CAPO issues tough warning to Suthep

[Just1Voice]

Thai wifey came home a few minutes ago. She and some co-workers for a large insurance company were having dinner and their table was approached by a man who offered them 2,000 bath a day to go to BKK and join the protests, Said one of the ladies stood up, pointed at him and yelled out - "Yellow shirt trying to buy protesters!" Said she laughed all the way home at how fast the man hauled ass out of the restaurant to jump in his car and speed away. Oh, it was in Chiang Mai.

[rubl]

Thai wifey came home a few minutes ago. She and some co-workers for a large insurance company were having dinner and their table was approached by a man who offered them 2,000 bath a day to go to BKK and join the protests, Said one of the ladies stood up, pointed at him and yelled out - "Yellow shirt trying to buy protesters!" Said she laughed all the way home at how fast the man hauled ass out of the restaurant to jump in his car and speed away. Oh, it was in Chiang Mai.

Nice story, but if in Chiang Mai it is somewhat incredible someone would be that stupid to even try.

[NHT]

They're afraid of reprisals if they arrest him. He is in charge of Thailand.

Sure,

and hey, don't forget to keep your magic wand next to you when you go to sleep.

[maxme]

Nobody seriously expects anyone to be apprehended in this crisis - on either side - whether it be members of the administration or Suthep. Having said that, Suthep's rhetorical overreach has played into the hands of the administration, and that could easily have been avoided. It seems to be the only misstep that has been made, as opposed to the avalanche provided by this administration over the last two and a half years. Thaksin's brother has a lot of nerve to accuse Suthep of committing the arrogant act of mounting a protest campaign, indicating - yet again - that in Thaksin's world, protest is not to be tolerated, free speech is not to be tolerated, the court system and branches of oversight are not to be tolerated, a constitution that limits his grip on power is not to be tolerated, an opposition that refuses to play ball must not be tolerated, and finally the people of Thailand - who are gleefully and joyfully filling the streets of Bangkok - are not to be tolerated. Who has the right to express outrage here ?

in my 35 years of living here I've watched the poor become politically aware and that's why they vote for PTP.

Democrats are just the old clique, recycled again and again.

Every General when he retires moves straight into the businesses he cultivated through graft and favours during his time in the forces.

It has always been.

That is why the military won't let go of their grip on the throat of the Thai people.

The old families from earliest times control 90% of the economy.

Why would they let the poor spoil their party?

PTP and Thaksin recognised this and brought policies to give them a better go.

The yellows, Suthep and his ilk are just puppets for the real power in Thailand.

Thaksin was an upstart who didn't want to play in their game.

Reminds me a little of Anwar Ibrahim's situation in Malaysia.

He didn't want to play by Mahathir Mohammed's rules so trumped up charges were used to silence him.

Thaksin wasn't a cleanskin, BUT show me one Thai politician who is. When it suited the Dems, they dragged out the corruption mantra to demonise him.

And all the little public servants in their offices were told to get down to the airport in a yellow shirt and shut it down.

Voila!, The army had it's excuse to step in and put another Dem in power. But this time the people didn't just sit back and leave them to run the country.

The Red Shirts demanded the caretaker Abbhisit call elections, and look what happened. Yingluck swept into power in a fair and free election.

What we are witnessing here is the death rattle of the conservatives that have ruled Thailand for the past 200 years.

The old families with close ties to the ancient power structure, with enormous wealth, with close family ties to the military who walk on the heads of ordinary Thais.

Who treat farmers and workers as mere chattels, who have raped the natural resources of the nation, who own just about everything.

They are responsible for the yellow shirts.

They know that if the workers and farmers become organised and elect their own leaders, instead of accepting these Democrat puppets, they lose everything.

They will use every dirty trick in the book including patriotism (the last refuge of the scoundrel) to cling on to power and keep the people ignorant.

This is as transparent a game as one could wish to see.

I doubt whether the people will ever have real political power here until the military are told to do as they are instructed by a democratically elected government.

As seen in most Western democracies.

That is why Suthep came out with that outrageous idea of an unelected "people's council", they don't want an election, they can't win one.

So the tanks will be rumbling down the streets very soon.

Well said and the general that will execute the coup will end up in the board of directors at CP Group such as it happens last time with General Suchinda. The former PM Chatchai also tried to take away power from the elite and was send to the Golf Course at Don Muang and then left for Europe.

The ironic issue is really that the Bangkok elite doesn't only look down on the North and Norteast but as well on the Southern's.

what you just said is real malice without proof!

