webfact Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Travel-warning threat looms over tourismBamrung AmnatcharoenritThe NationBANGKOK: -- The tourism industry could lose Bt25 billion in revenue next month if countries issue their highest warnings against travelling to the Kingdom, said Sugree Sithivanich, deputy governor for marketing communications of the Tourism Authority of Thailand (TAT).If that were to happen, the number of foreign arrivals in December would drop by 8-10 per cent year on year. That would mean that for the whole of 2013, the number of arrivals would be only 25.75 million, down from 26.1 million as projected previously.If such a situation lasted into the first quarter of 2014, the number of foreign tourists could be expected to grow by just 7 per cent year on year. Previously, the TAT expected arrivals to increase by 13 per cent to 28.01 million next year. However, tourism revenue would be about the same as projected previously, with an increase of almost 13 per cent to about Bt1.326 trillion.Still, Sugree said that if this scenario transpired, only one to three months would be needed for a recovery, thanks to the quick rebound of short-haul foreign tourists.If the scenario got even worse, like in 2008 when Suvarnabhumi Airport was shut down by protesters, the tourism outlook would be hit even harder. According to the TAT's projection, the number of foreign tourists would plunge to 650,000 in December, a decline of 18-20 per cent year on year, with a corresponding revenue loss of Bt27.9 billion. As a result, the total number of foreign tourists in 2013 would be just 25.55 million.Sugree said it was hard for the TAT to analyse the situation because the political landscape is still cloudy, as is the probable impact with tourism. The degree of its impact would depend on the situation. For example, if there are casualties or the use of tear gas to disperse demonstrators, the outlook still may not be too gloomy.But if the situation escalated into civil war, that would put an end to tourism. It would take the industry at least six months to rebound from that eventuality.So far, however, tourism has not suffered. There is no sign of any cancellations of hotel reservations.The 27 TAT overseas offices have made a major effort to provide potential tourists with clear information about the situation. Arrivals from China, Singapore and Malaysia, which are among the key short-haul markets along with Japan, are still at a good level.So far, the flow of foreign tourists into the Kingdom continues to rise. According to the TAT, arrivals increased by 17.08 per cent to about 26.171 million in the period from January to November 14 when compared with the same period last year. During the period, tourism revenue grew by 19.69 per cent year on year to about Bt1.177 trillion.-- The Nation 2013-11-26 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemoncake Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Right , so if countries issue highest warning it will only drop by 10%, in other words still just as much as last year if not more. Good to see TAT is optimistic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thainy Tim Posted November 26, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted November 26, 2013 But if the situation escalated into civil war, that would put an end to tourism. It would take the industry at least six months to rebound from that eventuality. Lol.... If the situation descended into civil war , it would take years to rebound, if in fact it was ever able to at all. Once a country has a bloody civil war, as far tourists are concerned, it becomes a blacklisted country in their minds. Especially if the war lasted years.... Not that it will ever go that far. Unless of course that is what is on one man's agenda back in Dubai. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tatsujin Posted November 26, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted November 26, 2013 Sugree said it was hard for the TAT to analyse the situation because the political landscape is still cloudy, as is the probable impact with tourism, but please rest assured that TAT will continue to overestimate and makeup the numbers to suit regardless of the current or future situation. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post coobah666 Posted November 26, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted November 26, 2013 Better than 2 trillion baht lost to coruption 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurentbkk Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 well it only started .... wait for another few days ... some friends already asked me about the situation , they are suppose to come in January .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assayer Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Travel-warning threat looms over tourismBamrung AmnatcharoenritThe NationBANGKOK: -- The tourism industry could lose Bt25 billion in revenue next month if countries issue their highest warnings against travelling to the Kingdom, said Sugree Sithivanich, deputy governor for marketing communications of the Tourism Authority of Thailand (TAT).If that were to happen, the number of foreign arrivals in December would drop by 8-10 per cent year on year. That would mean that for the whole of 2013, the number of arrivals would be only 25.75 million, down from 26.1 million as projected previously.If such a situation lasted into the first quarter of 2014, the number of foreign tourists could be expected to grow by just 7 per cent year on year. Previously, the TAT expected arrivals to increase by 13 per cent to 28.01 million next year. However, tourism revenue would be about the same as projected previously, with an increase of almost 13 per cent to about Bt1.326 trillion.Still, Sugree said that if this scenario transpired, only one to three months would be needed for a recovery, thanks to the quick rebound of short-haul foreign tourists.If the scenario got even worse, like in 2008 when Suvarnabhumi Airport was shut down by protesters, the tourism outlook would be