93-Year Old Australian Accused Of Sexually Assaulting 4 Young Thai Children

[cup-O-coffee]

There are some folks on here who are really really unpleasant people!

Cup-o-coffee

Great post. Why not visit him and ask to be part of the team that represents

him, then go check out all that puter stuff. I do believe you make some

really good points, and, guilty or not, all the questions you raise need

sound professionally based answers.

Thank you. Agreed! Guilty or not is the question. Were I empowered with the awesomeness of the Australian government, I would in no simple terms tell PM Ying Luck that all of my citizens who are being accused of serious crimes will have all the collected evidence reviewed by the Head dog at the Embassy or Consulate, or that Thailand will be facing serious sanctions on the grounds of International Human Rights Violations. That is one Bluff they would not call. Government people these days are nothing but a bunch of panty wastes. They'd never put their greedy interests on the line for even one of their citizens. I hate 'em all. Muffins! Sheesh!

I'd like to hustle away any of these naive posters when they are 93 years old and place them in the worst possible conditions and then put them through a process that would suck the energy of even a 20 year old human being. The fact that the Thai Mafia is keeping this one close to their chests tells me that their pride has been hurt and that FACE is as important to them as money. Hence, it does not necessarily have to be about money or whether or not he is on a pension. You piss off a Thai copper and you are screwed. He will spite a trillion Bahts just to get even with you. As former Prime Minister Pridi Phanomyong once said, "I’m afraid you don’t know how bad a people we can be.”

Innocent until proven guilty. This is clearly a scam. There is no history on him other than what Thai police say to the world, and they are lying because they cannot show the evidence that only that Thai police "say" and "allege" exists and is in the possession of the Thai police.

The main article is published in the Sydney Morning Herald. It usually follows that when a foreign newspaper prints something like this, a little background on the person is mentioned, or there is some summary statement of his criminal past. There is no such mention. 93 years is a long ways to go to hide a sickness that he is being accused of.

I'd like to see his hard drive and check out when those photos were added to the hard drive. I'd like to check out those emails and their IP addresses and the dates on them. I'd like to see his history of use on his PC and be able to know for sure that he is that well skilled to even operate a PC, which most 93 year old men and women have no clue, let alone being able to open up and create an email account. There are a lot of things I'd like to say to the police and to demand that they bring forth to prove their allegations and what the accusers said. These are things the two embassy officials should have been all over like white on rice. Instead they bring muffins. What a couple of utter ineffective <deleted>. Ah yes; the Thai police; Saints among us sinners. Scum who have a known reputation for being corrupt, lying, shooting people, blackmailing people, protecting known murderers, rapists, the wealthy, collaborating with every sordid person known to man.

It is a hard cold fact that at any time any foreigner could be accused by any Thai over any thing and the foreigner will indeed be held accountable over what a Thai said and what a Thai alleges. It is also a cold hard fact that once the police get involved, any foreigner will not simply be allowed to be vindicated as easily as some of these naive posters suggest. Unless that foreigner has absolute proof that they are innocent, and the Thai police know it, then lies become fact. Evidence that does not exist becomes a reality. Mystery becomes certainty.

Do the police fabricate and lie and threaten and carry through with absolute impunity? Absolutely.

The only thing I know about this old man is that the Thai police are after his ass and they have nothing to show for it. That is all I need to know. The fact that they cannot even show any evidence to the consulate or the ambassador of the country he is from also tells me that consulates and ambassadors are worthless pieces of (Rule No.3) when it comes to demanding justice and protection for their citizens. Those two officials from the Australian embassy should have their heads caved in. Bringing him muffins??? Why not tell the police to show the evidence or release their citizen into their custody for protection from a hostile country who is falsely accusing one of their citizens of a very very serious charge?

Thailand is a great place to be until you get caught up with the police or any other Thais who have control of some "angle".; for any reason. Even foreign businesses who come here to have a legitimate operation know better and tell the police and other Thai crooks that they will be operating their businesses by the book, and that "offers" of assistance will be flatly refused.

I hope none of you foreigners ever get accused by any Thai and have the police get involved. Either way, you end up paying just to keep them from pressing even harder and absolutely fabricating the worst kind of hell you can imagine. Ya think it's not true. Ya shouldn't.