Wow, what a rebuttal

[SICHONSTEVE]

Thai wifey came home a few minutes ago. She and some co-workers for a large insurance company were having dinner and their table was approached by a man who offered them 2,000 bath a day to go to BKK and join the protests, Said one of the ladies stood up, pointed at him and yelled out - "Yellow shirt trying to buy protesters!" Said she laughed all the way home at how fast the man hauled ass out of the restaurant to jump in his car and speed away. Oh, it was in Chiang Mai.

Funny you should say that but my wife just came in from the restaurant and she said that someone came in and asked them if they were willing to join the red shirts up in Chiang Mai and offered her 5,000 baht!!

She told him where to put it - and this was a restaurant in NST!!!

[tilac2]

It's good to see that some of the world's influential media are commenting about the disgraceful insurrectionist Suthep and his rich or gullible or paid supporters. The Washington Post headline says: "Thailand’s anti-democracy protests should provoke a harsh rebuke from the U.S."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/thailands-anti-democracy-protests-merit-a-rebuke-from-the-us/2014/01/15/ca2205a8-7e1b-11e3-95c6-0a7aa80874bc_story.html

[anon8]

I'm sure Suthep is shivering when something as serious sounding as CAPO speaks

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[Prbkk]

I'm sure Suthep is shivering when something as serious sounding as CAPO speaks Sent from my C6802 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

no disrespecting the CAPO ...

[ballpoint]

Well said and the general that will execute the coup will end up in the board of directors at CP Group such as it happens last time with General Suchinda. The former PM Chatchai also tried to take away power from the elite and was send to the Golf Course at Don Muang and then left for Europe.

The ironic issue is really that the Bangkok elite doesn't only look down on the North and Norteast but as well on the Southern's.

The irony here is that the poor of Isaan have been held back by the very same rural strongmen that Thaksin bought out in bulk. As the reds are fond of telling us, the Democrats have never been popular in the Northeast. The people of the Northeast generally have lower educational standards than the rest of the country. The people of the Northeast continually vote for the same faces and their proxies, no matter what their allegiance is at the time. In whose interest is it to keep the people at that low standard?

And you may want to look at who was on who's side during the Black May events of 1992. What we are seeing today is actually a struggle between the old military dinosaurs and their corrupt cronies - the Chavalits, Pinmalees, Silpa-Archa's, Chidcops, Thienthongs, et al, against the rising middle class. It is they who have the most to lose. It is particulary revealing that, back in 1992, the word on the streets was that the power of the politically aware middle class meant that the old guard could never seize control again. The old guard did come back politically, thanks to their uneducated rural vote sellers, bringing the country to near financial ruin in 1997. They were then bought out by Thaksin, who profited by their corrupt incompetence, and took the crumb throwing to a whole new level while maintaining the low standard of education and continuing the demonisation of the middle classes. Essentially leaving the old rural feudal system in place. Paying someone a little more to carry on doing the same inefficient process, making money for the same old masters, is not progress, it's stagnation.

Ask youselves, why, if Thaksin gained power because the rural poor were becoming politically aware, and (rightfully) getting fed up with their lot, did he use those exact same corrupt, feudal powerbrokers to get their votes? Why did/do the people continue to vote for those exact same corrupt feudal powerbrokers? Why, to give just one example, do the people of Buri Ram continually vote for whoever Newin tells them to, no matter whose side he's on at the time? Why didn't Thaksin bring in a bunch of fresh new people with no history of pillaging the poor and really make a difference? Why were no lasting improvements made to education during his years of absolute power?

And, if your answer is "Well, yes, he was just as bad as all those before him, but he gave the people a bit of extra money, and the other side are exactly the same anyway", then why doesn't the sytem need reforming?

[SICHONSTEVE]

It's good to see that some of the world's influential media are commenting about the disgraceful insurrectionist Suthep and his rich or gullible or paid supporters. The Washington Post headline says: "Thailand’s anti-democracy protests should provoke a harsh rebuke from the U.S."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/thailands-anti-democracy-protests-merit-a-rebuke-from-the-us/2014/01/15/ca2205a8-7e1b-11e3-95c6-0a7aa80874bc_story.html

Typical American ignorance of what is going on in the 'real' world.

I just love the way they brush over the facts - well yes we are aware of the human rights abuses and corruption but....so what.....!!

[Publicus]

Why didn't Thaksin bring in a bunch of fresh new people with no history of pillaging the poor and really make a difference?

No such beast in Thailand, not historically, not now.