hit even harder. According to the TAT's projection, the number of foreign tourists would plunge to 650,000 in December, a decline of 18-20 per cent year on year, with a corresponding revenue loss of Bt27.9 billion. As a result, the total number of foreign tourists in 2013 would be just 25.55 million.Sugree said it was hard for the TAT to analyse the situation because the political landscape is still cloudy, as is the probable impact with tourism. The degree of its impact would depend on the situation. For example, if there are casualties or the use of tear gas to disperse demonstrators, the outlook still may not be too gloomy.But if the situation escalated into civil war, that would put an end to tourism. It would take the industry at least six months to rebound from that eventuality.So far, however, tourism has not suffered. There is no sign of any cancellations of hotel reservations.The 27 TAT overseas offices have made a major effort to provide potential tourists with clear information about the situation. Arrivals from China, Singapore and Malaysia, which are among the key short-haul markets along with Japan, are still at a good level.So far, the flow of foreign tourists into the Kingdom continues to rise. According to the TAT, arrivals increased by 17.08 per cent to about 26.171 million in the period from January to November 14 when compared with the same period last year. During the period, tourism revenue grew by 19.69 per cent year on year to about Bt1.177 trillion. If that were to happen, the number of foreign arrivals in December would drop by 8-10 per cent year on year. That would mean that for the whole of 2013, the number of arrivals would be only 25.75 million, down from 26.1 million as projected previously. So far, the flow of foreign tourists into the Kingdom continues to rise. According to the TAT, arrivals increased by 17.08 per cent to about 26.171 million in the period from January to November 14 when compared with the same period last year. During the period, tourism revenue grew by 19.69 per cent year on year to about Bt1.177 trillion. Someones number don't make sense to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thailiketoo Posted November 26, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted November 26, 2013 They have to push the Guy Fawkes night theme a bit more. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post noitom Posted November 26, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted November 26, 2013 Why would tourists even travel to Thailand particularly at this point? Why risk your vacation, business or sexual desires on it? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon467848 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 The TAT should employ somebody who knows how to use a calculator.. TAT are in fantasy land with their arrival numbers and the dollars spent for each arrival. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Why do these idiots almost always pull this crap right at the beginning of high season? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailiketoo Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 The TAT should employ somebody who knows how to use a calculator.. TAT are in fantasy land with their arrival numbers and the dollars spent for each arrival. If you know the TAT is wrong you must have the real numbers. So tell us. If you don't have the real numbers how do you know the TAT is wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DocN Posted November 26, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted November 26, 2013 This is still, where TAT pulls numbers and analysis out off 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailiketoo Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 This is still, where TAT pulls numbers and analysis out off 15) Not to use ThaiVisa.com to post any material which is knowingly or can be reasonably construed as false, inaccurate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coma Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 It pains me that Thais outside the toursim industry, and particularly those protesting right now don't really care about travel warnings and tourist numbers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRSoul Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 (edited) The TAT should employ somebody who knows how to use a calculator.. TAT are in fantasy land with their arrival numbers and the dollars spent for each arrival. If you know the TAT is wrong you must have the real numbers. So tell us. If you don't have the real numbers how do you know the TAT is wrong? As the TAT number is only an estimate/prediction, the odds of it being wrong are almost infinitely higher than of it being right. Edited November 26, 2013 by JRSoul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silent Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 The TAT should employ somebody who knows how to use a calculator.. TAT are in fantasy land with their arrival numbers and the dollars spent for each arrival. If you know the TAT is wrong you must have the real numbers. So tell us. If you don't have the real numbers how do you know the TAT is wrong? Best guess: Randomly picked numbers usually go by without questioning, except for another random number of people that might take the time to figure it out. Go figure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nong38 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Why is that Thais dont ever consider what the rest of the world thinks about Thailand? They just dont seem to consider how others view these endless protests from opposition groups, perhaps thats where TAT comes in to say how many tourists come and how much it will increase by, all spurious figures of course and the average Thai problem never sees them. The timing of these protests is also wonderful just as the high season is about to kick off, amazing. A civil War is not likely but it kill off the tourist trade for years, not 6 months. Perhaps the real answer is to split the country up into a Democrat Thailand and PTP Thailand although it would take years of talks and endless protests over where the borders would be, until then Thailand continues with its folly of disruption. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noitom Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Why is that Thais dont ever consider what the rest of the world thinks about Thailand? They just dont seem to consider how others view these endless protests from opposition groups, perhaps thats where TAT comes in to say how many tourists come and how much it will increase by, all spurious figures of course and the average Thai problem never sees them. The timing of these protests is also wonderful just as the high season is about to kick off, amazing. A civil War is not likely but it kill off the tourist trade for years, not 6 months. Perhaps the real answer is to split the country up into a Democrat Thailand and PTP Thailand although it would take years of talks and endless protests over where the borders would be, until then Thailand continues with its folly of disruption. Thailand is a circus for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EyesWideOpen Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 TAT is always spinning nonsense about problems that other countries face will not affect tourism in Thailand in the slightest. Wonder how they will spin backyard problems ?? Adventure travel ? Come to Amazing Thailand and enjoy your first coup !!!! Why go to a boring country ??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawadee1947 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 ..hope many countries would give a warning soon. It will help to cool down the protesters and would make the government work again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BlackJack Posted November 26, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted November 26, 2013 political unrest murder on the streets muggings noise from boom cars floods drugs prostitution unlicensed bars, cars, bikes, businesses jet ski scams baht bus scams scams in general alcohol more expensive than UK alcohol sales hours for children noise pollution muslim insurgency in South food poisoning warnings did i miss something ??????? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggold Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 I like the way the number of visitors keeps rising even when there are political problems here! I thought a couple months ago they were saying the expected 24 million visitors this year! that seems to have increased to 28 million for next year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfukata Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 TAT pax numbers reflect the Thai rice numbers, always disguised and inaccurate to mislead the public. Also, TAT has mentioned nothing about the impact pending from the Russian government about canceling all the Russian charter flights into Thailand due in part of the safety of their citizens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bpuumike Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 It pains me to remind all again about Sir Winston Churchill. To paraphrase slightly "There are lies, dam-n lies and TAT statistics" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpeg Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Here on Phuket, high season and no bloody tourists. Fabulous! And no I don't give a rat's about the boom boom bar owners/tuk tuk drivers/overpriced crap restaurants et al. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloghead Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 (edited) political unrest murder on the streets muggings noise from boom cars floods drugs prostitution unlicensed bars, cars, bikes, businesses jet ski scams baht bus scams scams in general alcohol more expensive than UK alcohol sales hours for children noise pollution muslim insurgency in South food poisoning warnings did i miss something ??????? yeah! contaminated rice less-than-friendly (non-compliant) ladyboys Edited November 26, 2013 by cloghead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fookhaht Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 ..hope many countries would give a warning soon. It will help to cool down the protesters and would make the government work again Really? How did that work out in 2010? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felt 35 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 political unrest murder on the streets muggings noise from boom cars floods drugs prostitution unlicensed bars, cars, bikes, businesses jet ski scams baht bus scams scams in general alcohol more expensive than UK alcohol sales hours for children noise pollution muslim insurgency in South food poisoning warnings did i miss something ??????? Yes.......http://www.humantrafficking.org/countries/thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagwan Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 (edited) Why is that Thais dont ever consider what the rest of the world thinks about Thailand? They just dont seem to consider how others view these endless protests from opposition groups, perhaps thats where TAT comes in to say how many tourists come and how much it will increase by, all spurious figures of course and the average Thai problem never sees them. The timing of these protests is also wonderful just as the high season is about to kick off, amazing. A civil War is not likely but it kill off the tourist trade for years, not 6 months. Perhaps the real answer is to split the country up into a Democrat Thailand and PTP Thailand although it would take years of talks and endless protests over where the borders would be, until then Thailand continues with its folly of disruption. If I were ripped off, subject to discrimination, denied a reasonable education, health facilities and career opportunities I wouldn't give a toss what the people in Mongolia thought. Modified to correct a typo. Edited November 26, 2013 by Bagwan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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