Popular Post Lite Beer Posted January 5, 2014 Popular Post Posted January 5, 2014 Jatuporn urges voters to come up in full force to teach Suthep a lesson BANGKOK: -- Red-shirt co-leader Jatuporn Promphan urged voters to come out in full force to go to the polls on February 2 to vote for the Pheu Thai party. Addressing red-shirt followers at the SCG stadium in Muang Thong Thani on Saturday night, Jatuporn said that the People’s Democratic Reform Committee lead by Suthep Thaugsuban would try every means to stop the election from taking place, including stealing ballot boxes.Hence, he said that it was imperative for voters to go to the polls and vote for the Pheu Thai party so it would receive more than the 15 million votes that it received in the last general election in order to teach Suthep a lesson.Jatuporn charged that Suthep did not actually want national reform but wanted to grab absolute power for himself and his associates. Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/jatuporn-urges-voters-come-full-force-teach-suthep-lesson/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=jatuporn-urges-voters-come-full-force-teach-suthep-lesson -- Thai PBS 2014-01-05 8
Popular Post dinom Posted January 5, 2014 Popular Post Posted January 5, 2014 Smile Khun Jatuporn, smile ....and were is your red shirt? Now you are a man in black or what? 8
Popular Post siampolee Posted January 5, 2014 Popular Post Posted January 5, 2014 Judging by the expression on Jutuporns face he seems to be suffering from some sort of bowel disorder, hence the error in his public statement. Jatuporn charged that Suthep did not actually want national reform but wanted to grab absolute power for himself and his associates. Jutuporn fluffs his lines yet again, it should of course read. Jatuporn charged that Thaksin did not actually want national reform but wanted to grab absolute power for himself and his associates. 18
Popular Post Smokemachine Posted January 5, 2014 Popular Post Posted January 5, 2014 Jatuporn charged that Suthep did not actually want national reform but wanted to grab absolute power for himself and his associates. I thought Suthep want to reform first then election? Many communities also agree to reform first then election. Only YL(TS) govt refuse to reform first. 11
Popular Post soi41 Posted January 5, 2014 Popular Post Posted January 5, 2014 What Jatuporn is doing is encouraging Thai citizens to use their democratic right to vote for whatever government they want! And the best the haters here can come up with are some stupid comments about the picture in the OP!! If a majority of the Thai people want to see the country run by the Shins and their cronies, it is their choice! They then have the government, they deserve! If the government they have choosen continue to rob the country blind or bring it to the brink of bankrupcy, then they have to live with the consequenses of having made a bad choice. And hopefully choose wiser next time?? IMO the solution is not madman Sutheps "peoples council"! But that is just me! 23
siampolee Posted January 5, 2014 Posted January 5, 2014 Bangladesh begins vote amid boycott Voting begins in Bangladesh amid opposition protests that have seen polling stations torched and more than 100 people killed. http://www.bbc.co.uk/ http://www.bbc.co.uk Is this a test run perhaps for our upcoming elections? Reckon Jutuporn may well like these tactics, right up the Red Shirts street judging by their past performances. 1
Popular Post Valentine Posted January 5, 2014 Popular Post Posted January 5, 2014 Urging people to vote is one thing but to back it up with absolute nonsense is at best misleading. However, there are so many lies being told lately it puts the Ministry of Truth to shame. 7
Popular Post JRSoul Posted January 5, 2014 Popular Post Posted January 5, 2014 What Jatuporn is doing is encouraging Thai citizens to use their democratic right to vote for whatever government they want! And the best the haters here can come up with are some stupid comments about the picture in the OP!! If a majority of the Thai people want to see the country run by the Shins and their cronies, it is their choice! They then have the government, they deserve! If the government they have choosen continue to rob the country blind or bring it to the brink of bankrupcy, then they have to live with the consequenses of having made a bad choice. And hopefully choose wiser next time?? IMO the solution is not madman Sutheps "peoples council"! But that is just me! Of course it is wrong to want a few of the other features of a democracy in place before people exercise their democratic right to vote, otherwise we might end up with something that more resembles a democracy. Thaksin wouldn't like that. 9