[tingtongteesood]

It's good to see that some of the world's influential media are commenting about the disgraceful insurrectionist Suthep and his rich or gullible or paid supporters. The Washington Post headline says: "Thailand’s anti-democracy protests should provoke a harsh rebuke from the U.S."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/thailands-anti-democracy-protests-merit-a-rebuke-from-the-us/2014/01/15/ca2205a8-7e1b-11e3-95c6-0a7aa80874bc_story.html

Waste of time when they should be highlighting the crimes and misdemeanors of the disgraceful criminals in the please Taksin party.....

[metisdead]

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[Nowhereman60]

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My error, sorry.

[Thait Spot]

I'm sure a Capo is something you place over the cervix of an Italian woman who is seeking to avoid pregnancy.

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[backtonormal]

Hes already had an arrest warrant, why are the BiB handing out water to the protesters instead of arresting this loon?

Whilst I don't agree with the kidnapping threats I think the reason for not arresting Suthep is as I've mentioned before and is stated in the OP.

But the national police chief said earlier that arresting the protest leader must be taken in caution as he is always surrounded by guards and protesters.

So far the caretaker government has avoided confrontation and this suggestion by someone who might also be called a loon will jepordise that.

Just a little "not topic" . I was watching Suthep on Tuesday on his afternoon stroll and blue sky has been very creative in its camera work. The camera was always looking back at Suthep and his ring of body guards but never ever looking forward to see the crowds...because the crowds were non existent. Further to the ring of guards there was a constant stream of people moving up the pavement in line with Suthep to make it appear the streets were thronging with people...not.

Also during the day when crowds are very low at the stages blue sky always shoots from within the crowd and never from the stage into the crowd... very few people in attendance. Yet at night it shows views from the stage when the office workers have come to stare at the freak show and it is dark (disguising spaces).

Its over lad..clear off now

[tilac2]

Nobody seriously expects anyone to be apprehended in this crisis - on either side - whether it be members of the administration or Suthep. Having said that, Suthep's rhetorical overreach has played into the hands of the administration, and that could easily have been avoided. It seems to be the only misstep that has been made, as opposed to the avalanche provided by this administration over the last two and a half years. Thaksin's brother has a lot of nerve to accuse Suthep of committing the arrogant act of mounting a protest campaign, indicating - yet again - that in Thaksin's world, protest is not to be tolerated, free speech is not to be tolerated, the court system and branches of oversight are not to be tolerated, a constitution that limits his grip on power is not to be tolerated, an opposition that refuses to play ball must not be tolerated, and finally the people of Thailand - who are gleefully and joyfully filling the streets of Bangkok - are not to be tolerated. Who has the right to express outrage here ?

in my 35 years of living here I've watched the poor become politically aware and that's why they vote for PTP.

Democrats are just the old clique, recycled again and again.

Every General when he retires moves straight into the businesses he cultivated through graft and favours during his time in the forces.

It has always been.

That is why the military won't let go of their grip on the throat of the Thai people.

The old families from earliest times control 90% of the economy.

Why would they let the poor spoil their party?

PTP and Thaksin recognised this and brought policies to give them a better go.

The yellows, Suthep and his ilk are just puppets for the real power in Thailand.

Thaksin was an upstart who didn't want to play in their game.

Reminds me a little of Anwar Ibrahim's situation in Malaysia.

He didn't want to play by Mahathir Mohammed's rules so trumped up charges were used to silence him.

Thaksin wasn't a cleanskin, BUT show me one Thai politician who is. When it suited the Dems, they dragged out the corruption mantra to demonise him.

And all the little public servants in their offices were told to get down to the airport in a yellow shirt and shut it down.

Voila!, The army had it's excuse to step in and put another Dem in power. But this time the people didn't just sit back and leave them to run the country.

The Red Shirts demanded the caretaker Abbhisit call elections, and look what happened. Yingluck swept into power in a fair and free election.

What we are witnessing here is the death rattle of the conservatives that have ruled Thailand for the past 200 years.

The old families with close ties to the ancient power structure, with enormous wealth, with close family ties to the military who walk on the heads of ordinary Thais.

Who treat farmers and workers as mere chattels, who have raped the natural resources of the nation, who own just about everything.

They are responsible for the yellow shirts.

They know that if the workers and farmers become organised and elect their own leaders, instead of accepting these Democrat puppets, they lose everything.

They will use every dirty trick in the book including patriotism (the last refuge of the scoundrel) to cling on to power and keep the people ignorant.

This is as transparent a game as one could wish to see.

I doubt whether the people will ever have real political power here until the military are told to do as they are instructed by a democratically elected government.

As seen in most Western democracies.

That is why Suthep came out with that outrageous idea of an unelected "people's council", they don't want an election, they can't win one.

