meme Posted February 23, 2006 Posted February 23, 2006 While I know tourist/visitor visa applicants have to make it on there own merit, I am still using letters for my bfs visa applicaitons for the US and Canada from my parents. Is it important that they send proof of their income? Also for a month visit in both US and Canada, do you think 40,000 in his bank is enough? Thanks.
GU22 Posted February 23, 2006 Posted February 23, 2006 For the UK, if someone is sponsoring a visitor and offering to financially support them during the trip then they have to provide evidence that they can afford to do so. I imagine that the US and Canada require the same. How much? Depends on the length of the visit, where they will be staying etc.
marshbags Posted March 16, 2006 Posted March 16, 2006 For the UK, if someone is sponsoring a visitor and offering to financially support them during the trip then they have to provide evidence that they can afford to do so. I imagine that the US and Canada require the same.How much? Depends on the length of the visit, where they will be staying etc. Hope you don,t mind me using this thread meme for some additional advice on the topic. Hiya GU22 rather than enquire seperately and as this is connected to this topic. May i further enquire, If someone is visiting the uk for a holiday what are the financial requirements needed for 1 month. They will have medical insurance to cover their visit are retired on a teachers pension along with other income, own their Thai home and are financially sound. Do they still need financial info from the people they are visiting/staying with please. Do they need a letter to state their friends are providing the accomodation and any other details. When will they need to buy a return air ticket i.e. before/after the visit to apply for the visa as someone told them they needed it before. This doesn,t make sense to me because if a visa isn,t granted then an air ticket is not needed. Maybe it is required for some reason but again i would think it wouldn,t be needed until the actual granting. Can my friend apply without having to get financial info from the uk host. Thank you for your understanding and any extra advice that may help would be welcome. I,ve searched for info on T.Visa but couldn,t locate any that was relevant apart from this topic. marshbags
GU22 Posted March 16, 2006 Posted March 16, 2006 Hi, Marshbags. I'm just about to leave for work, but I'll give you a detailed answer later. (Unless Scouse or Vinny do so first!)
vinny Posted March 16, 2006 Posted March 16, 2006 (edited) Marshbags, first see 10.2 Requirements for a visitor under the Rules. See Guidance - Visitors (INF 2), in particular, What supporting documents should I include with my application? Guidance - Sponsors (INF 3), in particular, What evidence can I supply? There is no prescribed minimum figure for what represents sufficient maintenance. Have a look at Chapter 9 – The maintenance and accommodation requirements for details of what they do expect in general. See especially 9.3 Maintenance: General requirements and 9.4 Accommodation: General requirements. There is no need to buy air tickets before the visa is issued. Edited March 16, 2006 by vinny
GU22 Posted March 16, 2006 Posted March 16, 2006 The links provided by Vinny should answer most of your questions, but I'd like to cover a couple of specifics. Do they still need financial info from the people they are visiting/staying with please.Only if the people they are visiting are offering to pay for all or part of the trip, or support them whilst in the UK. If they are funding the trip entirely from their own resources, and have the bank records etc. to prove that they can, then there is no need for their UK host to provide any financial details.Do they need a letter to state their friends are providing the accommodation and any other details.Yes, if they are offering accommodation then the UK host should write a brief letter outlining the relationship and reason for the visit, together with brief details of the accommodation on offer. If the property is owned, then some proof of this, mortgage statement or copy of deeds. If rented, then a letter from the landlord confirming that there is room for the guest and they have no objection to them staying there.
soic Posted March 16, 2006 Posted March 16, 2006 Hi, I can tell you from experience on the US part. I sponsored my Ex-wife's family to go to America. It the amount of supporting documents depends on your verifiable income and number of dependents in the household. I-864-P The poverty line is as follows: for the sponsor's household size. They must have an annual income of 2 persons $16,500 3 persons $20,750 4 persons $29,250 5 persons $33,500 If they have an income of those amounts or greater they can fill out the paperwork, attach a w-2 or 1099 showing only that income. If they have less income than shown for the number of household dependants then you would have to show savings, equity in the real estate and so on. Something to bear in mind when doing a sponsorship. The sponsor is obligated for the immigrant until they leave the US, become a US citizen or die. If the immigrant incurs any legal debt, or draws any public assistance the sponsor is obligated to compensate for the debt or the local provider. I also know from experience, the stronger the ties that you can show for your b/f to Thailand, the easier it is to get a visitors visa. When presenting the visa application, take with you copies of any bank account records for Thailand, Apartment lease, car lease or loan papers, deeds anything that would show that he must return to Thailand. Writing a letter telling the consul where you intend to go, what you intend to do, the dates you plan on returning and promising to cover any and all debts he incurs while he is with you on your visit. I also told them that I would provide food, shelter and transportation. Seems like a lot, but it could save you a lot of time and headache. I did this for my Ex-wife and former in-laws, they each recieved their stamped visa's in an hour. My friend blew it off and just went with the papers and his w-2 and it took them 6 months to get his g/f's visa. One of my employees tried to take his Phillipina wife from Kuwait to the US for a visit, the first time he said he had it handled. They didn't get it. I wrote them a letter, attached all of those documents, the cosul looked at the letter, looked at the income and gave them the visa. Trust me, it works. Good luck!
vinny Posted March 16, 2006 Posted March 16, 2006 USA Visitor visa and Visitor Visa to USA also list suggested documents. See also Coming to America - Getting Your Visitors Visa and U.S. Embassy Bangkok. Application Form DS-156 in Thai.