Popular Post Valentine Posted January 5, 2014 Popular Post Posted January 5, 2014 What Jatuporn is doing is encouraging Thai citizens to use their democratic right to vote for whatever government they want! And the best the haters here can come up with are some stupid comments about the picture in the OP!! If a majority of the Thai people want to see the country run by the Shins and their cronies, it is their choice! They then have the government, they deserve! If the government they have choosen continue to rob the country blind or bring it to the brink of bankrupcy, then they have to live with the consequenses of having made a bad choice. And hopefully choose wiser next time?? IMO the solution is not madman Sutheps "peoples council"! But that is just me! By giving in now there might not be a next time. 6
Popular Post greg71 Posted January 5, 2014 Popular Post Posted January 5, 2014 Vote 1 Chuvit and teach them all a lesson 7
Popular Post timewilltell Posted January 5, 2014 Popular Post Posted January 5, 2014 If the government had done anything even close to the job it is charged to do constitutionally, you would not have millions of people protesting on the streets. Thais are a very laid back race, and I think less likely to rise up than many other races, taking life as it comes for the most part. The same can be said for past governments of various colors. The point being there is something horribly wrong with the politicians this country creates who are so selfish that they are blind to the fact that running the country to the benefit of everyone would be far more likely to result in stability and far less likely to motivate people to turn out in their millions because they are so incensed and fed up with the politicians raping their country. There will be no democracy in the real sense of the world in Thailand until politicians make some effort to be less self interested and more altruistic to at least some percentage. There is zero love for their country and 100% love for their own pockets. While both parties govern for their own few, how can any stability be expected? 10
Popular Post Hellhound66 Posted January 5, 2014 Popular Post Posted January 5, 2014 Is there really anyone out there that truly believes that Suthep and his mafia, in a totally fair election with no vote buying, influence peddling and intimidation would win out over Thaksin and his mafia politicians? The only electorial reforms Suthep is looking for are ones that can help him win - This is not about reform - in the same way the Thai Football Association President 'reformed' the voting process during their elections because had he not done so -he would have lost. There are NO decent, principled politicians in Thailand so I fail to see how you anyone, let alone the expat community, can take sides. 12
Popular Post Spalpeen Posted January 5, 2014 Popular Post Posted January 5, 2014 The anti-democracy protesters and their apologists are prone to saying that 'democracy doesn't work in Thailand'. Lets see now, in 81 years of democracy they've had 18 coups, almost one every four years. Well, it's hard for democracy to take root when you have military jackboots stomping all over the shoots every four years. I suggest they try the next eighty years without any more coups and let's see how Thai democracy looks then. 7
Popular Post FangFerang Posted January 5, 2014 Popular Post Posted January 5, 2014 My child is going to be born next month. This is not a rugby match. I am very worried about this. This is people's lives and dreams, their aspirations and greeds. Both sides are guilty. I am very worried about this. Adding more gasoline to the fire, and reluctantly, ...I will protect my baby. It is insane I should ever have to say such a thing. No emoticon for being human. Resume rants. 3
Popular Post Scamper Posted January 5, 2014 Popular Post Posted January 5, 2014 No man in this country can bring so much mirth and hilarity to the political discourse than Jatuporn. And no man can invent so many scenarios nor weave so many conspiracy theories than Jatuporn. It is not that he puts his own spin on things. He invents and constructs whole new universes, all peopled by those who feel exactly as he does. He's always had the benefit of answering his own questions. Call it a knack. And constructing his own inner dialogue. He's a one-man band. But to each their own day. He's become a relic - a relic of the Thaksin machine where only his voice can be heard. Jatuporn is immensely popular in the north. He's the star of his own television show. The camera zooms up very close so that his entire face encompasses the image of the screen. At times, one fears he is capable of jumping out of the TV and into one's room. He's therefore strictly adult entertainment. He's the perfect embodiment of the Peter Finch character in The Network. Someone so taken by the power of his voice that he routinely has seizures on the tube. So whatever the nature of the pronouncements that somehow escape his lips, due deference to reality should be a judicious form of measurement at any and all times. 8
FangFerang Posted January 5, 2014 Posted January 5, 2014 This is not as simple as it seems. Pick a side, go ahead. That way the rest of us can see how stupid you are... 2
Sunisalom Posted January 5, 2014 Posted January 5, 2014 Another notch, on the stick of his notches, to be brought back to court, for reasons of threatening behaviour? There's only of level of solicited porn, and it's Jatuporn. -mel.
