Steely Dan Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Snigger if you must, but this is a serious question. Having just read a western published guide to organic gardening I read that the hoe is supposed to be the most useful tool for weeding in the gardener's armory. Now you see shovels, rakes, adzes and something they call a 'Siam', for which I know not the English name, but not a hoe in sight. It struck me that weed prevention may not be achieved by weedkillers and slash and burn, then the neglected soil needs breaking up with an adze, but what of prevention? Ideas anyone? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooked Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 No sniggers. I'm afraid you will have to put up a picture of what a hoe means to you. I brought three different hoes with me me when I moved and this was a GOOD THING. I have started making my own tools here, bloody 'ell, the frustration... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post David48 Posted December 7, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2012 No sniggers but a warm for Post title of the year! . 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boksida Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Go to any town or village hardware store and ask for a "Jop" (kind of long drawn out sound), that has always got me to what I know as a hoe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khwaibah Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Go to any town or village hardware store and ask for a "Jop" (kind of long drawn out sound), that has always got me to what I know as a hoe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loong Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Go to any town or village hardware store and ask for a "Jop" (kind of long drawn out sound), that has always got me to what I know as a hoe. I think that the word is Jawk, the asian hoe. But it is not really ideal for weeding. I have kept looking for what I know as a hoe, but I think that I will have to bring one back when I am next in the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooked Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Looks like a mattock to me. The most useful hoe I use is the 'pendelhacke', discovered in Switzerland many years ago, no hacking movement, just pushing back and forth. No good in damp soil however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverSure Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Last time I was in a hardware store a hoe said I was a hansome man. Spooky, I'll tell ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooked Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 worst joke this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boksida Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 (edited) Go to any town or village hardware store and ask for a "Jop" (kind of long drawn out sound), that has always got me to what I know as a hoe.I think that the word is Jawk, the asian hoe. But it is not really ideal for weeding.I have kept looking for what I know as a hoe, but I think that I will have to bring one back when I am next in the UK.This is the one I meant: http://th.wikipedia....dia....c;à¸à¸¨จอบ (as per Kwaibah's picture) Edited December 7, 2012 by Boksida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris1dna Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 (edited) Go to any town or village hardware store and ask for a "Jop" (kind of long drawn out sound), that has always got me to what I know as a hoe. I believe the English or American name. Or what my grandpa called this device is know as a "hulla hoe". Referring to its hoop like shape similar to the "hulla hoop" of the times when it was first introduced in the '60s? Referring to the other pic with the hoop shaped blade that is. The wrong pic posted in the quote. Sent from my iPhone using ThaiVisa app Edited December 7, 2012 by chris1dna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loong Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Go to any town or village hardware store and ask for a "Jop" (kind of long drawn out sound), that has always got me to what I know as a hoe.I think that the word is Jawk, the asian hoe. But it is not really ideal for weeding.I have kept looking for what I know as a hoe, but I think that I will have to bring one back when I am next in the UK.This is the one I meant: http://th.wikipedia....dia....c;à¸à¸¨จอบ (as per Kwaibah's picture) I apologise, I should have typed Jawb, not Jawk. You are absolutely right Jop is good with the vowel drawn out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted December 7, 2012 Author Share Posted December 7, 2012 Looks like a mattock to me. The most useful hoe I use is the 'pendelhacke', discovered in Switzerland many years ago, no hacking movement, just pushing back and forth. No good in damp soil however. Yes, the second photo, that looks close. To labour the same joke the book I read calls that hoe a Dutch hoe, which was news to me as in the UK I would have expected all common or garden hoes to look like this. Perhaps I will make my own if I still can't find one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riceyummm Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 I find the pictured hoe to be too heavy for weeding. There is also a lightweight one with a rounded blade. Easier for weeding. Available a most farm supply shops out in the country. I can't find a picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancealot Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Hoe's are not advertised that much, it is common knowledge.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TongueThaied Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 You can get a western style hoe (imported from the US) at True Value Hardware in Bangkok or Pattaya. There are several grades available from wood handle to lifetime fiberglass handle. It really depends on how bad you want one, though, as you will pay dearly at TV. If you want one, go to any True Value Hardware site on the Internet, choose the one you want, get the True Value SKU and you can call or e-mail TV here to order it. See Business card for contact information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samuijimmy Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 I got a local welding shop to make this, about 3 years ago, and it's held up well.... If I remember it cost me 300 or 400 baht.. Metal 1/2 inch handle, made from tubing, available from hard ware stores, the hoe its self was a good steel plate ground down .... pointed edges ....it's been perfect! They used a piece of re-bar to connect handle to hoe. Even my Thai neighbours find it easier to use than the usual heavy choppers they usually use... Wood handles tend to rot too quickly, the tubing is light enough not to be too heavy.