chiangrai Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 I'm thinking of getting married.......just to get a marriage visa.........I've been living with my TGF for 5 years and we get on great......getting married would make no difference at all........it' s like we already are married. But how does it work out in the eyes of the law.I have no house,no car and very little money but I probably will inherit some some day.I know all about buying property and how to protect yourself. Is it simplistic to think that she can't ever chase me for alimony if she doesn't have the money to drag me through the courts. What disadvantages are there to getting married,how might I regret it in the future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beano2274 Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Remember you might have to get a visa from outside of Thailand, as if you wanted an extension within Thailand you must show an income of 40000baht per month or savings of 400000baht. Maybe better to not get married and keep on tourist visas. Remember if you get married the family might expect Sinsod, and you might not get it all back, plus you pay for the party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommoPhysicist Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 There is no downside ...... if you never get her a VISA for your home country. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiangrai Posted March 9, 2013 Author Share Posted March 9, 2013 There would be no Sin Sot and no party.......just a visit to the amphue. I am getting her a visitors visa to Ireland for one month,Is that wise. The visa I want is from Savannakhet because they are said to not need prof of income. This could change,that's one downside I am aware of. But before we get transferred to the visa forum..........are there any downsides to getting married as long as I don't let her establish any rights in Ireland(my home country) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 The downside is that you don't really want to marry her, just use her to get a visa. What will you do if she doesn't want to join you in a sham marriage or once married she decides to divorce you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiangrai Posted March 9, 2013 Author Share Posted March 9, 2013 Not exactly, It's not a sham marriage because we are as if married already. The question is what could she do if it all went sour one day I'm fine with the personal side of it.I'm fine with the visa side of it.It's the legal side of it I need advice on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgs2001uk Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Sounds like you want to have your cake and eat it. Nothing wrong with covering your ass, however, I'm fine with the personal side of it.I'm fine with the visa side of it.It's the legal side of it I need advice on. Why the heck shouldnt the woman have some protection? Does the woman work and have her own income, or is she your personal servant that you pay to be with you every month? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiangrai Posted March 9, 2013 Author Share Posted March 9, 2013 She works and has her own income.............!0k a month. If you don't have any advice on what rights a man looses when he marries a Thai............. please don't reply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgs2001uk Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 So you have been here 5 years and you dont yet know there is no alimony in Thailand? A man doesnt lose any rights. Anything else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beano2274 Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 She has rights to whatever you have in Ireland, as you are legally married by Thai and Irish law so be careful not to let her mix with any Thais in Ireland as they might give her a few hints about what she can get from you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loptr Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Attitudes change after tying the knot. Perhaps not on your part, but perhaps by your partner. I know a couple that had been living together for 11 years and decided to get married as they were both happy in the relationship. Six months later they were divorced and hated each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attrayant Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Does a marriage-based extension terminate immediately upon divorce, or is the foreigner good to stay through the end of his extension? If the former, how does immigration know that a divorce has occurred? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beano2274 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Does a marriage-based extension terminate immediately upon divorce, or is the foreigner good to stay through the end of his extension? If the former, how does immigration know that a divorce has occurred? You should leave when the divorce is official, upon applying for an extension again it would be noticed and you would be found out. Also without things from your wife you would also not be able to get a Visa based on marriage from the neighbouring countries or your home country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attrayant Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 (edited) But what if I don't reapply for another marriage extension? Suppose I start working and switch over to work visa! Then I'd not be required to show any paperwork validating my [non-existent] marriage. Edited March 10, 2013 by attrayant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beano2274 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 But what if I don't reapply for another marriage extension? Suppose I start working and switch over to work visa! Then I'd not be required to show any paperwork validating my [non-existent] marriage. Yes you could do that as there is no communication from Amphurs to Immigration, but again you lose your job you lose your permission to stay. It is also not called a work visa, there is no such thing, it is an extension based on employment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attrayant Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Yes I used the dreaded euphemism, but you knew what I meant. Anyway this is leading somewhere that is out of the scope of this thread so I'll open a new one. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB1955 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 My advise is keep things the way they are . Dont marry . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tboxcar Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 I was a bit worried getting married as I have been married before and have assets I want to protect from Condo to stock and bonds things I accumulated before meeting her. I found a good law firm in Bangkok and used two American Lawyers (I'm from California) and did an 18 page pre-nup. Then the law states I had to hire a lawyer for her and have the pre-nup translated and he needed to understand the whole thing. At least I can sleep better at night now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landslide Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Is your gf aware of the reason you are considering marriage? If not, would you explain prior to the wedding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mario2008 Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 Never forget that a prenup is also a perfect way to protect her assets, especially if you run a business it is a consideration. An uncle of a friend is bankrupt and drives a Ferrari owned by his wife. Because they had a prenup her possessions can not be touched for his debts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiangrai Posted March 23, 2013 Author Share Posted March 23, 2013 There are still people writing in and insulting my relationship my fiancee. I have never met a Thai/Farang couple who have more love and understanding. We are the same age,she speaks English,I speak Thai, We teach English together on out grass thatched porch she is poor,i am poor..............do you want me to write a <deleted> poem about her or what.......... Thanks to everybody who gave simple advice to my simple question. How much is a pre-nup,I barely have enough money to go to Bangkok to get married. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiangrai Posted March 23, 2013 Author Share Posted March 23, 2013 Another question, We have decided to get married in Bangkok. The Irish embassy website says about the affidavit that... ALL THAI REGISTRARS WILL REQUIRE AUTHENTICATION OF THE IRISH CONSULATES SIGNATURE AND CERTIFICATION OF THE THAI TRANSLATION. THIS MUST BE OBTAINED FROM. THE MINISTRY OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS 123 CHAENG WATTANNA ROAD, LAKSI.. Is this true,if so the procedure is 1 get the affidavit 2 get it translated 3 get authentication as above 4 get married at the amphue 5.get the marriage certificate translated into English 6 authenticated as above so it can be used for visa applications(in Hull) I hope I'm wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 Why Bother. Second Hand Idea. East way to get a Visa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mario2008 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Contact Hull and check with them, they might want to see an English translation but not a certified translation. steps 1 to 4 are on the mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phronesis Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 If you are so poor...How are you going to fund the 400KTHB requirement for the Non O visa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiangrai Posted March 24, 2013 Author Share Posted March 24, 2013 Mario is on the ball again. Who is this guy. I think I will do all the steps while I'm in Bangkok in case rules change in the future, before I head up the mountains again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harryfrompattaya Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 There are still people writing in and insulting my relationship my fiancee. I have never met a Thai/Farang couple who have more love and understanding. We are the same age,she speaks English,I speak Thai, We teach English together on out grass thatched porch she is poor,i am poor..............do you want me to write a <deleted> poem about her or what.......... Thanks to everybody who gave simple advice to my simple question. How much is a pre-nup,I barely have enough money to go to Bangkok to get married. Relax For a poor S**t like it is okay to get married Good Lucky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mario2008 Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Unhelpful reply removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieH Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 If it aint broke, why try and fix it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith67 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Another question, We have decided to get married in Bangkok. The Irish embassy website says about the affidavit that... ALL THAI REGISTRARS WILL REQUIRE AUTHENTICATION OF THE IRISH CONSULATES SIGNATURE AND CERTIFICATION OF THE THAI TRANSLATION. THIS MUST BE OBTAINED FROM. THE MINISTRY OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS 123 CHAENG WATTANNA ROAD, LAKSI.. Is this true,if so the procedure is 1 get the affidavit 2 get it translated 3 get authentication as above 4 get married at the amphue 5.get the marriage certificate translated into English 6 authenticated as above so it can be used for visa applications(in Hull) I hope I'm wrong Contact Hull and check with them, they might want to see an English translation but not a certified translation. steps 1 to 4 are on the mark. 4 years ago when i got married i did the steps 1-4 as shown, went and registered the marriage in Bangkok and that is a legal marriage in Thailand but not the UK, for it to be legal in the UK, i would then have to go back to the embassy / consulate and register the marriage with them, if this was the case for ireland too as long as you didn't register the marriage with the Irish embassy / consulate afterwards in Ireland it would still not be a legal marriage so no right's to any property, land or finances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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