webfact Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Australian police storm Hells Angels' hideoutsMelbourne (AFP) - More than 700 Australian police swooped on the Hells Angels biker gang Thursday in a series of heavily-armed raids in Melbourne and its surrounds, seizing guns, ammunition, drugs and cash.In a coordinated operation, police stormed some 60 clubhouses and properties simultaneously to clamp down on an escalating war between rival motorcycle outfits that has sparked a spate of shootings with high-powered weapons.The crackdown came after new anti-fortification laws came into effect on Sunday, which allow police to tear down barriers, cameras and booby traps at club facilities."If they're affiliated with the Hells Angels, they've been targeted," Acting Deputy Commissioner Steve Fontana told reporters.Several people were arrested but Fontana said the full extent of what had been seized would take time to determine as many of the properties were heavily fortified.But he admitted that none of the "high-powered military-style weapons" that police had been searching for had so far been found."We're determined to track them down," he said."We've located a number of firearms, a large quantity of ammunition, we've located drugs, a large quantity of cash, but the investigations and searches are still going."He added that police were "extremely concerned about these weapons"."We're extremely concerned about the intel we've got about the tensions and the intentions of these clubs, and so we thought it necessary to make a pretty strong stance."Recent incidents involving biker gangs in Melbourne have included a tattoo parlour being sprayed with bullets, makeshift bombs -- which did not explode -- thrown at a gym, and shots fired a Hells Angels clubhouse.Biker gangs linked to organised crime are a growing problem across Australia, with a mass brawl on the Gold Coast last month prompting Queensland state police to vow to kick them out of the state.As part of that pledge, new laws are being drafted in Queensland to ban motorcyclists riding in groups of three or more to stop them using numbers to intimidate.Earlier this year, police launched a series of dawn raids across Sydney targeting outlaw motorcycle gangs, seizing firearms, explosives and drugs. -- (c) Copyright AFP 2013-10-10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsetBkk Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 new laws are being drafted in Queensland to ban motorcyclists riding in groups of three or more to stop them using numbers to intimidate. Should try that here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midas Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 (edited) new laws are being drafted in Queensland to ban motorcyclists riding in groups of three or more to stop them using numbers to intimidate. Should try that here. That's a good move. That sounds like something that old Joh Bjelke-Petersen would have instigated. He was a tough Premier but Queensland was all the better for it. Edited October 10, 2013 by midas 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Shurup Posted October 10, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted October 10, 2013 new laws are being drafted in Queensland to ban motorcyclists riding in groups of three or more to stop them using numbers to intimidate. Should try that here. Da fak? Haven't heard anything more retarded in a while now. What if I'm not a member of any gangs but want to go riding with a few of my work mates for example? Can not? Don't think this law will pass, it's just stupid. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midas Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 (edited) new laws are being drafted in Queensland to ban motorcyclists riding in groups of three or more to stop them using numbers to intimidate. Should try that here. Da fak? Haven't heard anything more retarded in a while now. What if I'm not a member of any gangs but want to go riding with a few of my work mates for example? Can not? Don't think this law will pass, it's just stupid. I think you're wrong there. I don't think you understand how most Queenslanders think. They will certainly back their politicians on this issue A lot of the information had come from the public and AC Condon urged the community to keep supporting the police in the crackdown on motorcycle gangs. "We've had assistance from the community on a daily basis." http://www.qt.com.au/news/police-show-bikies-their-colours/2046753/ Edited October 10, 2013 by midas 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchybum Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Good on em...get the scum further into the gutters where they belong.....holding hands of course because they need each other to cry upon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copa8 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 new laws are being drafted in Queensland to ban motorcyclists riding in groups of three or more to stop them using numbers to intimidate. Should try that here. Also, should try that in the US. http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/pack-motorcyclists-chase-man-suv-attack-upper-manhattan-street-fender-bender-west-side-highway-article-1.1471585 Read some article/post saying that this gang specifically targeted