Regards your comments on the Australian Embassy requesting evidence or indeed the accused lawyer. From the US Chiang Mai Consulate website "There is no discovery process in the Thai court system, so you do not have access to evidence before the trial"

Thanks, and I may be off here, but what does the US Consulate in Chiang Mai have to do with an Australian Citizen and the two ineffective Aussie Embassy Officials who brought him muffins? And shouldn't they have instead demanded that the police show the evidence and that the man get a physical check up and be moved to more sanitary quarters with a policeman to stand guard over him?

It really seems out of whack that a 93 year old man can be accused by known liars, and whether he is guilty or not, his government limits their knowledge of his existence with a few token muffins, and flat out refuses defending any of his human rights leading up to his trial. Yet when a few goat herders in Pakistan, in the middle of no man's land are "suspected" of being the masterminds behind a plot to destroy the United States of America from over 12,000 miles away, President I'llbombya sends in drones and murders an entire village. It doesn't matter that one is Australia and the other is US of A. They are all a pack of butchering, back-stabbing scum who use their citizens like pawns on their own chess board.

Nisa. You have some good points, but may I remind you this is Thailand; not the USA or Australia. You follow the rules here like the noble little person you are, and turn yourself in and you'll find you've made the biggest mistake of your career as a free person. Why do you think the Thais flee the scene? What honor and justice is there in turning yourself in when you are walking into a pit of vipers, especially when you are 93 years old, on a pension, all alone in the world and most adamant about your innocence (he did say he is innocent, Nisa, so give him the same credit that you give to known liars)? When in Rome, do as the Romans. Nisa, there is a reason the Thais flee the scene. It is because they understand fully the consequences of turning one's own self in to Thai justice!

[simple1]

@cup-O-coffee: Post #241 - The reason I quoted the US consulate website was it's the only official/government supported site I could locate for insight into the Thai legal system for pretrial "discovery". Again as the discovery process is currently not supported by Thai law, I do not see how anyone can demand to view prosecution evidence prior to trial.

[Thorgal]

Oh yes,

Can I take pictures like your avatar ?

Can I send them by mail overseas ?

Can I plan after all this a trip to Rangoon, all together to celebrate our innocence and submits to your abiding rules ?

Thank you so much !

If You think you may like a picture of Pat Sharp, you and he are both way over consenting age so feel free. same applies to question 2. You may also go to Rangoon as long as you are not skipping bail and have a passport.

Strange how you see a consenting adult putting a picture on the net for others to use and enjoy as in way similar to some dirty old raincoat man taking pictures of children. maybe you need counselling...........

Oh, I see, but I didn't know that the old German was wearing a raincoat constantly...

He's clearly a hardcore pedophile !

[cup-O-coffee]

@cup-O-coffee: Post #241 - The reason I quoted the US consulate website was it's the only official/government supported site I could locate for insight into the Thai legal system for pretrial "discovery". Again as the discovery process is currently not supported by Thai law, I do not see how anyone can demand to view prosecution evidence prior to trial.

You are correct. And I will illustrate the importance of keeping a pair of running shoes handy in the event you ever get accused of anything. The embassies and consulates around the world are castrating themselves to the point of being absolutely worthless. Citizens from Australia, the USA and England get better service from 7-11 than they do from these concrete piles which house the most worthless humans on the planet. Pay your taxes, have your pension sucked dry by your governments, and listen to them say, "Let them eat muffins!" when you are accused and rotting in a prison under absolutely hole riddled evidence.

Now we are getting somewhere. Now we understand that when your get ACCUSED (emphasis on accused) of a crime in Thailand, you will be wise to do absolutely anything to avoid getting involved with the police until such a time that you can either get the right corrupt representation and backing to counter their lies and trickery and buy your way out of that accusation (whether guilty or not, because that does not matter), or get the hell out of Thailand. There is no other option unless you want to be detained in such a manner that the International Human Rights organizations decry and you will live to regret to your dying day.

So, if anyone pulls a runner and tries to leave Thailand when they are accused, it does not mean they are guilty. If the Thai police say that they have evidence and cannot produce that evidence for more than three years let alone three days, then that does not necessarily mean that they are guilty. If a bunch of kids and adults say he did this or he did that, it does not necessarily mean they are guilty. If the person is labeled as accused and there are no people mentioned as doing the accusing other than the police say that is the way it is, then that does not necessarily mean they are guilty.

