MyFriend You Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 I seem to remember something about these things having compulsory insurance....or was it a dream? Very interesting point. Owning and operating a vehicle of any sort carries the requirement to have it insured. That should be the very first point made, and/or policies should be reviewed and proper notice given to customers renting; "Be advised that these rented vehicles do not carry any insurance coverage, and the renter is liable for all damage to the vehicle; either pre-existing damage, or damage done during the rental period." Again; excellent point! Why are the police and the Phuket government allowing uninsured vehicles to be used in a business? I cannot help but think enough negative things about the Thai mentality and Thai mind that justifies the way they pollute the term "existence" at certain times like this. With repect to Insurance, I think the RENTER not the OWNER that has to pay the insurance, there have been many inferences to this on the forum. Coect me if I am wrong, I am neutral because as another poster said: I hate the damn things, screaming around mesing up my Sunday hangover naps................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alphaflight Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Stop renting the Jet-Ski and put them all out of business..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyFriend You Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 I do not understand why people keep hiring these jet skis .... TAT...Tourist.Authority.of.Thailand...needs.to.make.a.little.(or.not.so.little!).booklet.for.tourists:"Be.Careful.in.Thailand!" Of.course,it.would.scare.people.off...There.are.getting.to.be.just.too.many.things.to.be.on.guard.for.here. AND,of.course,TAT.could.and.would.never.do.such.a.thing..... Thus,no.warning.for.tourists.about.jet-ski.rentals....Who.is.going.to.warn.them? (please.excuse.my.keyboard,which.is.lacking.a.space.key.thus.the.excessive.use.of.periods.(period)) A Hotel in Phuket tried this, handing out flyers to the German tourists last year, their front foyer was fire bombed three times that week with Coca Cola Gas Bombs..............of course, no areests were made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmayes Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 (edited) Two years ago I saw two Kata beach para-glider operators attack a tourist. The tourist was complaining about the shortness of his ride and the operators just started attacking him. It was like a mini kung <deleted> movie with jumping screaming a few air kicks...I was amazed at the whole incident. After a little pushing the tourist eventually walked away. It appears that this attacking tourists on phuket is not isolated to just the jet ski industry. Edited September 28, 2013 by mdmayes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 I am just trying to picture the scene....argumentative accusative jerk meets argumentative denial jerk. One then appreciates the occasional bar signs in Koh Phangan that say "No Israelis". Yeah. It's so easy to fall into racist stereotypes, innit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancealot Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 I am just trying to picture the scene....argumentative accusative jerk meets argumentative denial jerk. One then appreciates the occasional bar signs in Koh Phangan that say "No Israelis". Yeah. It's so easy to fall into racist stereotypes, innit? And in some cases it's more difficult to accept other culture's behaviour. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fire2rescue99 Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Jet skis operate much differently than propeller powered boats. There is a lag in the response to the steering control. The uninitiated often corrects their slow to respond directional effort with a countermand ing measure. It results in loss of control and many times a collision. I think the operators probably count on this characteristic to collect outrageous repair fees from the unsuspecting. Why doesn't a hotel chain on the beach contract to a legitimate sea sports outfit with proper equipment, instruction and insurance to offer the experience? Could the Jet Ski Association (read mafia) be the obstacle? Pattaya seems to have a lot of similar experiences with jet skis. Go Cha am! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSSlongtime Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 link should be sent to world press ,and inform them that this is normal in Thailand ,truth about thailand should come out ,one day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveBKK777 Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 I hope they get Mossad out here to fix the jet-ski problem up once and for all. The Mossad are busy planting false flag terrorist operations to push the US to fight a bloody war in Syria. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 There is simply no end to this problem. There are solutions, but they will never me implemented in the LOS (Land of Scams). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 I do not understand why people keep hiring these jet skis ....TAT...Tourist.Authority.of.Thailand...needs.to.make.a.little.(or.not.so.little!).booklet.for.tourists:"Be.Careful.in.Thailand!" Of.course,it.would.scare.people.off...There.are.getting.to.be.just.too.many.things.to.be.on.guard.for.here. AND,of.course,TAT.could.and.would.never.do.such.a.thing..... Thus,no.warning.for.tourists.about.jet-ski.rentals....Who.is.going.to.warn.them? (please.excuse.my.keyboard,which.is.lacking.a.space.key.thus.the.excessive.use.of.periods.(period)) A Hotel in Phuket tried this, handing out flyers to the German tourists last year, their front foyer was fire bombed three times that week with Coca Cola Gas Bombs..............of course, no areests were made. Looking forward to a link or other newsreport of this event you mention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baloo22 Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 (edited) Tell all family friends and any one you know visiting "Never rent a Jet Ski in Phuket!" I tell all family, friends, and anyone else that I can, "Do NOT go to Phuket at All !!!!!" Edited September 28, 2013 by Baloo22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docno Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 I've rented jet-skis a few times (in Thailand and elsewhere) and I've never figured out how you could damage the things except by ramming into someone else on a jet-ski while going at a good clip. They even have a rubber protection strip around them so bumping up against a dock (if you're renting at a lake) does no damage. I know the Phuket incidents are mostly scams, but they would seem to have less 'basis in reality' than most... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halion Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Well you can't just damage peoples jet skis and expect not to compensate them. There was no denial of damage on the Israelis part. Very true, however equally as pertinent is the fact that there was no mention of acceptance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JO1973 Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 "Mr Danaichet accepted the assault charges by police" Well, that was awfully noble of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cup-O-coffee Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 (edited) I seem to remember something about these things having compulsory insurance....or was it a dream? Very interesting point. Owning and operating a vehicle of any sort carries the requirement to have it insured. That should be the very first point made, and/or policies should be reviewed and proper notice given to customers renting; "Be advised that these rented vehicles do not carry any insurance coverage, and the renter is liable for all damage to the vehicle; either pre-existing damage, or damage done during the rental period." Again; excellent point! Why are the police and the Phuket government allowing uninsured vehicles to be used in a business? I cannot help but think enough negative things about the Thai mentality and Thai mind that justifies the way they pollute the term "existence" at certain times like this. I don't know of any car rental company in the world that provides the driver with insurance at no charge. However, they will sell it to you. Again, I don't know why you would make this a Thailand only situation. Good point, but is it relative to what I am describing? I do not know, because there are so many policies out there, and even on Thailand's best days, anything they sell to you that you can't see beyond the paperwork is dubious. What I meant is that, for example, anyone can drive my car and the car is insured. If you get banged up, you are on your own, but I can have my car repaired back to factory OEM. That's here, in Thailand by the way. Furthermore, there have been a couple times when I had a ding or two and it was fixed; no questions asked. Hence, considering (in my opinion) the level of danger and high certainty of wear and tear on these jet-skies, it only seems clear that there should be that kind of insurance that these scumbags can buy (and cannot avoid pending a business closure or the monkey house)...or, that the worthless, lazy wind-bags in parliament can enforce on the insurance companies to afford this kind of insurance all in the interest of "good intentions" to provide a fun and safe activity to foreign visitors in Phuket. But here's the thing. I am talking sense, and Thais seem to not have any sense simply because they are so far advanced in their state of mental corruption that there is no room for sense in their endeavor to crap on absolutely any straw of opportunity that comes their way; and within a very short span of time they have destroyed that opportunity for the sake of a hand full of money. Everything in their path is fallow. Need proof? Read the news. Cracking down on anything and everything a hundred times in a year? A fallow path in their wake! Securing billions to modernize the education crowd control system? A fallow path in their wake! Improving the well being of women, children and the gay community? A fallow path in their wake! Becoming the hub of everything to the world, galaxy universe and almighty gods? A fallow path in their wake! Being a good example in religion, politics, law enforcement, parenting? A fallow path in their wake! And on and on and on... fallow. Suck the life blood out of everything they get their hands on (grants, loans, etc.) and keep that blood and cast the husks away or let opportunity and the human minds out their lie and rot. For a country that appears on the surface to be cosmopolitan, the media continuously carries stories from top to bottom and bottom to top of events that remind one of more torn nations around the world. It makes me wonder what Thailand would become in ten years if all foreign investment and expats and tourists were to pull out now. Edited September 28, 2013 by cup-O-coffee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thhMan Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 (edited) The renter was an infidel and to make matters worse he was a Jew. This is the obligation of many of those who run Phuket beach businesses. It would have been lovely if some other infidels would have ganged up on those guys and kicked the shit out of them. Phuket will never change. Unfortunately, kicking the shit out of them is not the answer.... Sure the Thai dude is a scammer, but worse, he disgraces his country, his people and his family. And just like those that write iffy comments and get jail time, so should these people who act alone (alone being anyone involved in the scam) to disgrace Thailand. After the first few dozen get long jail times for being such a disgrace, I am sure that "face saving" and the thought of spending the next few long years, eating, sleeping, showering, shitting with other scammers will be deterrent enough. But I am a dreamer and the reality is that issues like this are a cancer and can only be stopped by severe treatment or death of its host.... Edited September 28, 2013 by thhMan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtoad Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 I do not understand why people keep hiring these jet skis .... I don't know why people keep going to Phuket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devaram Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 They deserve to be beaten because they destroy the peace and tranquility of the beach and it makes