RubberSideDown Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 ^ No, but I've been intrigued by the Rukka stuff for a while- mostly the fact it's so incredibly expensive for textile ( and gets great reviews) leads me to think it's something special. Revzilla is dumping some of it relatively cheaply- I think it's just too pricey for the US market- I'm tempted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H1w4yR1da Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Sorry but perforated leather all the way. Mesh/textile jacket is ok riding to the local mom & pop store but longer trips require serious gear. ATGATT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funcat Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Sorry but perforated leather all the way. Mesh/textile jacket is ok riding to the local mom & pop store but longer trips require serious gear. ATGATT! ...agree...just don't stop... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubberSideDown Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Sorry but perforated leather all the way. Mesh/textile jacket is ok riding to the local mom & pop store but longer trips require serious gear. ATGATT! It depends on the situation- I have high-end leather and mesh jackets and pants, and I make my choices accordingly. By your logic, though, I would assume you wear perf leather pants everywhere as well, as your lower body is also very likely to sustain crash injuries- I wear my textile pants more often than my leathers. The Rukka gear is extremely good quality and it has lightweight CE level-2 protection- it would probably hold up better than many perf leather jackets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H1w4yR1da Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 On long trips I wear full fairly thick quality perforated leather. I don't believe any mesh/textile gear will hold up as well as decent leather no matter how well made. It's okay for impact type crashes but wouldn't trust it sliding along the Tarmac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubberSideDown Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 If I'm pushing the bike hard I wear a one-piece leather suit- I generally wear my leather jacket weather-permitting- there are days when I'll wear my textile jackets instead, but I agree that in a hard crash leather would probably hold up better- still, the quality of the textile has really improved in recent years, but the best stuff can actually be more expensive than leather (i.e. Rukka gear) because it offers similar protective benefits while offering way better airflow. I don't know if I could bring myself to pay $900 for a textile jacket, though... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllanB Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Having never read this thread before I was quite excited and optimistic about finding some riding gear, but it is the same old same old. Stupid dark colours, heavy and expensive, little wonder kids wear their normal clothes and get hurt. I want a lightweight light coloured jacket and there seems to be nothing at all at a sensible price and don't understand the difficulty. How hard can it be to produce a lightweight white garment with some plastic protection bits sewn in, all for a few hundred baht? The motorcross guys use a skeleton suit and wear a shirt over the top but haven't seen those here, even thought about designing something myself, but running a business here is all but impossible. Now before you Barry Sheen would-be's tell me about high speed riding, Kevlar, CE cobblers and all that stuff, I don't ride much over 50mph and I just want something better than a t-shirt, if I hit the ground at 30mph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RubberSideDown Posted January 21, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 21, 2014 ^ The reason you don't understand why is because you both refuse to do your own research into what it takes to make a truly protective garment (which would explain why something good isn't cheap), and you refuse to listen to anything people with years of personal experience wearing the gear that's available have to say. You don't want to hear about abrasion resistance, CE-ratings, air-flow, the advantages of combining light and dark colors, etc- all you want to is complain and ask the same questions over-and-over. As far as your 'skeleton suit' goes, I've twice pointed you in the direction where you could find one online, including the example of the jacket I own, and doing it again seems a proper waste of time. It takes more than 'plastic bits' to make armor that will properly disperse the force of an impact- hitting the ground at 30mph let alone 50mph can permanently incapacitate or kill you, and spending what it take to be properly protected is very much worth it. It's unfortunately impossible to tell you anything because you steadfastly will not listen to it unless it jibes with your incorrect assumptions. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post brfsa2 Posted January 21, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 21, 2014 Having never read this thread before I was quite excited and optimistic about finding some riding gear, but it is the same old same old. Stupid dark colours, heavy and expensive, little wonder kids wear their normal clothes and get hurt. I want a lightweight light coloured jacket and there seems to be nothing at all at a sensible price and don't understand the difficulty. How hard can it be to produce a lightweight white garment with some plastic protection bits sewn in, all for a few hundred baht? The motorcross guys use a skeleton suit and wear a shirt over the top but haven't seen those here, even thought about designing something myself, but running a business here is all but impossible. Now before you Barry Sheen would-be's tell me about high speed riding, Kevlar, CE cobblers and all that stuff, I don't ride much over 50mph and I just want something better than a t-shirt, if I hit the ground at 30mph. I went to Panda shop last saturday and it's great. I found some nice Jacket, light colour with CE protection for less than 6000 baht on discount. maybe you should have a look there. The shop is quite high end in general. I tried a grey color jacket with CE pads, looked to have great ventilation. I will probably buy it next 2 weeks because my leather jacket is really too heavy and overkill for commuting 20KM to work each day. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubberSideDown Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 ^ I already recommended my white, red and black Dainese textile jacket with CE-rated pads that was on sale for 6900baht and he scoffed at it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casualbiker Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I got a Nerve Carib jacket from 320sp.. it's black but lightweight. Well made and cool.. 2,000b If ya want it white ..paint it Sent from my XT1032 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H1w4yR1da Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Has anyone ever heard of the brand Utika? They seem to be based in Pakistan You're kidding right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wantan Posted January 21, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 21, 2014 (edited) RevIt also has some light coulored jackets with high airflow, eg. the Tornado for 8k Baht at PandaRider. Imo this money is well spent.The reason why i am interested in the jackets made with AFT Cordura by Rukka is that they are made completely from AFT Cordura. Unlike the RevIt jacket the air can flow everywhere. There shouldn't be any heat accumulation. And moisture should get out easily. We just need someone to test it in April heat on BKK streets Edited January 21, 2014 by wantan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubberSideDown Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Revzilla has the Rukka Airbob and Airway (both originally $900) for $500 and $750 respectively- not many sizes left for the Airbob, but lots for the Airway- you first. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornishcarlos Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I bought a Teknic jacket, on sale from Revzilla... Just $89 but still made parts made from Cordura !! Not sure if it would stand up to a big spill but flows air well and shower resistant. Much better than the jacket I didn't have before http://www.revzilla.com/product/teknic-aquavent-mesh-jacket 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllanB Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Having never read this thread before I was quite excited and optimistic about finding some riding gear, but it is the same old same old. Stupid dark colours, heavy and expensive, little wonder kids wear their normal clothes and get hurt. I want a lightweight light coloured jacket and there seems to be nothing at all at a sensible price and don't understand the difficulty. How hard can it be to produce a