Thais will run. They will flee the scene. I used to think they were scum for doing so. I used to think they were fleeing from justice. Now I know better, Thais are fleeing from the maw of the hungry lion. They are not stupid. They simply understand what I am trying to prove; and that is, doing the decent thing in Thailand is what all Thais count on because it makes you vulnerable to every sordid kind of trickery and blackmail and false culpability. Being decent is seen as a sign of weakness to most Asian countries. It is no different than vampires counting on you freezing with fright and standing there while they grab you and sink their teeth into your throat.

This is why the Thai police do not follow the justice process of other countries, simply because you see it as a justice system (and it pleases them that you do) and I see it as a corrupt, money making industry that operates under the illusion of a justice system. They do not give one damn about who was murdered, or who was beaten or abused or stabbed or robbed or smashed by a minivan or what have you. It seems every case is surrounded by mystery and the macabre.

Whether guilty or not; Run Like Hell and don't look back or come back unless you have the clout to pay your way out of something that you were very very unfortunate to get involved in, or tried to get away with and got caught. The Thais don't care if you are guilty or not. You may, but they absolutely do not! They only care about you kissing their asses and paying them a lot of money. They'll eat their own if you do that. Say it ain't so, and then cite a few examples and I'll match your few to hundreds of such cases listed on these very pages.

Sound crazy? It is, and you'll thank me for this advice if you ever get accused of something in this otherwise lovely country. It's not crime, mate! It's business; whether guilty or not! When the deal goes sour, run and live another day because that is exactly what every single Thai in all of these hundreds and hundreds of pages of crime stories do.

[Thorgal]

@cup-O-coffee: Post #241 - The reason I quoted the US consulate website was it's the only official/government supported site I could locate for insight into the Thai legal system for pretrial "discovery". Again as the discovery process is currently not supported by Thai law, I do not see how anyone can demand to view prosecution evidence prior to trial.

The Asian Human Rights Commission called the Thai legal system a "mess" and called for a drastic overhaul of Thailand's criminal procedures. It cited the rampant use of forced confessions, and the fact that even a senior justice ministry official admitted that 30% of cases went to court with no evidence. There are no stenographic records kept by the trial court and the record is composed of what the judges decide. It also criticized the judiciary for failing to ensure that trials are conducted speedily.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judiciary_of_Thailand

...most of Farangs and thai citizens are not aware of that..."Muffin" Embassy's and Consulates are well aware of this...

Edited March 8, 2013 by Thorgal

[JeremyBowskill]

Oh yes,

Can I take pictures like your avatar ?

Can I send them by mail overseas ?

Can I plan after all this a trip to Rangoon, all together to celebrate our innocence and submits to your abiding rules ?

Thank you so much !

If You think you may like a picture of Pat Sharp, you and he are both way over consenting age so feel free. same applies to question 2. You may also go to Rangoon as long as you are not skipping bail and have a passport.

Strange how you see a consenting adult putting a picture on the net for others to use and enjoy as in way similar to some dirty old raincoat man taking pictures of children. maybe you need counselling...........

Oh, I see, but I didn't know that the old German was wearing a raincoat constantly...

He's clearly a hardcore pedophile !

Pick 1 word out of a sentence to back up your pedo-friendly viewpoint if you must but it doesn't change much.

Still doesn't explain why you think me putting a picture of A 80's icon DJ as my avatar is the same as some sex case taking pictures of kids.

Your more confused than Scooby Doo.

Edited March 8, 2013 by JeremyBowskill

[Thorgal]

Oh yes,

Can I take pictures like your avatar ?

Can I send them by mail overseas ?

Can I plan after all this a trip to Rangoon, all together to celebrate our innocence and submits to your abiding rules ?

Thank you so much !

If You think you may like a picture of Pat Sharp, you and he are both way over consenting age so feel free. same applies to question 2. You may also go to Rangoon as long as you are not skipping bail and have a passport.

Strange how you see a consenting adult putting a picture on the net for others to use and enjoy as in way similar to some dirty old raincoat man taking pictures of children. maybe you need counselling...........