So the tanks will be rumbling down the streets very soon.

I agreed with everything you said up the to the last sentence. Or at least I hope you wrong about that one.

Ditto.

A very perceptive, brave and plain-spoken analysis, and I also hope (and believe) you are wrong in that last sentence.

[SICHONSTEVE]

I'm sure a Capo is something you place over the cervix of an Italian woman who is seeking to avoid pregnancy. Sent from my Nexus 4 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

Not sure I wanted to know that

I do hope that it is more effective than this bunch of useless idiots!!

[backtonormal]

It's good to see that some of the world's influential media are commenting about the disgraceful insurrectionist Suthep and his rich or gullible or paid supporters. The Washington Post headline says: "Thailand’s anti-democracy protests should provoke a harsh rebuke from the U.S."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/thailands-anti-democracy-protests-merit-a-rebuke-from-the-us/2014/01/15/ca2205a8-7e1b-11e3-95c6-0a7aa80874bc_story.html

Waste of time when they should be highlighting the crimes and misdemeanors of the disgraceful criminals in the please Taksin party.....

Thaksin is viewed as a statesman by the US and the 'go to man' whereas Suthep is viewed has...(enter your own description

[SICHONSTEVE]

It's good to see that some of the world's influential media are commenting about the disgraceful insurrectionist Suthep and his rich or gullible or paid supporters. The Washington Post headline says: "Thailand’s anti-democracy protests should provoke a harsh rebuke from the U.S."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/thailands-anti-democracy-protests-merit-a-rebuke-from-the-us/2014/01/15/ca2205a8-7e1b-11e3-95c6-0a7aa80874bc_story.html

Waste of time when they should be highlighting the crimes and misdemeanors of the disgraceful criminals in the please Taksin party.....

Thaksin is viewed as a statesman by the US and the 'go to man' whereas Suthep is viewed has...(enter your own description

'saviour of Thai democracy'

Thaksin a statesman . You jus gotta be kiddin ain't ya?

Edited January 16, 2014 by SICHONSTEVE

[spirit47]

I dont like this capo guy, he can kiss the floor with racked legs.

[SICHONSTEVE]

I dont like this capo guy, he can kiss the floor with racked legs.

I'm trying hard to picture this, but this racked legs thing has got me confused.

He is a rather peculiar looking creature I must admit!!.

[kevvy]

Hes already had an arrest warrant, why are the BiB handing out water to the protesters instead of arresting this loon?

better loon than the one who is hiding

[gerry1011]

Suthep gets more and more disgusting.

Death penalty is appropriate for someone who commits rebellion against a whole democratic system in such a dirty way.

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I am really interested to know what treatment you gonna reserve to Jatuporn, Nattawut, and all the red terrorists who were terrorising the whole city back in 2010.....

Let's go step by step.

Death for Suthep first. Rebellion is a very serious crime, especially when it is about overthrowing not only an elected government, but also the whole democratic system. On top of that he does it violently with an army of yellow thugs.

For the ones who seem to be of some concern to you, we can see later.

But since they were fighting for democracy, they should be ok, don't worry

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[anon8]

Ask youselves, why, if Thaksin gained power because the rural poor were becoming politically aware, and (rightfully) getting fed up with their lot, did he use those exact same corrupt, feudal powerbrokers to get their votes? Why did/do the people continue to vote for those exact same corrupt feudal powerbrokers?

Why didn't Thaksin bring in a bunch of fresh new people with no history of pillaging the poor and really make a difference? Why were no lasting improvements made to education during his years of absolute power?

Why?

Everybody knows the answer. People in the north and other rural areas are uneducated.

It is as simple as that.

At it will remain so, because both sides are interested in keeping it that way, both have use for cheap (slave) labour, and masses who will not ask WHY are we slaves in our country.

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[Thait Spot]

It's good to see that some of the world's influential media are commenting about the disgraceful insurrectionist Suthep and his rich or gullible or paid supporters. The Washington Post headline says: "Thailand’s anti-democracy protests should provoke a harsh rebuke from the U.S."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/thailands-anti-democracy-protests-merit-a-rebuke-from-the-us/2014/01/15/ca2205a8-7e1b-11e3-95c6-0a7aa80874bc_story.html

Waste of time when they should be highlighting the crimes and misdemeanors of the disgraceful criminals in the please Taksin party.....

Thaksin is viewed as a statesman by the US and the 'go to man' whereas Suthep is viewed has...(enter your own description

I remember these so called statesmen from the west when Assad was using chemical weapons. Obama had all but declared war and sent the firepower over.

Up stepped Putin the terrible and really made Obama and friends look like novices.

