Thailand's police chief admits 'men in black' are police

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National police chief admits men in black are police



BANGKOK: -- National Police Office commissioner Pol Gen Adul Saengsingkaew this morning admitted that the men in black” on the roof-top of the Labor Ministry’s building near the Thai-Japan youth centre in Din Daeng are police.

The national police commissioner’s official admittance came as he led senior police officers to deliver best wishes and receive New Year blessings from the president of the Privy Council Gen Prem Tinsulanonda this morning.

Pol Gen Adul admitted that “men in black” are police and vowed to investigate and bring them to justice procedure.

The national police commissioner’s admittance came as the People’s Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC) is demanding clarification from the police on the presence of the{men in black” during the fierce clashes between police and protesters in front of the youth centre during the first day of the opening of the party-list candidates registration.

Two persons died in the clashes, one of them a police officer Narong Pitisit.

Forensic police later confirmed that ballistic test on the killed police officer showed he was shot from a high ground position.

But the Center for the Administration of Peace and Order said the police was a victim of the violence.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/national-police-chief-admits-men-black-police/


-- Thai PBS 2014-01-02

[SheungWan]

Well fancy that!

[wordchild]

This is not looking good for Chalerm (or Yingluck for that matter)

[jpeg]

Well I'm shocked

[ginjag]

Well that's confirmed, so they were not Apache's or Pawnee. Now where do we go from here. ???? Chalerm and others will have to explain more.

[Emptyset]

This is not looking good for Chalerm (or Yingluck for that matter)

Why was it wrong to place riot police on top of the building though? I have no idea why they didn't just admit it in the first place. I guess Adul should be applauded for his honesty although that's what should be expected, not the absurd fabrications we're used to from Chalerm. If they'd been honest about it from the beginning, there wouldn't have been all these rumours about Cambodians up there shooting at both sides etc.

[PeterSmiles]

Will Yincluck and Chalerm now be indicted for murder

[Prbkk]

What did anyone expect? Ninjas? Police, exactly where they should have been. The question is, did they do anything wrong?

[PeterSmiles]

This is not looking good for Chalerm (or Yingluck for that matter)

Why was it wrong to place riot police on top of the building though? I have no idea why they didn't just admit it in the first place.

Maybe because of this reason :

Forensic police later confirmed that ballistic test on the killed police officer showed he was shot from a high ground position.

[TVGerry]

So since the policeman who died was shot from a higher angle, it could have been a blue on blue killing. This is looking bad for the police and the Shinawatra government.

[sjjmmi]

Oh please say its not so

[Costas2008]

As I recall, many of you, Yellow bashers,said that this is a fake picture and the Yellows should be ashamed for presenting false facts.

Eat your words now.

[Valentine]

I too am shocked at this admission although no doubt some spin will soon follow.

[wordchild]

This is not looking good for Chalerm (or Yingluck for that matter)

Why was it wrong to place riot police on top of the building though? I have no idea why they didn't just admit it in the first place. I guess Adul should be applauded for his honesty although that's what should be expected, not the absurd fabrications we're used to from Chalerm. If they'd been honest about it from the beginning, there wouldn't have been all these rumours about Cambodians up there shooting at both sides etc.

depends whether or not one of them shot their brother officer!

if it becomes clear that is what happened then Yingluck and Chalerm will need an urgent flight to Dubai!

Edited January 2, 2014 by wordchild

[Rob8891]

Let's see how Captain Earwax wriggles out of this one... It's bound to be classic fabrication.....

[Mosha]

What did anyone expect? Ninjas? Police, exactly where they should have been. The question is, did they do anything wrong?

Ask the dead cop,

[MaxLee]

So that means the undercover RED FORCE police aka the men in black have burnt down Central World over 3 years ago then?

[Ricardo]

A rare moment of honesty, from the RTP, perhaps his investigation will also reveal exactly what they were armed with, and which of their munitions were actually used ?

Rubber-bullets or real-bullets, flash-bangs or fire-crackers or gas-grenades, or what ?

And is this perhaps the reason, why there was the very-public-protest from hundreds of low-level policemen/women, concerning the failure to catch the culprits for their dead colleague ?

[Local Drunk]

This is not looking good for Chalerm (or Yingluck for that matter)

Why was it wrong to place riot police on top of the building though? I have no idea why they didn't just admit it in the first place. I guess Adul should be applauded for his honesty although that's what should be expected, not the absurd fabrications we're used to from Chalerm. If they'd been honest about it from the beginning, there wouldn't have been all these rumours about Cambodians up there shooting at both sides etc.