Oh, I see, but I didn't know that the old German was wearing a raincoat constantly...

He's clearly a hardcore pedophile !

Pick 1 word out of a sentence to back up your pedo-friendly viewpoint if you must but it doesn't change much.

Still doesn't explain why you think me putting a picture of A 80's icon DJ as my avatar is the same as some sex case taking pictures of kids.

Your more confused than Scooby Doo.

The 'degree of nudity' of your avatar is as questionable as the supposed 100 pictures found from the old German.

But an avatar of Scooby Doo is completely acceptable for all children's' eye's. If you know what I mean...

[JeremyBowskill]

Thorgal.

So having a fully clothed man on an avatar is somehow comparable to having 100's of images of kiddies on your pc in your world? hope you are not 1 of Thailands many useless English teachers with free access to kids, cos clearly you can't see the line in the sand.

[jackspratt]

Thorgal.

So having a fully clothed man on an avatar is somehow comparable to having 100's of images of kiddies on your pc in your world? hope you are not 1 of Thailands many useless English teachers with free access to kids, cos clearly you can't see the line in the sand.

Your obsession is both impressive, and at the same time, disturbing.

[Nisa]

Nisa. You have some good points, but may I remind you this is Thailand; not the USA or Australia. You follow the rules here like the noble little person you are, and turn yourself in and you'll find you've made the biggest mistake of your career as a free person. Why do you think the Thais flee the scene? What honor and justice is there in turning yourself in when you are walking into a pit of vipers, especially when you are 93 years old, on a pension, all alone in the world and most adamant about your innocence (he did say he is innocent, Nisa, so give him the same credit that you give to known liars)? When in Rome, do as the Romans. Nisa, there is a reason the Thais flee the scene. It is because they understand fully the consequences of turning one's own self in to Thai justice!

When you talk about flee the scene, I assume you mean the stories we hear about of hit and run drivers as I am not sure it is standard practice anywhere for child molesters, bank robbers or other criminals to wait around for the police or turn themselves in. So, lets first assume that hit and run accident are not also common in other places, especially by drunks, uninsured and/or unlicensed. Lets also assume that there isn't a great number of folks who flee in Thailand after an accident only to turn themselves in later. Once we do that we can then look to see why Thailand possibly has this problem more and we can come to the simple conclusion that there is no real penalty for fleeing the scene of an accident in Thailand and if you have been drinking it is in your best interest to flee and then turn yourself in later to avoid the penalties of being drunk and causing an accident.

My point is that relating hit and run accidents is well off the mark and absolutely no connection.

This guy was arrested and he was allowed out pending trial and he chose to flee. He didn't turn himself in the first time but instead the big bad lying police took him from his home and he was still allowed out on bail. He then chose to flee the country. In other words, there is clear evidence he broke the law and he is not one to keep his word and he cannot be trusted and nothing at all to indicate the police or justice system treated him unfairly. In how many other country's would a foreigner, regardless of age, accused by three girls of child molestation and finding child porn in his home be allowed out on bail? What country after granting bail in such a crime, due to the old guys age and health, would give him a second chance of bail once he fled the country?

You can talk all you want about problems with the Thai police or its justice system as you can just about any country but it doesn't mean people don't commit crimes and that bad people shouldn't be tried and sentenced. If there has been anything reported to indicate the police, prosecutors, courts, 3 child victims, children's parents, neighbors and the maid have conspired against a 90+ year old man then I have missed it. The stories I have read seem to indicate that authorities have been more than fair to him and he has proven he is not somebody who can be trusted.

Personally if I thought the justice system was so corrupt in a country and it was common place for such things as mass conspiracies by citizens, the government and my embassy in this country then I would have to say it would be the last place I would ever choose to live let alone visit.