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[philw]

Nobody seriously expects anyone to be apprehended in this crisis - on either side - whether it be members of the administration or Suthep. Having said that, Suthep's rhetorical overreach has played into the hands of the administration, and that could easily have been avoided. It seems to be the only misstep that has been made, as opposed to the avalanche provided by this administration over the last two and a half years. Thaksin's brother has a lot of nerve to accuse Suthep of committing the arrogant act of mounting a protest campaign, indicating - yet again - that in Thaksin's world, protest is not to be tolerated, free speech is not to be tolerated, the court system and branches of oversight are not to be tolerated, a constitution that limits his grip on power is not to be tolerated, an opposition that refuses to play ball must not be tolerated, and finally the people of Thailand - who are gleefully and joyfully filling the streets of Bangkok - are not to be tolerated. Who has the right to express outrage here ?

in my 35 years of living here I've watched the poor become politically aware and that's why they vote for PTP.

Democrats are just the old clique, recycled again and again.

Every General when he retires moves straight into the businesses he cultivated through graft and favours during his time in the forces.

It has always been.

That is why the military won't let go of their grip on the throat of the Thai people.

The old families from earliest times control 90% of the economy.

Why would they let the poor spoil their party?

PTP and Thaksin recognised this and brought policies to give them a better go.

The yellows, Suthep and his ilk are just puppets for the real power in Thailand.

Thaksin was an upstart who didn't want to play in their game.

Reminds me a little of Anwar Ibrahim's situation in Malaysia.

He didn't want to play by Mahathir Mohammed's rules so trumped up charges were used to silence him.

Thaksin wasn't a cleanskin, BUT show me one Thai politician who is. When it suited the Dems, they dragged out the corruption mantra to demonise him.

And all the little public servants in their offices were told to get down to the airport in a yellow shirt and shut it down.

Voila!, The army had it's excuse to step in and put another Dem in power. But this time the people didn't just sit back and leave them to run the country.

The Red Shirts demanded the caretaker Abbhisit call elections, and look what happened. Yingluck swept into power in a fair and free election.

What we are witnessing here is the death rattle of the conservatives that have ruled Thailand for the past 200 years.

The old families with close ties to the ancient power structure, with enormous wealth, with close family ties to the military who walk on the heads of ordinary Thais.

Who treat farmers and workers as mere chattels, who have raped the natural resources of the nation, who own just about everything.

They are responsible for the yellow shirts.

They know that if the workers and farmers become organised and elect their own leaders, instead of accepting these Democrat puppets, they lose everything.

They will use every dirty trick in the book including patriotism (the last refuge of the scoundrel) to cling on to power and keep the people ignorant.

This is as transparent a game as one could wish to see.

I doubt whether the people will ever have real political power here until the military are told to do as they are instructed by a democratically elected government.

As seen in most Western democracies.

That is why Suthep came out with that outrageous idea of an unelected "people's council", they don't want an election, they can't win one.

So the tanks will be rumbling down the streets very soon.

Thank you for a very clear and accurate assessment.

It really is very clear now.

Suthep will in due course be arrested and probably bailed.........( no further comment required on that)

PTP and Yingluck will be thrown out by a judicial ruling, within 3 - 4 months.

There will be a coup or some sort of "elder statesman" interim government.

There will be more blood on the streets as some of the effectively disenfranchised 15.5 million people express their anger.

The nutters on Thai Visa will continue to blame Thaksin.

Within 18 months there will be another election and the Thai people will again elect a person, party or group that reflects their opinions / needs, but is not acceptable to the entrenched powers that be.

It's all a very dark scenario and very sad for this country.

Never mind thinking of the things that cannot even be talked about..........................

"Respect my Vote" will be the slogan for PTP or it's reincarnation for 2014 or the next elections and quite rightly so.

Thaksin will soon be left behind and become inconsequential, Yingluck and may not.

She is learning in the job and gaining credibility.

Prem and his ilk will not be around much longer.

Times are changing and the rate of change will accelerate.

Edited January 16, 2014 by philw

[anon8]

Thaksin is viewed as a statesman by the US and the 'go to man' whereas Suthep is viewed has...(enter your own description

Nope.

Whoever comes out on top of this current disaster, will be recognised as leader,

nobody describes neither of those as Statesmen.

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[bigbamboo]

So if the police won't arrest Sooty because they might get hurt what is da capo da CAPO going to do next............stamp his foot?

[anon8]

So if the police won't arrest Sooty because they might get hurt what is da capo da CAPO going to do next............stamp his foot?

CAPO will use some strong language tomorrow, so watch out!!

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