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 This is what in Oz we call a Dutch hoe - slide it slightly below soil surface to chop of weeds . Below looks like a Larry's Hoe - used for mixing cement . Often has two holes in it it to make it easier to drag thru the cement mix. Much quicker than using a shovel for mixing cement . These i have always known as Italian hoes - i guess because a lot of the early immigrants to Oz were Italians and many of them bacame market gardeners . I use these for hilling corn , peas and beans and general cultivation . There are also what we call 3 pronged cultivators but they are not much use in weed control. Different locations, different names . None of them any more correct than any other name.I didn't know the Thai name for the "Italian " hoes but have seen them in some of the hardware shops . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montrii Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 Go to any town or village hardware store and ask for a "Jop" (kind of long drawn out sound), that has always got me to what I know as a hoe. Right. actually the sound is more like "jawp" (จอบ), long vowel, long tone, the "j" sound unvoiced, kind of like the "tj" in German "tja." But that's the closest thing to that particular non-sniggerworthy farm implement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermanhesse Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Hoes 4 Sale???? Try Loh Kroy Road in Chiang Mai. There's plenty of 'em. And it's all organic farming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawrenceN Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Go to any town or village hardware store and ask for a "Jop" (kind of long drawn out sound), that has always got me to what I know as a hoe. I think that the word is Jawk, the asian hoe. But it is not really ideal for weeding. I have kept looking for what I know as a hoe, but I think that I will have to bring one back when I am next in the UK. No, the original comment is closer to the Thai word จอบ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loong Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Go to any town or village hardware store and ask for a "Jop" (kind of long drawn out sound), that has always got me to what I know as a hoe. I think that the word is Jawk, the asian hoe. But it is not really ideal for weeding. I have kept looking for what I know as a hoe, but I think that I will have to bring one back when I am next in the UK. No, the original comment is closer to the Thai word จอบ Did you not see my later post? I apologise, I should have typed Jawb, not Jawk. You are absolutely right Jop is good with the vowel drawn out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rice555 Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Hello All, these can be used as a hoe, they come in 3-4 different widths. This was DoHome Korat, have seen at Lotus before. The pic has 3 different sizes. rice555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vijer Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Go to any town or village hardware store and ask for a "Jop" (kind of long drawn out sound), that has always got me to what I know as a hoe. Yep, plenty of hoes like that around Thailand. I see them every day being used by Thai's to mix cement. But truly if you want a proper tool you will most likely need to bring it with you from an advanced country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripstanley Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Go to any town or village hardware store and ask for a "Jop" (kind of long drawn out sound), that has always got me to what I know as a hoe. Yep, plenty of hoes like that around Thailand. I see them every day being used by Thai's to mix cement. But truly if you want a proper tool you will most likely need to bring it with you from an advanced country. Every house in our village has a hoe. They can have a wooden handle or a metal hadle. I bought one from a local market with a metal handle which was welded to the head. It was 150 baht and works well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldestswinger Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Steely Dan; I was convinced that a dutch hoe would be better for weeding here, so I got my daughter to bring me a head of one when she visited from the UK. I soon found that in the dry clay soil in my part of Isan it was useless. No wonder the Thais have never bothered with it and use a jop! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samuijimmy Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Steely Dan; I was convinced that a dutch hoe would be better for weeding here, so I got my daughter to bring me a head of one when she visited from the UK. I soon found that in the dry clay soil in my part of Isan it was useless. No wonder the Thais have never bothered with it and use a jop! Yes it really depends on the soil you are working with hoes... the one I had made, (posted above) I find is the most versatile.... back and forth motion.... "Copy" of what the call the "winged weeder" in Canada and US. (not sure if else where) ..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooked Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Sorry, I love my 'pendelhacke' I used this for 40 years. Maybe I have the only one in Thailand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Hi Cooked , What is a pendlehacke ? Could you give us a photo ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooked Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Post 7, the first foto. The blade moves a little depending on whether you are pushing or pulling, keeping it at the ideal angle to the earth. Really ideal for dry earth, my wife took to it immediately and we now have a clean vegetable garden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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