[ozziebloke]

@

cup-O-coffee

From your posts 232,241,244. It is like your writing a novel on your dislike especially of Thailand but also the USA,Australia and Great Britian. Then again I was thinking you maybe are related to the 93 year old defendant? Then I was thinking you are correct that the rest of the world including beginning with Thailand have all colluded against this old man to extort from him the megre pension he has to get rich? Shame should be put on those kids to even suggest that they were uncomfortable! ( being polite here ) with what they alledge happened and shame on the parents for taking it to the autorities to investigate, Then there is shame on his own legal force for not showing the mistakes that you have said, shame on his own government and his lawyers for not contacting you and giving you all the evidence, photo's and suppositions regarding the case! And shame on himself and his lawyers, first of all skipping bail then arguing that he is not able to stand for trial. Shame beause according to you this is not fair to the old man, forget about the kids, those canniving little scoundrels I suggest all TV posters on this thread just forgive this old man because obviously he is so innocent and it's all just a big conspiracy contrived by 4 young Thai children. Shame on those kids.......

[Thorgal]

How to exclude any form of conspiracy :

"According to the Bangkok Post, Kraus—who has lived in Thailand more than a decade—once argued he was a victim of police extortion when he was charged with rape in a previous case".

+ Concerning the landscape of pedophilia :

- How did the Thai community reacted after his first charges in another previous case and surely after the fact that those charges have been dropped by Thai officials ?

- Are you still convinced that his neighbors and housemaid are suffering from the syndrome of Korsakov ?

+ Concerning the digital evidences :

- How was the electronic data handled?

- Who handled the data?

- Is the person suitably qualified to handle the data?

- What method was used to preserve the data?

- What is the likely-hood of change having occurred to the data?

+ Concerning Thai digital forensic research (Electronic Transaction Act B.E 2544 (2001) :

- Can you confirm the authenticity, the relevance and integrity of all concerned/collected data ?

- Authenticity of the evidence refers to the ability to assess the integrity of the evidence and the courts need to consider the following key points:

- Has the data been produced in its entirety?

- Is it possible to demonstrate that no change has occurred to the data?

- Is there a complete audit trail for the handling of the data through to the production of exhibits?

- Would an independent third party be able to reproduce the steps taken and achieve the same results?

- Is the Chiang Mai Court able to handle digital forensic research and apply strictly following sections :

Section 7 of the act states the following:

“Information shall not be denied legal effect and enforceability solely on the ground that it is in the form of a data message”.

Section 11 of the act states the following:

“The admissibility of a data message as evidence in the legal proceedings shall not be denied solely on the grounds that it is a data message.

Edited March 8, 2013 by Thorgal

[Nisa]

lets not dismiss older folks of being capable of things solely based on their age ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryJBmwzYfaM

[Thaddeus]

@

cup-O-coffee

From your posts 232,241,244. It is like your writing a novel on your dislike especially of Thailand but also the USA,Australia and Great Britian. Then again I was thinking you maybe are related to the 93 year old defendant? Then I was thinking you are correct that the rest of the world including beginning with Thailand have all colluded against this old man to extort from him the megre pension he has to get rich? Shame should be put on those kids to even suggest that they were uncomfortable! ( being polite here ) with what they alledge happened and shame on the parents for taking it to the autorities to investigate, Then there is shame on his own legal force for not showing the mistakes that you have said, shame on his own government and his lawyers for not contacting you and giving you all the evidence, photo's and suppositions regarding the case! And shame on himself and his lawyers, first of all skipping bail then arguing that he is not able to stand for trial. Shame beause according to you this is not fair to the old man, forget about the kids, those canniving little scoundrels I suggest all TV posters on this thread just forgive this old man because obviously he is so innocent and it's all just a big conspiracy contrived by 4 young Thai children. Shame on those kids.......

What kids?

[agnusmaximus]

@

cup-O-coffee

From your posts 232,241,244. It is like your writing a novel on your dislike especially of Thailand but also the USA,Australia and Great Britian. Then again I was thinking you maybe are related to the 93 year old defendant? Then I was thinking you are correct that the rest of the world including beginning with Thailand have all colluded against this old man to extort from him the megre pension he has to get rich? Shame should be put on those kids to even suggest that they were uncomfortable! ( being polite here ) with what they alledge happened and shame on the parents for taking it to the autorities to investigate, Then there is shame on his own legal force for not showing the mistakes that you have said, shame on his own government and his lawyers for not contacting you and giving you all the evidence, photo's and suppositions regarding the case! And shame on himself and his lawyers, first of all skipping bail then arguing that he is not able to stand for trial. Shame beause according to you this is not fair to the old man, forget about the kids, those canniving little scoundrels I suggest all TV posters on this thread just forgive this old man because obviously he is so innocent and it's all just a big conspiracy contrived by 4 young Thai children. Shame on those kids.......