lightweight white garment with some plastic protection bits sewn in, all for a few hundred baht? The motorcross guys use a skeleton suit and wear a shirt over the top but haven't seen those here, even thought about designing something myself, but running a business here is all but impossible. Now before you Barry Sheen would-be's tell me about high speed riding, Kevlar, CE cobblers and all that stuff, I don't ride much over 50mph and I just want something better than a t-shirt, if I hit the ground at 30mph. I went to Panda shop last saturday and it's great. I found some nice Jacket, light colour with CE protection for less than 6000 baht on discount. maybe you should have a look there. The shop is quite high end in general. I tried a grey color jacket with CE pads, looked to have great ventilation. I will probably buy it next 2 weeks because my leather jacket is really too heavy and overkill for commuting 20KM to work each day. That sounds okay, where is the Panda shop, I guess somewhere in the south? I am heading down there next week and could pick up a couple. 6k baht sounds okay too, thanks.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllanB Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Having never read this thread before I was quite excited and optimistic about finding some riding gear, but it is the same old same old. Stupid dark colours, heavy and expensive, little wonder kids wear their normal clothes and get hurt. I want a lightweight light coloured jacket and there seems to be nothing at all at a sensible price and don't understand the difficulty. How hard can it be to produce a lightweight white garment with some plastic protection bits sewn in, all for a few hundred baht? The motorcross guys use a skeleton suit and wear a shirt over the top but haven't seen those here, even thought about designing something myself, but running a business here is all but impossible. Now before you Barry Sheen would-be's tell me about high speed riding, Kevlar, CE cobblers and all that stuff, I don't ride much over 50mph and I just want something better than a t-shirt, if I hit the ground at 30mph. I went to Panda shop last saturday and it's great. I found some nice Jacket, light colour with CE protection for less than 6000 baht on discount. maybe you should have a look there. The shop is quite high end in general. I tried a grey color jacket with CE pads, looked to have great ventilation. I will probably buy it next 2 weeks because my leather jacket is really too heavy and overkill for commuting 20KM to work each day. That sounds okay, where is the Panda shop, I guess somewhere in the south? I am heading down there next week and could pick up a couple. 6k baht sounds okay too, thanks.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casualbiker Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 (edited) Having never read this thread before I was quite excited and optimistic about finding some riding gear, but it is the same old same old. Stupid dark colours, heavy and expensive, little wonder kids wear their normal clothes and get hurt. I want a lightweight light coloured jacket and there seems to be nothing at all at a sensible price and don't understand the difficulty. How hard can it be to produce a lightweight white garment with some plastic protection bits sewn in, all for a few hundred baht? The motorcross guys use a skeleton suit and wear a shirt over the top but haven't seen those here, even thought about designing something myself, but running a business here is all but impossible. Now before you Barry Sheen would-be's tell me about high speed riding, Kevlar, CE cobblers and all that stuff, I don't ride much over 50mph and I just want something better than a t-shirt, if I hit the ground at 30mph. I went to Panda shop last saturday and it's great. I found some nice Jacket, light colour with CE protection for less than 6000 baht on discount. maybe you should have a look there. The shop is quite high end in general. I tried a grey color jacket with CE pads, looked to have great ventilation. I will probably buy it next 2 weeks because my leather jacket is really too heavy and overkill for commuting 20KM to work each day. That sounds okay, where is the Panda shop, I guess somewhere in the south? I am heading down there next week and could pick up a couple. 6k baht sounds okay too, thanks.... Because i have worked out how to use Google whereas you haven't : here ya go : http://www.pandarider.com/ and just in case you have trouble negotiating the site: Panda Rider Co.,LTD 81 ซ.