Popular Post geriatrickid Posted January 5, 2014 Popular Post Posted January 5, 2014 If the government had done anything even close to the job it is charged to do constitutionally, you would not have millions of people protesting on the streets. Thais are a very laid back race, and I think less likely to rise up than many other races, taking life as it comes for the most part. The same can be said for past governments of various colors. The point being there is something horribly wrong with the politicians this country creates who are so selfish that they are blind to the fact that running the country to the benefit of everyone would be far more likely to result in stability and far less likely to motivate people to turn out in their millions because they are so incensed and fed up with the politicians raping their country. There will be no democracy in the real sense of the world in Thailand until politicians make some effort to be less self interested and more altruistic to at least some percentage. There is zero love for their country and 100% love for their own pockets. While both parties govern for their own few, how can any stability be expected? The small group of people who fear the loss of their influence and economic control of the nation would be agitating and sabotaging anyone who dared to imperil their presumed right to plunder Thailand and to maintain the indentured servitude that has seen millions of Thais denied an opportunity to advance. This is a struggle by the long oppressed rural and urban poor to gain a chance to break free of the poverty that has held the nation back. I'm not a communist, nor even a social democrat, however, the ongoing attempt by a small portion of the population to maintain its economic superiority and advantage is the culprit here. Whatever the failing of most capitalist countries are, those countries who have posted the greatest success and advancement are those which have given an opportunity of advancement to those willing to work hard. 6
Popular Post Skywalker69 Posted January 5, 2014 Popular Post Posted January 5, 2014 The anti-democracy protesters and their apologists are prone to saying that 'democracy doesn't work in Thailand'. Lets see now, in 81 years of democracy they've had 18 coups, almost one every four years. Well, it's hard for democracy to take root when you have military jackboots stomping all over the shoots every four years. I suggest they try the next eighty years without any more coups and let's see how Thai democracy looks then. Thaksin: "Democracy is not my goal" http://www.nationmultimedia.com/home/PMS-DECLARATIONDemocracy-is-not-my-goal-90316.html 7
Popular Post EyesWideOpen Posted January 5, 2014 Popular Post Posted January 5, 2014 The anti-democracy protesters and their apologists are prone to saying that 'democracy doesn't work in Thailand'. Lets see now, in 81 years of democracy they've had 18 coups, almost one every four years. Well, it's hard for democracy to take root when you have military jackboots stomping all over the shoots every four years. I suggest they try the next eighty years without any more coups and let's see how Thai democracy looks then. Thaksin: "Democracy is not my goal" http://www.nationmultimedia.com/home/PMS-DECLARATIONDemocracy-is-not-my-goal-90316.html That famous quote has certainly come back to haunt Thaksin..... I have said for years that with vote buying , there actually is not democracy here, there is only sort of an illusion to keep foreign investors calm. Clearly the system is broken, and watching another Thaksin clone being elected to continue the looting of the country will not help matters. I say give Suthep a chance, he cannot do any worse than the Thaksin clones. If he gets out of control, the military can always step in and pitch him aside. That is the one thing they are good at... GK, your post is spot on. What a tragedy to see such a wonderful country being constantly looted by its " leaders"..... 8
wedders Posted January 5, 2014 Posted January 5, 2014 ".....millions of people protesting on the streets. lol - seriously? Hopeless. Absolutely hopeless.
Popular Post gerry1011 Posted January 5, 2014 Popular Post Posted January 5, 2014 I totally agree with Jatuporn. He is the voice of reason. Let Suthep and his thugs enjoy the (still cool in this season) streets of Bangkok, free food, free music, nice little whistles and free goodies, ... till the elections. Then all wise and responsible Thai people should follow the democratic system, teach a lesson to the anti-democracy criminals and send the mob rule's vicious circle (started by the yellows in 2006) away forever... Best way to fight these irrational protesters is through elections and democratic principles Sent from my HTC One using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app 4
aimbc Posted January 5, 2014 Posted January 5, 2014 What Jatuporn is doing is encouraging Thai citizens to use their democratic right to vote for whatever government they want! And the best the haters here can come up with are some stupid comments about the picture in the OP!! If a majority of the Thai people want to see the country run by the Shins and their cronies, it is their choice! They then have the government, they deserve! If the government they have choosen continue to rob the country blind or bring it to the brink of bankrupcy, then they have to live with the consequenses of having made a bad choice. And hopefully choose wiser next time?? IMO the solution is not madman Sutheps "peoples council"! But that is just me! Consider this, if you knew that a certain critical component of an engine on an airplane was bad, would you let people fly in it? But you say nothing and do nothing and it crashes. Now if you had the entire fleet with that same problem. Do you think it will crash again? Or you could come up with the clever idea of fixing it in mid flight.