What kids?

good point ozziebloke. You have an aptitude for making a point.

Edited March 8, 2013 by agnusmaximus

[ozziebloke]

@

cup-O-coffee

From your posts 232,241,244. It is like your writing a novel on your dislike especially of Thailand but also the USA,Australia and Great Britian. Then again I was thinking you maybe are related to the 93 year old defendant? Then I was thinking you are correct that the rest of the world including beginning with Thailand have all colluded against this old man to extort from him the megre pension he has to get rich? Shame should be put on those kids to even suggest that they were uncomfortable! ( being polite here ) with what they alledge happened and shame on the parents for taking it to the autorities to investigate, Then there is shame on his own legal force for not showing the mistakes that you have said, shame on his own government and his lawyers for not contacting you and giving you all the evidence, photo's and suppositions regarding the case! And shame on himself and his lawyers, first of all skipping bail then arguing that he is not able to stand for trial. Shame beause according to you this is not fair to the old man, forget about the kids, those canniving little scoundrels I suggest all TV posters on this thread just forgive this old man because obviously he is so innocent and it's all just a big conspiracy contrived by 4 young Thai children. Shame on those kids.......

What kids?

Oh the ones that live next door to me here in Oz

[BigC]

Police allege they seized more than 100 photographs of naked children, including some with Mr Kraus posing with them.

Police say Mr Kraus gave his young victims money. They also

allege he emailed some obscene pictures overseas, suggesting he was part

of an international paedophilia network.

Hopefully he chokes on his next fresh muffin.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/93year-old-australian-accused-of-child-rape-in-thailand-20130305-2fhhs.html#ixzz2McW0fjfP

Charges should not be dropped due to health he should suffere as much stress as possible in his last few days onn here

[brewsterbudgen]

Am so glad am out of this sick place, even years after leaving, you still get the look of a sex offender when you say you lived in Thailand...The sad thing is Thai's also think thats what most of the farang are there for...All I can say is if any of you are planning to come back and live at home be prepared to be looked at in a bad way when you say you live in Thailand

What nonsense.

[chooka]

Police allege they seized more than 100 photographs of naked children, including some with Mr Kraus posing with them.

Police say Mr Kraus gave his young victims money. They also

allege he emailed some obscene pictures overseas, suggesting he was part

of an international paedophilia network.

Hopefully he chokes on his next fresh muffin.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/93year-old-australian-accused-of-child-rape-in-thailand-20130305-2fhhs.html#ixzz2McW0fjfP

Charges should not be dropped due to health he should suffere as much stress as possible in his last few days onn here

Suffer even before being found guilty of an offence????? I love to see pedophilles suffer but I generally like the case to be proven before they are sentenced.

[Potosi]

What would you believe if the papers reported that this old guy beat up Vitaly Klitchko in a barfight? Does the charge that he "raped four sisters" really make more sense?

[metisdead]

Inflammatory troll baiting posts have been removed as well as the replies.

[Buchholz]

What would you believe if the papers reported that this old guy beat up Vitaly Klitchko in a barfight? Does the charge that he "raped four sisters" really make more sense?

Yes.

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[ozziebloke]

What would you believe if the papers reported that this old guy beat up Vitaly Klitchko in a barfight? Does the charge that he "raped four sisters" really make more sense?

Again I will say that this is a rediculous comparison! You need to find out about all the definitions of rape. It is not only defined as intercourse. Try not to be so ignorant

[chooka]

What would you believe if the papers reported that this old guy beat up Vitaly Klitchko in a barfight? Does the charge that he "raped four sisters" really make more sense?

Who is Vitaly Klitchko? Is he a 100 yr old who was set upon by a young thug???

[Thorgal]

What would you believe if the papers reported that this old guy beat up Vitaly Klitchko in a barfight? Does the charge that he "raped four sisters" really make more sense?

Again I will say that this is a rediculous comparison! You need to find out about all the definitions of rape. It is not only defined as intercourse. Try not to be so ignorant

Victims and accused are known neighbors, but the parents never took justice in own hands. No, they charge him for rape to the police. The digital evidences have been found after his arrest.

