Rimmer Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Robotic parking garage set to open in Pattaya next month PATTAYA:--Thailand’s first automated parking garage is expected to open in November at Bali Hai Pier, offering storage of cars and, eventually, boats. Using a computerized-elevator system by Simmatec Robotic of South Korea, the 735 million baht garage will offer 407 parking spaces on seven floors. Three hydraulic “Transo Devices” will lift cars into and out of spaces. Each car must be shorter than 5.2 meters long, 1.9 meters tall and weigh no more than 2.3 tons. Vehicles also must measure no more than 13 cm. from ground to engine. Also in the works is an automated, 360-boat mooring project that similarly would lift watercraft into slots. That project, however, is even more behind schedule than the parking garage. Full story:http://www.pattayamail.com/localnews/robotic-parking-garage-set-to-open-in-pattaya-next-month-31196 -- Pattaya Mail 2013-10-18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brabo2180 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 I'll pass. Thank you. I'll probably never see my car again, lost in the automated car park. On top of that, it looks like a playground for thieves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spalpeen Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 This should be good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 given the state of the multi-story carpark at my former condo, how long before it is full up of abandoned cars, pick ups, Tuc Tucs, bicycles, etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeThePoster Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Dam_n, no more whistles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davethailand Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 What a pointless and crazy waste of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longtooth Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 At 735 million baht, how long will it take to pay for this system? Figure upkeep, interest lost from capital investment, electricity, at least one guard, etc. How much would you have to charge a car to park to break even, moneywise? Will it be full all the time? It seems odd. Maybe it's an advertising demonstration unit for the Korean company... true cost subsidized. It would go, in downtown San Francisco, where the lots are $5 an hour, and full. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maestro Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 From the news article: ...Vehicles also must measure no more than 13 cm. from ground to engine... How much above the ground is my car's engine? Honestly, I don't know, and I don't think it is indicated in the manual. I can already see the notice at the entrance: "The operators of this parking facility decline any responsibility for damage to vehicles not conforming with the published measurements" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davethailand Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 (edited) Now everyone can bring their car to Walking st at night.........and drive home pi**ed. Edited October 18, 2013 by davethailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i claudius Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 A bit out of the way unless you are going to walking street ,and how much will it cost to park , think i will stick to central where its free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spalpeen Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 There are two reasons why I'm highly sceptical about this facility. First, automated car parks have a slow turnaround time. This is fine for long term storage sites like, say, airports, but no use at all for Bali Hai where you need a fast turnover. Second, anyone who watched the construction will have noticed that there are two levels underground. Underground construction is hugely more expensive than adding two more levels to the top and only makes financial sense in the middle of a city where land and floor space is expensive. Also, since the lowest level is probably below sea level, watch what happens the first time there's a rain storm and the pumps break down. And if your car is stuck inside on a day when the retrieval mechanism breaks down, be prepared to hear the words "cannot, cannot" as you wonder how you're going to get home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD13 Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Is it the 1st of April?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LennyW Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 In theory a good idea vertical storage, but..... as Spalpeen said turnaround would be slow, better if this was used to store all those unsightly boats and leave that area open for car parking - or is that too simple? I think the 13cm in the article is wrong, surely that should be a minimum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Does this really save much more space than a standard multi-story car park ? I can see how and why this is necessary in Major Cities where space is hugely expensive and comes at a premium such as Tokyo, Hong Kong, London etc... I am wondering as to the logic of placing something like this in Pattaya when a standard Mulit-story car park would do just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 What a pointless and crazy waste of money. It's taken them ages to build it too !! they really should have left the park alone the area is ruined now. before after Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARGUSEYE Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 What does the article say??? .... 350 slots for boats above the water line to shelter them from high seas??? What am I missing here? Haven't they built this ugly marina and that expensive breakwater exactly for that purpous? Something does not add up here. A 350 boat storage facility on the spot where they (mis-) handle the island rubbish??? In addition to the marina? What a nonsense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 From the news article: ...Vehicles also must measure no more than 13 cm. from ground to engine... How much above the ground is my car's engine? Honestly, I don't know, and I don't think it is indicated in the manual. I can already see the notice at the entrance: "The operators of this parking facility decline any responsibility for damage to vehicles not conforming with the published measurements" "I can already see the notice at the entrance:"... They probably make everybody sign a disclaimer in 20 odd languages as well particularly as half the spaces are below sea level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzi850m2 Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Does this really save much more space than a standard multi-story car park ? I can see how and why this is necessary in Major Cities where space is hugely expensive and comes at a premium such as Tokyo, Hong Kong, London etc... I am wondering as to the logic of placing something like this in Pattaya when a standard Mulit-story car park would do just fine. It's called Thai logic which only the Thais understand (sometimes). Prime water front location and they build a below sea level robotic car park, wonna bet it's gone in 3 years from now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spalpeen Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 What a pointless and crazy waste of money. It's taken them ages to build it too !! they really should have left the park alone the area is ruined now. before IMG_1305 copy.jpg after IMAGE00267 (Medium).jpg Agree completely. Pattaya pier/end of Walking St. is a place where most of the tourist visitors will pass by at some point in their visit. There was a perfectly good little park that was well used by stallholders at festival times, or just by people taking a rest any other time. This should have been a showpiece area for Pattaya and they built an ugly multi storey car park in the middle of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwex Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 public land that has been taken from the public so a few people can make money off a few people that might park their cars there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywais Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Pretty common in Japan where space is pretty limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywais Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 It would seem a vertical version would been more practical and minimize the property footprint. Though I believe there are vertical building height limits that may preclude it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spalpeen Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 (edited) It would seem a vertical version would been more practical and minimize the property footprint. Though I believe there are vertical building height limits that may preclude it.If you've been down to Bali Hai recently you'll notice that any vertical height limits have gone out the window. I'd be very wary of buying a unit in that new building in case someone then sticks another tall building right in front of you in the boat yard. Edited October 19, 2013 by Spalpeen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banchang Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 Quiet bizzarly this was tried when they built the 60s bull ring in Birmingham. It was closed within days as they hadn't thought about the time it takes to retrieve your vehicle. Huge lines of shoppers with heavy bags built up as the system took up to 5 minuets to retrieve each car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banchang Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 http://www.britishpathe.com/video/bull-ring-centre-opened/query/AUTO+PARKING Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Still not open !!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya28 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Why do I have the feeling that if I used this car-parking facility, the chance of ever seeing my car again is relatively low ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSixpack Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Why do I have the feeling that if I used this car-parking facility, the chance of ever seeing my car again is relatively low ? I dunno. How old are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brevity Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 (edited) I wouldn't take my chances with this set up. It will be interesting to see how it goes, assuming it will actually be opened. A poll would be interesting to see how many people would trust it enough to use it. Edited February 25, 2014 by Brevity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Ridicilous ! I will never park my car there, I want to see where I park and make sure my car is safe. Sent from my SM-P601 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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