webfact Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Abhisit likely to remain Democrat party leaderBANGKOK: -- Abhisit Vejjajiva is likely to retain his post as the Democrat party leader after Surin Pitsuwan, former ASEAN secretary-general, has declined to be nominated to challenge Abiisit’s leadership, according to well-informed party sources. The sources further said that former Phitsanuloke MP Chuti Krairiksh was likely to be named the new secretary-general succeeding Chalermchai Sri-on thanks to the strong support from Chuan Leekpai, the party’s advisory chairman, and Suthep Thuagsuban, former party secretary-general.The Democrat party is due to meet tomorrow (Tuesday) to elect a new expanded executive committee which includes the party leader, deputy leaders, secretary-general and others.Former Democrat deputy leader Alongkorn Polabutr said Monday that the only way for the Democrats to win the election is that the party must undergo a major restructure of the party which includes management, organizational culture, planning, policy and thinking.He said whether the party would contest the February 2 election would be judged by the next executive committee. But whatever the decision, the party must be able to explain to the public, he added.Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/abhisit-likely-remain-democrat-party-leader/ -- Thai PBS 2013-12-16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaidam Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Might not be such a good idea, he still has the very serious charge hanging over him. I'm talking about his taking a holiday in the Maldives during Yingluck's great flood. Also some paperwork issues from his cub-scout days? Damaged goods. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post casindonet Posted December 16, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 16, 2013 IMHO the democrats should also be reform....a new breed of politicians, Korn as the new leader. Without a reform, DP will remain as opposition party for a very long time. Thailand as a whole needs a reform but not the Suthep way. Sent from my GT-I9200 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Zolt Posted December 16, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 16, 2013 IMHO the democrats should also be reform....a new breed of politicians, Korn as the new leader. Without a reform, DP will remain as opposition party for a very long time. Thailand as a whole needs a reform but not the Suthep way. Sent from my GT-I9200 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app I agree, Abhisit might be the darling of female hi-so, but he's much too close to Suthep and the 2011 events to make a good figurehead for the democrats. Under his watch, the democrats went down from 14 million votes on the proportional ballot in 2007 to 11 million in 2011. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginjag Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Beats most of the other rabble, find other YES by all means and have a clean start. Anyone wanting this present lot in power wants their head examining. Get rid of the red family, reform sure disband the yellow lot also and have a real fresh go of it. A chance to clean this badly tainted land and get rid of mafia-scams-big reform of TAT -AOT-Thai airways and more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Can he/they actually stand for reelection after resigning their posts? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MobileContent Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I think Khun Surin might play it save. If Abhisit goes for the election he will loose big time across all provinces. Surin Pitsuwan will step in after Abhisit steps down. Abhisit stopped down before already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spare Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I thought he quit already? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cacruden Posted December 16, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 16, 2013 IMHO the democrats should also be reform....a new breed of politicians, Korn as the new leader. Without a reform, DP will remain as opposition party for a very long time. Thailand as a whole needs a reform but not the Suthep way. Sent from my GT-I9200 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app I agree, Abhisit might be the darling of female hi-so, but he's much too close to Suthep and the 2011 events to make a good figurehead for the democrats. Under his watch, the democrats went down from 14 million votes on the proportional ballot in 2007 to 11 million in 2011. I disagree. Sometimes party leaders can be hamstrung by the party and the members that it represents, which I have a feeling is the case. Suthep is/was a party senior and therefore Abhisit had to have deference towards him, get rid of the likes of Suthep and Abhisit would probably be better able to compete. The problem is the party system needs reforming itself, allow the rank and file to chose their own members, allow members to join the party and get that vote and to draw up the party platform. Without that the Democrats will continue to be in opposition. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Are people who are up on Murder charges allowed to run for election? Amazing Thailand ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ib1b4 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 IMHO the democrats should also be reform....a new breed of politicians, Korn as the new leader. Without a reform, DP will remain as opposition party for a very long time. Thailand as a whole needs a reform but not the Suthep way. Sent from my GT-I9200 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app I agree, Abhisit might be the darling of female hi-so, but he's much too close to Suthep and the 2011 events to make a good figurehead for the democrats. Under his watch, the democrats went down from 14 million votes on the proportional ballot in 2007 to 11 million in 2011. Abphisit will be reappointed Democrat party leader. When Abphisit was given the right to be Prime minister in 2008. He was most likely not involved with the deals made by the party execuitive in formation of a coailition. And he was at that time prepared and willing to make necessary political reforms for the good of both the Democrat party and all of the people of Thailand. But with the advent of the red shirt protest movement against that appointment and the lack of support of the Democrat execuitive he was literally hung out to dry until he had to abandon those principles of reform . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 (edited) Interesting to contrast the several days, that it takes for the Dems to meet and re-confirm former-PM Abhisit as their leader, with the several hours it took for PTP to 'decide' that Yingluck would run again. A cynic might wonder whether they'd actually had a party-discussion, and voted, at all ! Perhaps democracy works faster in Dubai ? Edited December 16, 2013 by Ricardo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcutman Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Korn would be a much better choice, IMHO. The man has every thing AV has without the background of BS. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxLee Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 "Abhisit likely to remain Democrat party leader" So where was he, when all his supporters marched the Bangkok streets and got their eyes gauged with tear gas. Why did he let Suthep handle the dirty work,... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man River Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Can he/they actually stand for reelection after resigning their posts? I can't see why not as the House has been dissolved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FangFerang Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 This is more complicated than it seems. Both sides are guilty of the charges the other side files. Both. Both sides are guilty of every corrution charge in the law. The key issue, to me, is compromise...will either side meet someone to talk about the middle ground? No. Not yet. Mai pen rai. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Are people who are up on Murder charges allowed to run for election? Amazing Thailand ! Why not? Last election PTP openly used the picture of a convicted criminal fugitive, and his name in their campaign slogan. They illegally issued a new passport to him and caused the current protest situation by crudely trying to ram a bill through parliament to whitewash all his crimes. Nobody seems to give a stuff. Amazing Thailand indeed! If you're rich and connected then anything is possible, for a price. No need to worry about the law, that's just for the poor people. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Abhisits strength is his good English, he can give interviews to foreign interviewers and people actually understand what he says. So make him the Foreign Minister, get a new face to be a PM-wannabe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomacht8 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 (edited) I like this statement: "Former Democrat deputy leader Alongkorn Polabutr said Monday that the only way for the Democrats to win the election is that the party must undergo a major restructure of the party which includes management, organizational culture, planning, policy and thinking." Better to flesh out the content and goals first, as people and faces. Do it first, and then nominate the best person you have in an election within the party. Make this process publicly visible and you can win elections, as a party. May they choose as a slogan:All think, and all do! Edited December 16, 2013 by tomacht8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jarse Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Might not be such a good idea, he still has the very serious charge hanging over him. I'm talking about his taking a holiday in the Maldives during Yingluck's great flood. Also some paperwork issues from his cub-scout days? Damaged goods. It's more serious than that. He lacks any legitimacy (the right to rule) as does his party by the majority of folks in the north and north-east.His party is an anachronism (outdated ) in 21st century Thailand. I am no supporter of PT but they at least offer some hope/progress for those on the fringes of the power wielders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
binjalin Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 'Democrats likely to lose next election' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
englishoak Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I thought he quit already? I was sure he quit too along with all the others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yunla Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 (edited) His deckchair is positioned at the front of the deck, with a super view of the iceberg. Edited December 16, 2013 by Yunla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentors Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Maybe the Fallen Angel will need his UK Passport pretty soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brit1984 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 (edited) because of suthep there is not much time until the next election and the democrats have little (~zero) chance of winning (if they had just waited another year i think they could have been well positioned) i really like abhisit but i think he's lost power internally (otherwise he would have stopped suthep) but looking forward it would make sense to make a change after the forthcoming election korn is smart (went to st johns with abhisit) and no doubt he could design/lead economic policy changes that are sensible (and popular) but the democrats need to market him as the guy who is going to use his financial brain to help the poor (and not a greedy ex-banker) Edited December 17, 2013 by brit1984 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangon04 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 because of suthep there is not much time until the next election and the democrats have little (~zero) chance of winning (if they had just waited another year i think they could have been well positioned) i really like abhisit but i think he's lost power internally (otherwise he would have stopped suthep) but looking forward it would make sense to make a change after the forthcoming election korn is smart (went to st johns with abhisit) and no doubt he could design/lead economic policy changes that are sensible (and popular) but the democrats need to market him as the guy who is going to use his financial brain to help the poor (and not a greedy ex-banker) Chuan Leekpai is still pulling strings in the background. and we haven't heard much from Newin recently, have we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocN Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Not a good idea. If they ask for an overhaul of their counter- part, maybe they should get rid of "tarnished" faces as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted December 17, 2013 Author Share Posted December 17, 2013 POLITICSAbhisit to lead Democrats for fourth termThe NationBANGKOK: -- Abhisit Vejjajiva was re-elected on Tuesday as Democrat party leader for the fourth consecutive term in the party's general assembly.Abhisit, who received 98 per cent of the votes and was nominated by party adviser Banyat Banthatthan, thanked party members for their support. There was no competition to his candidacy.Former Asean secretary general Surin Pitsuwan, earlier rumoured for selection as party leader to enhance the party's image, also attended the meeting but could not vote, as he is not an exexecutive board member nor a former MP.-- The Nation 2013-12-17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian pinnell Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 (edited) Surely this will be hard from inside Bangkok Hilton? Edited December 17, 2013 by metisdead Bold font removed, please do not make it a habit to post in bold fonts. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man River Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 This is more complicated than it seems. Both sides are guilty of the charges the other side files. Both. Both sides are guilty of every corrution charge in the law. The key issue, to me, is compromise...will either side meet someone to talk about the middle ground? No. Not yet. Mai pen rai. Been in Thailand for awhile haven't you. These two sides are beyond compromise. Very unThai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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