Popular Post Maha Sarakham Marty Posted January 5, 2014 Popular Post Posted January 5, 2014 How's Jauporn's mother doing these days? Has he still abandoned her to her life of poverty? And is she still admonishing him for his bad behavior and imploring him to stop it? http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/252729-10000-police-soldiers-security-officials-deployed-to-keep-security-at-government-house/?p=2650374 3
Popular Post comeondoit Posted January 5, 2014 Popular Post Posted January 5, 2014 sorry i do not see it as a strugle of the poor and uneducated against an elite,,,,,,,it is a group of people keeping the the poor poor and stupid and misusing them for their advatage...and the future generations will have to pay the debts!!! what has the governement to show in improvements for all thai poeple (they had 2 years time)?....., like improving education (tablets which is ridiculous)?, hospitals?, help for the elderly?, railways? (thais do not need highspeed trains, people cannot pay for), roads?, reducing accidents (lip serving only)? and so on............very poor record indeed....but very good record in wasting money and shortcutting legal ways!!!! but they have prefered to always just do good things for one part of the population, like rice farmers, first car buyers, first home buyers (only for the ones who can afford it), some loans and money to certain communities (only the red towns profit) it is the missing mind set (i might even say of all the thais, therefore at the end they got the governement they are deserving)....and especially of politicians...a majority in a democracy is no free ticket not to listen to the opposition (which is needed to find better solutions)...it should be an absolute obligation to find compromises and include as much people as possible from any political colour to have well thought and wide supported solutions, where benefit as many people as possible (and not only a few) sad again the ruling party and actual governement are not able to learn 6
Skywalker69 Posted January 5, 2014 Posted January 5, 2014 How's Jauporn's mother doing these days? Has he still abandoned her to her life of poverty? And is she still admonishing him for his bad behavior and imploring him to stop it? http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/252729-10000-police-soldiers-security-officials-deployed-to-keep-security-at-government-house/?p=2650374 Poor woman. Shame on Jatuporn. May he be a worm in his next life. 2
Popular Post monkeycountry Posted January 5, 2014 Popular Post Posted January 5, 2014 What Jatuporn is doing is encouraging Thai citizens to use their democratic right to vote for whatever government they want! And the best the haters here can come up with are some stupid comments about the picture in the OP!! If a majority of the Thai people want to see the country run by the Shins and their cronies, it is their choice! They then have the government, they deserve! If the government they have choosen continue to rob the country blind or bring it to the brink of bankrupcy, then they have to live with the consequenses of having made a bad choice. And hopefully choose wiser next time?? IMO the solution is not madman Sutheps "peoples council"! But that is just me! The problem is their poor choice of governnment does not only affect themselves, but everyone else in Thailand too. This leads us back to the question of money. If all the farmers want the rice scam and other PTP policies to continue, I doubt anyone would oppose it as long as the farmers used their own money to fund it instead of everyone elses money. 3
slapout Posted January 5, 2014 Posted January 5, 2014 Most Political leaders throughtout history have displayed at least some of the following, and sourrounded themselves with others who did have, what they were missing. attrative physical attributes charisma intellectual capability/achievment political experience military or business success brutal tendencies Jutaporn seemly lacks all of these, with the possible exception of the last one. He would probably fit in well with one of those 10 on 1 gang street fights. The sad part is the majority of the present PT leadership seems to copy this assesment of qualification, by displaying none or maybe one of the redeeming qualities. As the leaders/cabinet, etc appear to be PT's "pick of the litters", I see no hope of it getting better with them in power. 1
Popular Post monkeycountry Posted January 5, 2014 Popular Post Posted January 5, 2014 Is there really anyone out there that truly believes that Suthep and his mafia, in a totally fair election with no vote buying, influence peddling and intimidation would win out over Thaksin and his mafia politicians? The only electorial reforms Suthep is looking for are ones that can help him win - This is not about reform - in the same way the Thai Football Association President 'reformed' the voting process during their elections because had he not done so -he would have lost. There are NO decent, principled politicians in Thailand so I fail to see how you anyone, let alone the expat community, can take sides. I think you will find that most expats and many thais are not really taking sides. They (and I) are not pro Suthep and his gang, bit simply anti Thaksin and his gang. Personally I find a PTP caretaker government a better option that an actual PTP government, simple because the PTP are now prevented from making any more of their disastrous and expensive policies and restricted to simply running day to day affairs. 3
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