,000 you'll never see or hear from me. Shall I PM?

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Unfortunately to qualify for one of my non-refundable loans you have to track down my physical location...good luck with that!

[BigJohnnyBKK]

Excellent point.

I'd always said it wasn't that hard to avoid getting taken advantage of: just be smart about your choices -- especially who you wind up with and what you put up with -- and refuse to be a mug. And in fact if you do the first, you don't even have to worry about the second -- you are with decent people who will treat you right.

But this recommends a whole new strategy: to prevent being scammed by your woman and/or her family, just make sure you continue to give them a steady flow of considerable funds and material goods!

And if you can afford to and have the inclination, why not? It's their money!

I know a very cute 17-year-old that lives in an 8+ million condo in her family's name and gets 60K per month spending money from her sugar daddy, who visits for a week or two, three or four times a year.

Why not, as long as he feels he's getting good value for money?

As long as there isn't deception or coercion involved, no moral issue involved at all AFAIC.

If a guy tries to get something of great value for less than the fair market rate, that IMO is when he opens himself up to getting scammed.

And the fact is that the trend is that westerners are the ones falling behind in their ability to match the wealthier Asian guys in competing for the most attractive girls. Which is why my strategy is to get well off the beaten path and target those areas where the girls don't yet have the knowledge and skills to target the wealthy guys, nor full accurate information about their own market value.

[bendejo]

Big stack of funny money, with a real 1,000 b note on top and bottom, tied with a wide red ribbon so that only the corners of the notes are visibile. Makes for an impressive display.

[BigJohnnyBKK]

Big stack of funny money, with a real 1,000 b note on top and bottom, tied with a wide red ribbon so that only the corners of the notes are visibile. Makes for an impressive display.

They're not that stupid, and I'd guess that trick may have been tried once or twice before - at most of the Thai weddings I've attended, an elder of the bride's family fans the money out across the area in front of the monks so everyone can verify it.