white & Asian family in expensive/luxury automobiles. They brake check right in front of you, then intimidate drivers into forking over $$$ for bumping into them. This was not the first incident, but definitely the worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaurene Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 new laws are being drafted in Queensland to ban motorcyclists riding in groups of three or more to stop them using numbers to intimidate.Should try that here. Da fak? Haven't heard anything more retarded in a while now. What if I'm not a member of any gangs but want to go riding with a few of my work mates for example? Can not? Don't think this law will pass, it's just stupid. If you are out riding with some friends dressed like hell's angels then you will cop it but if you dress in a civilised manner the police will know you are ok after they talk to you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slipperylobster Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 new laws are being drafted in Queensland to ban motorcyclists riding in groups of three or more to stop them using numbers to intimidate. Should try that here. That's a good move. That sounds like something that old Joh Bjelke-Petersen would have instigated. He was a tough Premier but Queensland was all the better for it. I agree. There is nothing more intimidating than having a bunch of 10 year old children on Mio scooters blocking the intersection. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RigPig Posted October 11, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted October 11, 2013 Firstly MC stands for Motorcycle Club, if the club is a registered institution then there will be great difficulty in bringing in laws that restrict "congregation", these laws actually already exist (I believe) which is why the bike clubs became clubs in the first place. How does one distinguish between a" motor cross" bike club and a "Big Bike" club? Or for that matter your local football club! Making distinguishing laws based on the way people dress, well let's all move to Korea! People have the right to dress however they wish. I remember when long hair was frowned upon, same thing. I don't particularly like piercings but I acknowledge your right to choice. As for Shaurene's : "If you are out riding with some friends dressed like hell's angels then you will cop it but if you dress in a civilized manner the police will know you are ok after they talk to you." Well once again the way you dress and act has little to do with anything, some of the wealthiest drug lords in the world would pass your test! That doesn't make them good people!! I rode with 28 other "bikers" dressed in motorcycle garb, some of them patch members of local Thai clubs, we had a police escort from Hua Hin to Pattaya for the bike weekend there and I've never had such a good time. To each his own. As for organized criminal institutions, well the BIB come to mind, and indeed the police forces in Queensland, Victoria and New South Wales in Australia have had their share. I would think in this country cleaning up the biggest and most organized corrupt group of individuals would be on my priority list rather than worrying about a few groups that are still testing the waters here. The "Outlaw Clubs" are still nothing to be concerned about in Thailand yet. IMHO 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bigdod Posted October 11, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted October 11, 2013 new laws are being drafted in Queensland to ban motorcyclists riding in groups of three or more to stop them using numbers to intimidate.Should try that here. Da fak? Haven't heard anything more retarded in a while now. What if I'm not a member of any gangs but want to go riding with a few of my work mates for example? Can not? Don't think this law will pass, it's just stupid. If you are out riding with some friends dressed like hell's angels then you will cop it but if you dress in a civilised manner the police will know you are ok after they talk to you. What a load of <deleted> - did you actually think about what you said there before you pressed send..? You're advocating that not only can they choose who we can and can not ride with, they can also tell us how to dress...??? Wake up..... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4u2mad Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Oh, will that include road trains too. Well they are intimidating in threes or more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveyinasia Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 "Queensland to ban motorcyclists riding in groups of three or more"..so every year there are several bike groups that organise charity rides, such as the Toy Run for children in hospital, do we stop those too? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GrantSmith Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 new laws are being drafted in Queensland to ban motorcyclists riding in groups of three or more to stop them using numbers to intimidate. Should try that here. That's a good move. That sounds like something that old Joh Bjelke-Petersen would have instigated. He was a tough Premier but Queensland was all the better for it. Made QLD all the better for it? For what? What did QLD get out of it? They're still playing catch up with the rest of the states and only sit ahead of Tasmania, because, well, they're not part of the mainland. He was a nut job... Using claims that the drapes would fade much quicker in households if QLD adopted daylight savings... And the cows would stop producing milk... Almost as stupid as these laws... "Can do (sweet f*** all) Campbell" is just trying to big note himself in front of the LNP faithful. The guy's got no idea, going from Brisbane City Mayor to Premier in the blink of an election? He certainly wouldn't be out of place sitting amongst the PTP. Reminds me of a certain former PM actually. Unfortunately, probably says more about the people of QLD than it does anything else. They won't pass, they tried, succeeded and then lost on appeal (in NSW and SA). It'll go to the High Court, everyone will site the constitutional laws that liberate these OMCG members. The people writing these drafts need to get their wording right, otherwise there's sweet fanny adams chance of these ever coming into effect. I don't have any affiliations with OMCG's nor do I support what they do, but if the Police want these laws to be entered into law, they've got to get the wording right. Otherwise they will continue to open themselves up to ridiculous claims of discrimination and the courts will have no choice but to side with the OMCG's. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pitts Posted October 11, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted October 11, 2013 new laws are being drafted in Queensland to ban motorcyclists riding in groups of three or more to stop them using numbers to intimidate. Should try that here. Firstly, LOL! Secondly the law to ban groups of motorcyclists is a terrible idea and I think somewhat discriminatory. What about those of us that are part of a regular old Motorcycle club that enjoy going for a ride together on the weekend? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midas Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 That's a good move. That sounds like something that old Joh Bjelke-Petersen would have instigated. He was a tough Premier but Queensland was all the better for it. Made QLD all the better for it? For what? What did QLD get out of it? They're still playing catch up with the rest of the states and only sit ahead of Tasmania, because, well, they're not part of the mainland. He was a nut job... Using claims that the drapes would fade much quicker in households if QLD adopted daylight savings... And the cows would stop producing milk... Almost as stupid as these laws... "Can do (sweet f*** all) Campbell" is just trying to big note himself in front of the LNP faithful. The guy's got no idea, going from Brisbane City Mayor to Premier in the blink of an election? He certainly wouldn't be out of place sitting amongst the PTP. Reminds me of a certain former PM actually. Unfortunately, probably says more about the people of QLD than it does anything else. They won't pass, they tried, succeeded and then lost on appeal (in NSW and SA). It'll go to the High Court, everyone will site the constitutional laws that liberate these OMCG members. The people writing these drafts need to get their wording right, otherwise there's sweet fanny adams chance of these ever coming into effect. I don't have any affiliations with OMCG's nor do I support what they do, but if the Police want these laws to be entered into law, they've got to get the wording right. Otherwise they will continue to open themselves up to ridiculous claims of discrimination and the courts will have no choice but to side with the OMCG's. I liked him anyway but each to their own And he had far more principal than the wishy-washy politicians of today by the way he left Queensland's booming economy with a triple-A credit rating. And there was one occasion when a worker had refused to eat at the same table as aboriginal workers. Joh told his sister to get the man a tray and then told him to eat outside! And, much to Joh's sister Neta's amusement, the man did. Word of this - in an era when normally a white man would be inside and aborigines outside - spread through the district like a bushfire. But that was Joh. He did what he knew to be right. http://www.newsweekly.com.au/article.php?id=2298 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 It looks like the motorcycle gangs actively recruit culture enrichers in order to further their feuds with other gangs and their drug dealing activities. http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/criminal-bikie-gangs-boost-numbers-with-young-muslim-and-eastern-european-recruits/story-fni0cx12-1226733932077 Yet more of the many blessings of Multiculturalism, bet you see no biker gangs on PNG. Police sources said gangs such as the Bandidos were embracing multiculturalism, signing up Lebanese, Turkish and Balkan members from across Sydney as they seek to beef up their ranks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverSure Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 This is what you get when you have a nanny state. Even the law abiding can lose their freedoms. The criminals still have guns but the law abiding are defenseless. The criminals will continually get stronger and add more criminals to their ranks to assure it. Eventually even the police will be afraid of them and that's what's driving the police to want to limit the number of bikes which can ride together. The answer of course is to severely punish criminals, and leave the law abiding alone. Riding in groups isn't a crime. Committing crimes is when the law should step in. But laws bind only the law abiding. Laws take freedoms away from only the law abiding. About the incident in the US posted above. First, the police are combing the videos and arresting everyone they can. Some are actually police officers. If that was me in the SUV, about the time they broke my window out, I would have shot two or three of them (legally) and the rest of them would have run like scared rabbits. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briboy Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 new laws are being drafted in Queensland to ban motorcyclists riding in groups of three or more to stop them using numbers to intimidate. Should try that here. That's a good move. That sounds like something that old Joh Bjelke-Petersen would have instigated. He was a tough Premier but Queensland was all the better for it. Made QLD all the better for it? For what? What did QLD get out of it? They're still playing catch up with the rest of the states and only sit ahead of Tasmania, because, well, they're not part of the mainland. He was a nut job... Using claims that the drapes would fade much quicker in households if QLD adopted daylight savings... And the cows would stop producing milk... Almost as stupid as these laws... "Can do (sweet f*** all) Campbell" is just trying to big note himself in front of the LNP faithful. The guy's got no idea, going from Brisbane City Mayor to Premier in the blink of an election? He certainly wouldn't be out of place sitting amongst the PTP. Reminds me of a certain former PM actually. Unfortunately, probably says more about the people of QLD than it does anything else. They won't pass, they tried, succeeded and then lost on appeal (in NSW and SA). It'll go to the High Court, everyone will site the constitutional laws that liberate these OMCG members. The people writing these drafts need to get their wording right, otherwise there's sweet fanny adams chance of these ever coming into effect. I don't have any affiliations with OMCG's nor do I support what they do, but if the Police want these laws to be entered into law, they've got to get the wording right. Otherwise they will continue to open themselves up to ridiculous claims of discrimination and the courts will have no choice but to side with the OMCG's. apparently F###all Newman`s security has been beefed up big time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briboy Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 just now on a news update here in OZ that there is another raid on the Hells Angels, this time the military are on the ground helping the Vic cops 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midas Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Australia biker gangs: Queensland plans tough laws The state plans to establish a prison solely for convicted motorcycle gang members. The move comes after an escalation in biker gang-linked violence in recent years. Queensland Premier Campbell Newman said the new laws were designed to "destroy" motorcycle gangs, which are also known as bikie gangs. He said they would be the toughest anti-bikie laws in the world. The bills are scheduled for their second reading in Queensland's parliament on Tuesday. Local media report that the legislation could be passed by the parliament as early as Tuesday evening. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-24516187 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butterlimbo Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 It looks like the motorcycle gangs actively recruit culture enrichers in order to further their feuds with other gangs and their drug dealing activities. http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/criminal-bikie-gangs-boost-numbers-with-young-muslim-and-eastern-european-recruits/story-fni0cx12-1226733932077 Yet more of the many blessings of Multiculturalism, bet you see no biker gangs on PNG. Police sources said gangs such as the Bandidos were embracing multiculturalism, signing up Lebanese, Turkish and Balkan members from across Sydney as they seek to beef up their ranks. Lol. its a Motorcycle Club , not the KKK. and there is nothing illegal to have international friends from foreign countries. there are also Thai MC who welcome foreigners to their clubs. what kind of fascists you are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 A post with messed up quotes has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverSure Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Lol. its a Motorcycle Club , not the KKK. and there is nothing illegal to have international friends from foreign countries. there are also Thai MC who welcome foreigners to their clubs. what kind of fascists you are? Did you read the original story? Here, from the end of it: "Earlier this year, police launched a series of dawn raids across Sydney targeting outlaw motorcycle gangs, seizing firearms, explosives and drugs." There is nothing wrong with having a motorcycle club or a car club or a boat club. What's wrong is what these particular people are doing. IMHO it has nothing to do with motorcycles and everything to do with criminal activity and that's where I think the powers that be miss the point. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butterlimbo Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 (edited) Lol. its a Motorcycle Club , not the KKK. and there is nothing illegal to have international friends from foreign countries. there are also Thai MC who welcome foreigners to their clubs. what kind of fascists you are? Did you read the original story? Here, from the end of it: "Earlier this year, police launched a series of dawn raids across Sydney targeting outlaw motorcycle gangs, seizing firearms, explosives and drugs." There is nothing wrong with having a motorcycle club or a car club or a boat club. What's wrong is what these particular people are doing. IMHO it has nothing to do with motorcycles and everything to do with criminal activity and that's where I think the powers that be miss the point. did you read this comment. The issue of this dudes seems not to be that a MC is allegedly involved in illegal activities, but that it isn't an all-white or white-only MC. Edited October 16, 2013 by butterlimbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chao Lao Beach Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 new laws are being drafted in Queensland to ban motorcyclists riding in groups of three or more to stop them using numbers to intimidate. Should try that here. That's a good move. That sounds like something that old Joh Bjelke-Petersen would have instigated. He was a tough Premier but Queensland was all the better for it. You have got to be kidding about Joh, he was a extremely corrupt launintic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrantSmith Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Lol. its a Motorcycle Club , not the KKK. and there is nothing illegal to have international friends from foreign countries. there are also Thai MC who welcome foreigners to their clubs. what kind of fascists you are? Did you read the original story? Here, from the end of it: "Earlier this year, police launched a series of dawn raids across Sydney targeting outlaw motorcycle gangs, seizing firearms, explosives and drugs." There is nothing wrong with having a motorcycle club or a car club or a boat club. What's wrong is what these particular people are doing. IMHO it has nothing to do with motorcycles and everything to do with criminal activity and that's where I think the powers that be miss the point. did you read this comment.The issue of this dudes seems not to be that a MC is allegedly involved in illegal activities, but that it isn't an all-white or white-only MC. Errrr ummm... No, but thanks for playing... A number of OMCG's have 'embraced' multiculturalism, which, could quite possibly be blamed for the increased exposure or attention they have received in recent years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butterlimbo Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 (edited) Lol. its a Motorcycle Club , not the KKK. and there is nothing illegal to have international friends from foreign countries. there are also Thai MC who welcome foreigners to their clubs. what kind of fascists you are? Did you read the original story? Here, from the end of it: "Earlier this year, police launched a series of dawn raids across Sydney targeting outlaw motorcycle gangs, seizing firearms, explosives and drugs." There is nothing wrong with having a motorcycle club or a car club or a boat club. What's wrong is what these particular people are doing. IMHO it has nothing to do with motorcycles and everything to do with criminal activity and that's where I think the powers that be miss the point. did you read this comment. The issue of this dudes seems not to be that a MC is allegedly involved in illegal activities, but that it isn't an all-white or white-only MC. Errrr ummm... No, but thanks for playing... A number of OMCG's have 'embraced' multiculturalism, which, could quite possibly be blamed for the increased exposure or attention they have received in recent years. a lot of the MCs like the Hell Angels or the Bandidos and other MCs are international MCs with Chapters in many countries. So why the surprise if they are open to foreigners? I don't get it. to be in a MC or to be a foreigner doesn't automatically mean to be a criminal. multiculturalism is also not a crime. Edited October 16, 2013 by butterlimbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midas Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 (edited) for all those who said these laws wouldn't pass..............they did Tough QLD anti bikie laws pass through Parliament Updated 8 hours 19 minutes ago Queensland's Parliament has passed what are being described as the toughest anti-bikie laws in the country. Some critics say they are draconian and pointless but Campbell Newman says his Government is determined to demonstrate how serious it is about tackling mindless violence caused by outlaw motorcycle gangs. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-16/tough-qld-anti-bikie-laws-pass-through-parliament/5025486 Edited October 16, 2013 by midas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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