The housemaid had access to his computer and witnessed that the old German is a member of an international pedo-network.

What is the link/relationship between the complaint of the housemaid and the parents ? Because she never witnessed the rapes.

The timing of the complaint of the housemaid vs the parents is very important.

Both complaints can be contradictory and destroy themselves.

Edited March 9, 2013 by Thorgal

[transam]

Am so glad am out of this sick place, even years after leaving, you still get the look of a sex offender when you say you lived in Thailand...The sad thing is Thai's also think thats what most of the farang are there for...All I can say is if any of you are planning to come back and live at home be prepared to be looked at in a bad way when you say you live in Thailand

What a stupid post. Just because you were called a perv does not mean any of us will be looked at the same way UNLESS one revealed stuff. Perhaps you did.

[GentlemanJim]

Am so glad am out of this sick place, even years after leaving, you still get the look of a sex offender when you say you lived in Thailand...The sad thing is Thai's also think thats what most of the farang are there for...All I can say is if any of you are planning to come back and live at home be prepared to be looked at in a bad way when you say you live in Thailand

What a stupid post. Just because you were called a perv does not mean any of us will be looked at the same way UNLESS one revealed stuff. Perhaps you did.

joeboy123

You are so glad you are out of this 'sick place', yet still, years after leaving you just can't resist coming on TV. After what you say I wouldn't have thought you miss the place, but it seems that you do !

I feel sorry for those that come here and leave, but all they have ever seen is the gogo bar life. This country is an amazing place to live if you get away from the touristy bar areas. There is nothing 'sick' about the place I live, far from it!

[ozziebloke]

What would you believe if the papers reported that this old guy beat up Vitaly Klitchko in a barfight? Does the charge that he "raped four sisters" really make more sense?

Again I will say that this is a rediculous comparison! You need to find out about all the definitions of rape. It is not only defined as intercourse. Try not to be so ignorant

Victims and accused are known neighbors, but the parents never took justice in own hands. No, they charge him for rape to the police. The digital evidences have been found after his arrest.

The housemaid had access to his computer and witnessed that the old German is a member of an international pedo-network.

What is the link/relationship between the complaint of the housemaid and the parents ? Because she never witnessed the rapes.

The timing of the complaint of the housemaid vs the parents is very important.

Both complaints can be contradictory and destroy themselves.

Firstly the parents not taking justice into their own hands and reporting it to the police was the correct thing to do!, Most pedophilia rapes committed are on victims known to the perpetrator. I don't get where your leading with the relationship between the parents and the maid except from your previous posts of a grand conspiracy to stitch up the old bloke for profit and lastly what has what you have written got to do with what Potosi has said? and what I replied to him?

[ozziebloke]

What would you believe if the papers reported that this old guy beat up Vitaly Klitchko in a barfight? Does the charge that he "raped four sisters" really make more sense?

Who is Vitaly Klitchko? Is he a 100 yr old who was set upon by a young thug???

Vitali Volodymyrovych Klitschko is a Ukrainian professional boxer and

the reigning WBC heavyweight champion. He is leader of the political

party UDAR of Vitaliy Klychko and since 15 December 2012, a member of

the Ukrainian parliament

So you can see why I said what a rediculous comparrison.

[Sing_Sling]

What would you believe if the papers reported that this old guy beat up Vitaly Klitchko in a barfight? Does the charge that he "raped four sisters" really make more sense?

Who is Vitaly Klitchko? Is he a 100 yr old who was set upon by a young thug???

Vitali Volodymyrovych Klitschko is a Ukrainian professional boxer and

the reigning WBC heavyweight champion. He is leader of the political

party UDAR of Vitaliy Klychko and since 15 December 2012, a member of

the Ukrainian parliament

So you can see why I said what a rediculous comparrison.

You do realise the vein in which the question was posed . . . no, I guess you didn't

@

cup-O-coffee

Then again I was thinking you maybe are related to the 93 year old defendant?

Quite uncalled for and childish, not only your multiple use of the wanking smilie in a thread about children being sexually asaulted but also trying to be 'humorous' with the 'relation' quip.