ประเสริฐมนูกิจ17 (ลาดปลาเค้า40) ถ.ประเสริฐมนูกิจ (เกษตร-นวมินทร์) แขวงจรเข้บัว เขตลาดพร้าว กทม. 10230 81 SOI PRASERT MANUKITCH17 (LAT PLA KHAO40), PRASERT MANUKITCH RD., JORAKAEBUA, LAT PHRAO, BANGKOK 10230, THAILAND จุดสังเกต ร้านอยู่ที่ต่อมอที่ 78-79 เส้น ถ.ประเสริฐมนูกิจ (เกษตร-นวมินทร์) ข้างโชว์รูม HONDA เลี้ยวซ้ายเข้า ซ.ประเสริฐมนูกิจ17 เพียง 20เมตร เท่านั้น! Tel : 02-940-4477, 02-940-4779 Fax : 02-940-4440 Mobile : 08-7590-4244 , 08-5943-7555 Open : เวลาทำการ (ปรับเปลี่ยนเวลา ตั้งแต่วันที่ 3 ม.ค. 57 เป็นต้นไป) จันทร์-เสาร์ = 9:30 - 19:00 น. Mon-Sat = 9.30 am - 7.00 pm อาทิตย์ = 14:00 - 19:00 น. Sun = 2.00 pm - 7.00 pm GPS : +13° 50' 20.71", +100° 36' 2.85" (GPS from maps.google.com) GPS : N13° 50.330', E100° 36.052" (GPS from Garmin Zumo 660) Email : MotulatPandaRider.com @ Facebook.com/PandaRiderDotCom but be aware the GPS are wrong. they show the office /home address here are correct GPS: 13.866414,100.591114 jeez they give 2 GPs and both wrong.. embarrassing Edited January 21, 2014 by casualbiker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DILLIGAD Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I bought a Revit jacket from Panda last week and after a few test rides with & without inner lining, I am well eased with the quality and airflow. Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H1w4yR1da Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Panda Rider Co.,LTD 81 ซ.ประเสริฐมนูกิจ17 (ลาดปลาเค้า40) ถ.ประเสริฐมนูกิจ (เกษตร-นวมินทร์) แขวงจรเข้บัว เขตลาดพร้าว กทม. 10230 81 SOI PRASERT MANUKITCH17 (LAT PLA KHAO40), PRASERT MANUKITCH RD., JORAKAEBUA, LAT PHRAO, BANGKOK 10230, THAILAND จุดสังเกต ร้านอยู่ที่ต่อมอที่ 78-79 เส้น ถ.ประเสริฐมนูกิจ (เกษตร-นวมินทร์) ข้างโชว์รูม HONDA เลี้ยวซ้ายเข้า ซ.ประเสริฐมนูกิจ17 เพียง 20เมตร เท่านั้น! Tel : 02-940-4477, 02-940-4779 Fax : 02-940-4440 Mobile : 08-7590-4244 , 08-5943-7555 Open : เวลาทำการ (ปรับเปลี่ยนเวลา ตั้งแต่วันที่ 3 ม.ค. 57 เป็นต้นไป) จันทร์-เสาร์ = 9:30 - 19:00 น. Mon-Sat = 9.30 am - 7.00 pm อาทิตย์ = 14:00 - 19:00 น. Sun = 2.00 pm - 7.00 pm GPS : +13° 50' 20.71", +100° 36' 2.85" (GPS from maps.google.com) GPS : N13° 50.330', E100° 36.052" (GPS from Garmin Zumo 660) Email : MotulatPandaRider.com @ Facebook.com/PandaRiderDotCom but be aware the GPS are wrong. they show the office /home address here are correct GPS: 13.866414,100.591114 jeez they give 2 GPs and both wrong.. embarrassing The first one is correct. +13° 50' 20.71", +100° 36' 2.85" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casualbiker Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 (edited) Panda Rider Co.,LTD 81 ซ.ประเสริฐมนูกิจ17 (ลาดปลาเค้า40) ถ.ประเสริฐมนูกิจ (เกษตร-นวมินทร์) แขวงจรเข้บัว เขตลาดพร้าว กทม. 10230 81 SOI PRASERT MANUKITCH17 (LAT PLA KHAO40), PRASERT MANUKITCH RD., JORAKAEBUA, LAT PHRAO, BANGKOK 10230, THAILAND จุดสังเกต ร้านอยู่ที่ต่อมอที่ 78-79 เส้น ถ.ประเสริฐมนูกิจ (เกษตร-นวมินทร์) ข้างโชว์รูม HONDA เลี้ยวซ้ายเข้า ซ.ประเสริฐมนูกิจ17 เพียง 20เมตร เท่านั้น! Tel : 02-940-4477, 02-940-4779 Fax : 02-940-4440 Mobile : 08-7590-4244 , 08-5943-7555 Open : เวลาทำการ (ปรับเปลี่ยนเวลา ตั้งแต่วันที่ 3 ม.ค. 57 เป็นต้นไป) จันทร์-เสาร์ = 9:30 - 19:00 น. Mon-Sat = 9.30 am - 7.00 pm อาทิตย์ = 14:00 - 19:00 น. Sun = 2.00 pm - 7.00 pm GPS : +13° 50' 20.71", +100° 36' 2.85" (GPS from maps.google.com) GPS : N13° 50.330', E100° 36.052" (GPS from Garmin Zumo 660) Email : MotulatPandaRider.com @ Facebook.com/PandaRiderDotCom but be aware the GPS are wrong. they show the office /home address here are correct GPS: 13.866414,100.591114 jeez they give 2 GPs and both wrong.. embarrassing The first one is correct. +13° 50' 20.71", +100° 36' 2.85" Well. I copied and pasted into Google maps and it gave the old house address. The one I put up was from a street view looking at the shop. Or have they moved again??? Sent from my XT1032 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Edited January 22, 2014 by casualbiker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllanB Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 One problem at the moment, Khon Kaen is bloody freezing at the moment, so I need a black leather jacket...just kidding but it is cold. Crazy weather, don't know about the rest of Thailand, but I have never known it like this, nearly 2 months of cold nights and temperate days. But will get a couple of those jackets, do they do trousers too......? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllanB Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 ^ The reason you don't understand why is because you both refuse to do your own research into what it takes to make a truly protective garment (which would explain why something good isn't cheap), and you refuse to listen to anything people with years of personal experience wearing the gear that's available have to say. You don't want to hear about abrasion resistance, CE-ratings, air-flow, the advantages of combining light and dark colors, etc- all you want to is complain and ask the same questions over-and-over. As far as your 'skeleton suit' goes, I've twice pointed you in the direction where you could find one online, including the example of the jacket I own, and doing it again seems a proper waste of time. It takes more than 'plastic bits' to make armor that will properly disperse the force of an impact- hitting the ground at 30mph let alone 50mph can permanently incapacitate or kill you, and spending what it take to be properly protected is very much worth it. It's unfortunately impossible to tell you anything because you steadfastly will not listen to it unless it jibes with your incorrect assumptions. I know you think you are always right and that my methods are little controversial, but it seems I have a result, thanks to other more open minded contributors. If you can't see that black ( and other dark colours) is a totally unsuitable colour for a hot weather jacket, especially in leather, perhaps it is because you are impervious to the heat. Please try being a little sympathetic to other people's point of view, we are not all experts, which can be an advantage. I still think this is not rocket science and there will come a day when someone designs a simple jacket, that the Chinese will copy and make for peanuts for the masses. Until that day 3000 baht is not too bad to save our skins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DILLIGAD Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 As my old Dad used to say "the concrete is just as hard on a lovely sunny day!" Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wantan Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 (edited) jeez they give 2 GPs and both wrong.. embarrassingThe first one is correct. +13° 50' 20.71", +100° 36' 2.85"Well. I copied and pasted into Google maps and it gave the old house address . The one I put up was from a street view looking at the shop. Or have they moved again??? You should not rely on Google maps Both coordinates on the Panda website are right. Yes, they have moved to "81 SOI PRASERT MANUKITCH17 (LAT PLA KHAO40)", maybe one year ago. Edited January 22, 2014 by wantan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubberSideDown Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 (edited) Never mind- I will take the advice of a poster on here that I respect quite a bit and just sit back and enjoy the show. Edited January 22, 2014 by RubberSideDown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H1w4yR1da Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Never mind- I will take the advice of a poster on here that I respect quite a bit and just sit back and enjoy the show.dogpoo? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubberSideDown Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Never mind- I will take the advice of a poster on here that I respect quite a bit and just sit back and enjoy the show.dogpoo? Swing and a miss... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moe666 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 A few years ago went for a ride during songram from CNX to Tak and I was being cool short sleeve shirt and the sun cooked me or my arms anyway. Finally did the Thai thing and put on my black fleece jacket with long sleeves and guess what I was cooler with it on rather than the direct sunlight beating on me. Yes I was hotter waiting at lights but once I moved cool as the breeze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubberSideDown Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 RevIt also has some light coulored jackets with high airflow, eg. the Tornado for 8k Baht at PandaRider. Imo this money is well spent. Just FYI on the Tornado jacket- there's a crash-test review with pics on GTR- it didn't hold up well at all in a low-speed low-side and the seams opened up more than I would have expected- it's in the 'safety jackets' thread- I don't want to link to another forum, but you can search for keyword 'Tornado'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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