it very dangerous for swimmers.I hate jetskis and I hope any more tourists who are foolish enough to use them will be beaten as well. Better yet I hope they fall off and get eaten by a shark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bpuumike Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 (edited) I have rented every year in Cha-am .never had a problem it seems just Phuket get this even the jetski owners in cha-am call them wan*ers Must admit I wouldnt rent anything in phuket even if it has tits! Could have more than tits? To stay on topic, there is no denial of damage to the jet ski. I hire jet skis 3 or 4 times a year in Jomtien and find the various owners exceptionally helpful. Perhaps a Thai wife helps and tourists are just for... Edited September 28, 2013 by Bpuumike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee b Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 I wonder how many times that jet ski was damaged?. Once, the 5 million times after was for the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KuhnPaen Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 They deserve to be beaten because they destroy the peace and tranquility of the beach and it makes it very dangerous for swimmers.I hate jetskis and I hope any more tourists who are foolish enough to use them will be beaten as well. Better yet I hope they fall off and get eaten by a shark. But tell us how you really feel... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry001 Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Typical of 60% of the Thai male scum that work or opwerate in Tourist resorts.Without the tourists this thug does not realize he would be sitting in some rice field just to to eat and survive. Also very brave to attack someone with a pole. Again typical pf Thai males who have neverb been known forth their bravery over the yaers 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeO Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Is this a new low? beating a 66 year old with a stick? He shouldn't be bailed, ridiculous. They should take this opportunity to demonstrate that they are serious about cleaning up these scum by jailing this <deleted> for at least five years; and whilst we're on the subject, why is such grievous bodily harm not a criminal offence in Thailand? As this guy is out on bail, there is no motivation for him not to do exactly the same to someone else, and if he walks free after this, what happens to the much talked about effort aimed at improving Phuket as a tourist destination...? My last trip to Phuket was over five years ago now, and I don't ever plan to go back there. I firmly believe that everyone else who has the option should also vote with their feet and leave the place and the local people to suffer the consequences of their actions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanferdi Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Is this a new low? beating a 66 year old with a stick? He shouldn't be bailed, ridiculous. Thailand is known for its dodgy stories with jet skies.... I warn all tourist and friends and make it my conversation that it's a racket in Thailand where both the rouges and police benefit. Why does not the tourist department do anything? Why does not the police setup a booth to check boats ? Aren't these boats covered with insurances? The why is silent because they all profit from it. Wait till the Chinese and the Russians bash their heads! Stupid rogues!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfbandung Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Doesn't everyone in the world know not to rent jet skis in Phuket and Pattaya? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinginKata Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 A number of racist posts removed.Forum rule 7) Not to post slurs or degrading comments directed towards any group on the basis of race, nationality, religion, gender or sexual orientation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppmacready Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Why is an assault a non criminal charge? In Thailand if a thai mafia member hits a falang its just business! T.I.T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandhurstmolonski Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 I do not understand why people keep hiring these jet skis .... TAT...Tourist.Authority.of.Thailand...needs.to.make.a.little.(or.not.so.little!).booklet.for.tourists:"Be.Careful.in.Thailand!" Of.course,it.would.scare.people.off...There.are.getting.to.be.just.too.many.things.to.be.on.guard.for.here. AND,of.course,TAT.could.and.would.never.do.such.a.thing..... Thus,no.warning.for.tourists.about.jet-ski.rentals....Who.is.going.to.warn.them? (please.excuse.my.keyboard,which.is.lacking.a.space.key.thus.the.excessive.use.of.periods.(period)) A great Idea .. Start with 3 Quick " DONTS " 1. Dont Hire a Jet Ski 2. Dont attend full moon Parties 3. Avoid Taxis ..But Never do Tuk Tuk's The above will solve 70% of the problems . That's 2 "Don'ts" and 1 "Avoid." Am assuming you did mean "Don't" NOT "Dont" or "DONTS." Grammar , Slang and process of Communication Change over time ..The Only thing that matters is that the Communication is Understood . Same in any Language , writing is a way of communicating a View . Therefore , I meant DONT . I take point 4 however mentioned about Scooters , Plus if you are going to Ride ( anyway ) , Maybe a little research and a Helment may help . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netizen Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Well you can't just damage peoples jet skis and expect not to compensate them. There was no denial of damage on the Israelis part. There was no comment from the Israeli's Israelis full stop There was no statement or implication in the article that the Israelis denied they damaged the jet ski whether or not in fact the jet ski was damaged. People are very quick to rush to judgement of the Thai. Clearly he must have been very angry about something. I took the liberty of correcting your damaged grammar. No charge for that. If the israelis not denying it what are they quarelling for??? The Israelis refusal to pay compensation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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