Well are they riot police? The article doesn't mention what kind of police they are, or what units they are attached to.

I suppose that the Police Chief will get all the facts and sort it out in the end.

[Thait Spot]

So where are all the red shirt huggers that said these were Suthep's mercenaries?

Do they have the courage to apologise?

Sent from my Nexus 4 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

[tomacht8]

Which unit?

Who was the commander of the unit?

Who was the responsible team leader?
What orders were given?

Who gave orders?

What weapons were used?

Where are the application logs?

Edited January 2, 2014 by tomacht8

[wordchild]

If they were just following orders and observing, why does he go on to say they will be brought to "justice procedure" maybe he already knows what really happened!

Edited January 2, 2014 by wordchild

[Ricardo]

This is not looking good for Chalerm (or Yingluck for that matter)

Why was it wrong to place riot police on top of the building though? I have no idea why they didn't just admit it in the first place. I guess Adul should be applauded for his honesty although that's what should be expected, not the absurd fabrications we're used to from Chalerm. If they'd been honest about it from the beginning, there wouldn't have been all these rumours about Cambodians up there shooting at both sides etc.

Not all that wrong IMO to place observers on top of a ministry-building with a good view of the protest, Chalerm (as minister responsible for the building) should have been open about it and defended the decision to let them upstairs, unless it turns out that they were contributing to the violence in some way, perhaps getting carried-away & exceeding their orders ?

As police I would find it hard to believe that they were not armed with real-bullets, in their hand-weapons, or perhaps also with rubber-bullets & gas-grenades/flash-bangs.

One of the questions which now urgently needs to be answered is, which of those (if any) did they actually use, and what prompted their use ?

Did the RTP actually shoot one of their own, in a tragic accident, and did they use weapons against the anti-government protesters below ?

And lastly, why has all of this taken so long, to come out ?

Edited January 2, 2014 by Ricardo

[PeterSmiles]

If they were just following orders and observing, why does he go on to say they will be brought to "justice procedure" maybe he already knows what really happened!

If the whole of Thailand knows what happened, since they viewed the youtube video, I would expect that the police chief also knows.

[Skywalker69]

Khun Chalerm the Nationell Polis Chief just pulled your pants down for all to see, is now the time for people to call you a liar?

[scorecard]

A rare moment of honesty, from the RTP, perhaps his investigation will also reveal exactly what they were armed with, and which of their munitions were actually used ?

Rubber-bullets or real-bullets, flash-bangs or fire-crackers or gas-grenades, or what ? alt=blink.png pagespeed_url_hash=3007605675 width=20 height=20>

And is this perhaps the reason, why there was the very-public-protest from hundreds of low-level policemen/women, concerning the failure to catch the culprits for their dead colleague ?

Agree.

I wonder whether general adul is becoming concerned that this whole picture is not boding very well and ultimately he doesn't want to be caught out telling porkies.

Certainly it will be interesting to hear further comments from surapong, chalerm and the lady.

Will they comment / will anybody corner them for comment / will suthep demand their comment?

How will surapong explain this to the diplomatic community, he's been trying to convince them that the pt gov't is lilly white.

Undoubtedly suthep and his colleagues will and should take full advantage of this revelation.

Edited January 2, 2014 by scorecard

[robblok]

This is not looking good for Chalerm (or Yingluck for that matter)

Why was it wrong to place riot police on top of the building though? I have no idea why they didn't just admit it in the first place. I guess Adul should be applauded for his honesty although that's what should be expected, not the absurd fabrications we're used to from Chalerm. If they'd been honest about it from the beginning, there wouldn't have been all these rumours about Cambodians up there shooting at both sides etc.

The cop was shot from a high point... guess where these police officers are.. a high point. Ooops now the reds can't blame the anti government protectors for the death of the cop. Might even have to add that the deaths on the side of the protectors might be done by cops too.

[Curt1591]

What was the person who shot the cop wearing?

[soi41]

What did anyone expect? Ninjas? Police, exactly where they should have been. The question is, did they do anything wrong?

You mean except from killing one of their own??

[skills32]

Which unit?

Who was the commander of the unit?

Who was the responsible team leader?

What orders were given?

Who gave orders?

What weapons were used?

Where are the application logs?

You ask too many questions

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My serial number and that's all you are getting.