marshbags Posted March 17, 2006 Posted March 17, 2006 (edited) The links provided by Vinny should answer most of your questions, but I'd like to cover a couple of specifics. Many thanks, GU22 and Vinny for your much appreciated dedication and hard work on behalf of all T.Visa members and in particular the information you have provided for myself. I also know Scouse would have responded had it been needed along with all the visa moderators. I know from reading the visa section on a regular basis all the quality assistance and help you provide along with giving all of us guide lines for future reference. Again for all the cynics of T.Visa in all our sections, we as members are very lucky to have such a vast amount of experience and knowledge at our fingertips. This is fact and deserved recognition so please cynics, do not undermine it with snide comments. Thanks again and my friend can now get on with applying without having to further trouble her U.K. accomodation providers. marshbags Edited March 17, 2006 by marshbags
marshbags Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 (edited) Marshbags, first see 10.2 Requirements for a visitor under the Rules. See Guidance - Visitors (INF 2), in particular, What supporting documents should I include with my application? Guidance - Sponsors (INF 3), in particular, What evidence can I supply? There is no prescribed minimum figure for what represents sufficient maintenance. Have a look at Chapter 9 – The maintenance and accommodation requirements for details of what they do expect in general. See especially 9.3 Maintenance: General requirements and 9.4 Accommodation: General requirements. There is no need to buy air tickets before the visa is issued. Hiya T. Visa forum, My friend went for her visitors visa and was granted it no problem. If i can refer to the guidance notes supplied by the B.Embassy, one thing it doesn,t mention is that a photo copy of the sponsors Passport to prove they are citizens of the u.k. is needed. This is in addition to the letter supplied by the sponsor. and should be sent with it. In the notes there is no mention of this requirement. I have down loaded the relevant guidance notes for reference. The fact that my friend was a retired government official helped her due to proving all the other documents as per instructions. The interviewing officer used his descretion and decided to grant the visa. ( well done the official for using his judgement in a sensible way ) Anyway thought it would be beneficial to let you know of this additional requirement just in case you weren,t aware of this. Thanks again to vinny, GU22 and all T.Visa moderators on this forum for doing a great job on all our behalves. My friend is very pleased for your assistance and guidance. See Guidance - Visitors (INF 2), in particular, What supporting documents should I include with my application? What supporting documents should I include with my application? You should include all the documents you can to show that you qualify for entry to the UK as a visitor. If you do not, we may refuse your application. As a guide, you should include: ท bank statements, payslips, or some other evidence to show that you can pay for the trip and that you have enough money to support yourself and any dependants without working or getting any help from public funds, and ท evidence that you intend to leave the UK at the end of your visit (for example, a letter from your employer). If you are visiting family or friends you will need: ท a letter from your sponsor (the person you are visiting) explaining your relationship with them and the purpose of your visit. Thanks again everybody. marshbags P.S. The embassy also asked for a schedule of her touring and where she would be visitng in addtion to all the other information. Obviously if the applicant says they will only be staying at there sponsors address it is not needed. I advised her to say the above but she told them she may visit other places so hence the request for the additional info. cheers. Edited March 29, 2006 by marshbags
GU22 Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 Congrats on the visa, I hope she enjoys the visit! If i can refer to the guidance notes supplied by the B.Embassy, one thing it doesn,t mention is that a photo copy of the sponsors Passport to prove they are citizens of the u.k. is needed. Guidance - Sponsors (INF 3); What evidence can I supply? does sayYou may want to produce evidence of your own immigration status in the UKwhich gives the impression that it's not strictly necessary. However, I would say that it is necessary, as you found out.Guidance - Husbands, wives and partners (INF 4) ; What supporting documents should I include with my application? does say that you should include your sponsor’s birth certificateThis is to show that s/he is entitled to reside in the UK, although a passport is an acceptable alternative.Whatever type of visa you are sponsoring I recommend that you always include your passport, or certified copy of it, as part of the evidence. This is because it will prove the number of visits you have made to Thailand and how long for; so is further evidence of your relationship with the applicant.
marshbags Posted March 30, 2006 Posted March 30, 2006 Congrats on the visa, I hope she enjoys the visit!If i can refer to the guidance notes supplied by the B.Embassy, one thing it doesn,t mention is that a photo copy of the sponsors Passport to prove they are citizens of the u.k. is needed. Guidance - Sponsors (INF 3); What evidence can I supply? does sayYou may want to produce evidence of your own immigration status in the UKwhich gives the impression that it's not strictly necessary. However, I would say that it is necessary, as you found out.Guidance - Husbands, wives and partners (INF 4) ; What supporting documents should I include with my application? does say that you should include your sponsor’s birth certificateThis is to show that s/he is entitled to reside in the UK, although a passport is an acceptable alternative.Whatever type of visa you are sponsoring I recommend that you always include your passport, or certified copy of it, as part of the evidence. This is because it will prove the number of visits you have made to Thailand and how long for; so is further evidence of your relationship with the applicant. Thanks GU22 I must admit that it is a logical thing to request after reading the relevant section again. I didn,t look to much into this as you rightly point out. I also thought that as the visitor was funding herself from Thailand it wasn,t needed. I over looked the fact that her accomodation was being provided by the sponsor as a factor. I always make a point of taking as much information i have over and above what is required, just in case and asked my friend to do the same. As this visa interview shows and you advise, it is important to provide the additional evidence on your sponsors U.K.status. Thanks again and may i pass on to you genuine gratitude from my friend who is very happy with being granted it. She,s going on the 4th April for up to 6 months. marshbags
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